Four Lollar P90 Pickups For The PRS McCarty Soapbar - Mick’s Vlog: That Pedal Show

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I want to get this neck pickup a little lighter and more vintage sounding, so let’s try these four P90s…
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Welcome to the vlog. This is the second part of a pickup swap in my 2002 PRS McCarty Soapbar.
I compare four Lollar P90s in the neck position and discuss my thoughts so far, not least the problems of testing in this way. Ahem.
The first part is here, and is worth watching to add some context to what’s happening in this episode: • New Pickups For PRS Mc...
Questions arising…
Q. This was about neck pickups, why did you spend so much time on the bridge?
A. To compare and contrast. The relationship between neck and bridge is fundamentally important.
Q. Why Lollars and not //insert pickup brand here//?
A. Answered at 1:28
Q. What is the signal path with the Tone King Imperial?
A. Guitar into Amp. On the lead channel. I really like this!
Q. What is the signal path in the loud bit with the Boogie power amp?
A. There’s a diagram at 16:59. I really, really, really, really like this.
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro: 00:00
- New Lollar pickups: 01:28
- Les Paul and PRS playing: 02:57
- Thoughts on the PRS with the standard Lollars: 05:40
- Pickup change process: 07:15
- The four-pickup comparison: 08:02
- Difference between a staple and normal P90: 12:04
- Problems with this test: 13:16
- Aye aye, new amp?: 15:33
- And a crazy person’s pedalboard: 16:45
- Staple P90, loud: 17:38
- ’50s wind P90, loud: 21:15
- Final thoughts, Erm, so far: 24:10
Guitars in this episode:
• 2002 PRS McCarty Soapbar
• Gibson Custom True Historic ’57 Les Paul Goldtop, Murphy Aged
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• Mesa 50:50 Stereo Power amp driving 2 x 1x12 cabs with WGS12L speakers
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@nicholashoell1295 3 года назад

Mick, start the spinoff: That Pickup Show

@telsutton 3 года назад

Winner!

@kosmicwizard 3 года назад

"All P90s all the time!" Haha

@Davimre 3 года назад

As someone who spent months swapping pickups in my tele, I can’t stress enough how tedious this would be!

@alessandrodecarli2462 3 года назад

AWESOME!!!!

@mr501mc Год назад

Brilliant

@ChrisBuckGuitar 3 года назад

See, that's how a Les Paul is meant to sound! Clarity, cut and definition. Booootiful!

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Cheers gweeezer! It’s such a great geetar!

@Sissiosissio1979 3 года назад

Underwound the best in this lot of P90s both for clean and overdrive IMO...

@NickGranville 3 года назад

Underwound followed closely by the 50’s wind for me. Both had the sparkle the original pickup was missing and weren’t as flabby. Love p90’s and love Jason’s pickups. Thank for taking the time to do this comparison, I know it must have taken a long time to make this.

@stevenbeechey 3 года назад

Big fan of the underwound.

@NickGranville 3 года назад

GCKelloch I’d rather trust my ear than your theory. Thanks

@jz0h4d 3 года назад

Very few guitar players are electrical engineers, I was and science doesn’t lie. However the sound is what is important.

@NickGranville 3 года назад

jz0h4d exactly!

@rjroth4869 3 года назад

Those were my two favorites as well in that order.

@SilasRNold 3 года назад

I knew Mick would prefer the 50s wind, but I thought the underwound was the most balanced with the bridge and felt like they should go together compared to the 50s

@SparkyGoldsmith Год назад

Same. I've listened to a lot of P90 sound samples and staples really caught my attention in the past but I really gravitated towards the underwound overall in this guitar. I felt the staple had too much going on, almost muddy but not quite. The underwound had a clarity to it I like and like you said it mated well with the bridge.

@indytrucks2003 3 года назад

Underwound is the clear winner here for me. Sounded perfect in that guitar matched with that bridge pickup.

@berryster 3 года назад

Totally agree

@samuelxavier2473 3 года назад

Yep.

@averyamadeusjacobson2650 3 года назад

Bottom end sounded muffled and not enough top end for me.

@bartvschuylenburg 3 года назад

Yes, I liked the dynamic response of the underwound the most. The staple, sounded stratty (yes even before you explained it I already mentioned that)

@birdwoodcbgs71 3 года назад

Yes that was lovely

@tpdorsey 3 года назад

Agree with a lot of others here that the underwound clearly had a great harmony/synergy with the bridge p90, but there was nothing splashy about it. Just sounded complementary and lovely.

@MattXScott 3 года назад

Thank you very much for being an overthinking guitar nerd. That Pedal Show always makes me feel like I'm not alone in the world.

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

You are not alone!

@goswo Год назад

Out of 6 billion’ish you two are still fairly alone 🤓

@matthewscotti8077 9 месяцев назад

Back in the day, we used to handle the muddy neck pickup thing by using the bridge pup for rhythm and the neck for lead .

@johnhemstreet6775 3 года назад

I totally agree. The under wound sounded best to me. At one point I set my iPad down and wasn’t even looking at it. He was testing them again and I heard them, and when I picked up my iPad and looked I was right.. they just really stood out to me.

@camhaines5482 3 года назад

Thanks for your hard work Mick, these Vlogs are really fun. As a side note, I do like the side conversations you have when you are undertaking the soldering and work on the guitar. I guess its because I have four young kids and an adult guitar conversation is gold to me!

@jr0706 3 года назад

I like the underwound. There’s a nice sparkle and clarity.

@edgeofeternity101 3 года назад

I liked the underwound, and then the staple in first part. The Mesa sounds incredible, Nugent would proud of you.

@DrKevGuitar 3 года назад

The second I heard the 50s wind, I loved it. each time I went back and listened again, I loved it more. And that's a great soldering station!

@grantdyble3472 3 года назад

Preferred the underwound. All were an improvement over the original.

@cawfeedawg 3 года назад

The underwound has a glorious sweet tone.

@mattflickinger8151 3 года назад

Knowing Mick, I could hear the 50’s to his ear almost immediately. I liked the Staple, but you could tell it was hotter

@hkguitar1984 3 года назад

Agreed. An underw-ound Staple would get him closer to what a Stratocaster Neck pickup sounds like. I'm currently in the process of having Seymour Duncan wind a Phat Staple for me and will request it under-wound as normally it is wound to a high (IMO) 9.1K Ohm. My personal preference would be something closer to 7.5K Ohm for most any neck pickup (a modern staple pickup included).

@mattflickinger8151 3 года назад

HK Guitar very cool

@horsehead 3 года назад

The staple sound better as a pickup overall, but I agree, an underwound staple...oooo glorious

@Cottonrocket 3 года назад

I prefer the under-wound followed by the 50’s. Thank you for taking the time to compare these!

@guitarsimon1 3 года назад

Tone King Imperial, lead channel, NO PEDALS “Golly!” *monocle pops out*

@BaronsDuju 3 года назад

I stopped watching NOFX Backstage Passport to watch this. The notification came up and I instantly switched over without thought. And very excitedly. Man I love TPS videos. Also, these Lollars sound so much better than the stock pups. I think I like the inbetween position with the staples in the neck. Btw that NOFX show is also worth a watch! RU-vid spoils me.

@yoshi-808 3 года назад

Ma-na-ger!!!

@BaronsDuju 3 года назад

@@yoshi-808 haha you know it! I'm going to need to watch it several more times when I'm done. I'm obsessed!

@LollarPickups 3 года назад

I was just watching their Red Rocks live version of The Decline with the Baz's Orchestra yesterday and saw the teaser for Backstage Passport in my suggested video. It looks pretty good and sounds like you concur. I'll have to check that out! (sidenote: if you haven't seen that performance of The Decline, you should watch it. They have a bassoon. "Do Bad Religion have a bassoon?!" Haha!

@BaronsDuju 3 года назад

@@LollarPickups Yes, give it a watch! :) I honestly can't recommend it enough. I'll check out the Red Rocks Decline performance in the meantime! Thanks for the recommendation. :)

@clench13 3 года назад

I’m really taking the sound of that underwound P90. Hands-down sounds it’s so lush and creamy sounding. I bet the staple P90 would cut through a mix very nicely as well. Ultimately, the choice is yours my friend. Good luck.

@rhykko77 3 года назад

Your comments @ 12:17 re "problems with this test" include some of the most insightful, rarely mentioned issues regarding doing solid , fair comparisons that I have seen anywhere. I have heard very few comments onthe fact that new pickups have to 'break in " for a while before they really settle in and sound right . Kudos ! I have spent over 20 years doing fanatical pickup comparisons and I fully agree with your comments.

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Thank you Rhykko. I’d never really thought about it before until Ron Ellis mentioned it to me. He told me to ignore the sounds of them for the first hour or so at least. Stands to reason I guess!? And then time. We’ll time changes everything, always!

@SquareWaveSymphonies 3 года назад

Personally,I preferred the underwound P90. It just had some kind of clarity and lightness that, to my ears that is, the other PU's lacked.

@vhollund 3 года назад

And if sometimes you want darker there's the toneknob

@SquareWaveSymphonies 3 года назад

@@vhollund True!

@pastorkev777 3 года назад

It was a great tone, I use my volume knob on 6-7 with p90s and get that light sound, but have room for solo.

@Vintage35MM 3 года назад

I did too, plus the middle position had a better tone to my ears.

@nickthenail 3 года назад

That reaction at 3:42 says everything. In my mind, the video transformed from P90 comparisons, to how much better that Les Paul sounds from that McCarty. 🔥

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Shhhhhh. Don’t tell anyone. Hey ho. That’s what £7,500 buys you then!

@vincet68 3 года назад

To my ears, it was between the 50s and the Staple too, Mick. This guitar sounds like it might be a candidate for the “Artie De-mud mod” so named after a long term expert on the Seymour Duncan forums). For a non-humbucker, place a 500K resistor in series with the hot output wire of pickup, with a 0.01uF cap in parallel (essentially, a subtle treble bleed) - this mod rescued the neck tone of my ES335!

@noisesoundtonevibe 3 года назад

The palpable fun when you said "It sounds... stupid good" warmed my heart. With the glimpse you've given us on your mental health journey (which I appreciate all the more as I suspect I may have to deal with some issues myself), it's great to see you enjoying these moments, letting loose. I think this can only occur when you're experiencing some form of balance. And yeah, it did sound stupid good.

@dan5danPT 3 года назад

50s wind for me. Without looking at the subtitles, I almost unanimously picked the 50s. Staple had more growl, but you have that in spades with the bridge. Plus the combination of the 50s & bridge together gives another unique and beautiful voice!

@cchavez248 3 года назад

Man, that 50/50 is phenomenal sounding!!! Then the p90's, rabbit hole indeed!

@olavjorvik94 3 года назад

Even Mick is incorporating Capt Lee's lick these days! What a visionary! What a pioneer! hahah

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Ihmmmmmm

@andrewdavies8955 3 года назад

The excitement on Mick’s face when he opens the box with the Messa power amp in it 🤩. Loved the staple 👌🏽

@periloustemple8290 3 года назад

Missed you boys so much yesterday! Love that you share this great gift with us. I'm not efficient enough (and can't justify the purchases) with soldering - and trying pickups. I'm glad to get to watch and hear you do it. It ends up making me find the things that makes me love me own rig - and work within the boundaries of what I have today. That might be odd to say, but its good and its a good thing. You help with gas - and I refocus myself on just playing better - and dialing it whatever I have.

@hitnorcal 3 года назад

It was fun to watch you explore. Thanks for the insights Mick and letting us into your livingroom.

@Chewy_5150 3 года назад

It’s a tie between the underwound and the staple.

@pastorkev777 3 года назад

I would suggest you check out Bootstrap pickups squeaky clean p90, which will be like a hybrid of those two pickups. They sound great.

@tulk3747 3 года назад

Exactly my choices as well. giving the underwound the edge. Especially worked much better in the middle position

@murfmurphy6212 3 года назад

Agreed. I like the stratiness of the staple... also, it makes the guitar unique. The under wound sounds great as well. but I feel you can get that sound with a bunch of other guitars

@cfrssll58 3 года назад

To my ear, rested from three days camping in a quiet forest, the staple brought out more character of this particular guitar across most of the comparisons. In the loud tests, the staple held its own better across multiple pedal configurations, I think, and kept a clear voice over the widest range of dynamics. Very informative (with headphones) comparisons, thanks!

@nevillemarten1697 3 года назад

This was a spectacular demo, Mick (my Les Paul nothwithstanding). This is what the internet needs more of!

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Thanks mate! And thanks for the Lester - lots of very nice comments about it!

@nevillemarten1697 3 года назад

@@ThatPedalShow I just had lunch with Aynsley Lister. He said he thoroughly enjoyed this too. Keep the Lester for as long as you like, old chap!

@rtosborne4 3 года назад

Some of the best pickup demoing out there! That new Mesa rig doesn’t sound AMAZING! Thanks for taking the time to share this process with us 💯

@abemcbeard6290 3 года назад

The under wound to my ears sounds the best, a nice airy tone

@khai_nomore8613 3 года назад

Underwound sound glorious.

@simonl9800 3 года назад

Thanks so much for this special Mick, the time and effort you have put into this has not gone unnoticed, the differences between the pickups comes across so clearly through my relatively cheap Alesis Mk2 monitors, that I don't need to go through this exercise myself to discover the nuances between these great pickups. I think the 50's wind is what I am looking for by the way, I now know this even though I don't have anything with P90s on it at the moment!

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Thanks Simon. The 50s are my faves too. Good luck!

@dobster5819 3 года назад

Love the 50 wind , your touch with that guitar is wonderful. Thanks Mick.

@Joe_Biden915 2 года назад

Underwound was my favorite and its wasn't close for my ear. Listening to you jam brought the others to life.

@fairenoughthenwhat 3 года назад

From the outside, I loved both underwound and staple pickups. The underwound sounds sweet to my ears. The staple pickup seemed to have an authoritative clarity in both scenarios. Your 'honky' description of the 50s PU was spot on, and it sounded great on the 2 channel setup. I have a nice amp, DAC and speakers, but obviously it can't compare to being in your shoes at all. P90s are so good.

@GlennMichaelThompson 2 года назад

Prior to watching this video I watched your vlog on the Epiphone Casino pickup swap. I've missed the tone of a guitar with a P90 pickup since my 56 Gibson ES-225T was stolen from me about 30 years ago, after playing it for more than 16 years myself. I've since had several good hollowbody guitars (as well as semi-hollow and solidbodies). But never with P90 pickups. I'm just about to purchase a chambered mahogany body equipped with Lollar silent P90's. After hearing the swap in the Epi, and all the various Lollar P90's in this video I'm feeling confident in my next guitar acquisition. Thanks for such great videos. I've liked and subscribed. Cheers.

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Good luck with it Glenn - that sounds like a very promising combination! Thanks for the kind words!

@kevroyo 3 года назад

Oh man I was in love with that 50's wound after the first chord.

@martindeandrade1275 3 года назад

A couple years ago I bought a humble 2013 Tribute 50's LP with the baseball bat type neck, no weight relief and "real" rosewood neck. Great playability and very resonant. I wasn't quite happy with the original pickups and PCB harness, so I got myself a pair of Lollars -- underwound neck and overwound bridge. Needless to say I had to replace the harness as well. Couldn't be happier with the result!

@JonWickensMusic 3 года назад

Love love love these vlogs Mick! Give us moooore! Haha! And 50s was my favourite by a long long way. Underwound was number 2 for me.

@wooddog3000 3 года назад

Great video!!! Well worth all the effort. Always wanted to see a good video comparing different p-90 style pickups.

@MichaelEdland 3 года назад

Thanks for going the extra mile to evaluate the pickups under similar conditions. It's exactly the right thing to do. But it's such a pain in the ass and takes a lot of time so most of us will never get around to doing it. Great, as always. I preferred the low wind pickup.

@mattelder9147 3 года назад

That’s a great deal of work. Much appreciated. Love that pedalboard setup.

@demantoid418 3 года назад

Thanks for taking us along 🖐😃

@donkeydarko77 3 года назад

Great to hear you playing through a Tone King amp. I have the Falcon Grande, and love it. Hope more people discover these amps, because they are phenomenal.

@StephenWheel 3 года назад

Great vlog Mick, super enjoyed that. The Mesa is mega. Thank you.

@davedavem 3 года назад

Loving the new vlog space! The Lester McPablo sounded awesome. I wish they all sounded like that...

@MikeBradleyofficial 3 года назад

Man, want to give a huge salute to not only how long this must of taken to film, but also how long it must of taken to edit! Great sounds, hard to pick!

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

ThNks Mike!

@davidcudlip6587 2 года назад

Folks are so pumped up about overwound pickups but I think underwound P90's and PAF humbuckers are where the tone's at. More clarity, less mud and wonderful things happen when overdriven.

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Yep.

@Grant_Ferstat 3 года назад

Tough call...I honestly don't know what I preferred. Underwound, 50's and Staple all sounded good to me in different modes!

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

I agree Grant. I think at this point it’s really down to what I’m doing on the guitar. I’m choosing the 50s, I guess because I just wanted the weakest pickup. Cheers!

@Grindian 3 года назад

With you on the 50’s wind, and yesss I hope you’re loving the stereo Mesa love as much as I! (Still worth trying the 20/20 if you haven’t, or maybe that’s more up Dan’s bag!)

@TimBentley 3 года назад

In the initial back to back with the Tone King, the Staple and the Low Wind were my preference - different, but both really good. However, that 50s wind sounded awesome in the "studio" context with the new preamp/poweramp rig. No bad options there, though :-)

@jeffmckinnon5842 2 года назад

You've done a lot of work in putting this video together and I thank you for that. I don't come from the camp of 1 guitar does it all so I have multiple instruments, each doing 1 thing well. I like clean, especially in demo videos and especially when it's loud! I really preferred the under-wound in this demo but it could come up a bit thin in real world situations so if I were to buy a Lollar p-90, I would opt for the 50's wound and go from there. Thank you for doing all this work for us, Jeff from Canada!

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Thanks Jeff. Yeah, I think I settled on the 50s wind in the end. Cheers!

@dep1001 3 года назад

Great vlog as always, Mick! Cheers

@RisingSunGuitarMods 11 месяцев назад

Far out man, just stumbled onto this video, I know its a couple of years old but I just wanted to say I loved listening to you play, smooth licks bro. Great video. 👍

@ThatPedalShow 11 месяцев назад

Thank you kindly!

@Aleph_Null_Audio 3 года назад

There's something special about the bottom end of that staple pickup. If it were me, I'd leave the staple in and drop the pickup height a little.

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

That’s as low as it will go baby!

@agalvanized 3 года назад

I like the sound of the 50’s wind the best, but I think the Staple took you places. Don’t overthink it, keep the one that you enjoyed and inspired you the most.

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Don’t overthink it! Ha. That’s like asking a dog to save some of his dinner for later. :0) anyway, 50s it is!

@agalvanized 3 года назад

Excellent, enjoy! I had a Lollar 50’s in the neck of a LP Special, it was perfect! I should practice what I preach...I’ve been going back and forth between 5 pedals to pair with the Belle Epoch Deluxe to boost into my 5E3 clone. I probably need a new pedal! Cheers! 👍🏼

@Glicksman1 3 года назад

The Underwound pickup sounds best to me, at least through that amp and with the settings you selected, although the 50's Wind was also very good. Hell, all the Lollars were very good. It's just what you like. That Lester is magic. Find one like that and forget pickup swops in other guitars. Sure, just go find one. I know. But that's the journey lots of us fiddle players eventually go on and it really never ends. Isn't getting there half the fun? I hope so because we may never get "there" - if there is a "there". Cheers, Mick

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

I would so buy this if a) it were for sale. B) I had loads of money.

@Glicksman1 3 года назад

@@ThatPedalShow I understood that it was a lender and I know that good ones can cost a bunch. Still, in this instance, the game is worth the candle. As you know, there are some real gems out there waiting for someone to snatch them up. I hope that you will find a way to be one of those someones.

@mariodriessen9740 3 года назад

I didn't have a favourite. All four of these neck PU's sounded the best to me at some point, depending on what you were playing. You said you thought the first one sounded too muddy. I assumed both the Underwound and the 50's would sound less muddy than the one that was already in, but the first couple of things you tried (the three chords ringing out and the shuffle after that) proved differently (to my ears anyway). Having said that, I'd never play anything like that with a sound like that with any P90 in the neck position. It's almost like wanting to play a heavily distorted metal part on a Gibson ES-150 (not trying to be rude - my intentions are good, promised!). Funny thing is that I don't think you'd ever play a shuffle in E anyway. Maybe you do, I can't be sure, it just doesn't seem to be 'you' somehow. I could be wrong. I actually liked the dirtiness and raw power of the first P90 when you were hitting it, playing solo stuff. And for your clean work I liked the Underwound and the 50's better. But to me P90's are all about dirt! For clean neck tones I prefer many different things (Telecaster neck PU's, DeArmond sc's, Filtertrons and even low output humbuckers). It's a good thing we're all chasing different sonic goals. Let's applaud the existence of rabbit holes! Wait...., this sounds terribly wrong! 😳

@ChrisHendrix117 3 года назад

To my ear, the 50’s wind and the Staple have the most presence. The 50’s has a bit more note definition, where the Staple has a nice and sweet overall tone. I’ll be getting a Staple for my LP Jr to go with the Elliott P-90 in the bridge!

@simonmastromatteo5692 3 года назад

I'm sold on the staple... great vlog, I might get one for myself to put on my custom build Tele... ! Cheers

@somebodyelseuk 10 месяцев назад

My gut feeling is the "muddy" Lollar neck (8.2k) in the bridge, with the "underwound" neck (7.7k) at the neck would make a better set. The 50:50... I've been using one with a Triaxis since the '90s. 😁

@VonBlade 3 года назад

What I enjoy out of a neck pickup is probably what few others do. I like them clear and woody rather than the brashness of the bridge. Anyway, that underwound is glorious. It's lovely on its own, with nice note separation, but lovely with some juice.

@braddenyar3641 3 года назад

I think this is the best I have heard you sound Mick! Love the rig sir !

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Thanks Brad!

@djt6546 3 года назад

Hi Mick. Great vlog as usual thanks. I have a Gibson Custom reissue 57 Special. The neck was starting to feel/sound too thick for me and I was thinking of getting the Lollar 50’s for bridge and Underwound for neck as a balanced set. But I then decided to try a 25 cent treble bleed mod on the neck PuP first. So now I can have the heavy grunt with the volume pot wide open and just nock it down a little to get more clarity and balanced tone. Kind of the best of both worlds. I may yet swap PuPs but this 2 minute mod has given me some pause for thought and additional playing time... I’ve also had success altering caps before to roll off a nasty edge to a LP Custom Florentine. Caps are by far the quickest and cheapest mod you can make and great for tweaking a muddy or bright characteristic you dislike about otherwise nice PuPs to your own ears. While I know in this case you didn’t like the older PuPs full stop, keep in mind the finer subtlety that caps can make in their various applications can really put that cherry on an already great cake. Have fun finding the right P90 feeling for you 👍

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Thanks DJ! Much appreciated. I’m sort of ideologically opposed to wiring mods. No idea why, other than they didn’t do it in the old days. Which makes no sense at all why we shouldn’t do it today! Hahaha!

@djt6546 3 года назад

That Pedal Show Gottcha from a purist perspective... but keep the caps bit in your back pocket as a way of fine tuning a sound and feel of what you do like. I see what I did as balancing a sound I like in a darker or brighter sounding guitar body. Plus it costs only a few quid and 2 mins work at a time rather than rewiring as such. Cheers

@dizzyrider3883 3 года назад

I’m amazed that they don’t sound crazily different from each other, given the massively different constructions.

@MartinCliffe 3 года назад

Underwound is the winner for me. The 50s sounded a little thin, the staple a little woofy. But all were better than the original option.

@BadMotivator66 3 года назад

they all sounded great in post-ytb land! i spose the feel is the defining factor, and only mick knows what speaks to mick

@michaelheinz3954 3 года назад

Great Job, Mick, thank you for going down that rabbit hole. That PRS is a fantastic guitar, liked the improvement after the first VLOG already. For my taste it would be underwound at the neck...and then over to that criminally amazing awesome sounding Les Paul. Goldtops rule ;-)

@shawnmcvey7789 3 года назад

I like my P-90s a bit weak, my humbuggies about average, and my single coils hot.

@petergraham9267 3 года назад

Man, those Lollar P90s just take the blanket of that lovely guitar! It was SO muddy before.....now it sings (I love Lollar P90s and have them fitted to my 03 LP Special) Enjoy whichever neck pup you settle on (my fav was the 50s wind......just!) 😊👍

@elbik95 3 года назад

Amazing vlog as usual Mick! You have a really tough choice to make, they all sounded awesome, I would keep the staple P90 not only because it sounds stupidly good, but also because it gives a very different flavor. Out of the regular ones, the best one for me was the 50's Wind P90, but again, that's how you'd expect a P90 to sound, the Staple one leaves you with a "Woah, that was unexpected" kinda thing that I seriously enjoyed.

@LeighWesleyMusic 3 года назад

I personally and subjectively preferd the underwound. Primarily as it sat better when used in combination with the bridge pickup for the kind of sounds i like. Also loving the new vlog space it looks awesome and it adds another layer of production quality and consistency in that space between both mick and Dan's vlogs.

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Thank you Leigh!

@yagoravell7944 3 года назад

I like 50's for cleaner sounds, and the standart for crunch tones. Great vlog Mick

@purimuadmuang2259 3 года назад

That LP sounds glorious, especially the bridge 🤤

@redv0id 2 года назад

Underwound in the bridge position

@AlOKaneMusic 3 года назад

My good lord Mick, with that board set up and the dual MesaBoogie - you roared like nothing else, Bloody awesome mate.

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Thanks Al! There’s more of this rig in today’s show.... and more coming soon!

@AndrewNuttall 3 года назад

50's, more high end and sparkle without lowing the output like the under-wounds. (typed at conclusion of quieter playing). (after loud playing) Yep, 50's for the win for me. And can't wait for my number to come up to order a secret machine, that fuzz rocks.

@enorbet2 3 года назад

Having owned and played extensively a 1972 Reissue Les Paul w/ P-90s and Stopped Tailpiece that I bought in 1972 I was actually surprised that the 50s P-90 in the neck immediately stood out to me and never stopped. It might be because I've always figured it's easy to dump high end but harder to get it in the first place while still sounding full. The 50s gets my vote hands down, softer or louder. Anyway... very interesting "shootout". Thanks.

@jbbourbon178 3 года назад

YES!!! Couldn’t wait for this one!!

@bigdavedave9865 3 года назад

It was over for me the minute you played that les Paul. It sounded WONDERFUL 🙏

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Yeah, there is that. Hahahah!

@DavidDyte1969 3 года назад

My buddy made a Coodercaster for me from a Mexican Strat and Lollar pickups. Oh my yes. Jason does amazing work.

@OneMomentFromForever 3 года назад

Thanks for this Mick, great playing, love the vlog. I just ordered a staple for my p90 guitar, I love the strat vibes. Defs keep the staple in the PRS The Lollar imperials have a very airy quality similar to the gold top Les Paul. I wasn’t a fan and swapped them for something more meaty

@bm7760 5 месяцев назад

I have two of these late '90s McCarty soapbars. One is a beautiful tuxedo black, fixed bridge, maple cap. The other is much more unusual. One piece mahogany body and trem. Apparently PRS would make variations from tim to time to test the market. That one still has the awful Seymour Duncans in it. The maple cap / fixed bridge now has a low-output set of Bare Knuckles. Truthfully, I never seem to play them. Always find myself reaching for a Strat..... Might be why I liked the Staple best. It was the most Strat-like (which, obviously, wasn't the objective).

@petegeoghegan7562 3 года назад

Sounding great Mick. Have to say my fave in the four was the under wound. I was hearing a bit of early 70's Townshend. They all have a character of their own for certain.

@toneydavis9802 3 года назад

They all sounded good. I quit swapping pups back and forth. Play it in a mix first then decide if you want to swap out. If you do swap out it play the new pair in a mix. I have a set list of songs I go through. If it mixes well it stays.

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

I played the guitar in bands when I first got it. And then put it away for 10 years. Hahaha!

@gypsyjoo 3 года назад

50s for me! It has a lovely chimey ring and clarity, plus I liked how it sat with the bridge pickup. Having said that the staple had a nice bit of nastiness and balls that I quite liked, but maybe keep it for another guitar. Everyone needs an excuse for more guitars!

@4425evergreen 3 года назад

My best ever guitar is a Nash tele with Lollards single coils. I have guitars the feel better to my hands but nothing sounds better. The ears never lie. Great video!

@colinfreeman7461 3 года назад

Absolutely heroic effort in the interest of arcane science and magic! I'd like to hear a follow-up where you review your own sounds back and settle on a pup.

@ThatPedalShow 3 года назад

Thanks Colin. I’ve decided on the 50s, partly because I //really// like them. Partly because that’s what’s in there now. :0) Partly because of this audio.

@GregoryStoner 3 года назад

The Staple Pickups dirty and volume were just lovely. It was hard to say what was better clean in a small room, but it seemed the 50's wind seamed to get your best playing clean. I have to say I love Lolar Staples on my Novo Serius J in the neck and bridge. My Novo T Amalfitano P-45 neck pickup a little different since it is only using a single bar magnet, lower output than the P-90.

@DoobTube71 3 года назад

50s Wind sounds great! Clean & clear with grit for tears!

@jonathanyork3636 3 года назад

First off- the gain channel on that amp is KILLER. I know that cleans are awesome, but man- what an amp! Of the pickups they all sounded good. Assuming you are going for clarity I'd choose the underwound P90. However, the staple has a unique grind to it that sounds awesome. If I were playing southern rock or slide I'd go with the staple pup-

@brianpara1407 3 года назад

Ordered a Mojo Staple P90 earlier this month with the nickel bezel. Can’t wait to try it out!

@TheSpiffyBiscuits 3 года назад

My favourites were 50s followed closely by the underwound for cleans and the underwound for driven sounds. Overall the underwound wins it for me on balance.