I love McLuhan. I think it's sad that the media puts people like Kirk Cameron and Pat Robertson up on a platform and say, 'This is Christendom, isn't it foolish?' It's nice to listen to a true intellectual talk about the church in a positive way. Really though I haven't head anything this intelligent on religion in recent years. That includes inside of churches I've been in. Robertson and Cameron probably are the better representatives. I think I find that depressing. I think I'm depressed.