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Forged Gun Barrel - Method 2 

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Starting stock: 6”x1/4”x2” (150x6x50mm) mild steel.
This was the first time I’ve used my swage block since I bought it! I gave it a light sanding to knock off the corners and high spots of the casting, but many of the casting marks still remain, which is why the piece sticks a bit in the swage block.
I also forgot to film a heat or two when doing the final rounding, in order to keep the video short I filmed less than half of the welding heats. To be clear, I only worked 1” (25mm) or so of bar at a time/each welding heat during the forge welds. My hammer face is 1.5” (38mm) so this gave me some overlap/tie in with the previous welding section, producing what will hopefully be a strong weld.
I may make a barrel section to test out of 3/8” (10mm) stock off camera to pressure test as well. This method was as easy to do as the Whitley method, but it does need more refinement to ensure a good weld and aesthetic appearance. The weld this method produces is pear shaped, so more drilling/ reaming will be necessary than the Whitley method (this may also produce an off-center bore) though this may be helped by the use of a mandrel during the welding process. I feel the Whitley method makes an excellent pre-form for an octagonal rifle barrel, and the Skelp method makes a good pre-form for a round Fowler or musket barrel (at least this thin version)

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@pattaylor5053
@pattaylor5053 4 года назад
Have a friend of mine who welds barrels at Dixon's and elsewhere. Upset the edges of the skelp so there is enough material for the weld. Start from the center with longer stock so the hole stays centered. Use heavier material wrought iron if you can get it but at least 3/8" thick. The mandrel helps keep the hole centered as well as round and as my friend says" It's all about the hole"
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 4 года назад
Pat Taylor Thanks for the info! Any way you could put me in contact with him? Upsetting would definitely help keep the hole from becoming pear shaped. I left the rounded edges to form a butt weld like they used to do it so it would really mash and upset together and have a large surface area that is welded. I didnt completely weld the seam on the outside because I really want to see how much I can (or can’t) get away with. I am going to make another section out of 3/8” stock as this is too thin to be evenly comparable to the other two barrel sections I have forged.
@pattaylor5053
@pattaylor5053 4 года назад
Been watching him do barrels for a few years helped him as well. I've pretty well summed up what needs to be done. Find me on Facebook Pat Taylor blacksmith and pm me for info
@АхметМерембаев
@АхметМерембаев 3 года назад
Поражает! Труд колоссальный! Я видел другое видео,где также методом кузнечной сварки просто человек наматывал разогретую круглого профиля заготовку на другой холодный стержень,а затем уже сваривал в трубочку. А у Вас более тяжелый труд.
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 3 года назад
Не могли бы вы запустить это через онлайн-переводчик и повторно опубликовать свой комментарий? Я не могу скопировать ваш текст, чтобы сделать это самостоятельно.
@АхметМерембаев
@АхметМерембаев 3 года назад
@@veteranironoutdoors8320 К сожалению не умею. Вы можете это видео найти в RU-vid.
@loganpollock1689
@loganpollock1689 Год назад
I know the old timers didn't use them, but eye protection, leather gloves and apron are absolutely a must. Good luck!
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 Год назад
Thanks for feeding the algorithm, saftey sam. I wonder if you know there is such a thing as being so safe, that its unsafe-this is one of those occasions.
@Firmglint91
@Firmglint91 2 года назад
Do you do normalizing heats on the barrels to fix the grain pattern? Would that make the barrel stronger or weaker?
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 2 года назад
No, but technically yes. I do not intentionally give it normalizing heats, but during the final passes of making the octagon flats, I work it at lower heats to really planish the surface and make it as even as I can get. This allows me to “work normalize” it. And having a tighter grain structure is always better than a large grain structure. (Except in an application you want the part to break or break before something else)
@Hugh_Mungus
@Hugh_Mungus 5 месяцев назад
Is this how they used to make the barrels back then? Amazing work by the way
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 5 месяцев назад
One of three ways we know of, yes.
@drason69
@drason69 4 года назад
Yeah, I kind of agree with Ouruborus/Kaitlyn on this... To easy.. like using sch40 pipe...I wanna see it go boom! None the less ! Lol 😀. Experimentation is fun!! 🍺⚒️❤️👋👋
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 4 года назад
I tested some sch 80 pipe once. Put 200 grains in it and rammed down two balls. Didn’t phase it.
@hannemannironworks1651
@hannemannironworks1651 4 года назад
Now let’s see it go boom also nice camera looks great!
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 4 года назад
Hannemann Ironworks Soon, very soon!
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 4 года назад
Hannemann Ironworks first we must drill and ream the bore, then drill and tap for a breech plug (that we must also forge and thread) and drill a touch hole. Oh yeah, forgot to mention...we have to make the drill bits and reamers!
@davidzeegers6583
@davidzeegers6583 2 года назад
great skills, thanks for sharing
@grandadz_forge
@grandadz_forge 4 года назад
Looks like a Holland swage. I would expect this to split before the first one.
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 4 года назад
Grandadz Forge it is a holland swage block. Picked it up at quadstate for about 60% of what they normally sell them for.
@sarkozygaming3629
@sarkozygaming3629 3 года назад
Congratulation you just got a new subscriber
@OuroborosArmory
@OuroborosArmory 4 года назад
I’m guessing this will be the weakest one...really want a sledge block...
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 4 года назад
Theoretically it is the strongest, as it only has one weld seam to fail. I’m going to be making another with this method from some 3/8” flat bar (same dimensions, I’ll just end up with a 3/16” bore vs a 5/16 one) so it’s dimensions will more closely match the other two. Still going to test this for strength.
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 4 года назад
Also, I thought that too. Picked up this swage block last September, and this is the first time I have used it!
@OuroborosArmory
@OuroborosArmory 4 года назад
Veteran Iron&Wood one weld, but thot the strongest set. The spiral weld I have seen has force o the top, the last one you were able to put force on the weld in all kinds of different ways, yet this one had force from only once side. Maybe with a mandrill it might be stronger.. but how do you keep the mandrill from welding. Granted this is all theoretical as I am a crappy welder and only really have book knowledge.
@danielcrawford7315
@danielcrawford7315 4 года назад
Not really sure however I reckon being mild steel it would be in order to use a stainless mandrel. However I have no real world basis for that theory. Next question is extraction of the mandrel after forgewelded w o distortion of one end of the bbl. I suppose one could super chill the whole assy in a freezer after surround it in dry ice...most likely for 24 hours. Then rapid heat the bbl to expand it then quickly press out or drive out the mandrel. Similar processes as installing or extracting bearing races in high tension applications. Again just a theory based in mechanical experience
@OuroborosArmory
@OuroborosArmory 4 года назад
Daniel Crawford real question would be, how did they do it back in the day?
@غلامعلیجمشیدوند
@غلامعلیجمشیدوند 4 месяца назад
خسته نباشی بسیار عالی اسم اون پودر چی هستش وبرای چی استفاده میشه
@akashmukherjee2405
@akashmukherjee2405 2 года назад
Just Subscribed!!!
@danieljonhson6367
@danieljonhson6367 3 года назад
You should try to make a gun barrel for a modern firearm a .22 caliber would be the safest to try.
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 3 года назад
Hello well intentioned internet expert! Many things wrong with your statement! 1-22lr operates in excess of 24,000 PSI, FAR ABOVE what black powder muzzleloaders can reach! 2-Small bore muzzleloaders are EXTREMELY difficult and finicky to forge! Theres a reason you dont see hardly any historical small bore (below 32 caliber/8mm) black powder front stuffers! 3-You should check out my video where I intentionally try to blow these test barrels up to see which method yields the strongest weld! 4-Ive already harshly test proofed the current barrel Im working with-TWICE! Because I wasnt happy with the first breech plug so I made a second and re-tested the barrel and new breech plug as a unit.
@stewertpadasole8001
@stewertpadasole8001 2 года назад
where are your glasses gloves or hearing protection?
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 2 года назад
😂 all that was ruined by the military. Now begone saftey sally. Go on, git. Your kind are not tolerated here.
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