Forensic Files (HD) - Season 13, Episode 38 - Cold Feet - Full Episode 

Some hillbilly needed his liquor and lotto scratchers BAD.

Yeah Cause in my neighborhood, we'd just mosey on down to the next open store.

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Good man!

Yeah it's terrible in Mexico

So true.

@@babagandu come to russia or other post soviet countries it’s no different

Go to the academy. Graduate. Join a police force. Tell us how easy it is to solve every crime. Get back to us.

And it's cops. Not cop's.

𝚠𝚊𝚝𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚊𝚜 𝚒 𝚏𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚊𝚜𝚕𝚎𝚎𝚙

That's one way to get attention

At the time, it was surprisingly normal to give randos a ride in your car

and super lucky

@@GrimmEnt. The reason you wouldn't is because you grew up hearing of THESE exact type of stories AFTER they had happened!!! Obviously the people who are actually in those stories couldn't have!

Yes he definitely would have kept killing

Considering he just did these when he was just 19 imagine when he was in his strong and hormonal years between 20/40. He could have raped and killed More

Reading that he’s only 5 feet tall it’s very likely he was picked on growing up in school and had issues getting attention from girls. He’s the very definition of short man syndrome.

Exactly !! Sometimes you have a better chance of survival if you dont allow them to take you just like that second girl did. The whole purpose of them taking you to a deserted location is because they are too scared to kill you there. So your odds of getting out alive are greater if you fight your grounds then and there !

Bit difficult negotiating ANYthing with a knife at your throat and someone yelling "STFU" 😬

They also tell you that you should be armed and ready to defend yourself like that 80yo grandpa that shot a robber at his store.

Yes I will remember it. Better get shot & killed at the kidnap site , than be tortured & raped, any day

@@ФАКДЕМОКРАТ Imagine living in a place like "America" where it's considered "normal" to be armed with a gun at all times for your own protection. Who would want to live there. Smh. What a sihthole.

Definitely in an uneasy job for a young woman. And as a mother I’m sure you were always on edge!

Convenience not only means convenience for shoppers it also means convenience for killers & rapists , but if a day has death and your name it's gonna get ya . Several people in my family have been victims of murder one was my cousin whom came home from Vietnam War and was shot 5 times in the back with a .357 Magnum his final thanks for serving his country.

@@timmyjones1921 I'm sorry he died

Why do they call rapists "sex offenders"? Are they trying to be politically correct? Why don't they just call it a "struggle snuggle" if they don't want to offend the rapist.... 🙃🤔🙃

@@KlusterFux A regular comedian.

I was thinking of the person who found her

I have joined that established club as well

He was the best

Bill Kurtis Cold Case Files is better

Totally! Its so nostalgic for me

The only person that I think can top him for best narration voice is Robert Stack on Unsolved Mysteries. His voice just makes the mysteries even more intense.

And is a lot cheaper.saves tax payers a lot of money. Investigators pushed him smartly

I agree with you.. the cops said if he gets out they'll be counting bodies...he hung a 10 year old from a tree sister or not.. he's a dam monster evil to the core 💔😊

@@dilekavan5796the death penalty is actually more expensive than a life sentence

@@tomhoedt6467 Why would you assume this?

How can you course this poor little girl...shame on you.

Having worked for a time in the prison system, the most remarkable thing is that most inmates adjust and make a sort of a life for themselves. I have no doubt this POS is very comfortable in prison.

That's a poster boy for antisocial disorder for you. Glad he's locked forever, although death sentence will be a good riddance too.

@@jeffreymcneal1507 Do you get chatty with them ? Have a burger and a laugh ? Or do you treat them like the POS that they are throughout your shift ?

Probably because he knows where he's going when he dies

elmen is a walking nightmare

He will burn 🔥🔥

He seemed like such a nice man.

I'm sure there's an episode about one of the other victims, and it mentions this case.

Agree - think it was a film time cap with commercials etc. But do think they could have done a bit more on the vid

Maybe it's in another episode? I think there might be a full length documentary on this killer and his crimes. I can't be sure- but the face does look familiar to me... and obviously the names and faces of the victims. I'm fairly certain this case is also studied by some forensics programmes- but my studies only did the Colin Pitchfork and some other case studies (like Ted Bundy, for example).

julie couldn't have been his first

To see the expression on his face when he found out that instead of being turned loose onto society, he had to do an about face,and get locked right back up in his cage where he belongs, I think I would pay money to see that 😂😂😂

Yup, thing is some people have a tendency to disappear for a day or two once they're apset, then the appear. After this becomes routine, their loved ones get use to it.

Its easy to judge the police as not CARING ENOUGH. But if u only knew the amount of people that makes police report that their loved ones, relatives didnt not show up after a few hours you wouldnt say that. I have an ex bf who is a police officer. He said missing person report happens way too many time. I have a brother who went missing for 2 days, we all were crying, I made a police report, we thought he was dead. The police did a police investigation. He showed up at my mom's place 2 days later and said he was being stupid, joined a party and got crazy stoned. You see how much time the police wasted on him? If the police have to respond to every "missing person" after went missing for 2 hours, they would die from overwork. So a standard 24 hours is a reasonable procedure. Plus its not always a black and white thing. If its a case of your wife does not come back from work the whole night. The police would usually respond. Its easy to sit here and judge the police. Its always their fault. Nobody wants to spend 2 second of their day trying to understsnd their jobs.

I just left this same comment haha.

That lady bugged me too! They had a fight - maybe she was gonna stay at a motel due to the argument. That’s seemed really presumptive and naive. 🤨

@@secrets.295 Both sides are valid. But Synergy's right: if it IS a true missing person's case then the cops DO say 'Why didn't you call us sooner?'

Wow that's scary. Do you remember the guy's name or better yet, the name of his victim? Would be interested in looking up her case.

the killer was a chomo pedo that should have his gonads lopped off. Our justice system be weak, for real.

Well... there was a reason for why he did it. Julie was a young woman that he viewed as a plaything to do with as he wanted until she was of no further use for him.

Okay... so you're saying that it's the victims faults for not having the foresight to ram into buildings after they were abducted? You just said that one of the victims was forced to drive at gunpoint... but yup, let's blame the victim for her own death because she didn't stop at a fucking police station enroute to the scene of her death? You are disgusting. You are absolutely fucking disgusting.

And FBI agent said in that position in the car Jump you will most likely be killed.. but if the get you to there safe space your dead..so jump

THE UNKNOWN: 1) SITUATION a) VICTIM : TIED UP/INCAPACITATED OR b) VICTIM: WAS DRIVER WITH PERPS HOLDING WEAPON TO VICTIM 2) OPPORTUNITY: LAY OF THE LAND? a) TRAFFIC/ROAD CONDITIONS : LIGHT/HEAVY b) TWO PERPS WITH ONE VICTIM 3) MANY MORE SITUATIONS AS WELL COME TO MIND ALL UNKNOWNS

I grew up in a bad area with missing kid posters around, I've always been suspicious of strangers.

Taught from an early age, yet totally forgotten by puberty 🤣

@@frankdees507 girls just wanna have Fun

I was a shy people-pleaser who had a *very* close call hitchhiking, that made me so wary that I was actually able to tell men in cars, who stopped, that I was okay and sorry for bothering them. I would only take rides from ladies and families after that incident, but I've now seen stories where women and kids are used for setting a trap. I was so shy, I didn't even cross busy streets alone, at 16, but explosive parents drove me to hitching to friends' on the weekends, by 17.

I once gave a ride to a guy I didn't know. Looking back now it was a pretty stupid thing to do. Luckily he turned out to be ok and we actually became friends.

Ask the US military and CIA.

@@mightymouse8026 looks like they ass-fkd someone close to you ? is that right ? we're proud of of the US Military as well as the CIA MoFu !!

Many are born evil...

Ask Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Fauci, Bill Gates, and George Sources. 😎

you should watch documentaries of serial killers

He sounds pretty jerky, not even calling to say she was missing.

"Jerky" lol ​@@Joelswinger34

Sure, ppl would love to, but I refuse to go to jail for some killing or maiming some lowlife. You really feel that way, if it's not worth it. I'll continue to let God & Karma to fight my battles. No disrespect....

@@DRUGSTOREMAKEUPDIVA Thank you, but I didn't say I'd like to do it. However, what I really meant and do mean is would it feel wonderful for a father to take revenge on a so and so who raped and killed his daughter? (just an example). Personally, I'd never take the law into my own hands.

@@mohammaddavoudian7897 what I meant, was, as far as I'm concerned, meaning me. I think I expressed that. But, sorry if you misunderstood. I wouldn't dare take away the feelings of another. I've experienced pain, grief, & anger of loss. God bless. 🙏🏾

@@DRUGSTOREMAKEUPDIVA I'm sorry I misunderstood. God bless you too.

that's retarded justice

They aren't rare. There's a lot out there.

California has a lot too! Incredible

Serial murderers are everywhere, in all classes of people...

@Nina Montana yes. CA and Florida are definitely high on the list for serial killers. Lots of people relocate for the weather.

Its rare. The probability of a serial killer existed in your society is probably 1/100,000 people. You could argue that one is already too many. But statistically speaking its rare, and chances of you encountering them are extremely safe. You still need to be really careful though, and not giving a ride to a stranger like that 2nd girl who work at the workstore did. I dont understand how people can be so trustful

No shit right.

That would be your wife’s choice, NOT YOURS. Smh at your arrogance.

@@mandywalkden-brown7250 lol look at you

@@mandywalkden-brown7250 True to say -that would be her choice -better still would be the caring hubby who goes down there and reads the paper in the office there after dark just to be sure shes safe

So sweet of you not allowing your wife work a night job at a liquor store means you care about her

Because they have plenty of other cases that they have deadlines and they need to attend to it.

WOW -you should become a Detective -you seem like a dedicated individual

@@secrets.295 right. Fact is a lot of times they just don’t care if they think the victim is a social parasite

Hey Y'know , they turned up , I sometimes close early , it's not unheard of and they shone the torch in and found nothing undisturbed

In those days ? Where I live , it's still happening . Not murder but plenty of robberies

We just had a 711 spree killer several months ago. One of them was the 711 2 blocks from my office. So sad

They tried the door, the opening manager had to unlock it when they got to work.

@@deborahsunflower939 Ok thanks for clarifying 👍

@@deborahsunflower939 no he said they left and the day manager found the store was robbed when he opened the next day.

@@Maria.9094 yes. The original poster said the cops drove by and didn't get out of the car. I said they tried to open the door (and it was locked.) so I think we r all in agreement.

They did check the door

Thank humans for science , otherwise we'd think an entity had a hand in anything

😂😂😂

No, leave it. It's funny that way!

@@jhatcher9156 !aa

Must have tasted yummy.

Bwahahaha!

Listen to the show, please; they didn't find enough evidence.

@@mortalclown3812 that fucker is still likely guilty!

Agreed. My girlfriend is 3 inches shorter than me. Yet I pull the seat almost all the way up and she moves it almost all the way back.

Yeah, my mum and I are both 5'8," and I move her seat forward a lot, because I like driving with my elbows bent, so I have ultimate control of the steering-wheel. Mum likes to drive with her arms just about straight out, so her seat is always far back.

They add up everything to tell a story

Of course you can't. But it is generally a good rule of thumb. Obviously officers shouldn't say: Oh the guy we caught is 5'6'' and the seat says he's supposed to be 4'11'' while they have other compelling evidence. However, it's a good observation trick to have.

@@officerahmo a lot of investigation is guess work. But a good investigator should and does give proper weight to the evidence. And they will use all the little pieces put together to paint a picture that may not all be completely accurate but hopefully is close enough to head in the right direction. Of course I'm not a legal investigator but all of us in life end up trying to figure out little mysteries in own life. Like who ate the last ice cream cone . Or where's my cell phone? Or is my spouse cheating?

Good one! 😂

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That would be pretty inconvenient for the customers, so it would probably have to be renamed. Like "none of my employees can or want to carry concealed and I can't be bothered to keep them safe" store.

Yes and HD, so can actually see their faces, plates etc. And after dark - 2 employees mandatory and nationwide.

@@muttsrus1919 ~ Having two employees working doesn't matter. I worked at a convenience store when myself and a co-worker were robbed at gunpoint by 3 thugs. Eight days before Christmas. Luckily, they didn't want to harm us. Usually criminals know what they are going to do before they "hit" a place. However, these guys could have killed us before anyone would have known...

Tapes? How old are you?

@@damionwaugh2842 ~ Stores still use video tapes sometimes...

In my mind, I’d like to think she kicked him in the nuts and got jizz on her sock when he was assaulting her.

IMHO, it's understandable that the husband wouldn't suspect foul play because he assumed that his wife was angry at him and not ready to come home.

People are so dumb.

He was cute when he was younger, and even if he weren't, killers often know how to be charming. I think Ted Bundy was ugly, but he knew how to act disarming.

I'm amazed he let her live after the rape ??

Do you know how many women have said no and died and also he didn't look like that scary before he went to prison so...

That's not normal. I would find out what she was doing.

There is no one to corroborate your alibi

Central casting

You know they just want to make a twist story

True that. Some people prefer to be left alone for awhile to think and reflect on things before they decided to talk and solve their problems. I think they made it seems like it's a big problem to make us viewers think that he was the culprit. Glad that they caught the sociopath/psychopath and locked him forever.

Hey, that is a *MYTH* that you have to wait 48 or even 24 hours to report a missing person, and it's a very dangerous misconception to spread. You need to report a missing person _as soon as possible_ if you are a responsible person & care about finding them. Do not continue to perpetuate this misinformation, please.

@@horsegirlb7120 are you joking?

@@craigime No?

You really believe that ? How old are you ? 3 years old ??

@Val P - re: "God cares for the common, everyday people...." Perhaps, yet God could have taken care of this sick animal with a lightening bolt, an auto accident, heart attack - - BEFORE any more killings happened. Ehhh?

What a sack of crap

Wow really

😢😢😢

Scary Shit

Good question. Was the knife to the throat incident after he murdered Julie, or before... if before, he might have been on bail awaiting hearing? Hmmm.

@@inspiration.VoxFemina That was after the Julie incident, he had been in the other town some time after that he asked for a ride from the other girl , , , He got sentenced 22 years for that kidnapping & deadly assault , , , Then while in prison , DNA testing was developing & allowed the remains on the socks to identify him as the perp which nailed him for life w/o parole , , , (That's what I got out of it)

I was confused too 😂

I think he was already in prison serving another rape case when forensics came back with the DNA profile that identified him as Julie's rapist and killer. Then he was charged with Julie's murder while already serving the sentence of another unrelated case and was then found guilty.

@@TiffWaffles oh okay. Thank you Tiffany! Because I truly was confused. 💕

I still have some from my high school days that stand up by themselves, due to the baby batter saturation.

Horrible

You know Peter Thomas had to do that take a dozen times from corpsing lmao

Truth!

Agreed 1000% The eighth amendment prevents proper punishment