So proud of Velvet- for those tht know she was in a cult- NatureBoy comes of to his followers like he some kind if saint- but he is very manipulative - and the women turned on Velvet just to be the First lady of tht cult- it's beyond sick
It's funny you say that. Did you know that our perception is built from assumptions? We don't need to go through something inorder to judge it fairly. We use common sense.
For those thats just now learning of this…. Know Velvets father spent his last dying breath trying to save his daughter. I am so happy Vel got her self back❤️
You know I just learned of Pops passing away. That is sad & still can't believe he's gone. He looked relatively healthy. And Velvet seems like she's doing okay sith his passing. But I hope she knows how much that man loved her.
@@rachelderenoncourt3881 yes, when he first started out, the group was supposed to be about living in nature growing gardens, growing their own food etc. It was supposed to be peaceful. He recruited her and other young vulnerable women. She was only 20 years old when she left for carbonation.
Yup! He fought hard to get her back. Her family went through so much trying to reach and save her but ultimately she had to make the decision to save herself and he wasn't alive to see it happen. He would be very proud of her now though and I hope his spirit visits her.
We all fall in love with an Idea,,now I'm trying to keep my bills paid cause I was gaslighted into thinking I was with someone that loved me,like not just cults people out here preying on people who want love and companionship🙏🙏
Women can't handle the truth though so you all go for men who lie to you and tell you what you want to hear. Someone who wants tohelo you will tell you the truth. Someone who wants to help themselves will tell you what you want to hear.
That guy is a psychopath. He overplayed the part getting their emotions riled up and causing them to make unrational decisions. Good people don’t do this. We know the value of balance.
@@Syriariasha In a sense. I remember one girl who left years ago when they where in South America made a video saying “I had to get that dick out my brain” so you not far off lol.
I used to watch them too. I stopped watching them and YP during the time it started becoming too negative, the drama. They veered away from knowledge and then became Jerry Springer. I remember YP would be blasting NB telling Velvet to leave. And the Momma D lady who passed away. 😳
@@tigrressa 😂 I remember back in 2018 when NB, YP and “spiritual so” were at the top of the neo spiritual bullshit community. Every single one of them was like watching a train veer off the tracks of sanity and eventually explode into flames.
This is not abnormal. It takes the typical domestic violence survivor 5-7 times to leave her abuser. The fact that she was able to escape from her abuser while in a foreign country speaks volumes of her courage.
I agree. I have heard so many times 'what don't they leave' yet most times there is no way to get out. Popelp are isoalted, money gone, no easy and fast way out or no home someplace else to go to. Women wit children who are homeless will get the chidlren taken instead of a safe place to stay in too many cases.
You mean it's not abnormal in what way? And YES, after seeing some of psycho boy's posted videos. She is blessed to have exited her and her baby from that evil situation.
I remember watching a video of them on youtube a few years ago rambling about good vibration, polytyny, mother nature etc. I was rolling my eyes while watching that video and thinking that good vibration BS won't last!
Mannnn, this is sad… glad she’s got her life back… that’s why it’s so important to have a RELATIONSHIP with God for yourself… HE’S real, not just something we imagine…
Exactly FOR YOUR SELF... He Warns Us To Work Out Our Own Salvations... Reading Scripture And Researching For Myself While Being Led And Cared For By The Holy Spirit I Learnt A LOT Of Evil Was Disguised As "God's Will," Such As Idol Worship, And Witchcraft/Magic, Necromancy ("The Ancestors" Praying To DEAD Saints And Mary), Astrology, Christmas Trees/Rituals, Fornication, Polygamy, Gossiping And Many More That Had Infiltrated In Churches... Once The God Is Christ, Then It Must Follow His Rules... Any Other god, People Do Them But Christ, That Boy Of Nature Was Being Just That. The Rules Are RIGHT There, And People Still Try To Be Not Just Their Own, But Your god if Not Pushing You To Be It For Them... Possessed.
@Edward Will no sir because I have witnessed her go back and forth to him after she so called had enough smh. Is this the same velvet who treated the other women like slaves and peasants? Or is this the velvet who does not want to be charged right along with this crazy pos? Time will tell smh
I saw a few minutes of one of this guy’s RU-vid videos years ago and wondered why anyone would take anything he said seriously. Parents and schools need to do much better at teaching children critical thinking skills.
I used to follow him years ago on the gram and he started off speaking like every other newly awakened being. But when his following increased he got dark
It's sad because those thoughts were there and here comes this guy justifying how these people feel making it make sense taking the guilt away it's like they feel safe running together
@@brandnubraids2599 that's cause he was secretly harboring a dark being, i think he got hijacked from the start and only the dark ess truly came out when he got a taste of power. I remember seeing his videos to, but whenever someone is high in the clouds like that you can tell there's something else in their energy field that isn't allowing them to ground and see logic for whatever reason. Whole slew of things can be said about him. Usually for me it's when the feeds of their commenters are going extremely fast and you can barely keep up but they seem to be following along as if that person is actually in the room with them. (Ain't talking about IGs slow comment feature waited"
I remember the sick video where her father went to battle for his daughter. I am OVERJOYED to see that she became the sword that cut this clown. Her family's pain was palpable.
@@loveyaenoughtotellyathetru7279 Definitely, all money ain't good money. My ass not rich but I'm certainly not poor. I stay in my lane and humbly great ful for everything 🙏🏾🎯💯.
@@kelzkelly8308 YOU RIGHT! cause im sure he was abusing her BEFORE she got pregnant and being held hostage is not taking away id's and stuff, its when you can not walk away and she said "i was literally" and then said because he took her id and stuff and in the end, she left without all that stuff so it was possible to leave at other times. and if she and others wanted to give all their money to somebody and have sex with everybody then thats them but the children should not have to endure that. but ppl in cults are stupid and if they happy being stupid fine...but the children should not be abused and used.
I did not grow up with a lot of biblical teaching, but my sons and my goddaughter know the word of God for themselves so that con artist like this cannot take advantage of them!
Lol bingo. I have no sympathy for these women because they knew this guy was a open "bisexual". These women placed being sexually gratified above everything else until things went sour in their relationship.
This creep con man use to be in gay adult films, some people is beyond common sense, with a name like "nature boy" no one had enough sense to do some research on this creep, did they actually thought he was a botanist? and they was going to live off the land, have peace and harmony .......
That meatball been a fraud off rip, it just took something this extreme for certain people to realize smh, he would've been with "nature" real quick treating my family especially a daughter of mine like this💯
Stop! You don’t want the women that fell for that man, inboxing you. They were damaged before they became a cult member. Stay true to yourself and a woman that is your gift, will come along.
🤣🤣🤣🤣now that's funny! It's strange but but be grateful you didn't attract a weak minded woman. Be patient. You never know what God has in store for you 🙏 ❤
I know it's easy to judge but most of them are babies that come from no structure in their home or broken homes and they are surviving looking for someone to love them. This breaks my heart.
Cassidy, you have hit the nail on its head, that's the biggest problem against us today, no home training and no discipline in the homes. Children are raising their parents instead of the parents raising them.
It's a women who wrote a book, about her experience living with this cult. hope they interview her next. Her name is Sybil Ferere and the book is "How to get out of a Cult"
@@loveyaenoughtotellyathetru7279 Well all of these members are under 25, mentally delayed and or slightly retarted and come from abusive backgrounds or have no parents at all.
@@mariahyohannes Compassion for what? They are all "grown a** adults" the day when people accept accountability maybe then things can be changed but I am sure they all blame it on daddy issues, they had it hard, like nobody else in the world has it. I don't feel sorry for adults that do stupid ish and there is no shortage of this.
So he was an abusive scam artist posing as a cult leader. *eye roll* The biggest red flag was flown when he said to her "just in case she need bail him out". He knew he was up to no good then.
@@mothyhtx What if people actually hold both the abuser and victim accountable for their actions? Just bc he said it was her choice doesn't mean they support the abuser. Do more digging on this bc velvet is also an abuser.
@@myamia1772 Just curious, do you think that prostitutes in a stable, who has other women under her, with a pimp over all of them...the pimp then orders her to slap this other woman, and because she doesn't want to get slapped she slaps that woman, is she an abuser or victim? Does circumstance make a difference between victim and abuser? #ProgressiveDiscussions
@@KamilaSage31 In that scenario, she's a victim but velvet is a real abuser. She abused those women mentally, emotionally and physically. She was not ordered to do so. It was all out of ego.
EXACTLY, EVERYONE SO QUICK TO RIDE ON US WOMAN SIDES I HAVE YET TO HEAR HE GRAB THEM IN, PUT GUNS TO THEIR HEADS. THATS WHAT THEY WANTED, CHOSE. ALOT OF THE CHICKS CAME AFTER LIKE VELVET HE WAS ALREADY ON SOCIAL MEDIA BEING A PIECE OF CRAP HEARD NOTHING, KNOW COMPLAINTS WHILE ENTERING THE HOME, BEING IN IT, DOING ALL THINGS THEY SHOULDNT LIKE PPP LOANS THEY DIDNT SAY OR TELL NOTHING BUT WHEN THEY GOT TIRE FOR WHATEVER REASON IM A VICTIM AND HE THE MONSTER. THEY WERE ALL AWARE THOSE FEMALES ARENT VICTIMS PERIOD, THEY ALL SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
He has the face of a villain. This young lady will need help beyond just running away. His other members are still under his control. They will be under his commands too.
the only hope for any of us is Jesus. this worlds coming to a end please make sure you give 100% of your heart so that He can lead and guide you also teach and protect you. Becoming born again living life to please the Lord. I love you all bro. todd
Jesus is an idol. How can Jesus save anyone when he himself couldn't saved himself from the Romans smh. Stop believing in man god. And to be quite frank Jesus is the devil in disguise.
I am so happy, happy, happy that this young woman escaped this crazy sick cult, and had the courage to tell the truth to people about the horrible things done to her, and to others, involving sick heinous torture and rape. I am so proud of you for never giving up, and for others out there like you, I pray that you never give up, too. There are people who care and who are trying to do everything to help save you.
So she's not Queen Freakalink when it's convenient-- at the most opportune moment, it's rape? Is that the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
I can not understand how these people always allow fools like these manipulate them like that and go as far as to lead them into cult practices and foolishness. Folks are just spiritually blinded and dead.
Most cult members are born into cults. It's all they know and the ones who know it's fake have no agency to get out. I'm an ex JW and it took me 12 years to get on my feet before leaving. Cults are sinister and evil and need to be abolished. Religious freedom is deadly.
I don't wanna be negative but WTF you let someone take your IDs and bank card?! I don't even let anyone know where I keep that stuff. I don't care who they are, mind control is a hell ova drug
Sounds like some Charles Manson shi.. he would take everyone’s Id, bank card, etc and put it in a box to survive off. Cuz what’s his is theirs and what’s theirs is his! Super weird
You have to look up the videos from years ago. She was extremely young when she got with this cult. He use to beat her a$$ etc and those cult members would just act like it’s another day.
Because he beat them down badly if they didn't and they often times were isolated out in another country with no help. So she did what she had to do to survive
I've kept up with this cult for years and it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. R.I.P. to Mama D (who they tried to heal with natural medicines but failed) and also to Velvet's father (who went face to face with the cult leader in defense of his daughter). Velvet was blind but now she can see.
@@loveyaenoughtotellyathetru7279 you know someone had said that there weren't going to be any penalties for those that only took out the 15,000 and 20,000 thousand dollar loans. Their only punishment was going to be that they had to pay back interest a few years down the line. But I guess we shall see indeed.
@@snowblo1 if a ppp loan has not been forgiven, it will be investigated, regardless of the size the borrower took out. Not applying for loan forgiveness makes zero sense unless that person was concerned about the extra scrutiny that came along with the loan forgiveness process . And, the forgiven ones aren't free and clear either, wholly. This is the govt. They are configuring a program and database to run ALL loans and Applications through and this loan checks for discrepancies and irregularities and cross references against documents and records. No one got away with anything - whether $1k loan - loans in the millions.
What an awful story!! Miss Velvet, yes....as you say, your child IS important, but please know that YOU too are important. You may need to change your name and move far, far away from these awful people. Miss Velvet, don't ever feel like you made a dumb mistake to fall in love for that con artist because he is a master manipulator, a psychopath and nothing more than one of Satan's minions. He knew exactly how to get you to do what he wanted and needed at the time. But obviously, YOU'RE stronger than he will ever be!! So keep up doing the right thing for yourself and your baby girl.
She's got this she knows who the one true creator is check her videos she had a purpose that she is easily getting in tune with her higher power 🔋 GOD BLESS HER PATH
Didn't she take part administering cult practice? Wouldn't that make her also just as guilty? YAS QUEEN SLAY. This is damage control, she's gonna get fucked by the long dick of the law in a little bit.
I was just going to say the same...RUTHLESS😒😒😒 I PRAY 🙏🏼 these women and men see the true light and run when they see stuff like this. You should never pay anyone to do what you have already been doing for yourself. To allow anyone to tell you when to rise, sleep, eat, how to pray is beyond me🙄😒🤨
People choose to get their ego stroked by being told they are special by these cult leaders. Jim Jones and every other abuser did this and with the dozens of prior cults, everybody has all the information they need not to get sucked into the abyss. There are a lot of cults out there waiting to eat you up. Just say no, as with any other addiction.
I was wondering the same thing, If she helped influence others to come join them too. I'm assuming her leaving and telling on him absolves her of any legal ramifications.
The fact that he's able to talk so many young people into this is a testimony of how desperate they are for spiritual direction. I don't subscribe to his teachings ( Afro/ Egyptian) but I've seen videos of the wife being made to fight the other women and I couldn't believe it. Praying for you Velvet 🙏💕
@@terreciakennedy3265 that's true. I don't follow (specifically) the Egyptian because they didn't like the twelve tribes and I am Judah. I do my own research and I know the original text weren't in Egyptian...
Velvet needs to stop. She did a lot of nasty things along with him. She refused to return with her family for years. Yes she is a victim but also partook
@@Princess-gy5kx I have been following them for years, her family went to pick her up and she disowned them. Everyone was rooting for them to wake up and leave the cult. There were multiple times in multiple countries when she had a choice to leave
I’ve been following this for years Also. I feel like it got to a point where he was mentally controlling her. Once you can get that from a person, you can do whatever and have them do whatever.
@@karliereddfanAgreed, I followed from the beginning too, so I guess, IYKYK at this point. It's been so long, they can just rewrite history and half of us wont remember, the other half wont care. He was a P.O.S. that's all that mattered and he's getting his karma. Perhaps that's what Velvet is aiming for here. Making sure that he gets brought to justice by any means necessary.
@@johnbradshaw4682 Yes thank God for his mercy today. In the past God's justified anger ,holy reaction and hatred toward sin and rebellion were revealed through such things as the flood famine, and plague, total destruction, scattering of people and burning of land. In the present God's anger is seen in how he gives wicked and defiant people over to moral filthiness, spiritual corruption and ungodly passions. Rom1:18-32. This is to say, He allows people who rebel against Him to go their own wicked and selfish way,bringing ruin,destruction and death on themselves. Ezekiel 18:4 Ephesians 2:3.
@@johnbradshaw4682 So you say. God is a loving God. If your neighbor comes into your house and hurt you, who is the blame? God is not the one that sent him to harm you. Is the evil in men that cost God's righteous judgment. Like you, you made up your mind that God is a dictator which is not the case. You have the right to choose right from wrong. You picked up the porn and masterbated, you went and got drunk, you lust for that man. You want to go to hell, that's your choice not Gods.
@@CarlosLopez-qf5tw Respectfully disagree! First, the Bible is not a Christian Book. The Bible is the History Book of the Hebrew Israelites. The Most High’s Chosen People: Exodus 3:10, 2 Chronicles 6:6, Jeremiah 31:1. Next, Salvation or Deliverance is only for the twelve tribes of the children of Israel who today are the people erroneously called Negroes, African Americans, and Afro Hispanics: Matthew 1:21, 2:6, Matthew 4:12-15, Matthew 15:24, 18:11, Matthew 24:19-31, Luke 1:68-74 (This is the Biblical definition of Salvation: Luke 1:71, That we (Israelites) should be saved (delivered, redeemed or rescued) from our ENEMIES (Psalms 83:1-8, Gentile nations are the enemies of the Israelites), and from the HAND (Control or Dominion) of all ( gentile nations) that hate us (Israelites). Acts 1:6, Revelation 2:26-27, The Kingdom or Rulership over the gentile nations will be restored back unto Israel. Luke 21:24 (precepts with Joel 3:1-8), John 1:29, John 3:1-16 (In John 3:1, Christ is speaking with Nicodemus, a fellow JU. There is no representative of the gentile other nations present. So how is it that we get to verse 16, the “WORLD” that GOD SO LOVED refers to everybody in the world? Also, Matthew 10:5, Christ commanded the twelve disciples not to go to the gentiles or other nations. But go ye rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Also, Matthew 15:24, Christ said, I am not sent BUT unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So, when was the gospel of salvation ever preached to the gentile other nations? John 3:14, comports with Numbers 21:6-10. And John 3:16 comports with Isaiah 45:17, The “World” without End is the same “World” in John 3:16, John 1:29, 17:9 and 18:20), Acts 1:6, Acts 2:1-5, 2:21-22, Acts 3:12-13, Acts 5:29-31, Acts 7:53, Acts 13:23, Of this man’s seed hath GOD according to his promise raised unto Israel a Savior, “Jesus” true Biblical name YASHA, 1 Corinthians 10:1-2, 1 Corinthians 12:2, Galatians 2:7-13, Galatians 3:1, 3:10-13. The Gentiles are the house of Israel, or any scattered Israelite Strangers/Aliens/Foreigners to the Covenants. They were called Gentiles because they were following the idolatrous beliefs and customs of the gentile other nations. There are two types of Gentiles: 1. Natural Gentile nations or any nation outside of Israel and 2. Physical Bloodline Scattered Israelite Strangers to the Covenants. Hosea 1:6-9 and Hosea 4:17, prophesied that Israel would backslide or go into idolatry. And Jeremiah 3:8, the house of Israel given a temporary bill of divorce. Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. Precept with Romans 9:7, Neither because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children GOD, but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Genesis 25:5, And Abraham gave all that he had unto Isaac. But unto the sons of the concubines (FLESH), Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son. Abraham had a total of eight sons, but Abraham only recognized the promised seed Isaac as his son. Romans 2:20, 3:1-2, 3:31, Romans 9:1-4, Romans 9:13 (precepts with Ezekiel 25:14, Ezekiel 35:5, Obadiah, Malachi 1:1-4, Hebrews 12:16-17), Romans 10:1-5, Romans 11:11-17, The “Gentiles” grafted into the wild olive tree are Israelites of the house of Israel, Ephraim, northern kingdom, Uncircumcision, hence, “Gentiles”. And if you read beyond verse 17, particularly, verses 25-26, you see that the mystery of who these Gentiles are pertains to both houses of Israel: Judah and Israel. 1 Kings 11 and 12, Because of Solomon’s sin of intermarriage, The twelve tribes of Israel were split into two separate nations and two separate kingdoms after the death of King Solomon. Both houses Reunited as prophesied in Jeremiah 16:15-16, Ezekiel 37:15-22, Hosea 1:9-11, John 10:16, Ephesians 2:11-22, Hebrews 8:8 (precept with Jeremiah 31:31). Hebrews 2:16-18, James 1:1, James 2:17, Revelation 14:12, Faith + LAW = Salvation or Deliverance, which is deliverance and dominion over the gentile nations (Revelation 2:26-27). Revelation 21:12, The New Jerusalem or Heaven is only for the twelve tribes of the children of Israel. However an elect remnant of the gentiles/other nations will be in the kingdom for the sole purpose of serving the children of Israel. Isaiah 14:1-4, Jeremiah 30:16-20, Revelation 13:9-10, As the Israelites served the gentile nations, the nations will serve in captivity to the children of Israel. Shalom
He didn’t hold anybody hostage I been watching this fool for years they all willingly did all that stuff and willingly went away with him….that woman has been passed around the whole conscious community she left and came back over 4x there all insane
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers and they will turn their ears away from the truth and be turned aside to fables. II Timothy 4:3-4
By the time this investigation finish Nature boy won't be the only one locked up and trust all the followers are scared bout there roles in this shituations This is God's doing and I'm so grateful that it's all coming out
Law enforcement don't help I was abused,called the police they came looked at me hurt,,and walked away never to come back and see if the person was pursed..
Damn!! He went to my junior high school in Willingboro New Jersey, he was very energetic, always joking and laughing, I would’ve never imagined this from him. WOW, SMH 🤦🏾♂️
@@pretendok6925 I went to school with him in Jersey in junior high school, the school was memorial junior high in Willingboro NJ. I don’t know where he’s originally from because my first time seeing him was junior high. I had a class with him.
How do people fall in these kinds of situations with these weirdos?!?!? I'm glad this young lady got away, but she still has a child by this weirdo. That's going to have consequences. Men, please take care of your daughters and try and find suitable mates for them to marry and have children with. Don't just let your daughters wander around until they get involved with some scoundrel.
Issue is women are keeping dads away from their children. Most criminals come from households led by single moms. The government is the culprit. We can address the issue on one hand, and their paying these women to perpertuate it on the other hand.
@@BonjourP Marry FIRST and then have children. Marry a decent person and stay married. Or at least stay married until children reach 18 and can move on as adults. Then there will be no such thing as the mothers keeping the fathers away from the children or the government helping to perpetuate it. I’m 61. My parents were ordinary working class people. My parents were born in the 1920s. It was unthinkable back then to have children without being married first. I’m not saying it never happened, but it wasn’t like it is today where nearly all these kids are from parents who never married. When people marry first, they have the mindset that they are choosing someone to spend a lifetime together with. Therefore, you don’t get involved with just anybody you meet walking down the street. But the young people today get involved sexually with whoever crosses their path. Then they have these babies and fall victim to the world system and the government. It starts in the home. Men are not requiring marriage before they get involved with a woman nor are they requiring marriage before someone can have an intimate relationship with their sons and daughters. Now the women are also adopting this attitude. Anything goes. When I was in elementary school, there was ONE girl in the class who was being raised by a single mother. She and her 2 brothers and her mom lived with the grandmother. Even her parents were married before separating. And there was one boy whose mother was widowed. Everyone else came from a 2 parent household. Nowadays, it’s the reverse. One or two from a married household, the rest from single parents. That is not the fault of anyone except men not being serious about marrying and raising a family. Men want sex these days and there are plenty of women dumb enough to give these guys sex without marriage. That kind of scenario is a recipe for disaster. And disaster is exactly what we have., especially in the inner cities. In the inner cities, there is already economic disadvantage. Now single parenthood is added to that. At some point there is going to be a complete meltdown in the inner cities.
Let this be a lesson to everyone that want to follow people that say they are “woke”. Only woke people take responsibility for their life, not to imprint their beliefs on others.
Omg I use to chat with this guy alot on social media. He always talked about the life style he wanted to live and he did that. I find it crazy how these young lady even went along with this. Sad it turned out that way.
Whew chile velvet has come such a long way and I’m sooo happy she mentally got herself together to leave and never return. Watching videos of her hungry and being hit on with the baby crying in the back…