Forget Rolex, Forget Audemars Piguet … This is the Luxury Sports Watch To Have | Watchfinder & Co.

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It’s not often you stumble across something truly special when it comes to watchmaking, and by that, I mean discover a great watch no one else really seems to be talking about. Usually, if it’s anything worth mentioning, everything’s already been said-take the Code 11.59 from Audemars Piguet or the Odysseus from A. Lange & Söhne, for example. But in the case of the H. Moser & Cie. Pioneer Centre Seconds, however, here’s a luxury stainless steel sports watch that seems to have slipped under the radar-that just might be one of the very best.
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@watchfinder 11 месяцев назад

We know you want more watches…. click here: linktr.ee/watchfinder

@leeharding8306 3 года назад

What you get when a company focuses all its efforts on quality rather than marketing. H Moser 👌🏼

@paintballplayer700 3 года назад

eh there was a looooooot of machine-made anglage in those macro shots, or at least hand anglage with a lot of scratch marks left.

@NatiiixLP 2 года назад

H. Moser doesn't focus on marketing? Seriously? They're famous for their marketing shenanigans.

@Guitarorpheo 3 года назад

Your videos are absolutely amazing. Contextual documentaries about the human condition, pivoting around watches. Amazing production, great writing and a smooth, articulate voice. Love it.

@danielhabif7347 3 года назад

It is indeed an amazing piece, and it works perfectly as an every day casual utilitary watch, at least for me. I own a green one and I absolutely love everything about it. People have no idea what to think about it, that makes it more confortable to wear and enjoy with out energy drain.

@ayandey137 Год назад

Okay rich guy

@drnick40 6 месяцев назад

You said it right. It is a stealth wealth kind of watch. You wear one because you are a watch connoisseur and you are doing it for yourself, not for the crowd. It is a watch for a person who is mature enough and doesn’t need to prove anything to anyone. For the rest there is Rolex.

@yokel8496 3 года назад

Yup, I own one of these. I was shown it in a London AD a couple of years ago -- having not known that HMC even made steel cases. Fifteen minutes after discovering its existence I left the AD with it on my wrist. "Sports watch"? Maybe. Large, rugged and possessed of decent WR it is. However, it is also beautiful -- HMC fumé dial and slim bezel (small watches pretending to be macho by sporting acres of "porthole" bezel do little for me). It has the additional advantage (not mentioned in the video) of obscurity. HMC makes only about 1,500 units per year in total, so it is very unlikely that you'll find several in any given bar -- which I like.

@inkeduped5005 3 года назад

Completely in house as well. even the mainsprings. Great watches, great company

@drzaius844 3 года назад

I think the video addressed the obscurity of HMC pretty well.

@saadabdullah4245 2 года назад

Which watch brand is he talking about the russian one.

@benjaminklos9637 3 года назад

Discussion about the actual watch begins at 9:24

@77cjam 3 года назад

Calling this a "Sports Watch" simply proves the watch enthusiasts obsession with labelling a watch. Nice watch

@forgottenautos8461 3 года назад

Agree. The watch looks nice, but nothing special to me. Put a Miyota 4hz movement inside, and you have a really nice $300 watch.

@WINDINGCROWNS 3 года назад

Definitely nothing sporty about it. A dress watch is more an accurate description

@ethancushing3398 3 года назад

@@WINDINGCROWNS rubber band and the larger size makes it a sports watch imo

@seamasterist 3 года назад

More a dress watch than a sports watch. A beautiful piece nonetheless!

@Vlogmoviesproduction 3 года назад

Sports as in Sports Jacket, not sports athletics. This was in contrast to dress watches which were more formal watches.

@pasquale78 3 года назад

1:25 oof thats a big scratch

@armancz 3 года назад

@gifgaf gufgoof Too late for that, it's a lost cause, just throw it in the trash and get a new watch instead.

@martintrejo1950 3 года назад

Lint

@clementk8139 3 года назад

It hurt my eyes too.

@drzaius844 3 года назад

It IS a sports watch LOL

@anubhavtaneja3771 3 года назад

“The French Revolution gave the aristocrats pause for thought, some literally” 😂 Came for the watch, stayed for the history lesson and sound advice

@Dreams- 3 года назад

I thought he said "permanently", but I'm too lazy to go back and find out

@dalailama8845 3 года назад

@@Dreams- same hahaha

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Your photography is perfect, as always. There is some irregularity with the smoothness of the second hand. Not something I would expect from a Moser.

@thelonious-dx9vi 3 года назад

I think Moser is coming, in a big way. It's just class, and it's real. Even the steel ones though ... steep numbers. I almost wish they were a little more out-of-reach, which would make it easier to get them out of my head.

@DjNav1gatr 3 года назад

I watched this on mute while attending a zoom meeting and it was so therapeutic

@AsianGentleman 3 года назад

If the title was "H. Moser & Cie Centre Seconds", i still would've dove head first to watch this video

@cls63amgwagon34 3 года назад

Yeah but all the non watch nerds on this channel wouldn’t. If you enjoy the video itself, you have to deal with the titles, because if they get no views, no videos... blame RU-vid

@davidm8657 3 года назад

Why is that? Not a watch nerd, but am interested in treating myself. Thanks

@chinchinche 3 года назад

It's a good day when Watchfinder releases a new video.

@shafiqashraff2121 3 года назад

Yeah

@larry.l 3 года назад

Amen

@shumailiqbal5420 3 года назад

I love your videos. I wish you could include a lume shot of the watches you include in your videos. Would love to see this h.moser & cie lume shot which rarely uses lume in its applied indices.

@ThomasLaang 3 года назад

I wouldn't call that a "sports watch".

@freehey629 3 года назад

Watch categories are mere styling cues nowadays anyway. Can you really call the speedmaster and gmt master sports watches when there already are $50 watches that are much more accurate, durable, have 15 time zones and 5 stopwatches and countdown timers all at the same time?

@caerphoto 3 года назад

It's a bit of a stretch to call *any* mechanical watch a “sports watch” tbh. They’re pretty much exclusively luxury items, and I include the likes of Seiko 5s there.

@OwynDavies 3 года назад

Therein lies the point 👍🏻

@Andre-hi9xn 3 года назад

ThomasLaang , What is a "sports watch"?

@ThomasLaang 3 года назад

@@Andre-hi9xn There are sports watches, and then there are "sports watches". This is neither. No minute markers. No crown guards. Limited lume. "Fancy design". I would call this a "dress watch". ;-)

@chazzcombs 3 года назад

That is a beautiful timepiece. I don't really have a use for one but I can certainly appreciate how spectacular it is.

@tackontitan 3 года назад

It's nice to see Moser starting to rise up in the watch world

@misteratoz 3 года назад

Just don't forget the a lange and sohne triple split too

@BobbyDazzler888 3 года назад

Lange is so far ahead in engineering than patek ever was or will be.

@SinnerAndSaint 3 года назад

Aaand it's on the channel now! Boom!

@dusansamardzic250 3 года назад

U from future bro?

@Gooseman2k2 3 года назад

I just bought the Heritage Centre Seconds in Funky Blue! The pilot style watch with the big arabics...

@cedshred1676 3 года назад

Beautiful watch and great history lesson. I’d certainly spring for it at 50% off, but at retail it’s out of reach. An old history professor of mine was fond of saying “and they were shortened by a head” when talking about the French Revolution.

@Tableturn 3 года назад

Me: Watches any Watchfinder review video. Also me: I should get a manicure.

@bentleygt3716 3 года назад

i LOVE this watch. well, H. Moser as a Brand. however, i found you video strange this time. you talked MORE about other brands, pocket watches, clocks, than H.Moser !!. thanks for the video.

@troman5000 3 года назад

Good looking watch. Thanks!!!

@edmundwyss 3 года назад

Didn’t know Flava Flav has been referencing an early esoteric horological era this whole time.

@bobsandwich2704 3 года назад

Here's a tip: #OnePlusBudsZ are available now!

@ttbfan 2 года назад

Yeaaaaahhhhh boooyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!

@WINDINGCROWNS 3 года назад

Even this expensive watch in this vid has a QC issue. The minute hand has a dent in the close up micro shots. Visible at 2:31- 2:43 on the bottom of the minute hand.

@usmanmehfooz3223 3 года назад

The best story teller around! Love your videos

@jb6027 3 года назад

Pray tell, what sport would that watch be suited for? Chess? Canasta? Stamp collecting, maybe?

@ivanovooko 3 года назад

for the sport of watching "the queen's gambit".

@Wvk5zc 3 года назад

e-sport?

@Alias_Anybody 3 года назад

@@Wvk5zc Too many magnetic fields.

@drzaius844 3 года назад

You could swim with it, it’s kind of a land and sea watch. Take it to the office, take it to the pool, take it on a boat. You get the idea.

@Pwwh0711 3 года назад

Darts

@shaverray4462 3 года назад

Hmmm, I suppose the rubber strap, stainless steel case and 120m water resistance are the nods to this being a sports watch, but I think it’s a bit of a stretch. Still, I like Moser (although those jewels would look so much better in gold chatons) and this piece would look good in a more formal setting. Nice video, as usual.

@grgmak Год назад

It's a dream of a daily driver watch, notably the dome glass puts it on the formal side. Specs are great, you wouldn't guess the 72h power reserve and water resistance by its low profile. Clean no date dial, nice lume and the fume match with the retro logo is madness. I have it in red. The coolest version was by far the gold with grey dial from launch, too bad I was a watch infant then and couldn't claim it. I agree with some previous comment, the metal finishing is not top tier, like the price. Then again, it's... "very rare". Love it.

@milantoth2045 3 года назад

Amazing! Thanks

@bobbydazzler1780 3 года назад

Sounds like non Rolex are gathering dust on the shelves at Watchfinder again.

@atl3630 3 года назад

Rolex would sit on my shelf too if I had access to all these superior watches.

@riojimatsuoka 3 года назад

Lower middle class people in Hong Kong wear Rolex, upper middle class and above wear some really crazy shit. Dang, even the cashier at my local gas station wears a Sub.

@PuReExquizite 3 года назад

@@riojimatsuoka probably fake, fake watch industry is boomin over there

@riojimatsuoka 3 года назад

@Corleone my barber in the late 80's wore a Calatrava. Rolex makes fine watches, just not great watches.

@bobbydazzler1780 3 года назад

@@riojimatsuoka well lots of fakes out there but you have a valid point. Aspirational working class and middle class can afford steel Rolex - hence the massive demand - but not so much Two time or all precious metal watches. The draw with Rolex is there will always be a buyer. Other brands attract wealthier clientele or watch nerds who don’t mind the prospect of losing half their money should they sell. Cartier, Breitling, Zenith even JLC all fall away on the secondary market. Rolex stay strong come what may.

@JasonSimonSmith 3 года назад

Lovely as usual.. but jeepers kept wanting to see the detail on the sides of the lugs ! Carry on..

@wenmoon834 3 года назад

9:25 is when he starts talking about the watch

@warrenbosch3581 3 года назад

Love the watch, love wwatches. I thought the video would never end!

@ryanjofre Год назад

I personally loved the history on this viji. Thankyou. Far from “rambling”! The invention of the Guillotine & the number of heads that rolled was utterly insane. Moser isn’t just in their own class like Girard Perregaux, they’re on another planet. Sadly 😭 the Moser watches I love are of the stratospheric price class.

@garylawton230 3 года назад

@7:00 DVD players were expensive but not thousands. I was an early adopter and paid £600 for mine in 1997 imported from the US. 👍😜

@spencerhansen5404 3 года назад

If you could please review the new Stefano ricci octagon annual calendar, I would really appreciate that. It’s a fascinating watch. Not sure how I feel about it yet.

@vicg5323 2 года назад

Awesome story. Best yet. Love the watch too!

@RemusWolves 3 года назад

I always thought I knew watches. Your channel proves to me that I do not properly know watches. Bravo WC.

@markdance574 3 года назад

It’s a fantastic brand with some amazing items in their collection but I’m not I look it them as sport watches - to me at least they appear to be more smart casual / dress watch .

@seaweed719 2 года назад

120m water resistance, stainless steel case, rubber strap/SS bracelet are more than enough to be a luxury sports watch. Don’t forget that RO only has 50m water resistance and it’s a luxury sports watch “icon”.

@hayatepilot 3 года назад

Please do the Jaeger-Lecoultre Master Ultra Thin Perpetual next! Preferably the white gold version. I loved that watch in Doctor Strange!

@Chup1979 3 года назад

Can you review the H. Moser Streamliner?

@TheDerisavi 3 года назад

A friend asked me: why you install a rubber strap on your Grand Seiko (SBGR307)?!!! I have to show him this video!

@osamakhattab4709 3 года назад

You Are indeed a very fine storyteller, Salute to You Sir

@lapoupadotcom 3 года назад

Nice Just One More Watch reference

@darytuan1130 3 года назад

Please please do a review on the new streamliner centre seconds

@tockingwatches2377 3 года назад

I have one and it’s awesome.

@geoffread2707 3 года назад

Nice, but my grail remains an steel ‘date only’ overseas

@ayandey137 Год назад

1:25 that scratch 😢😢

@tarquesh 3 года назад

The pioneer is the traditional, while the streamliner is out of the box pure Moser. Sure, the pioneer is full in house, a peace made by superb watchmakers, talented people. I do not own one, but if my chance come i go for the streamliner with that smooth integrated bracelet.

@jimmuisenga5025 Год назад

Bought this watch last week, DLC coated. Best watch by far on the wrist I’ve ever owned, and the dial, unbelievable. Get one.

@PorscheCayenneS 11 месяцев назад

Still satisfied? Met some guys who sold it after the first honeymoon weeks.

@jimmuisenga5025 11 месяцев назад

@@PorscheCayenneS yes! Still in the regular rotation.

@wataki_watcheswatakiwatche3160 3 года назад

I do love the ramblings, despite the comments, but I would also love to know more about this actual watch, just when I thought we were getting to it from the ‘macro-teasing’ the video ended. 🥺

@sushimshah2896 3 года назад

1:23-Ouch!!

@yannkohnen6412 3 года назад

I cant find this watch on their website. Only the one with a black case. Can anyone help?

@DeProgressiePioneer 3 года назад

Please do a Alpha Sierra Falcon lvd138s review, its a very nice fitting, working watch, but it has not the populairity that it should have!

@angusmcintosh1857 3 года назад

You can skip the first 6'40"

@sushimshah2896 3 года назад

A shame if you just come here for the watch

@franky3fingers337 3 года назад

I was just going to post this too. Thanks.

@enriqueparedespinel1694 3 года назад

You're missing the point of the channel.

@steviedj6730 3 года назад

@@enriqueparedespinel1694 hmmm, i enjoy the watch stuff. Not so much the history. Im pretty fed up of what Hans Wildorf did or said in the 30's. But, it's lucky we're not all the same. For me, once the narrator got onto the watch it is a great video ...

@branguzzi1 3 года назад

Well done, good sir.

@yvelf 3 года назад

this is my next watch to buy. I've been wanting this one for some time now

@PorscheCayenneS 11 месяцев назад

Did you buy it or did you lose your interest?

@yvelf 11 месяцев назад

@@PorscheCayenneS still want it! Green dial with both bracelets (steel and rubber)

@errolmacdonald3256 2 года назад

For some reason I only like the watch when I see the tastefully sporty silicone band so perfectly colour-matched to the dial.

@carlrees5574 3 года назад

Ok so I am now at 9:12 and still not talking about HM&C..... i normally like the long winded intro's but this is going on a bit!! i love that watch though!!

@skyhua3220 3 года назад

Whenever watchfinder makes a video, I make popcorn.

@TheAaffri 3 года назад

Dream watches :)) H. Moser are my watches of choice

@seaweed719 2 года назад

An optional stainless steel bracelet with micro-adjustments is available. Putting it on makes the watch very sporty.

@turbyoulance 2 года назад

Please get to the point, Model and Price ?

@enriqueali 3 года назад

H. Moser & Cie has been consistently trending on watch forums for the past few years already. To claim that many watch enthusiasts don't know of the brand, or are unaware of their quality is kind of hard to believe.

@onepoh4680 3 года назад

I feel like all the major watch dealer either stocked many H. Moser watches, have a stake on the company, or are getting pay a lot for marketing. The amount of media coverage for these watches is not “normal”, specially for what they offer, nothing special imo.

@BobbyDazzler888 3 года назад

@@onepoh4680 ive noticed the company trolls their own brand in comments.

@theoverlord1925 Год назад

I love H. Moser, they are putting out great stuff.

@mikesb69-87 3 года назад

The writing style of the company's name on the dial really looks elegant

@PrimeMatt 3 года назад

Looks far more dressy than sports. Not something I'd wear everyday.

@9876Sven 3 года назад

It‘s 43.5mm and Feels sporty on the wrist, i wear mine everyday

@ultimaetsolder 3 года назад

I wear mine daily.

@arzemagic 3 года назад

What’s going on around the 9 area on the case side ?

@Xenol1997 3 года назад

Feel we need a review of a Sinn some day

@Houthiandtheblowfish 3 года назад

In house movement ! rounds of applause 👏

@saint6563 3 года назад

You can feel good about "having what everyone else has"; because as a non-early adopter, you get the technology w/o paying the high price. Enjoy the vids, have a great 2021!

@MrJamesDuffy 3 года назад

Damn, you took us on one hell of a journey to get to the H. Moser & Co. Well done, sir.

@amirjohny 3 года назад

Can you please make a video on the grand seiko SBGA407

@timhenry326 3 года назад

That is definitely a dual purpose timepiece by the use of luminous hands it removes it from the totally dress watch category plus the the size makes it more contemporary it's either a love or hate thing with the rubber strap but I always personally never follow the crowd

@ckfvideo 3 года назад

This watch is destined to be a classic. The price is somewhat dear but given what's going on with Rolex these days my money would be on the H. Moser. Shame my local dealer only has the red dial...gorgeous but I think a bit too loud for this design.

@mohammedajlanshariff5296 2 года назад

Red dial is the best one

@drnick40 6 месяцев назад

Love the red dial! I have the blue dial just like the one in the video. Completely agree with you that these watches are going to be a classic.

@apoorvarya2865 3 года назад

Man I'm obsessed with the background music. Can anyone pls provide the background music info pls🙏🙏🙏🙏

@GugunArief 3 года назад

Please review Oris Caliber 400

@davidbrewer7451 3 года назад

Truly beautiful watch. Black leather strap and this would be my dress watch without question!!

@davidbrewer7451 3 года назад

@gifgaf gufgoof Thank you for your learned opinion.

@cgsalgados 3 года назад

What a great story!

@ljr35 3 года назад

what utter bollocks. the whole watch internet is talking about Moser.

@BobbyDazzler888 3 года назад

Its a brand without identity in their watches.

@ljr35 3 года назад

@@BobbyDazzler888 only if you live under a rock.

@i1p2p3o4c5a6m7p9o9 3 года назад

Hhahahahahahahahah

@vonvettet2086 3 года назад

Nautilae? Wonderful

@ofmanynicknames8196 3 года назад

So to make it a sports watch they...added lume? I see they’ve taken the Grand Seiko approach to this segment.

@ganeshpalani8401 3 года назад

I'm slowly but surely turning into a moser and cie devotee

@MyCUTboyz 3 года назад

Hey!!!! This is the second moser video.

@karlmadsen3179 3 года назад

Put a rubber strap on a dress watch and, voila, a sports watch. Kind of like putting a "go faster stripe" on a family sedan makes it an F1.

@BobbyDazzler888 3 года назад

Or a stripe on your forehead.

@Alias_Anybody 3 года назад

@gifgaf gufgoof 15mm??? This thing is thicker than the NH35 watches.

@pierremartin9048 3 года назад

I think this channel’s oratorical methodology/delivery has been modeled per Richard Attenborough.

@RR-cz5ig 3 года назад

Nice watch

@Super1venom 3 года назад

this is the future of watch hmc will rule ! price will skyrocket in few years

@istvanbartha7985 3 года назад

Where is this watch made? This video didn't capture me so I didn't see all of it...Firstly, it didn't say " swiss made" on the dial and secondly, the movement seemed a bit coarse....

@angusmcintosh1857 3 года назад

Sorry, I was wrong. It's 9'40" before he starts talking about the watch, the rest is the usual ramble through his cliche list. Beautiful photography and an interesting watch though.

@ossamajamal2097 3 года назад

Review Damasko and Sinn, please.

@thehundredthmonkey5972 3 года назад

Wow that build up, you really sold me on this

@impexRQ 3 года назад

The Streamliner or the Pioner with rotating bezel are totally outstanding pieces of Art

@BobbyDazzler888 3 года назад

Calm down. Streamliner is fugly.

@steveyrock1 3 года назад

I am saving for this watch and I am a few years out. I hope prices don't jump

@RickyRicon2023 3 года назад

Which is the cost in usd ?

@steveyrock1 3 года назад

@@RickyRicon2023 About 10k used

@RickyRicon2023 3 года назад

@@steveyrock1 wow it is a good amount of money... do you think is a good value for your money?

@steveyrock1 3 года назад

@@RickyRicon2023 Luxury Watches are never good value for money. As for an independent in-house brand then yes.

@brettrosson5229 3 года назад

that was awesomeness

@lassezoellner7576 3 года назад

Most poetic watch reviews on RU-vid

@gmshadowtraders 2 года назад

Somebody needs to remind their designers, of something called a minute track.

@panaceiasuberes6464 3 года назад

"Forget Rolex, Forget Audemars Piguet … This Is The Luxury Sports Watch To Have... because our purchasers got us a huge inventory on them". Their perpetual? Yes. Their new central chrono? Hell yes. This one? A pass for me.

@yokel8496 3 года назад

Given the very small number of watches manufactured each year by HMC, the inventory is quite unlikely to be "huge". But, business is business 😉

@Gooseman2k2 3 года назад

They have 4 for sale... Hublot they have 193...

@panaceiasuberes6464 3 года назад

@@Gooseman2k2 Compared to the yearly numbers of Hublot, those 4 are huge. www.watchfinder.co.uk/H.%20Moser%20and%20Cie/watches And today its 5 watches ;) that's like 30 new Hublots for sale in a day.