I have a weak painful wrist due to several past injuries that I didn't take the time to heal because I felt I was to busy at the time. Crooked bones have wore out some joints. Retired now, I live in a lot of pain and can't even open a car door or a beer with it. It's useless. My hand surgeon is running out of options and is suggesting this, so I'm researching. Thank you so much for this!
You'll lose some range of motion for sure but dang finally being without pain is an entire mood changer. I didn't realize how much it discouraged me from just doing activities. I think you'll be very happy with the results after your surgery
absolutely! i am pain free and doing everything i ever did before. In all honesty, 13 months post surgery I forget that my wrist is fused until i'm in the gym but even then it's only reminding me when i'm doing chest workouts. You will adapt JUST fine
Thanks for the video regarding post surgical repair to your wrist. I'm getting surgery 6-6-23 and was very concerned about limitations in mobility and this has been most encouraging! Thank you!
Thanks for the video and information. I have surgery in a month. I have the same beginning as you. When can you shift gears in a car? How long were you in the hospital after the operation? I have to enter the hospital the day before the operation, 23/07/2024, the operation will be on 24/07/2024.
Thanks for the video. I’m based in the uk so I’m in the process of finding out what options I have with the NHS ( this is the free service we get in the uk). If they don’t offer this then I will probably have to pay for private surgery else where. STT Arthritis is my diagnosis. I surf most days so very insightful to see what range of movement you have to see if it will effect my pop ups on the surfboard as well as HIIT and body weight workouts. All the best
Ah you'll adjust just fine! Your fingers will be able to extend well enough you can get a good stance on your hands or obviously place a fist on the board. There's been a couple moments where it was kind of discouraging but I'm all good and trust you'll be just fine as well. Won't even think about it after youve spent some weeks on your board. I think the benefits of living without pain will far outweigh the lack of mobility after the surgery and you'll be right back to surfing
@@77joshua happy days. Thank you for the reply. That’s good to hear. The steroid injection didn’t even do anything so I definitely think surgery is the only option now, just waiting to an appointment with the surgeon. Most of my research on RU-vid seems to be American themed so need to find out what is ok offer to me here in the uk. Having an active 18mnt little girl can also be a challenge when I have to pick her up with my forearm haha. Thanks again
Can you send me links or describe the rehab you did? just had mine done and have nearly zero range of of motion up or down. Cast came off today after 6 weeks
My partial wrist fusion destroyed my life. The pain hasn’t stopped for 5 years after 4 surgeries, some days I can’t use it at all. I’m glad it went well for you.
@@adamcunnew3741It’s been 6 years and the pain never stops. I’ve had 6 surgeons offer opinions, some have tried to fix it but none can figure out what’s wrong. I get by but I’ll never be able to do a lot of things again (golf, tennis. circuit training)
So glad to hear this perspective. You said you were in the military, may I ask what branch and job? And did they mention anything about possibly forcing you to medically retire due to “fit for duty” restrictions before going through with the surgery?
Appreciate you doing this video. I play golf so wondering if that’s still possible after this surgery. What is your post op wrist strength? Are you able to improve grip strength through exercise?
Thanks for the video series on this repair. Glad to hear you’ve adapted so well. Was wondering if it’s possible to shoot or dribble a basketball given the range-of-motion limitations?
Hey there. Thank you and yep still able to dribble. I shot some hoops last month. I'm not a basketball player but we were shooting around and I didn't have any problems dribbling or shooting. I noticed the difference in shooting. It wasn't overly drastic but I figured it out and trust you will too no problem
Thanks for the vid going to have my done in a couple months good to see you don’t have any pain. I broke my wrist in my 20 and now I am 58 and it been sore for over 3 years I was worried about the pain as I would be disappointed if i have the surgery and lose my movement and still be in pain. I had shoulder surgery a couple of years ago and I am very disappointed with the results, different surgeon for my hand one of the best in Australia. How much physical therapy did you have. Thanks Mark
Sorry for the results with your shoulder. But for your wrist I would imagine you'll have the same good results as I have had. No pain whatsoever. I have adapted to doing everything very easily. The first couple weeks was a little strange with mobility restriction but I adapted quickly and dont even think about it anymore. I didnt do much physical therapy to be honest. I would flex or move my hand around a bit on my own but didnt need any professional physical therapist. I believe you'll adapt just fine like I did. Good luck and i trust you'll be happy to be living without any pain in your wrist
Thanks for sharing this! Super helpful to hear about your experience. I’m having to go thru a mid-carpal fusion myself and am concern with range of motion post-op. Did you have to go thru a lot of physical therapy to get to where you are in this video?
Actually, I never used a physical therapist. I did my own stretches. Wasn't anything intense, just getting the tendons and ligaments back to stretching and mobile due to being in a cast for 8 weeks...got a little stiff. Don't get me wrong, the fusion is obviously going to limit your range of motion. But when the cast first comes off, your tendons and ligaments are gonna be a little stubborn and you'll probably feel it. My grip strength was only about 70% of what it used to be for about 4 weeks but I gained full grip strength at about week 5 or 6. For me....I just did what made sense to me that any physical therapist would have done anyways. Some stretches to get the tendons and ligaments back to normal...no crazy unique technique...just some basic flex, extend, medial and lateral movements. And working out my regular workout routine got my strength back. After some time of your basic daily routine you will get your strength back as well. Good luck with your recovery!!
Uff I happy for you. I am going to have this surgery, I have searched through many means and the doctors tell me that it is the surgery that is best for me. I practiced jiu jitsu and training for this sport, such as gym, falls, fist bumps and different techniques that flex the wrist, in fact my injury came from a technique called "mata leon" in which I took my knee out of position scaphoid and tore the ligaments of the scaphoid and lunate bones. Do you think that after recovering from this surgery, the wrist can receive slight impacts from training and routine practice? ...
Absolutely. I can punch and put impact on my wrist. So you will be able to get right back to it. Wow, they have to fuse your wrist for the the ligaments torn? Sounds like it was painful
Thank you for the video. Can you explain the push ups a bit more. I am concerned that it will hamper my down dog pose in yoga. However right now I am in pain and don’t on my knuckles or with outstretched fingers and its not that great. Also do you have or did you ever have numbness in your fingers. Thank you in advance.😊
Hey there, well, my fingers have been able to stretch to where I can be in a pushup position. It seemed odd at first but the fingers just gained flexibility. I think youll be able to still do downward dog with about 2-3 weeks of working on it. I have no pain in the wrist at all! So I have no problem at all just having flexible fingers. Even tho the palm doesnt touch the floor. It's a slight moderation but you'll be able to accomplish downward dog. The greatest relief is NO pain at all
Hey man thanks for the video very helpful im happy youre doing well i was wondering if you think you could box cause im in the same place scaphoid non union and might do a 4CF already done surgery with screw and bone graft but didnt go well and i do boxing so thats why i ask...
Hey man you'll do just fine boxing. If anything your wrist is going to be even more stable. I will say the first couple months when I was doing dumbbell curls I could feel a slight sharp pain in my wrist from the torque but It's all good now and doesn't hurt. But oh yea I have full confidence you'll be good. I'd go boxing or do some mma with how my wrist is now
Hi Josh, I had a similar wrist surgery 7 weeks ago. It involved taking out to wrist bones and putting in 2 screws. How long did it take you to get over the surgical pain? Again, it’s only been 7 weeks for me and I am now in a removable cast. There is no bone-on-bone pain. But it smarts when I move my wrist because of the surgery. At the last x-ray they said the bone needed to finish hardening around the screws. They said it takes about 3 months for that to happen, but that it’s already healing nicely.
Hi there, my pain resided quickly after the surgery. I wouldn't say I had pain after the cast came off other than just some discomfort of getting flexibility (at least as much as I could with the wrist fused). There was a couple times when working out that I felt a small pinch but that quickly faded within a couple weeks. I'm living pain free and don't have any pain to speak of. Hope your recovery goes well!
Oh dang I haven't tried golf! I'm curious how you adapt. Maybe after you get your cast off and get back to golfing make a video so people can know how that activity is affected by a four corner fusion. There's hardly ANY videos or testimonies out on the internet and I'm sure you can help people know how it will affect the golfing sport. Or leave a comment. I'd imagine people like us with this surgery are looking through these comments. Are you still in a cast?
Oh I can see that for a full fusion. I guess to adapt to a full fusion and the tendons and ligaments to adapt to being stationary? Not too sure about a full fusion but also with the hardware that theyre going to install it might take the bones a bit longer to accept and grow around the screws and metal plates inserted. Usually a broken bone is 6 weeks to heal but with my a 4 corner fusion its 8-10 weeks. Probably just the pattern of hardware/metal installed for your body to heal around those pieces
I rode my mountain bike a couple weeks ago! I didn't have any problems. I could tell a difference but I adapted quickly. I believe you'll notice it after your surgery and after getting the cast off but i've adapted to everything and trust you will too. I even rode dirt bikes a couple weeks ago in very hilly terrain and didn't even think about my wrist. That is about 2 months post surgery but you'll have no problems adapting. The first month or two will be odd to you but easily adapted to after those first couple months
Hey brother. Haven't shot with a revolver but have shot glock and sig with no problems! There's the SLIGHTEST restricted movement with Radial Deviation (trying to flex thumb side of hand to forearm) but it's very minimal and never affected me when shooting pistols
@@77joshua thank you bro glad you did well I have to go through this next month and you Encourages me as well I don't care about recovery or anything The only thing im worried about is shoot and ride afterwards but now I'm ok after u runs the trigger no issues Thx again bro God bless be have the good courage 🙏
nope no reduction in grip strength. I feel like I have 100 percent grip strength returned. No problems picking up things or holding myself up for pullups or anything
@@johnstewart5754 How long has it been since your surgery? Sorry just seen your message. Im not a content creator and don't check this often. Did they pin the scaphoid or remove it and do the fusion?
@@77joshua it’s been 3 months since op but I can feel the proximal scaphoid segment moving even through there is a screw in it and I’m gutted because it won’t unite. Considering my options now because I’m in soo much discomfort. 4cf is very tempting after being in discomfort and soo much pain but I’m only 23 so it’s a big commitment . 4cf appears superior to prc because the lunate remains in with the radius slowing arthritis.
@@johnstewart5754 yea I didnt like that option either with the PRC. It's not natural curvature. I asked my surgeon about that and the rapid degeneration of cartilage due to the capitate and that sharp angle now sitting in the fossa. He told me that yes degeneration/arthritis happens and visible via x-ray but it does not present in pain to the patient and is very tolerable. BUUTTT i wasn't wanting to risk that. And ive only seen one or two videos of other people with a PRC maybe a year or two after their surgery. So how long is it good for? 3 or 5 years before the arthritis is obviously noticeable and back to pain? Not long enough for me haha. But yea if you decide for the 4cr I REALLY trust you'll enjoy not being in pain and adapt to everything without even thinking about it. You think about every movement now so...completely up to you but if you decide to do it. I really really really do believe you will be happy with the results
Hey man 32 year old here. I had a fracture in my distal radius. Did you look into osteochondrial allografts? Im trying to really push my doctors to do resurfacing of my joint. I also heard that even partial fusion leads to full fusion eventually
I looked into it a little but wasn't quite applicable to a scaphoid non-union that I had. But heck if you're willing to give it a shot you might be that ground breaking patient. I'm curious...Are you having degeneration there at the radius joint? How long ago was your fracture?
@@77joshuayea i have mild/moderate osteoarthritis. The idea is that resurfacing will stop oa from getting worse. There is also a doctor in maryland that does vascularized bone grafts but its lengthy
0:10 Hey man thanks for your video. Im currently sitting in the ward post op just had a 4cf im worrjed about recovering time as im a bricklayer. Also i have allot of pain now did use cold press?
Oh dang, that was 4 days ago. How are you feeling now? I didn't use a cold compress cuz I was obviously in a cast so i'm not sure how to get a cold contact there. But I was prescribed 2 weeks of pain pills. I took those daily until I ran out. I didn't experience any pain after those 2 weeks were up. So I hope they give you a prescription during those first few weeks. But a bricklayer? oh no problem. You'll have no problems at all. I updated two floors in two separate houses in July (I grew up in construction). Actually, as soon as I got my cast off i was back to working out and doing everything per usual. You'll be just fine I promise!
2:03 Wow I've watched all your videos you are basically telling my story I broke my scaphoid 17 years ago in goal but didn't get it checked out, left it until mild arthritis but I can't keep leav 0:10 ing it so I'm currently 6 days post op, I ment ice on your fingers as mine are bruised and sore but they have prescribed me pain meds but constipated with them lol So you think I'll be back to work in 3 months with physio? I had screws not the circle plate what did you have? 0:10
@@adamcunnew3741 oh dang. yea very similar story man. Yea now that I think about it I did have swelling in my fingers for a week i think? I never iced them. It just eventually went down. It sounds like youve had more swelling and bruising than I did. I remember they gave me something else for the constipation too haha.. Oh yea absolutely. To be honest, I didn't even go to physical therapy. I had to fly out of country and had my cast cut off that morning, then was on the plane the next morning. Immediately went back to working out. The first couple weeks it seemed like there was a ever so slightest pinching feeling but went away very soon. The range of motion of my wrist has not changed hardly AT ALL since i got the cast off. Maybe 5degrees improvement. But the limitation of extending the hand up due to the fusion just is what it is. The unfortunate part of a scaphoid non-union. But yes absolutely you'll be back to work in no time. With my experience of the surgery....if I was still working construction....I still would have been back to work immediately after the cast came off. I actually moved states on the 6th week of having the cast on. I literally lifted and moved everything with the cast on without any issues or complications haha.
Oh also....just so you're aware...your grip strength will be diminished for about 4 weeks. That's how it was for me. Maybe about 70% for those first 4 weeks but back to full grip strength around week 5 or 6. Getting back to work might be a little strange getting used to at first but you'll be fully capable and won't even think about your wrist after about month 2 or 3 of your cast being off. I know how important your hands are in a trade skill like brick laying but I have full confidence you're going to be just fine when the cast comes off and you'll adapt very, very quickly
Thank you so much for positive feedback man. He said to me as wel that it may not last the rest of my life and potentially have to have a full fusion yeara down the line. Sounds like you had a great recovery. My range of motion wasn't great before surgery so if I get that back then great
Heyy man ! I have the same problem, fractured my scaphoid 10 years ago, had a bone graft 5 years ago but non union. Now I have some discomfort and moderate pain for pushing exercises but fine with pulling. Some mild pain when at rest but nothing unbearable for now. I wonder if I should get the surgery to fuse it or wait until it becomes really disabling or unbearable for everyday tasks. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I hear ya man. I fractured mine about 15 years ago. The surgeon told me the window for that injury to become unbearable for people is 12-15 years. There's a point where it just became a dull aching pain at ALL times and it even woke me up in the middle of the night because it was so bad. Definitely was not working out with it hurting that bad. That happens because arthritis finally sets in. BUT he told me the more time that people put it off, the more likely arthritis will spread from the scaphoid over to the other joints/bones in the wrist. With the moderate pain you have with pushing exercises it sounds like youre in that window of time that would be good to get the surgery before arthritis spreads to the other areas in the wrist. Maybe get it checked out, a good ortho surgeon will be able to see arthritis in the x-ray and be able to tell you if you can put it off for a couple more years or now is a good time. You're pretty close to wanting to get the surgery brother.
oh absolutely. you'll be just fine. Heck your fused wrist might make a harder strike. Im sure the doctor will tell you the same thing but make sure you ease into it for a few months so your tendons and ligaments get used to that impact after being in a cast for 8 or 10 weeks.
Any special exercises did u do ?I had it done 3 months ago and still have no strength in my holding hand thanks for the reply and also still experiencing alittle pain
hmmm. How old are you? when I first got the cast off i was probably about 70% of my original grip strength. Maybe 2-3 months later I had full strength again if I remember correctly. They did a four corner fusion or a full wrist fusion for you? @@tomh1112
I’m 55 and had the 4 corner fusion done.I had 6 visits of physical therapy.My biggest fear is having to go ta a crossbow.The pain is around my pinky finger which is wierd did u have any pain in that area?
Mmm. I guess i could say i had "some" discomfort. Nothing that caused pain that stopped me from shooting my bow. I could tell my tendons and ligaments were basically getting used to being able to move again after being in the cast for 8 weeks. I'm not trying to say you're old Tom! But im crossing my fingers hoping the recovery is just a tad bit slower than it was for me. I'm about half your age so I hope you get to that place again you can shoot and gain your strength back again@@tomh1112
