Good job Sarah! You did us proud! You had that guy spinning around in circles! He didn’t know if he was coming or going! He just had to change the subject! I ain’t messing with you!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@streetracer1086 Looking at the nuance of the conversation, she brought out cold hard facts and he had no answer for what she brought to the table. He steered the conversation away from what she was talking about and took it in a different direction.
These guys say Lamar has so much work he needs to improve on...yet they alway compare him to the "greats." Then they want to rank him below the Allens and Burrows of the world....make it make sense.
There goes bobby playing national media and moving the goal posts back for lamar lol. You cant say that lamar hasnt earn mt rushmore status because he doesnt have a ring yet. I guarantee everyone here had ed and sizzle on their mt rushmore before either won their ring
I liked what he said about John Elway. Lamar is great on 3rd down, if he can just be cleaner in the red zone when it matters most we’re UP and winning multiple SBs
@@dariusewing6962 I agree.. I’m just saying Elway told him it’s QB job to handle 3rd down and be good in the RZ. It’s not always his fault but if he can find a way to end the Ravens RZ playoff turnover curse.. not even Harbaugh can stop him from winning multiple SBs. And Lamar is amazing he can figure out a way to
@@TheConfidentStutter Lamar was 67% comp percentage, 17 TDs and only 2 ints... QBs have to get it done sure. But great HC and OCs get their QBs ready at a faster rate than what Lamar has had. I.e. Purdy and Mahomes development vs any QB Roman has coached. From David Carr, Kap, Tyrod Taylor... None of them have been a great passer with him as an OC or QB coach.
@@kcjenkins2019 I agree 100% Harbaugh has no clue how to set the energy against the best coaches he’s always outclassed when it gets tough. That’s why we’ve been getting swept by Pittsburgh. Lamar is just gonna have to take over and over come. He can and he will
@kcjenkins2019 the big difference with purdy mahomes they have an offensive minded head coach, not a special team minded coach. Unlike those 2 lamar will need to learn multiple systems . Thats why the ravens need an offensive minded head coach
Hey Bobby Unless someone personally and see/communicate with them on a regular basis....you don't know if a person is racist or not. I will say he has racist views when he sided with Bill Polan on Lamar switching positions. And why are these people using Lamar as click bait when other QBs of his era are less accomplished as Lamar....yet they get a pass.
@@KwaisiFrance Mahomes has the better resume but now that he's teamed up with King Henry he's coming for the #1 spot. Harbaugh and coaches can't save Mahomes or the rest of hte league anymore. This season is the one to put the league on notice that the Chiefs dynasty is cancelled as the Ravens start their own. And in 2-3 years with no Kelce, it will be embarassing anyone ever though Mahomes was better than Lamar.
I watched live and it was great. I always enjoy the episodes but this one was great. Thank you all. As a true Ravens fan, I Thank Mark for joining for this excellent respectful dialog.
As a Colt fan and a Rabbit Raven Fanatic and a Denver John Elway , remember the Team's that couldn't get Over the Slump. We had a defense identity Ground and Pound smash mouth football AFC North style. But everyone else had dink and dunk then power it into the End Zone with the RB. Raven fans We remember the Team's Who kept Us out the Patriots and the Steelers even the Bengals. We have LJ8 now So come See Us At M&T Bank 🏦 the King of the AFC North has QB, RB, DB, WR, TE/TE, LB, 2nd-dary.. AFC North SB 🏆
I got so much material to work with I don’t know where to start. I want to start off by elaborating on what this guy said about his production team. This is what I believe most Ravens fans are tired of… Why is Lamar such a hot button topic? And why does the national media feel as though they always have to hit that hot button? When did Lamar Jackson turn into Michael Jackson? And I’m talking about the tabloid days when they disrespectfully called him Jacko… We know where it’s coming from and we know who it’s intended for…
Facts...the Truth of matter is Mark is taking up for his guy Bill Pollian who was wrong as two left shoes about Lamar being a QB so there just gonna keep hating on him and other black QBs....White media makes mega millions on shaming and talking bad about black men even if there amazing and they're winning MVPs like Lamar Jackson!!!
The Best Vault Video Episode Ever! Insightful, accurate as always, but most importantly: INFORMATIVE & ENJOYABLE, if you are a hard core Black Bird Fan within the FLOCK NATION! I AM! THANK YOU!
All these fans crying about Mark are just haters. This is what we want, guests coming in and sarah spitting hot fire 🔥. It was respectful, healthy conversation and damn did the vault set Mark straight! Lets get him back late in the season so Mark can tell us how lamar is carving up the 2024 season ❤🔥. Sarah standing on Bidness is unmatched
Guys like Mark never back down from what they say, even if they're dead wrong. When they receive pushback, they spin what they say in such a way that it looks like they're right. When cornered they change arguments and move goalposts. It's impossible to go anywhere with them in debate.
Exhibit A: "Elevate" and "develop"= semantics. In other words, to Mark they're the same. In a different argument on another day, the meanings of those words will be vastly different to him. But today, it's semantics so that he can be right.
Exhibit B: He uses examples of two QBs at the end of their careers as examples of how a young QB should be interacting with his WRs. He actually assumes that Lamar ISN'T communicating these things to his WRs. We've seen Lamar communicate this way IN GAMES. Using Peyton and Brady in every football argument is like using Hitler in every political argument. Whatever, Mark.
Exhibit C: He somehow finds a way to turn the conversation to random people on X calling him racist. Yes, that stinks Mark. But it doesn't make you right just because you bring it up a few times in the midst of a debate. In fact, it kind of makes you seem like you might be racist by doing so. You throw a rock amongst a pack of dogs, the one that gets hit yelps.
Exhibit D: "I don't put near as much value in receivers as Baltimore fans do." So where does he rank WRs in importance? Does it change based on the point he's trying to make? 😂
Exhibit E: In his tweet, he said Joe didn't dress because the offense wasn't built for him. In this interview, he changes it up and says it was because Lamar was playing so well but it was also because they changed the offense up. See what he's doing? He's making it so that you're right, but he's ALSO right. He can never be wrong. If Joe was a go, why didn't he play again? The simple answer is that they were below average with Joe and a playoff team with Lamar. Plain and simple.
Bateman has the talent to be a probowl WR. I could see it happening. He will finally have a full offseason and training camp with LJ. Along with not having OBJ in front of him. Zay is great WR but all around talent wise (if Healthy) Bateman is that "Dude". But that's my opinion.
Comparing Lamar in how he communicates with his receivers vs Peyton Manning is insane. Peyton was a coach on the field everyone knows that. Maybe the highest IQ QB ever
Mark down playing the coaching imo. He daid earlirr "you have to be dialed in on all the phases, including the coaching" but neglected the fact that Lamar has had 0 coaching to become a better QB not only in college but in the NFL as well
Hey Mark If you know the facts and details on a subject...particularly the Ravens. Then talk about as if you are an authority on Lamar Jackson and the Ravens, unless you do your homework.
@@KwaisiFrance He knows winning Super Bowls because of great running game. John Elway didn't even have a winning career record in the playoffs until he got Terrell Davis.
What are these people talking about. Who listen to them They don't have a clue what they are talking about. How do they achieve these jobs. They are clueless.
He not number 2 , defense wasn't as scared of steve young running as Lamar. Lamar , vick, cam, Randle, Steve Mcnair, then Steve young, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson. John Elway wasn't that good at running.
The question is too broad... People are mixing entertainment value and talent with talent and greatness... No one really believes Young was truly less talented than Montana. Young was loyal and waited his turn.... No smart, but who knows? If Young was 24 today, he would be 2nd to Mahomes only... And to say that Patrick is not a dual threat is refusing to give him all the cake... John Elway was a great scrambling and running QB like Josh "whatever" in Buffalo, but better overall... Rothlisberger was great too... I hated his butt cause he was good runner and wore down the mental game of defenses with his combo of skills... Jackson is high on the list but who decides who goes on it is hardly objective nor experts... Will always hate Steelers and Elway , but Jackson as a runner has no future value off the field without a ring... Cam has no value in many ways off the field, except by getting clicks with controversy. Russell Wilson won a SB because he was a runner and at times was a hybrid superstar and game manager. 2nd Blk QB to do it. But, the Best at not winning ... A whole bunch of 2nd place QBs... Cunningham was a more fun QB than McNabb but the latter had more success. Lamar is fun, but imagine how hallowed Vick would be (like AI as in 76ers) if'he... Got to a SB... As far a decent person like Brooks Robinson, Steve Young comes across almost to that level... Hardware and interpersonally, Steve Young was and is the best running QB right now in history...
Mark is not gonna burn bridges and I remember him complimenting BMore alot via Ravens from Flacco til recently with Jackson... I can not watch the whole show... But, for me, Mark was 100% right on 95% of his points. His comeback with stories about the Goat QBs left Sarah's argument in a place of: ," So, what?"... But, Mark did not grow his pecs out enough to say yeah... Ozzie failed Flacco, Dilfer and Jackson... Still, do you want champion or not? Git her done... One of the best interviews ever on the channel. I can argue... Mark played the heavy for the Vault today... Cause they know the truth? Roquan ain't Ray but it's everybody in the office and Jackson who are failing fans ... No cults here...
Schlereth was spot on. Lamar's job is to take control of the offense. He never has and we know this because Lamar's fans blame everyone but Lamar for Lamar's subpar playoff performances
I don't think Eric missed on any of first round receivers really none were busts yet Hollywood wasn't bad as people act he just dropped some passes and wasn't what ravens wanted but he is a good player, Bateman has been injured but flashed potential, and of now zay looks like on trajectory to be great. Lamar definetely elevates his receivers though, 2022 his number one was allen Robinson and had him looking great, where was he at before or after? Everybody says Lamar don't show up in playoffs and he hasn't been near good enough but why do we act like his playmakers haven't under performed in post season? I like mark Andrew's but he has completely underperformed in playoffs and he been the only weapon Lamar has consistently had.
lol 😂if he spoke truth id respect that but they ask Lamar to do things there not asking white QBs to do...coach up WRs? isn't that what coaching is for? they only ran the ball 6 times and its Lamar's fault only come on man!!! had he of said John and OC along with Lamar need to get better if they wanna win it all...No Lamar gotta be more superman and Coach while saving Coaches jobs lol make it make sense bro!!!
@@dariusewing6962 I think the Lamar hate has transcended beyond racism it’s something weirder now, they’re obsessed with him but never actually watch the games. Multiple times in this interview he toned down his arguments when Sarah put him in a blender. Most Lamar haters won’t even step up to talk about it fr like Shannon Sharpe. He just played victim and cried about the mean old Ravens fans flaming him.
