Former Boeing Manager Walks Off Flight After Realizing It Was A 737 MAX 9

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While the world was in shock seeing the door of an Alaska Airlines 737 MAX blowout mid-flight earlier this year, an ex-Boeing senior manager had already determined beforehand that he would never step foot on the family of aircraft again. With a keen sense of the issues surrounding the aircraft type, Ed Pierson said that he walked off an Alaska flight in 2023 after discovering it was operated by a 737 MAX 9.
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@hilman94 3 месяца назад

1990's : if it ain't boeing, i ain't going 2020's : if it's boeing, i ain't going

@aycc-nbh7289 3 месяца назад

And what about times where equipment changes or cancellations happen and passengers are forced onto Boeing planes?

@Bdoodletalks 3 месяца назад

How the turn tables indeed 😞

@sealand000 3 месяца назад

The plane could go boing boing.

@raaspider 3 месяца назад

Bus or train time if possible@@aycc-nbh7289

@thewhitefalcon8539 3 месяца назад

@@aycc-nbh7289 They have no right to kidnap you.

@peternguyen3704 3 месяца назад

Rip John Barnett

@gregculverwell 3 месяца назад

Pierson needs to watch his back otherwise he will be the next one to feel extremely depressed.

@Liberty2358 3 месяца назад

Barnett the lying fake expert who has little or no airplane building experience.

@hanfo420 3 месяца назад

„self induced“ of course

@johnsheppard314 3 месяца назад

no way in hell that was suicide. I don't buy it. he was murdered, cos he knew too much.

@alexlowe2054 3 месяца назад

John Barnett didn't kill himself.

@bill5982 3 месяца назад

This guy knows the plane and knows the quality control issues at Boeing. If says the plane is unsafe, I would recommend listening to him.

@rocistone6570 3 месяца назад

That would require too much good sense,

@kristensorensen2219 3 месяца назад

😂😂😤🤣🤣🤔🌰s!

@thalesnemo2841 3 месяца назад

Hear,hear!

@penultimateh766 3 месяца назад

Wrong. Publicity stunt. How many 737s are flying and how many have had incidents?

@_Coffee4Closers 3 месяца назад

@@penultimateh766 Exactly... this clown could not even identify the plane without reading the seat back brochure... he clearly is no Engineer, and does not deal with the plane type in any capacity.

@nzsaltflatsracer8054 3 месяца назад

His action speaks volumes on the Max series.

@Liberty2358 3 месяца назад

Pierson was fired for casue and he was wrong for blaming MCAS issue with factory overtime. These are separate issues and are not related in any way.

@PInk77W1 3 месяца назад

0 max fatalities in USA Mexico Canada So America’s Cent. America Europe India China Australia

@dr.woozie7500 3 месяца назад

@@PInk77W1 It doesn't matter. 346 people dead in two separate crashes with the MAX, the cause is Boeing's faulty systems and they are entirely to blame.

@rosskania5606 3 месяца назад

@@PInk77W1so does the souls who lost their lives in aisa and africa not matter to you?

@PInk77W1 3 месяца назад

@@dr.woozie7500 Who oversees Boeing and proclaimed and certified the max to be safe

@salomonix 3 месяца назад

will you guys cover the Boeing whistleblower found dead? suspicious to say the least.

@Anurania 3 месяца назад

Boeing has also banned its employees from talking about how bad things are and is actively trawling social media to identify anyone who is breaking that rule.

@user-tr8fs7lm8r 3 месяца назад

In fairness he was not in the greatest of health.

@VivaLaDirt 3 месяца назад

@@user-tr8fs7lm8rbots attacking already😂

@sonyboybluespower 3 месяца назад

Yeah gun shots arent very healthy aye@@user-tr8fs7lm8r

@YukariAkiyama 3 месяца назад

@@user-tr8fs7lm8rYea, people who die via gunshot are typically not very healthy, because they’re dead

@CRTLALTBACKSPACE 3 месяца назад

Ed Pierson is not suicidal

@clickbaitpolice1750 3 месяца назад

Oh stop with the conspiracy theories already. There’s no way this guy was murdered. If they wanted to kill him they’d have done it years ago.

@nickjw88 3 месяца назад

Neither was John Barnet.

@eys-yt 3 месяца назад

😂😂😂

@IARRCSim 3 месяца назад

If he isn't careful, the police will find him somewhere and claim he was.

@gokuldastvm 3 месяца назад

What about the rest of the passengers?

@scpatl4now 3 месяца назад

When Boeing merged with McDonnell Douglas, it was MD that ended up running things and their culture was much different than Boeing's. They were more into cost cutting and getting product out quickly. The old Boeing engineers were much more focused on quality and safety. That Boeing culture is gone now.

@edwardrichardson5567 3 месяца назад

Facts

@richardnixon8795 3 месяца назад

Please please explain the 737 PCU issue. Just askin'. :)

@scpatl4now 3 месяца назад

@@richardnixon8795Frank Shrontz who ran Boeing from 1986-1996 started the culture change .Assuming leadership just before the Berlin Wall fell, Shrontz aggressively acquired companies like Rockwell and McDonnell Douglas to consolidate Boeing's defense and aviation dominance. Though later criticized for emphasizing short-term profits over design at the expense of longer-term issues, Shrontz diversified Boeing for the globalized 1990s while delivering steady gains before passing the reins in 1996. This was where things started going south in 1986, five years before the 737 PCU issue

@johnweber6612 3 месяца назад

Quit blaming everything on the merger.

@scpatl4now 3 месяца назад

@@johnweber6612Why? It was what caused many of the problems they have now

@mfaizsyahmi 3 месяца назад

Really praying that Pierson won't suddenly become suicidal 🙏‍🙏‍ RIP John "He Didn't Kill Himself" Barnett

@herbertie4685 3 месяца назад

😮😮😅😅⁶6666⁶5🎉3

@khoi83 3 месяца назад

Take care Ed Pierson, don't be the next ...

@CheveraChino 3 месяца назад

He will be the next

@pete5668 3 месяца назад

If I were him, I would be hiring someone to start the car in the morning.

@clickbaitpolice1750 3 месяца назад

Oh stop with the conspiracy theories already. There’s no way this guy was murdered. If they wanted to kill him they’d have done it years ago.

@janinegrosenick 3 месяца назад

My thought exactly.

@andresciahooten9598 3 месяца назад

I was thinking the same thing

@Will777X 3 месяца назад

I highly admire Ed Pierson for his bravery and advocacy against Boeing’s fiasco over safety and quality of product.

@christopherkozal7987 3 месяца назад

You do? he’s so brave for coming out after the Max crashes & when quality lapses started to become more public. So brave! No, it’s convenient now to trash Boeing & he makes money of of it.

@everyhandletaken 3 месяца назад

@@christopherkozal7987 makes money through his... non-profit ?

@MobileDecay 3 месяца назад

I hope he wasn't murdered too. 😬

@PrincePorter 3 месяца назад

When you trade engineers for the bean counters

@sirensynapse5603 3 месяца назад

Wow, how original. I only hear that 56 times per boeing video.

@weldonyoung1013 3 месяца назад

Bean connter !

@alphastratus6623 3 месяца назад

@@sirensynapse5603 It's still true.

@lilstubthumb 3 месяца назад

And then you pick those bean counters based on diversity instead of qualifications.

@PetrolHeadBrasil 3 месяца назад

I worked for 11 years in aviation, 6 years with Boeing 737-300/700/800 and 767-200/300. I was always PROUD to have worked with them! Today, I don't travel by Boeing even if it's free...

@edofluit6568 3 месяца назад

I think this kinda irrational.. like you still travel by car I assume? which is way more dangerous. even more so then any boeing. so if you dont want to travel by boeing why still with other modes of transport that are STATISTICALLY more dangerous? genuine question

@somethingsomething404 3 месяца назад

I still trust the 737, even the MAX 8 seems okay.

@pmullins1495 3 месяца назад

You missed the point about CURRENT unsafe manufacturing practices & absence of adequate Quality Cintrol program (both super important. NOT about overall flying facets statistics. It's specifically about the "B737 MAX-9."

@edofluit6568 3 месяца назад

@@pmullins1495 and you missed my point that was about him not wanting to travel with boeing at all.

@MrDrimtim 3 месяца назад

What about 777-200LR , 777-300ER?

@ValerieGriner 3 месяца назад

He'd better watch his back. RIP, John Barnett.

@patriottothecore6215 3 месяца назад

How long before they stop printing that it’s a Max on the safety cards?

@unr3alGaming 3 месяца назад

You should be able to look at the engines and tell if it's a MAX pretty quickly.

@EpicierVeneneux0 3 месяца назад

You should check Ryanair's Boeing 737-8200.

@aalaptube 3 месяца назад

You can't do that. The safety protocols and documentation are tightly linked to the aircraft model.

@jonathanr1788 3 месяца назад

At Ryanair they call those "gamechangers" instead of max. Safety card says" 737-8200

@Deex26252 3 месяца назад

@@aalaptubethey already changed the name. Or tried to at least. Google it.

@tiernankeane5643 3 месяца назад

“If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going”

@mohwybar5832 3 месяца назад

That’s not even what he was saying

@nightcoregirlprinzeugen7234 3 месяца назад

The problem is not with Boeing. Modern aircraft rely too much on electronics that are prone to malfunctioning and failure when exposed to electromagnetic pulses originating from seismic events. These types of incidents will increase exponentially in the upcoming days.

@gdwnet 3 месяца назад

@@nightcoregirlprinzeugen7234 Absolute rubbish. Airbus work just fine. ATR 72-600 work just fine. ERJ's work just fine. Tell me something - which electronics went mental that caused the plug door to blow out?

@nightcoregirlprinzeugen7234 3 месяца назад

@@gdwnetWhat do you think is causing all of the military helicopters, aircraft and private airplanes to crash in the United States? How about the F-35 stealth fighter that literally flew on its own for several miles after its pilot ejected? All types of modern aircraft regardless of the manufacturer are prone to malfunctioning upon exposure to electromagnetic pulses originating from seismic events.

@EuropeanRailfanAlt 3 месяца назад

@@nightcoregirlprinzeugen7234The thing is, for the 737 MAX, it's different. The first version of the MCAS only got information from one AoA sensor, meaning if that sensor failed, the MCAS would still use the faulty information. Also it would repeatedly push the nose down, and wasn't able to be overridden easily. Lastly, Boeing didn't tell anyone about its existence.

@Geoff31818 3 месяца назад

And that tells you everything you need to know

@joeschmoe21 3 месяца назад

Lufthansa ordered 100 Max 9s in November. Unlike 'experts' on RU-vid, Lufthansa engineers know the science and love the plane so much that they ordered 100, first time they ordered 737 in 30 years. It is legal to spread information on RU-vid. It is naïve to believe them.

@FrozenDung 3 месяца назад

Airbus A319/320 for short huals for me I wanna live

@commonsense5741 3 месяца назад

Last guy to say something isn't here anymore.

@Phlegethon 3 месяца назад

RIP John There needs to be more whileblowers

@geerdjacobs6484 3 месяца назад

He should hire bodyguards immediately!

@everTriumph 3 месяца назад

There is nothing like confidence in the product you helped to build.

@sjv9147s 3 месяца назад

He knows and doesn't need to risk his life.

@ionikre 3 месяца назад

My boy Pierson are going to get self inflicted injuries 🏃🏃🏃

@adityakapoor8055 3 месяца назад

I also decided in 2019 that I would never, ever fly on the MAX again. I revisited this decision in 2022, 1yr+ after the MAX had started flying again. And I found very little info on the issues the FAA found at Boeing and what changes had been prescribed. And so I stuck to my decision, and boy I'm glad I did

@dreamthedream8929 Месяц назад

What for? They haven't crashed since those two

@johnhadley7715 3 месяца назад

Smart man. Also, alive.

@alabama1413 3 месяца назад

I agree with Ed Pierson & actively avoid any airline using the Max at all. I’ve done this since the two tragedies & nothing has changed my mind on the overall safety of that specific variant. I will only fly the NG variant of the 737, otherwise it’s Airbus for me.

@I-AM-OMIAVIATION22036 3 месяца назад

@GeoStreber 3 месяца назад

I'm also fine with flying the 737 Classic.

@EuropeanRailfanAlt 3 месяца назад

Good to know you're flying the other 737 variants

@joeschmoe21 3 месяца назад

@christerry1773 3 месяца назад

That’ll teach them

@damncars2618 3 месяца назад

"What do you know about the Max?". He was being set up by the airline. I would want off too.

@beatsbysavaun 3 месяца назад

They probably genuinely rigged it, to crash or explode with hopes that HE WOULD BE ON IT 😮

@satriojumeneng7055 3 месяца назад

This is what will happen if the top management oppresses the middle and lower management to meet their target.

@user-gl9iz1bp1r 3 месяца назад

Awareness is critical. Awareness buys time, time buys options - until it doesn't.

@MrJckpttsn 3 месяца назад

That the former manager of Boing won't fly Boing speaks volumes.

@dillonrohe4988 3 месяца назад

"Quality be damned - keep those stock prices up!"

@wetbadger2 3 месяца назад

Ford, GM, etc

@thewhitefalcon8539 3 месяца назад

their stock price already crashed.

@Ice_Karma 3 месяца назад

@@thewhitefalcon8539 The comment was about the past leading up to recent events, not _now._

@jameskilrain9350 3 месяца назад

Keep their planes up.

@richardcallihan9746 2 месяца назад

Nikkei Haley, what did you do to Boeing?

@hugochan2821 3 месяца назад

Before the door flew off, when people warn you about something bad about newly built Boeing planes, people call them conspiracy. When something really happen on the plane, people call this unexpected and unprecedented events. This is how things go. Companies and governments can brush off all negative opinions about their companies or their government, and when things come out true, they can say they they did not expect this from happening at all.

@TheInsultInvestor 3 месяца назад

people are evil. mostly

@phantagirlable 3 месяца назад

More like before the two Max planes crashed and killed 350 people but you are correct.

@icarus313 3 месяца назад

The concept you're describing here is often called "plausible deniability" and it's the tried-and-true method that shady companies and governments use to break rules without being punished. Happens all the time and now Boeing's doing it too. 😒

@Quasihamster 3 месяца назад

Smart choice, but they can also get you in your car, apparently.

@Salty-Crackers 3 месяца назад

😁

@wetbadger2 3 месяца назад

Angela Chao?

@pmullins1495 3 месяца назад

Your car's master- computers are hackable by assassins (Remotely controllable; so are Boeing aircraft autopilots). It's proven repeatedly.

@seanarmstrong8255 3 месяца назад

I wonder how many glitches and flaws have been covered up and will rear their heads over the coming years.

@duinay3 3 месяца назад

they say, "if it's boeing - i ain't going", but it's worse than that, if they say, "i work for boeing, and i ain't going" -

@1968konrad 3 месяца назад

Its for sure every passengers right 1) to get the correct information about the aircraft type when enterding the aircraft and 2) to leave the aircraft free of charge if the information wasnt correct

@rollvideo 3 месяца назад

This is absolutely no surprise.

@carinakaron8068 3 месяца назад

John Barnett did not kill himself

@craigford4641 3 месяца назад

This Man should watch his every next step ! Mysterious death,s will curiously begin ! 😢😢

@benwilson6145 3 месяца назад

Boeing copying Putin

@donpierce4829 3 месяца назад

Well if Hillary was involved I would agree!!

@kimberlywoodbury1739 3 месяца назад

@@donpierce4829Why the heck are you still blathering about Hillary?

@tomstamford6837 3 месяца назад

@@kimberlywoodbury1739 Stupidity, what else!

@johnsheppard314 3 месяца назад

@@kimberlywoodbury1739MAGAts, not the greatest brain power around.

@dannmm6745 3 месяца назад

I have been avoiding the Max since 2019… and I will continue doing so.

@sharonshoop495 3 месяца назад

Good!!!!Don't fly any other Boeing planes either. Hater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ramyfares9099 19 дней назад

try Fly Dubai's 737 Max's, trust me they are amazing, the best 737 Max's you can fly on.

@dannmm6745 19 дней назад

@@ramyfares9099 My concerns are not about any airline but the aircraft itself. Maybe in 5 or 10 years I change my mind but not anytime soon.

@Mutasis_Mutandis 3 месяца назад

The man is very believable.

@PaulsAcademyTH 3 месяца назад

I would have asked the flight attendant back "what do you know about the Max?"

@lunalady1821 3 месяца назад

Hope he does not unlive himself for his info.

@anoopkvpoduval 3 месяца назад

I found that missing Max door plug. It's on Simple Flying channel's logo 😊

@guangxidavidliu 3 месяца назад

Something he knew that general public don't scared him.

@benyomovod6904 3 месяца назад

Kayak allows you to exclude special types. Passengers shall pressure airlines by avoid booking the plane and avoid airlines that use it

@aycc-nbh7289 3 месяца назад

But last-minute equipment changes and cancellations could take this control out of passenger hands.

@johnsheppard314 3 месяца назад

@@aycc-nbh7289memorize what the max planes look like, and refuse to board the flight. you have that right.

@sharonshoop495 3 месяца назад

. Before you boycott you better look at all they make!!!

@Standswithafistremembers 3 месяца назад

I am seriously starting to worry about his safety.

@peterdavies1679 3 месяца назад

It’s crazy that airlines can just blatantly lie about the aircraft being used for your flight, and get away with it.

@jonpark6650 3 месяца назад

You just said that the Ed Pierson, ex-Boeing senior manager was involved with the Boeing 737 Max but did not go into any of the specifics of why it was unsafe to fly. He has gotten my interest into what he saw what was going on with the Max production and anything else about Boeing quality control.

@TheKinni80 3 месяца назад

People like Pierson are rare who took the behemoth Boeing headon. Kudos to you and I hope you achieve greater success in the initiatives you pick up. Best wishes to you.

@Usuario-vk1le 2 месяца назад

remember guys, this man was NOT suicidal

@californianorma876 3 месяца назад

Stay away from windows in tall buildings 🙏🏽

@Perich29 3 месяца назад

Stay on the lower floor on taller buildings.

@sailor67duilio27 3 месяца назад

Fly airbus planes they are super, safe,comfortable and nothing falls off. I have been flying Airbus planes for the last 20+ years all over Europe and the world.

@stephencaudle1766 3 месяца назад

They have some pretty serious hydraulic issues lately.

@SpawnoftheHydra 3 месяца назад

That's not what it says on The Aviation Herald. But please, don't go look on that website, I'd hate for you to realize all aircraft manufacturers have issues. lol

@Burzilman 3 месяца назад

I hope this gentleman wouldn't find dead in his home 😢

@TheCoIdestWater 3 месяца назад

If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going.

@johnsheppard314 3 месяца назад

¡ni yo tampoco!

@sharonshoop495 3 месяца назад

Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Make sure you keep you word.!!!!

@mrrolandlawrence 3 месяца назад

What about the stuck rudder on landing the other day on the 737 max?

@uditabhattacharya2824 3 месяца назад

DETAILS PLSS

@gordonbergslien30 3 месяца назад

This is far more concerning than the blown door plug. There have been several mishaps linked to rudder failures in earlier 737variants.

@lancemiller4647 3 месяца назад

I admire this Boeing manager -- Sad how quickly people forget things, like how Boeing killed 346 passengers for no other reason Than Greed. HOw anyone can forget / forgive that is shameful...!!!! BTW, if the Alaska flight had been at cruising altitude that flight surly would have added over 150+ passengers /crew to the list that have died flying Boeing these past 5 years!!!!

@searchanddiscover 3 месяца назад

From what I understand it’s only Alaska and United that fly Max 9 in the US right? So just avoiding those 2 would make that altogether easier.

@bd5av8r1 3 месяца назад

Southwest has them too. Ive flown on them and they are just another airplane. :)

@dr.woozie7500 3 месяца назад

@@bd5av8r1 It doesn't matter if it's "just another airplane." Boeing purposely ignored safety concerns to increase profit and the Boeing 737 MAX has its reputation ruined. For many people it's not worth the risk.

@christerry1773 3 месяца назад

No. American, southwest. And it totals up to hundreds of planes and thousands of flights every day. And you won’t avoid them forever, eventually the news will Wear off and it will inconvenience you or cost more money.

@joshuavanwagoner7039 3 месяца назад

No. Southwest does NOT have the MAX-9!

@christerry1773 3 месяца назад

@@joshuavanwagoner7039 they have Max. What’s your point

@sempertalis1230 3 месяца назад

Smart man!

@CaptBill69 3 месяца назад

Yes. I would NOT fly on the 737 Max too 😮

@55nsmooth 3 месяца назад

ROFL, some 'manager' - he couldn't figure out what airplane it was until he was on it??

@creativecatalyst777 3 месяца назад

Great channel, I've learned so much! Thanks!

@user-kv5vp6bp8g 3 месяца назад

He already have security that's why he's still alive🔆

@jrculbertson7463 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the VALUABLE LIFE SAVING TIP!! 👍

@nurrizadjatmiko21 3 месяца назад

Completely logical by that former manager of Boeing. I can kind of understand what he feels about the 737 MAX. For me, i am curious and wanted to try to get onboard the 737 MAX because i have never flown onboard the MAX. Maybe in the near future.

@the_expidition427 3 месяца назад

Forget logic. Completely rational

@RichardMigneron 3 месяца назад

Well, that solves the question for me : never flew the Max yet, won't fly it in the future either !

@aycc-nbh7289 3 месяца назад

It is among the safest of planes to fly due to the increased safety standards.

@fofopads4450 3 месяца назад

@@aycc-nbh7289 yeah I am sure the parts fished out of the thrash are top quality.

@aycc-nbh7289 3 месяца назад

@@fofopads4450Is this not uncommon among plane manufacturers?

@ramyfares9099 19 дней назад

you may end up flying on one of them

@ramyfares9099 19 дней назад

@@aycc-nbh7289 Try Fly Dubai's 737 Max, the best 737 Max you would ever fly on compared with other airlines.

@HotelGuyKarl 3 месяца назад

Shortly after the 2 horrific crashes and the grounding of the max I said I’d still fly the max any time because I believed in Boeing. Now it shows that Boeing is not what it was.

@aycc-nbh7289 3 месяца назад

Well, they are being held to higher safety standards and this may mean that their planes will be safer to fly.

@jpharaoh4893 3 месяца назад

Smart Man

@mshorton1947 3 месяца назад

Good for him!

@nordicvolkan 3 месяца назад

Smart man

@Hurpdurpdipidydoo 3 месяца назад

I don’t blame him, and r.i.p John Barnett.

@dioxideuniversal 3 месяца назад

This company needs to be nationalized.

@gordonclark7632 3 месяца назад

His decision says it all.

@douginorlando6260 3 месяца назад

Afterlife Airlines … once the doors close you can not leave

@madeinedmundston 3 месяца назад

Wow....

@captscarlet17 3 месяца назад

That says it all 😮I will never fly that plane ✈️

@cottonwood992000 3 месяца назад

Good on him!

@dennismacwilliams196 3 месяца назад

Sounds like he knows something

@AndreC240 3 месяца назад

No one should be flying on the Max.

@r25limousine 3 месяца назад

I decided long ago that I won’t fly on it

@justsaiyansteve 3 месяца назад

The Executives should fly in there own aircraft lol.

@SA-nv5tc 3 месяца назад

Smart move. All passengers should do the same!

@dinob8736 3 месяца назад

If it ain't Boeing, it ain't blowing.

@VetGamer718 3 месяца назад

Wow

@carcar78 3 месяца назад

He should know!

@geraldammons5520 3 месяца назад

I used to like flying Boeing. In the late 90's, they "bought out" MD. Then, they put the MD execs into the highest positions at (the new) Boeing. They then went back to the business model that ran MD into the ground.