Fountaine Pajot Astrea 42. Perfect size Catamaran for a full-time live-aboard couple? Our Review.

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In this episode of Cruising Off Duty, we continue our series where we are checking out the Catamarans at the Annapolis Sailboat Show to see what we think would suit us as a full-time live-aboard catamaran as we circumnavigate the globe.
This episode we cover the Fountaine Pajot Astrea 42' Catamaran. We liked this boat a lot for a 40'. But is it big enough and have enough storage capacity to store everything we own as we travel the world? Watch to see what we think.
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@plumbum-i5n 4 года назад

My dad is buying this, im here to look into it and i am in love with it

@samvohra6992 4 года назад

So..... Did you guys bought it yet

@plumbum-i5n 4 года назад

@@samvohra6992 no rn we changed our minds and r lookin at the lagoon 450

@samvohra6992 4 года назад

@@plumbum-i5n Cool... I have been planning to buy a sailboat since the past 2 years but now m in two minds whether it's gonna be a Monohull or a Multihull First choice was a Benetau Oceanis 60 and Now it's Lagoon.. M yet not sure which will be the final choice but buying it is for sure.

@glenpeters955 5 лет назад

HUGE difference between this and the 40', it's amazing what a difference that extra two feet in length makes.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Yes! I was really surprised how much bigger it felt inside.

@zzzxxzzz4797 5 лет назад

It will also come with a hardtop if you want ! Just order it !

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Ya. I assume if you spend the $$$ they would put a hard top on any cat. Since we will probably buy a 5 yr old used cat, we will have to hope the 1st owner paid for that extra option. But it would be a huge point in its favor if a cat we are looking at has that. We hate dealing with aged sunbrella, fading and ripping with time.

@LSBSteve31 5 лет назад

FYI - for an example of how much it costs to outfit a cat check out SV Happy Together, How we built our boat episode. Randy goes over gear and what he spent for each, 2015 prices.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

OK. Thanks. I am sure it was a BOATLOAD of $$$

@sailingtribu 5 лет назад

Check on the web. You wil be able to find full price lists for any boat. There, you will be able to do your own selection of model and every addition you want on your boat.

@mcalisterc72 5 лет назад

We like this boat as well as the Saona 47

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Yes. The Saona episode just released. We liked it a lot!

@HanbalaSanaujan 5 лет назад

You could please use wider optics and, if possible, compare the technical capabilities of other models or within the family.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Wider lenses? I already have the 7mm lens on my GH5. Can't get any wider than that. We cant help that the spaces are small. This is not a tech review series on each boat or these episodes would go on for 45 minutes. Sorry to disappoint.

@realulli 5 лет назад

Nice video, as always. :-) In the intro, you say speed is secondary for you. From my PoV, I can agree with secondary, but it shouldn't be ignored completely. There may be a time when you have to move some distance in a hurry, e.g. when a hurricane bears down on the place you're anchored and you just want to move out of its way. I've seen a few videos from other cruisers that really had to hurry because their boat would do only 6 knots, while someone else with a boat doing 9-10 knots would have not much of an issue. Also, if you're going on long passages with just the two of you, shaving a few days off the passage time might save a lot of fatigue... However, I agree with you - speed is not king, if it means you can't bring the stuff you need because the boat needs to be as light as possible, etc...

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Agree that speed to get from A to B to outrun a storm in a pinch would be valuable, but everything I have seen, you can always motor sail if you really need to get that extra few knots to get somewhere quicker. Even with just 1 engine running you should be able to add a few knots speed with a fairly small hit to the fuel usage. So, Maybe a fast cat can will sail at 10 knots and a Production cat will only sail at 8 knots in the same conditions but, throw on an engine and you will also go 10 in an emergency. Even our crappy Nautitec open 40 we rented that had a shag carpet on the bottom due to lack of cleaning by the charter company would sail along at 10 knots. So I don't think there are any Cats on the market that cannot go above 6 knots.

@realulli 5 лет назад

@@Bowmans-Woods well, in theory, it should all boil down to hull speed, which is just a function of water line length. On the other hand, according to the formula, an Outremer 48 shouldn't go much above 10 knots, in practice it does (I think I saw a video where SLV hit 18 knots, also Greatcircle (Lagoon 52) seems to have hit 12 knots as well). The 45 ft cats I've been on all topped out around 9 knots, and they got around 8 with even just 12-15 knots (or so) on the beam. Adding the engines didn't change much... (on the other hand, they were all charter cats with none too clean a bottom...) I agree, there probably are no cats on the market that can't go above 6 knots (unless you count the very small stuff that you can't really live aboard). What you could also do is ask the manufacturer to put copper coat on the bottom instead of the normal anti-fouling, that should keep your speed up for longer... ;-)

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

OK. Well, I have experieced a dirty bottomed charter cat and a big beamy Cat crossing the Atlantic and neither of them had any trouble going 10+ knots regularly. Of course, if there is no wind, any cat will struggle but a performance cat will suffer a bit less, I will give you that.

@alexnikolich2303 5 лет назад

Another thing to keep in mind about speed. When we're talking about a long passage with limited provisions or an approaching hurricane, things like a clean bottom and folding props make a HUGE difference. Those two items alone can make 2-3 knots of difference. Also, cats are far more weight sensitive than mono's--this should bare into your decision making and storage strategy (think balance).

@russiaviation 5 лет назад

For me, this is my very near future catamaran too !!! This is it !!! :)))

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

It is very nice and for a 41' boat (even though it is called a 42) it uses it's space very efficiently.

@Maddie-Girl 5 лет назад

You guys are doing a great job comparing cats maybe at the end you could tell what type of engines and navigation instruments come standard also where each one is manufactured

@kevinp100 5 лет назад

Sailing S/V Slipstream and what kind of oil it takes

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Im sure with a little thing called google you can find out any detail about what engines are possible on each cat. Often you have the option of a smaller engine set-up or the larger one. It's up to each individual owner. To many options for us to go into.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

ha ha. What kind of oil it takes. ha ha. Too funny Kevin.

@thomasn3766 5 лет назад

Hi C.O.F crew, a little information about the length you might consider. If you look at "average wavelength" on the ocean you might find 12-15 ft is quite normal,( look away from larger rolling waves) and if you add that up to the boat length in ft you see that with a 38-42ft boat you will most likely experience "hobby Horsing/rocking" that will feel uncomfortable for sure. ( you just cover 3.5 waves the waterline length) means that the bows will dive into waves and rock you badly. (Bow waves will hit the bridge deck and it sounds bad)This due to the significant wavelength and you will find your self "in-between" waves at times, if you look at a boat of 44-50 ft(+++++) you avoid this "hobby horsing" action of the boat significantly, as the hull length cover several more waves ( As of you cover 4+ waves)and feel and act much more stable. This is something that makes a comfortable feeling and experience so much better as you are looking for your new home away from "terra firm"It's not so many that take this into consideration and surely have a very bad experience and can't understand why it was so not event full as they hoped for. This is just a tip and not meant as a critique in any form, just a heads-up for you before you commit to something you might regret later on. I would highly suggest if you are in the market for a CAT in the size up to say 50ft, Consider to go in the above 44-45ft so you avoid this, better to sacrifice some (nice to have) amendments when buying that can be added later on when the time comes for it.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Thanks for the Math! I totally agree the longer the boat the more comfortable it will be cutting through waves, or even being at anchor as waves pass you by. I think we are looking at a range of 45-50 as our preferred size. 50 would only be if we could find a really good deal on one that big. We probably don't need that much space, but deals do come along from time to time, so we wouldn't say no to the extra space. 😁

@deibertmichael 5 лет назад

For me low hand rails and no rails on the house not good! Lines look sloppy. Hard corners everywhere. Small area for solar panels!

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

All decent points.

@FXPL9277 4 года назад

It is a choice you have to make: straight lines are better for interior design, but one must get used not to bump around. Anyway, they could easily round the corners at least. A per the solar panels, they can go covering the dinghy and on the roof. But I hope someday we'll have solar sails...

@kellee6551 5 лет назад

Loving your journey...We are hoping to start ours in 2 years....Curious...seems I remember in an earlier session you talking to Phillip Berman on a Balance Cat....but don't remember any feedback on your walk through....seem to be a great boat for 2 to handle easily...have been seeing a 2014 - 451 for sale now.... just curious ...keep em coming...Thanks

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

The Balance we met him on was the bigger, faster much more expensive carbon fibre model. $1.6 million! Way out of our price range but we filmed it because it was there and he was willing to take us on a guided tour.

@wanmaar1 Год назад

No veo que haya lugar para 12 personas como dicen en las compañías de alquiler de barcos (Bareboat charters). Alguien sabe dónde y como son las 4 camas fuera de los 4 camarotes?

@Bowmans-Woods Год назад

Ya, no way this boat can hold 12. Unless they bring no food or clothes with them. 😆

@C_R_O_M________ 4 года назад

Please refer to headroom in future reviews. Us tall people are challenged in finding a suitable boat.

@Bowmans-Woods 4 года назад

OK. I'm 6'0" and If I have trouble walking around I would mention it. I don't think about people that are super tall. I assume that they may have to duck in some places in some boats but they would be use to that, I am guessing.

@C_R_O_M________ 4 года назад

Cruising Off Duty ducking all the time is something that your body will pay for in the long run with back, neck or knee problems. I’m 6’9” barefoot and the only cats that fit me (as far as I know - at least in their saloon area) are 44+ ft Lagoons that seem to offer the most headroom (6’9” +) . Even the FP Salina 48 has only 6’6” to 6’7” headroom in the saloon area which is not enough (and I love that boat) and that’s a big boat. Yeah, headroom is crucial for tall guys (over 6’5”). 6’9” in the saloon means a lot less down below and there’s a lot of us who’d appreciated if you gave us a few tips on that. Thanks.

@cartmanrlsusall 5 лет назад

Awesome boat,I disagree on speed .speed gets you out of the way of storms and gets you to your destination before wind changes direction.so speed is a factor to consider

@kevinp100 5 лет назад

cartmanrlsusall really? Full time cruisers have a totally different mindset when it comes to sailing near storms. Two knots of speed is not going to make a huge difference anyway

@cartmanrlsusall 5 лет назад

@@kevinp100 it will if your home depends on it.i like the condo cats but the speed of passage in a given wind speed matters.so does the amount of fuel the engine's need to maintain progress on passage

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

I agree with Kevin. We are talking maybe 2 knots of speed difference between a good production Cat and an Outremer of the same size. 2 knots isn't going to allow you to outrun a storm. Besides, you Shouldn't make passages into the path of big tropical storms anyway if you are not in a rush to be anywhere. We won't be. If we see a hurricane or big tropical storm is possible, We will leave way way before it ever gets close. We won't risk anything with our big fat "Slow" Condo-maran. Ha ha. That's the benefit of being retired. We wont have to be anywhere and we won't have to stay anywhere that is risky.

@Paul_C 4 года назад

Did you see the Elba, I saw it recently in France. That said, probably you might have seen it in 2019. Didn't see the date when this was published 🙄

@Bowmans-Woods 4 года назад

This video is older

@MalloyUnfiltered 5 лет назад

I'm thinking the 47 will check all the boxes.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

You are very right. The 47' is our favourite FP. Not maybe our favourite boat overall but definitely a contender if we find one at a good price on the used market when we are ready.

@computerbob06 5 лет назад

Difference between 390k dollars and 640k dollars, no way does added gen sets, water makers and so on, cost 250k! Maybe US buyers are getting screwed over their European counterparts!

@Drunken.Sailor 5 лет назад

The 390k price is for a charter management program. Nobody is getting screwed over.

@MA-oo7fw 5 лет назад

@@Drunken.Sailor elaborate more, wtf is a charter management program, and no, google is not my friend.

@Drunken.Sailor 5 лет назад

@@MA-oo7fw I'm sorry that Google is not your friend :-) You can have a look at this link. It explains it pretty well. catamaranguru.com/charter-management-programs/premium-files/yacht-charter-management-programs-explained

@Drunken.Sailor 5 лет назад

@@MA-oo7fw and this link: catamaranguru.com/ownership/charter-mangement-tips/pros-cons-of-yacht-charter-management-programs

@billhunt2071 5 лет назад

You guys need to check out the new lagoon 77, wow I am in love ,I’m saving my penny’s to get that one when I retire.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

haha. 77'. Now I know you are pulling my leg.

@billhunt2071 5 лет назад

Cruising Off Duty no I am not pulling your leg this ship is big, 2,964.000£ base. Check out on you tube.

@FXPL9277 4 года назад

Well, it is beautiful, luxurious and certainly comfortable. But would you really like to retire with crew living with you? Its a very large cat, with triple mooring and lots of stuff to break. Lagoon has better options for that purpose.

@ancap2 3 года назад

🤦‍♂️

@gustavomonteiro2793 5 лет назад

Hi, thank you for your hard work. I noticed the helm is a little bit far from the winches. Can you share your opinion on that? Thanks again.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Yes. I noticed that. The same layout is on the 47'. I dont think it makes a huge difference. It allows people to have room to work on the winches without being right in the personal space of the helmsman and they can pass through from the Back cockput are to the deck easily. If you were single handing you would just put the autopilot on while you get the winches ready to tack. Then tell the autopilot to tack while you work the winches. You would only be a step or 2 from the wheel if you needed to take over from the autopilot quickly. So it's different, but not a bad thing. Extra space for the helmsman in most cases.

@gustavomonteiro2793 5 лет назад

Yes, I was thinking about single handing. But yes, you can use the autopilot. thanks again for your reviews.

4 года назад

nice cat! are the hatches made to be stepped on?

@Bowmans-Woods 4 года назад

Yes. They can be stepped on just like any other hatch you see on any other boat. Then do have a walkway outside of them, so you wont NEED to step on them. Also less likely to stub your toe this way.

@vadimcaraivan6053 5 лет назад

Will you do an review for Xquisite x5 again?))

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Sort of. They brought an old model to the show. The one we did last year was a newer model with updated features. Doing a walkthrough on this older one would be step back. But, we do go out for test sail on this older X5 to see how it performs.

@aponoypi 5 лет назад

How are the quality of FP compared with semi custom?

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

To be honest. This Annapolis show really made it clear to us that we are going to go with a "Boutique", semi-custom builder, no matter what. There is just such a big quality difference. The semi-custom builder value holds up over time too.

@roblugo8739 5 лет назад

How does this compare in size and weight to the Lagoon 42?

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Weight I would have to defer to Google to give you that number. Size ..... They seemed about the same. I always thought Lagoons were the biggest and beamiest of the big 3 for their size but I have to say, the FP 42 and 47 (which are new designs) really use their space well and seemed quite large inside. We were impressed.

@Richierich2025 4 года назад

Be nice if there was prices

@Bowmans-Woods 4 года назад

Price varies a lot depending on the package and additions you put on. The base price of any of the new mass productions boats is not REAL. Way way too low. You need a lot more stuff added on for it to be considered a full live aboard. What you chose to put on can vary widely so prices would be very subjective to each buyer.

@zed9zed 5 лет назад

Background "music" is a bit odd. Mostly it just sounds like a click, clack, click, clack the whole time. Otherwise, nice and informative video.

@Bowmans-Woods 4 года назад

Thanks. It's been a while since I made that video so not sure what music. But no matter what, some people will dislike any music. All good.

@sillyoldbastard3280 5 лет назад

Speed is also a safety feature allowing you to get away/around weather events

@kevinp100 5 лет назад

silly oldbastard full time cruisers do not have to worry about running from storms as they tend to plan their travels during ideal wind conditions

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Have to agree with Kevin. We won't be in a rush so we won't be doing any passages if the weather is threatening big scary storms. People in a rush take those types of risks and often suffer the consequences. Besides, No matter what Cat you have you are not going to outrun a 50+ knot wind storm bearing down on you. No Cat is that fast. If I ever get caught in a nasty squall like that I will throw the sea parachute out the front and batten down the hatches and ride it out. I will be glad my big fat cat is so heavy then. :-)

@sillyoldbastard3280 5 лет назад

@@Bowmans-Woods I like something that has reasonable sail performance as I have raced all my life. I am looking at an older Catana when I get a little more money saved. I think they are the best compromise for sail v performance. Just working on the passive income bit without selling the house. Rent will only cover outgoings.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

You know what is funny. The production cats get a bad rap from the performance builders so that they can justify the premium they are asking their customer to pay, but Lagoons and other production cats have actually won ARC rally's and other long passage races. People selling Outremers and Catanas will tell you how fast their cats are but that is only really true when they are completely empty and high in the water. You load a Cat like that down with tons of water, fuel, crew and everything a crew needs to live with for super long passages and those slim hulled cats get really low in the water and then they don't sail that well at all. Often slower than a beamy production cat that is built to hold a ton of stuff. Just sayin. 😜

@sillyoldbastard3280 5 лет назад

@@Bowmans-Woods I agree, you don't want to load up performance cats although I wouldn't put Outremer and Catana in the same class. The Outremer is much more performance orientated. It is in the light winds that the heavier cats suffer... so much more 'motorsailing' and if you are wanting to cover reasonable distances it becomes monotonous and expensive. But you are correct loaded weight is a big issue

@inezneal7258 5 лет назад

Are there any catamarans with soaking tubs?

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Yes. I can't recall which of the Cats we did a review of had a tub in it? Janice was all excited to see it. Was it the Antares? Anway, one of the recent reviews the master cabin head had a tub. Granted it is not a huge tub but if you are the type of person who wants to sit in hot water, it was set up for it.

@inezneal7258 5 лет назад

@@Bowmans-Woods sounds amazing..

@jmseas2 5 лет назад

I believe that was the St. Francis 50 with the tub.

@alexnikolich2303 5 лет назад

Soaking tub on a sailboat?? LOL! Sorry, but I had to chuckle. Some cruising experience will quickly dispel the value in one unless you plan to sit in a marina with unlimited fresh water at your disposal. In all seriousness, if a soaking tub is a necessity on your live-aboard, consider a coastal condo and elect to charter on occasion. Of course, if money is no object, ignore me and go find it. Alternatively, if your boat doesn't have one, you can always find a resort near a marina/anchorage to ditch your sea legs for a few days.

@FXPL9277 4 года назад

Is that a real question or plane irony?

@allynonderdonk7577 5 лет назад

I think this was a nice boat. The space would be just fine for my family, but the price is still too high for me unless I sold my house or something. I think a stripped version would be fine, you can make a water maker for $1500 to $2000. Ac units around $8k(qty 5 16k-btus might only need 3 or 4) would cool a boat this size Victron power mamagement with start assist circuitry and various controllers and bits $5k, Carbon Foam battery bank(qty4-12V G31) $2100, Wiring and hoses $1k. Solar $3k. Wind Generator $700. Generator options vary, but it would likely need at least a 5kw($5500) for the AC units running with start boost from the batteries. So tricked out you are looking at 22k plus the generator cost for a do it yourself full cruising upgrade. Maybe when the time comes the owners of these will be tired of resealing windows every five minutes. I als worry about big windows like these in really heavy seas and heat management. You get one really killer storm and how many windows are going to blow out on you???? Plus without the overhang like on the Lagoons have over the front windows this thing has got to be a greenhouse. Hence the air conditioners going full blast.

@sillyoldbastard3280 5 лет назад

Triple that figure and you might be close.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Ya. I think 22K is way too low. But you seem like you are talking about doing all the work and installation yourself. So you could save some money that way, but I have no inclination to try and do all that myself. I'd just screw it up. Better to pay a professional who will do it right. Peace of mind. As long as I know how to fix thing and carry spare parts do some minor repairs myself, I will be happy.

@allynonderdonk7577 5 лет назад

@@Bowmans-Woods Well I can fix and design quite a bit. From rebuilding engines, troubleshooting circuit boards, multimedia systems, cabling, etc, I can do quite a lot. I made my own Humvee out of a pile of parts, built an airplane, and built my own house with the help of another guy. I know where to get good stuff cheap, and how to make fabulous "glass cockpit" systems out of verrry affordable things. Some might call me a jack of all trades, but I really can excel at systems integration tasks. Did I mention my servers and custom built computer systems for automation tasks??? If you need some plug in systems just ask when the time comes, I can help you with some ideas or build it out. Oh it was 22k plus the generator...and they might come with AC already so minus some maybe.

@baamonster2 5 лет назад

I too am very smart.

@vzheka1981 5 лет назад

saona 47 is the best

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

I think it will be the sweet spot in size for a liveaboard couple. That will be next video.

@sailingtribu 5 лет назад

Not a fan of Fountain Pajot boats., but great video anyway

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Thanks. Just curious, why you aren't a fan of FP? Quality issues or just not layout or styling choice?

@maldwindrummond6158 5 лет назад

I have also heard a lot of negative things about FP quality. Fairing doesn’t look terribly good to me, also, I don’t like their non skid design, reminds me of a cheap bow rider. That said, I do like the layout of this boat for its size. I prefer two sinks in the master head, although I tend to use the guest head when my wife is on board. Another important feature for me is enough space for towel bars in the head. On the quality issue, it might become more apparent if you go on some older models. Best, Maldwin

@freduk5342 5 лет назад

Apparently, FP has invested to up their quality for this new generation, a proper survey might help here though

@sailingtribu 5 лет назад

@@Bowmans-WoodsDon't get me wrong, I think FP, Lagoon, Leopard are great production boats. Just in terms of aesthetic I just don't like FP. If you compare their Saba 50 with the new Lagoon 50 or Leopard 50, I think those two are more good looking in terms of finishes and space. I have not sailed on any of the 2018 models.

@Bowmans-Woods 5 лет назад

Thanks Maldwin for your input. I have heard some not so pleasing reports on FP quality too. But you often hear that about all the big production cats. You are not sure who to believe. Fans of each bash the other cats quality.