Foreign healthcare workers don't have the 'compassion' British workers do, says LBC caller 

Really really scary. His vote is worth the exact same as mine. Horrific

It’s frightening that our education system produces people like Phil.

It's also frightening that people like Phil have no shame.

Phil is rightly entitled to that vote- what’s frightening is just how many Phil’s there are. Wilfully ignorant on the subject, while utterly manipulated into a emotional furore that will not be reasoned with… politics is in a depressing state in this country.

Or exist

Absolutely. Privatising our health service would be a disaster.

@@chrisj9700 that is exactly what we have now. I said privatising the Health Service, i.e. medical care would cost everybody money each time they use it, so I am not sure what point you are making.

Never trust anyone that say privatization of your public service makes things better.

@@chrisj9700 you are talking about a hybrid system, not fully privatising the healthcare service. If some people can barely afford to put food on their tables, how can they afford private healthcare? It's not as simple as saying "well it worked for them so it will work for us". Oftentimes I find the people most opposed to the NHS being the ones who would benefit the most from it. Many people cannot afford to pay for private healthcare, yet they're the ones screaming from the rooftops to implement it. I don't get it.

I second that; lived in the US and dealing with the Health Insurance companies is a nightmare, they will try anything not to pay up and patient care is never a consideration from the Insurance companies perspective. They (loss adjusters) would happily let people die to protect the bottom line

So he can lie back and think of England.

​@@timpullen4941 😂😂😂😂😂 I howled in laughter at that

Lol brilliant

Why doesn’t Phil go to RWANKA

It must be because you are a foreigner: no compassion! (So am I, 30 years working in the NHS, no compassion either 😂)

It's like cutting your nose to spite your face.

@@akumaali5798 more like cutting your head off to stop a bit of the sniffles!

We could also pump raw sewage into the British isles to stop immigration…oh, wait…

everything in a sentence before the word but is usually a lie or at the very least a self deception

When he says foreign ….he means Indian.. He will have met many white foreign doctors and not realised.

Phil should be reminded about who were the abusive staff at Winterbourne Nursing Home abusing its disabled residents - they were all born in the UK...

@@johnrussell3961 ..and black.

But did you feel that compassion though.

​@@postumus. mostly black actually. Indian doctors are respected

It's one of life's more irritating ironies that, those who are least informed, more often than not, have the strongest opinions on subjects that they barely know anything about.

@@comanchio1976 That's my experience as well. Especially Brexiteers. Strongly opinionated, but always saying "I don't follow politics".

If there was a diagnostic criteria to determine right wing voters, this would be top of the list.

Have no fear, Guy force is here!

You get people like this on all talk shows, it sounds like they're reading from a formula. I reckon the BNP, I mean UKIP, I mean Reform send them out to their members.

Yep I'm entitled to that and a nice young Thai girl 🤫 says Phil.

Only the people who can't afford to live. And other people will make money, so who cares?

​@@jantyszka1036 yeah it's cool, just the poor people will die. Us brits are more compassionate than everyone else in the world.

Halleluliah!

Plenty die under NHS, Its terrible.

@@jantyszka1036 Most of us care.

There must be a million stories like this, a German Doctor saved my wife's sight, Spanish nurses looked afte my Mum, this man doesn't speak for me.

Of course, some ‘lived experience’ is more important and worthy than others!

I hear you.nicest nurse I've met in 10 years was from the phillipines

Compassion (and clinical skill) is individual characteristic not related to ethnicity

@@davidbullimore4418 Well said, that’s what we have all been trying to say in our own way. You’ve confirmed it beautifully.

This is fascinating to read. 🤔

You're wrong about France. "Un praticien hospitalier gagne en moyenne 7445€ nets par mois (Source : Igas), il perçoit un salaire mais peut également percevoir en plus des honoraires (avec ou sans dépassements) dans le cadre d’un exercice libéral ponctuel qui ne peut excéder 20% de son temps de travail et 50% de son activité." They don't work purely in the private, they're not allowed to.

@@sueyourself5413 Oh so there is some similarity. Consultants in GB usually work in both NHS and private practice. It’s more or less expected. I had a medical problem and went through NHS to be referred to a consultant. I had private insurance at work so they asked me if I preferred to go through that route - when they looked up who I would see it turned out to be the same guy I was already under in the NHS! At the time I did not experience overly long waiting periods to see him so I carried on going through the NHS route but would have gone private if my company insisted.

@@sueyourself5413 My wife is a salaried nurse in the French public sector. The nurses in private clinics and nursing homes are paid LESS. Fact. 👍 Je n'ai aucune idée pour un toubib.

@@chrisj9700 Do you really have no idea how daft your comment sounds. It's healthcare not a restaurant.

I'm sure there are many decent people from Stoke, but when this particular Stoke guy started talking, I just thought of Jonathan Gullis!

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He certainly doesn't let ignorance stop him from offering an opinion.

Well said

Better than the Guardian.

And 340000 people are declared bankrupt trying to pay for their healthcare in the USA!

Agreed. US healthcare is worst in the developed world.

The American psyche says ,"I've worked hard to pay this health insurance , I'm not about to have a European system , and pay for others".

@@normanpearson8753 That thinking is starting to permeate the "English" psyche as well!

It's a decades-long psyop that's conditioned Americans to associate caring for people with socialism, and socialism with communism, and communism with the USSR.

But we need to offload some of the ones that are here somehow...

Easy to spot farang Most people objecting to wearing facemasks were/are farang (Vast) majority of Thais still choose to wear facemasks, which primarily protect other people. Btw If I return to Britain and need to avail myself of NHS services, as I haven't been resident in the UK for 12 months in the last 5 years I have to pay 100% PLUS!! of the cost of the treatment. Am I understanding him correctly. If I lose my passport do I get NHS treatment for free?

And he can't learn a laguage at 55, I'm 65 and learning Spanish.

But do they ALL speak the local language? Plus of course in accordance with the UK immigration laws, they are all highly skilled in the history, customs and culture of their promised land.

​@@Paul-eb4jp This fellow doesn't seem to comprehend English... The ERG have cut cards with dongs like Phil. It's the lumpenproletariat that will pay the bill, unfortunately.

Sadly they have not cut the budget of the NHS but Cut the budget increase that happens each year. Which they say it not a cut but of course it is. So over 13 years they NHS got around 50% less money than it expected to get which is of course a cut but that is not what you will be told. This is why it is failing, not because of nurses and doctors.

I had my first experience of being in hospital at the age of 11 in 1969 and it was shocking. No room in the kids ward, spent a week on an adult ward with dementia patients and very very ill guys, one of whom did not make it (2 beds down). Totally inappropriate for a young child, no one battered an eyelid. I have had to use hospitals since - first a 3 year waiting list from injuring my shoulder to getting the operation required (17 years ago) then a 2 year wait for the second operation. Services for the working class in the UK has always been below par, but the public always has that stiff upper lip, has a nice cuppa and carries on. We have always deserved much better.

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Where the real problem is chunks of the NHS budget have been taken away and given to private contractors whose primary goal is the generation of profits for their shareholders not the health of the UK public

@@althepalno1164 I was in hospital in 1967 in the children's hospital - excellent care. A few years later, hit puberty, was on a men's ward - excellent care. I am not comparing my experience to yours, nor am I saying there weren't problems, for example horrendously long waiting times in "Out Patients" because consultants put their private work ahead of the NHS work. But my experience has been generally positive, esp. now that age and other issues are really coming home to roost all at the same time. However, this is my experience and I can't claim it is universal. I can't deny your experience, but you do seem to want to extrapolate from your experience to the whole NHS. I don't get the comment about service for the working class unless you are comparing it to Private health care? Remember, the NHS was not just for the "working class" and middle class people did and do use it. I have never seen any differentiation based on class or race or wealth in either the GP surgery or the hospitals I have been in. Yes, an individual nurse or the dreaded ward Sister or even more fearsome Matron might have been a pain, but I don't think the NHS itself treated or treats working class people any differently. Of course, the private system can throw every test and every bit of care at you, but you pay for it. My father in law needed some urgent treatment - at a time when the NHS was being encouraged to farm some cases out to private to save time. The private company was happy to get the money (while using NHS resources) but quickly dropped the case because it turned out F-I-L had raised blood pressure. So it went back to the NHS after all. Not better treatment, after all.

On a similar grade of doublethink, "the NHS has too much beurocracy, so we should privatise it and add even more administration, billing and shareholders to it!"

Well the conservative party's ethos has never been about protecting the vulnerable and poor. It's always about ' me and how I can benefit'. This country is run by these idiots who cater for their own banks.

yes he having a coffee in the back room with all the backroom staff. Wait until next week he is going to be Stan from Stoke😀😀

😂😂😂 @Jim

Someone who hasn't actually looked at the American healthcare system, or is looking to profit from such a system.

@@comanchio1976 it baffles me the ignorance / stupidity of some people.

People who think they can get more money out of sick and dying people in the UK if we had it. They want the us health system.

Tories who want to make money off our suffering

@@chrisj9700 can you give me a few examples, I’m genuinely interested to know where it works.

Couldn't have put it better 👏

Very much so. He's telling on himself, with the quiet part out loud.

I think his recent procedure was a lobotomy 🤣

@@IHC66 🤣🤣

😊😅

Surely he's British and hasn't even visited Xenophobia?

@Jude Kalyesubula As a rather uneducated type he doesn't know how to pronounce it. Tragic ....

British People pay for it, but it's not a national health service anymore, it's international.

Exactly see "250,000 excess deaths since 2010" "Life expectancy falling" - The Economist 10.3.23...Well done there our Tory leaders...

you do know that Phils attitide is not real its just LBC playing games

@@richardlewis7498 And how do you know that exactly Richard...??

@@thisoldhammer Why do you think the Thais would want to let him live there? He doesn't sound like the kind of guy who would ever integrate...

@@gloin10 you’ve obviously never lived in Thailand or South-East Asia then. Cause those parts of the world are very welcoming to white people with money.

Translation: your hope is with brainwashing the younger generations. A typically very communist tactic

And that's how brexit happened

Stay hopeful ❤❤

Nicely said.

Spot on... No peoples own the patents to compassion and empathy. They're gifts of DNA and evolution over deep time.

She must have liked him ..🤣

I wouldn't put it past them

How about...."English Striker Supports Industrial Action" This could be the follow up headline.

😂😂😂

You didn't mention Princess Di and house prices...

"Finally, A Real Tory Budget" --The Daily Mail on Liz Truss

Get well soon! 😷✌ Love from Holland.

Get well soon

We don't hear these anecdotes enough......Of course the NHS is not without fault but we need to repair it; not tear it down. The way so many working class people have been hood-winked into thinking and voting in spite of their interests is utterly depressing.

he is saying a lot. he is saying everything the Tories are thinking

All i heard was tory lines.

it's like he's repeating phrases with zero comprehension of what anything means, it's bizarre

He said PLENTY: I’m White and superior. The end.

@@TheWiseJames "All i heard was tory lines"? All I heard were Tory lies! FIFY!

But.. but.. *compassion*

That's what these people do

Are u aware immigrants children who are born in the UK they are charged £1600 nhs surcharge every 2 and half years to renew their immigration status in the UK. Nhs surcharge is 1600 every 2 and half for nhs surcharge till at the age of 10.

@@osaeditz4655 Whaaat ?

"They would rather suffer then to help another human"? This!

And The Tories have been after it from the day it started. They're nearly there and if they're voted in again they'll do it! Lower Than Vermin!

I've found all nurses were lovely. And most were Filipino. 🙂

As a doctor in the NHS, I can tell you hands down, the Filipino nurses are the best. Hardworking, kind, and clinically excellent. Always an absolute pleasure to work with. Not slating anyone else at all, everyone's generally 1st class, but the Filipino nurses I've worked with really stand out to me.

@@ozzya9977 I agree wholeheartedly

This is just the truth.

Basically the NHS has always had lots of foreign born workers. The only people that this matters to in any way are the xenophobes who seem to think foreigners are some kind of alien species.

An Irish nurse would be fine. When you scratch a little below the surface, the real issue is he doesn't like non-white nurses. Of course he won't say that, but that's the real reason.

That's always been true. From it's very beginning the NHS has recruited from abroad.

I tend to think that if you require a healthcare professional with the stipulation that they are the same nationality you probably need more mental health care than physical.

@@MrManBuzz Absolutely, he won't say it openly - but his real moan is he doesn't want coloured people treating him in a hospital.

Exactly. Historically its white English Drs and nurses who are serial killers

Perhaps British doctors have better training? It’s pretty difficult to get into Medical School, isn’t it. Perhaps it’s easier for some patients to understand a British Doctor or Nurse? How many foreign born doctors are struck off? You would be surprised, I think.

@@leeastral "How many foreign born doctors are struck off? You would be surprised, I think"? And your evidence for this claim is what, precisely? Obviously, you have comprehensive data concerning the total number of doctors struck off the UK's Medical Register over the last twenty years, broken-down by nationality and/or country of origin, and the percentages of doctors from all those countries relative the overall total practicing in the UK over that period? I'll wait....

@@gloin10 I hope I haven’t kept you waiting too long. I know that between 2010 and 2015 a total of 460 doctors were struck off and of those 330 were foreign trained - 75%. That’s pretty poor, isn’t it. Perhaps the British trained doctors are better? What do you think? I’ll wait…

Agreed. I’m a retired RN and have worked with many nurses who simply shouldn’t be there from all nationalities including our own with many degree qualified nurses thinking they above basic nursing care and refusing to clean a patient up “because I have a degree”. That really makes my blood boil!

The right are so quick to say "Facts not feelings.", when pretty much their entire world view is based on gut feelings and unacknwoeldged prejudices.

Logorrhea plus "word salad"

Like anybody who doesn’t vote Labour like you!

Exactly

Which is why we have the small boats. People seem to forget that they are a very recent phenomenon, caused by our government closing down legal means of coming here. All this new bill will do is ensure that people arriving on the small boats will make no effort to claim asylum. They will disappear into the black economy. Then, with fewer people on it's records Braverman's Home Office will claim to have solved the problem. If that doesn't work, then they'll say that "Lefty lawyers" and the ECHR are stopping them, so the ECHR will have to go. Never mind that the ECHR says nothing about asylum law. (It's about fundamental stuff like the right to life, to a fair trial, to free and fair elections.) Phil will, no doubt, cheer as he votes for the introduction of a police state. So it's win-win for his masters - who will also be ours.

What absolute nonsense! Which legal means of immigration has been closed down?

@@leeastral All of them. Have you not been paying attention? Braverman was confronted by one of her own party's MPs about this in a select committee. If you are an asylum-seeker, unless you are coming from one of a list of four countries, there is no legal mechanism to enter the UK. You must enter illegally and then claim asylum. The "Illegal Migration Bill" currently before parliament sets out to close even this route. Henceforth, anyone entering the UK illegally will have no right to claim asylum. Will be detained, deported and banned from the UK for life. However, fear not, Tory donors will not be denied their cheap foreign labour. While the media are focussing on the small boats, the Home Office is being quietly lobbied to expand the list of "shortage occupations". All those EU citizens kicked out by brexit can be replaced. Why spend money training British people when Indians are so much cheaper?

most of the nhs workers have come legally

Same re:abortion. Same re:drugs. Stopping legal access to anything will only bolster the black market. Then the tories point to it and go “see this?!” The mess they create they weaponise and bad faith argue to the hilt. It’s so bleedingly obvious it’s kind of outrageous.

I am more than happy to pay more in NI to help the nhs and pay the staff more. Protect the nhs at all costs we are so lucky

It's not even that, the guy isn't thinking about anything, you realise he could just get private insurance if he wanted to?

Coincidentally, a few hours before watching this video I was talking to a German who works on the administrative side of her country's health system; she told me that before Brexit, Germany had streams of Britons travelling there to take advantage of their facilities....

lol BS nobody goes to Mexico for cheaper healthcare unless its cosmetic, bbls and other non-sense especially when the cartel runs the country and takes hostages. pure copium

Are you British?

@@cujimmi Only certain countries call us brits and its usually the USA. Because they are 2 ignorant to learn the name of countries and it makes it easier for their difficult brain

@@cujimmi Yes. Lived in 7 countries and can easily say the British were the most selfish and self entitled people I'd ever met

@@cujimmi Would it make a difference? If it's not hilarious it is at least very ironic, would you not agree?

@@djstuc Why does it matter? You gonna cyber stalk me? I've lived in every part of UK except NI

He doesn't even know where the pitch is.

😂😂😂

Motorized wheels with a formula 1 engine

@@keldsleepnot7961 Unfortunately, the steering is broken.... And the driver is blindfolded by his own bigotry.

@@gloin10 and no brakes!

He said a lot of words. He made no sense whatsoever.

All the evidence is that inviting a bunch of lawyers and more administrative bottlenecks into healthcare always provides increased costs with no improvement in clinical outcomes

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Facts are annoying, awkward things and you can use them to prove anything that's even vaguely true!

That’s a great idea. I’ll have both legs amputated for free, please.

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No.... no there not

@LyricalDJ Doubt he knows the meaning of compassionate ..He loves himself and being British has the twisted belief he's a superior being .Rather sad ..:)

So so sad to hear - one of the wealthiest nations in the entire world and it's come to that. Here in France I was concerned as was diagnosed with long term conditions as to whether I would be able to pay for the drugs - only to find that there is a 100% system which pays all of the cost of long term drugs. Has made a huge difference to me.

The problem this xenophobia srprads right through politics and its the only measure of political success at this point. Don't you find it incredibly sus that the Tory polls have bounced upwards since the "Stop The Boats" phrase came into fruition?

Comment of the year!

His head is all over the place. Unfortunately his mouth keeps working.

They live amongst us.😢

Paid actors

The gammonaty of National Front, UKIP aka The Reform Party, the Conservative Party, and the outright Fascists of Britain - this is the gutter low life...

No, they're artificial unintelligence.

@@LowPlainsDrifter60 👍

When I had heart problems just ove es year ago one of the doctors who looked after me was Filipino, really friendly like you wouldn't believe. Also there was a guy from Poland he was really friendly as well.

In the USA, that would be billed at around $150,000 and up. There is a reason why the term 'Medical Bankruptcy' exists in that country. There is a reason why a lot of Americans who come to live and work in Europe struggle to get their heads around the fact that it does NOT exist here. If you do not have adequate health insurance in the USA, your life expectancy drops significantly.

Ive just had a hip relacement .Most of the staff were foreign nationals and i could not have had better care.All of the staff were absolutley brilliant..

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No, the British have the propensity of forming their own little colony wherever they go to in the world then have the audacity to criticise the ‘natives’ if they don’t speak English!

If he hasn't woken to reality by now, at 55, there is precious little chance that he ever will