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Fractal FM9 vs FM3: which one to buy? is it worth upgrading from the FM3?

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In this video we will share the main differences between the FM3 and FM9, trying to answer the questions, is the FM9 worth the extra money vs the FM3? If you already have the FM3 is it worth upgrading? I hope you enjoy and please don’t forget to subscribe and it the bell as it would really help me to make more videos like this!
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0:00 - Intro
0:21 - Main differences (FM9 vs FM3)
4:12 - Differences summary and my opinion (FM9 vs FM3)
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@mCKENIC 3 года назад

Thank you Leo for the comparison! Out of my price range but interesting to see what the big boys are doing! Cheers!

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

You are welcome! Yes, super interesting devices...

@karolkozak64 2 года назад

When i bought my kemper stage it was the only thing i was looking into when i switched from using a helix lt. I wanted a floor model format for simple gigging options, at home use and something that's easily transported. Number 1 priority was quality of sound and the FM3 was the only other option. With just a few buttons, less complex chains and 1amp/1cab only i immediately discarded that as an option. Having said that I just signed up to the FM9 waiting list for Europe. I love the axe edit, the 2 amp/2cab options and signal chain variety with high quality effects. With kemper i quickly realized i am never going to do profiles of my own so i was limited to purchasing 3rd party profiles with very little tweaking opportunity. In some sense you have to hunt for the tone that you hope you'll like based on overproduced youtube videos and you get stuck with having to scroll through a lot to find something that you like that matches your style, the music, the mix etc. Also the dedicated controls gain/mid/bass/treble etc do not translate into how the amp would behave when tweaking since those are set Q controls on the Kemper. Don't get me wrong the kemper sounds great despite it being 10 yrs old but in my case the sound is only as good as the profile i find. That means i have very few opportunities to be in control of the sound. That means blindly buying profiles.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, thank you for sharing your opinions and experiences...very interesting topics and I found very interesting your description about your decision making path! Thank you once more!

@tarkgundogdu8940 Год назад

Yeah but still it means it can expand in a limitless way. With other units you are limited to the amps they offer. For instance I have learnt that there is not much amp sims for Hughes & Kettner amps in Fractal or Helix units. But they have Kemper profiles.

@yanossnicklefritz7064 2 года назад

It comes down to what you want and are going to use it for. I have an FM3 and love it. The single amp and cab model chain sounds great and the effects are awesome. Basically giving you a sound similar to you running a tube amp thru your cab with the effects you add on. A solid basic rig. But I am constantly running at the edge or out of processing power. Now everyone has what they like and use and I commonly don't use much. Compression and an overdrive pedal going into the amp into the cab with an enhancer, delay and reverb after the cab. And that creates tones I love. But pushing the delay and reverb up to higher resolution settings where they sound much better and really improve the overall tone, pushes the processor to it's limits. So,.. if you think you want more than that, buy an FM9 or AXE-FX III. Cause you won't be as limited.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion and experience!!!

@yanossnicklefritz7064 2 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr My pleasure. Hopefully that helps you and others in their choices.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Yes, it is absolutely helpful!

@heut4384 7 месяцев назад

Yep, you're right. I've always been a single guitar player from a trio to 5 band members. I had to make all guitar sounds for my bands for each songs: Acoustic, clean, crunch, Hi Gain, and multiple FXs and Amps for each song. For that reason, I need 9 or all 12 buttons. The 3 buttons will not work for me.😅

@sk1968dart 2 года назад

I gig with FM3 with FC12..... I'm in a cover band and I like to emulate the amp and cab of original song as much as possible, FC12 is too big, but I don't like kicking buttons above other buttons, the seamless amp transition and lower CPU value is worth the change to FM9 alone, I'm always fighting to keep CPU value down on FM3. I'm on the waiting list, for what It's worth it took me 10 months to get my FM3 last time I was on waiting list.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi Steve, thank you for sharing your opinion! I waited more than an year for the FM3...so I know what it means...😊 If you want, please share when you will receive the FM9...I'm curious to know how long is gonna take the waiting list... Thank you!

@RegalitoDeDios2 2 года назад

Just ordered the FM3, because I want to use it as a desktop modeler. For my use case it's the perfect choice, I think.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, thank you for sharing your final choice!

@Joop5000 2 года назад

I would and am seriously considering the FM9 over the FM3 because it has more foot switches and more processing power. I really want the AxeFx 3, but have to save too many pennys for that. Also Leo, love your playing!

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Thank you so much, both for sharing your opinion and for the compliments...when you like my playing...I'm happy!

@MOAB-UT Год назад

Did you get it- do you like it? I am trying to decide between FM9 Turbo, FM3 or Ampero 2. Any thoughts?

@Joop5000 Год назад

@@MOAB-UT I actually went with neither, i got the Line 6 Helix Lt instead. I didn't have to wait for it. I love the Helix, it serves me well! That's not to say i wouldn't get anything else, i still would like to get a Fractal unit and right now i am thinking about the Axfx3, but by the time i do, they probably will come out with something that rivals even that, LoL!

@r.llynch4124 3 года назад

I sold my FM3 because I couldn't get along with the 3 switches. I bought a QC but quickly missed all the great effects Fractal has. I have been a Fractal user for over a decade now. The QC amps sounded good but lack so many fx bummed me out. I sold my QC and will be purchasing the new FM9. It's the perfect amount of foot switches and I get all the Fractal goodies.

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Hi, thank you for sharing! I think it's an interesting discussion: may I ask why you didn't buy an FM3 + midi controller (a midi controller cheaper than the Fractal ones). I'm asking because I'm also undecided if it is better the FM3 + cheap midi controller (to have even more flexibility: if you want you bring with you the whole package or just the FM3 for more compactness) or the FM9, which is more expensive but offers an all in one solution. As regards QC FX, I do agree, so far they are limited...I hope they will close the gap with future firmware upgrade, as I really like the form factor. Thank you!

@user-on8rf1yf4g 3 года назад

Why not change to Axe FXlll + FC-12 ? FM9 is still very much limited by the capabilities of the processor twice that of Axe FXlll. When I began to constantly exceed the processor limit when drawing up presets, I firmly decided to change to Axe FXlll and FM9 will not lead me astray :)

@r.llynch4124 3 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr FM3 plus midi would work ok but I think overall FM9 makes more sense if you have the extra cash. Some people don't have that extra cash so FM3 is cheaper to own. Might revisit the QC in a year or two. I too love the form factor of the QC. It's so easy to use as well and amp tones sound great. It's the future of modelers.

@r.llynch4124 3 года назад

@@user-on8rf1yf4g I do have ax3 but only for recording use. Portability is an issue with it though. I need an all in one solution for the floor. FM3 is great for most people but I couldn't deal with the 3 switches for some reason. FM9 should workout perfect for me. QC is great if you don't need much fx. The QC fx quality is not there yet. Maybe in year or two?

@user-on8rf1yf4g 3 года назад

@@r.llynch4124 It is clear, but FM9 is also twice as large in comparison with FM3 , and most likely not very convenient for carrying. Well, in any case, thank you for your answer and success in your work.

@mikewhitla2845 5 месяцев назад

One important thing to remember is four separate amp channels can go into each amp block so really it is is 8 amps for the FM9 and 4 amps for the FM3. I think 4 is enough for me.

@LeoGibsonGtr 5 месяцев назад

Hi, as far as I understood, you can NOT play at the same time different channels, where with the FM9 you can put two amps in parallel....in this way, having two different amps at the same time. Thanks

@mikewhitla2845 5 месяцев назад

Yes that is right @@LeoGibsonGtr

@WarrenPostma 2 года назад

Very solid information. There are just so many great multi-effect modelling floorboard units now, this one, and the low end mooer ones, and the various Line6 offerings, the neural dsp stuff, and the AxeFx. So many options.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Thank you! You are right....there are a lot of options!

@MOAB-UT 2 года назад

Indeed. It's a great time to be a guitar player Warren!

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

I do agree!

@fredmanteghian5913 2 года назад

I have an AXE FX Mk2 and zero footswitches. The cost of the foot switches are quite expensive so I mostly just use the mouse! Thanks Leo. The FM9 looks really nice.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi Fred, you are welcome and thank you for sharing your opinion and experience!

@jorgemm1000 2 года назад

You cab but some morning star FC, they are cheaper and will work !!

@MOAB-UT Год назад

Do you wish you got a FM9?

@MOAB-UT 2 года назад

Very good review. You might mention next time about how the PC editor on the new FM9 editor is much better and very similar to the AFx3. There are very few things that the FM9 cannot do vs. the AFXIII. Basically you are getting a floor version of the AxeFXIII for much less money and 9 more onboard footswitches. The FM9 is definitely an out of the park homerun for Fractal- and all of us guitar players! Yes, I am on the waitlist!!!

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, thank you for sharing!

@jcoulter43 3 года назад

Supply is the issue. Great video Leo. I would most likely get a Neural DSP Quadcortex for similar money. But again, if you can't get one for several months to a year, there are a lot of other options for less money available right now. God bless and rock on 😎🎸👍

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Thank you! Yes, availability is a very good point...for instance so far we don't know when the FM9 will be available in Europe...and how long will be the waiting list...time will tell...

@mikezimmerman5633 3 года назад

Hey Leo just wanted to correct you on one thing about your video comparisons. The FM 3, you can run one amp and two cabinets, you can also run both cabinets at high resolution if you like just a heads up.

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Hi Mike, thank you for this clarification!

@tomboos5286 3 года назад

Thanks Leo for this first information. Since I am looking for a good replacement for my Digitech RP1000 for a long time, this could be the suitable replacement.

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

You are welcome! Thank you for sharing your opinion and yes...you the FM9 seems very promising...

@mikezimmerman5633 3 года назад

Fractal audio highly recommended!!

@siracdc6204 2 года назад

Great review, helps a lot. I'm on the waiting list in Europe. Hope they start shipping soon

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, thank you, I'm happy that you find the video useful! Let's cross our fingers for the availability time...

@trinacria1956 2 года назад

Thanks for this. I was shocked at first since just bought FM3! But I see it is more than good for my uses. Now to practice my guitar try and play better! Haha!

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

You are welcome! Thank you for sharing your opinion!

@MOAB-UT 2 года назад

I feel the same way- but better gear can actually help you to play better for many reasons- the tone and motivation to play. If you want some good instruction- check out zombieguitar and guitartricks. I joined both and really like them- and I've been playing a while. I can learn from anyone and each site offers unique info. All of this said, gear and effects are great but never rely on them to cover your tone. Be able to play unplugged with a metronome. Level 2- play the song twice, exactly the same! One of the best concerts I went to was Chris Cornell playing unplugged for 2 hours- just a chair, acoustic and a glass of water. His kind of talent is rare. Enjoy your FM3!

@brucedickinson8993 Месяц назад

Hey Leo, all good? There's MUCH difference between fm3 mk2 turbo and this version of the video?

@LeoGibsonGtr Месяц назад

I'm fine thanks, and I hope you are fine too!!! The mkII should be more powerful and therefore maybe the latency is better (even if I don't know as I didn't test it). Then I think you can load more effect before overloading the DSP. I don't know if you can load two amps.... Thanks!

@GelaendeLars 3 года назад

Well, I think in that pricerange upgrading to FXIII would be the better solution. I own the FM3 and I'm very happy. The differences between the algorithm for reverbs (Economy-Ultra High) is actually not huge. Plus the fm3 is super small. I think, if I would upgrade, I would go for a FXIII.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi thank you for sharing your opinion and experience! The only cons I see in the FX III is its limited portability ... I mean it's quite bit an heavy...but for desktop usage...it's for sure great! Thank you once more!

@GelaendeLars 2 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr Depends on the size of the FM9 - if its like 2x times bigger than the FM3 it will get huge. We will see. Btw, I like your Videos!

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Thank you so much! I'm happy you like the videos!!!

@RodrigoPezzotti 2 года назад

Great like always! thank you Leo!

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

You are welcome Rodrigo, I'm happy you like the video!

@bksweet6331 2 года назад

Great info, great comparison 👍 👏 👌

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Thank you, I'm super happy that you like the video!!!

@acasadiluca 3 года назад

Grande Leo! Non sapevo dell'fm9! Date le "lamentele" sulla mancanza di footswitch di serie su fm3 magari chi ha intenzione di utilizzarlo live farà volentieri il salto... Anche solo per gas... 😂 Nonostante tutto anche io opterei per fm3 per le stesse ragioni... Compatto... Possibilità di utilizzo desk e signal chain piuttosto semplice. Grazie per l'approfondimento!

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Grazie a te! In effetti...al massimo compri un controller midi per controllare FM3 live.

@OliverAndTheTwist 2 года назад

Hey I’ve been battling this dilemma forever - would appreciate some advice! So I am both lead guitarist and lead singer in the band (I also play flute and a bit of sax) so my choices are between this and a Helix Floor. Obviously this has more DSP and as a new model coming out vs an aged flagship model this *should* sound better, but does the Vocal functionality of the Helix make it a better choice as in all-in-one (considering I could use the Helix to add Vocal Delay+Reverb for a flute solo) or should I be focusing on buying a dedicated guitar processor for my guitar and then leaving VocalFX management on the mixer? (Can I route Fractal to control my mixer’s mic effects via foot pedal? Or can I use a tablet or iPhone to wirelessly control my mixer via bluetooth? That would mean I basically supersede the vocal benefits of the Helix. Would appreciate some input as someone who gigs ~200-250x a year and is new to modeling but not performing

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi Olivier, personally, if I had to sing and play I would probably buy two different processors, as I would also like to have pitch correction like you have in the TC hellion. Alternatively I would go with a unit that offers also a mic preamp, and as far as I know, the mic preamp is available int he Quad Cortex, the Helix Floor or the Fractal FX III Thank you for your question!

@domenicogerbasi6304 3 года назад

Ottimo video, bravo Leo, come sempre!Vero che FM9 nasce per stare su un palco (è perfetta per questo!) non su una scrivania ma la forza di FM3 è proprio la compattezza che porti ovunque in uno zaino e che però può tranquillamente fare un figurone nei concerti LIVE: molti lo usano (con o senza ulteriori footswitches) e solo il lockdown ne ha frenato fino ad ora l'utilizzo sui palchi. Dal video in realtà sembra che FM3 non sia fatta per il LIVE su un palco: non è così, con qualche accorgimento FM3 è perfetta per un live. La stragrande maggioranza dei chitarristi non ha bisogno di 2 ampli e di un fiume di cavi I/O siamo onesti! Eppure il chitarrista è uno strano individuo che acquista strumentazione compulsivamente, senza un REALE bisogno effettivo... Fractal non poteva accettare che la concorrenza ostentava la pedaliera più potente al mondo e con FM9 si riprende la pole position ma ciò non toglie nulla alla capacità espressiva e alla qualità globale di FM3 che resta un miracolo di tecnologia racchiusa in pochi cm.

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Ciao Domenico, grazie per aver condiviso la tua opinione e la tua esperienza. Concordo con quanto dici, nel video intendevo dire "maggiormente orientata" ad suo live e "maggiormente orientata" ad uso desk...ma eventualmente con una pedaliera midi aggiuntiva puoi integrare i footswitches della FM3. Anche io onestamente non sento il bisogno di passare alla FM9 ed adoro la compattezza della FM3. Poi magari per il canale YT potrebbe essere utile un test sul campo della FM9...vedremo... Grazie ancora del messaggio!

@domenicogerbasi6304 3 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr grazie per la risposta. La tua professionalità ti pone km avanti a tutti!!!

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Grazie!...troppo buono 😊

@georgesabitpol 2 года назад

Leo is the man.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Thank you, really appreciated!!!

@pauliusmscichauskas558 3 года назад

As an FM3 owner, i don't need the FM9. It doesn't fit in my backpack, so that's a huge downgrade for me. However, I might have it sometime in a distant future, just for the fun of it, or an extra tool in the rehearsal place, studio.

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Hi, thank you for sharing! and yes, the FM9 seems to be pretty big...

@Cherry_Sunburst 2 года назад

Thank you very much fot this video...!

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

You are welcome, I'm happy that you find it useful!

@mauriziobiagini2825 3 года назад

This is really cool! Do you think Fractal is working on a smaller version of fM3? Something like FM2 or FM1 with less power and less expensive?? Tks Leo!

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Hi Maurizio, interesting...but I don't know...maybe something in the 500€/$ could be very cool, in order to compete with POD GO, MG 30, HR MX5, etc... but I'm not sure that this would be imply such a big limitation of the DSP power that their algorithms could not even run...or a severe compromise in quality that I don't think Fractal is incline to do. Another point is that a cheaper unit would imply higher sales volumes...and this imply (I think) a change in Fractal distribution policy... Obviously if someone knows, please drop us a message. Thank you!

@ROKZLEON 2 года назад

Leo, do you think the Auto Input Impedance on the FM9 makes a big difference?

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, first of all thank you!!! This is a difference between the FM3 and FM9 that I didn't mention in the video... I would answer reporting what Fractal is saying: > "Some old stomp boxes, i.e. Univibe, fuzzes, etc. have a low input impedance. This low input impedance will load down a guitar's pickups and change the frequency response of the pickups.[...] if you want to exactly model one of these old stomp boxes you need to replicate the impedance loading" > "Variable input impedance is a nice feature if you want accuracy but it's not that big of a deal and certainly doesn't make one device better than another. Personally I prefer the sound with it turned off." Personally I agree with what Fractal is writing. Thank you once more for pointing out this difference!

@Bognerman14 Год назад

Hi, the FM3 says for desk use? Does it work well for live use? How many patches or sound options can you have for one bank, 3? So for example, you could have clean, rhythm and lead patches on a bank but that is the max? Nice thing about FM9 is having extra patches per song.

@samgeorge2494 3 года назад

Nice. Thank you Leo! I just have a concern regarding the tone quality, does the tone quality in FM3 is identical to the tone quality in Axe-Fx3? you mentioned that the tone is the same in both FM3 and FM9 does this mean the tone in FM3 and FM9 is less quality comparing to Axe-Fx3 due to the "type of processors" in Axe-Fx3 "which is Texas Instruments" is different than the one in FM3 & FM9? Thanks again.

@mikezimmerman5633 3 года назад

All three have the same cygnus processing they all have the exact same sound quality 👍

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Hi Sam, As Mike is saying, so far tone wise they are the same, sharing the same algorithms. Thank you for your question

@MOAB-UT 2 года назад

The FM9 and AxeFXIII can produce patches that sound noticeably more complex (arguably better) than what the FM3 is able to do. Although it's true that the individual effects may be the same, the FM3 for example, cannot run dual amps and high-res. reverbs and h-res. delays at the same time- not even dual amps alone. If you don't need those things, the FM3 will still sound GREAT, but no, not the same. It's like having the same car but then you put a weaker engine in it. It will still look good, and the car has many of the same features, but it is not the same. You are also comparing an $1,100 (FM3) product to one that costs about $2,500 (AFxIII) if you include the footswitches...so it's not apples to apples.

@MOAB-UT 2 года назад

@@mikezimmerman5633 Not exactly. You can't process nearly as much signal info. on the FM3 so in many cases it simply cannot sound the same. Individual tones probably- but not all playing together. Many complex patches on the FM9 or AxeFXIII will absolutely not fully carry over to the FM3 e.g,. dual amps, multiple hi-res. effects. The exception is if your patches are mostly simple with a low cpu load. Anything that is over 50% on the FM9 simply won't play fully on the FM3. Now between the FM9 and the AXEFXIII- you could port over nearly everything at 100%. If you need a patch that exceeds the CPU of the FM9 you have other issues. Rock legends didn't have any of this technology- just skill and really big amps (and hair!) Cheers!

@joliethebluestang3705 2 года назад

@@MOAB-UT I wonder how many actually use multiple amps in their patches. Coming from Helix this seemed a big concern for me but then I hear most people with Fractals never use multiple amps in their presets?

@AndGuitar 3 года назад

FM9 and yes.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Ok, thank you for sharing your opinion! May I ask you why?

@Supernautiloid 3 года назад

bro your accent is epic

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Hi, I'm sorry for that...so far I've no time to invest in my English as all the time is invested in guitar playing, composing and YT videos...maybe in the future. Thank you for your patience!

@Supernautiloid 3 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr Haha no man, epic = awesome. I love your accent it's great lol.

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Ahhh, thank you...appreciated! 😊

@picksalot1 3 года назад

I own an HX Stomp, and it allows for multiple Amps, Cabs, Distortions, etc. Like you, I don't run very complex signal chains. The Fractal units are built like tanks, so that could be an important criteria for a world travelling musician. Rather pricey units. I don't have any plans to upgrade what I'm currently using. It seems to me that we are at a point where modern Modelers sound similar and have similar features, particularly in the hands of an experienced user. Our senses are biologically limited, so there's a point beyond which higher fidelity audio specs become meaningless, unless one is reducing audio track speeds for some special processing effects. I think makers of Modelers should focus on what makes these units more user friendly, easier and faster to dial in, and more versatile. I'm always looking at how I can get more and better results out of less gear. Thanks

@picksalot1 3 года назад

@@davman115 Bummer. I guess they only look like they're built like tanks. 🤷‍♂️

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing...I was not aware of this problem...

@uptownphotography 2 года назад

Hi Leo, What would you recommend for the best modeling pedal for direct recording guitar solos (overdrive and distortion sounds) into a DAW. Recording a miked amp sometimes can be a challenge with room acoustics, mike placement, etc, so I am looking for a really good way to get a great guitar solo sound direct. Thanks in advance if you have any suggestions. Philip NYC Area

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi Philip, if you don't need the extra foot switches or the possibility to load 2 amps in the signal chain, you can save some money and buy the FM3. Thank you for your message!

@uptownphotography 2 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr Thanks Leo! I actually should have been more clear. Out of ALL brands of modeling pedals, what would you say is the best model for direct recording of over-drive and distortion guitar solo sounds. Sorry for the confusion. Philip NYC Area

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi Philip, well, it's hard to give you a definitive answer. All the modellers has pro and cons, according to your needs, and the absolute perfect one for every body does not exit (in my opinion). For recording at home you have a lot of very good options, like the NUX MG 30, the Ampero Stomp II, BOSS GT 1000 core, HX Stomp, Fractal FM3, Quad Cortex....it really comes down to your budget and your personal preferences. Of course the FM3 is a very good and solid option. Thank you for your message and sorry if I can not give you the "definitive" answer.

@uptownphotography 2 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr I appreciate your follow up response Leo. It means a lot and you have given me some options to look at. Thank you. I agree also that there may not be a perfect option as everyone's needs may be a little different. That makes total sense. It is a little hard finding a great sounding overdrive and distortion guitar SOLO sound when you can't really demo all the units and mainly go by reviews. Your reviews are always very detailed and very helpful in many regards. Thank you again for your response. All the best. Philip NYC Area

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

you are welcome Philip! thank you for your messages and for your comprehension!

@alecwoodruffmusic 2 года назад

What would be an example of a way to utilize having more than one set of stereo outputs? If you have an FRFR speaker, couldn't you just connect your modeler to that, and then take the output on the FRFR to the mains if you are playing live? What situation would call for more than one output on the modeler itself, like the multiple outputs the FM9 has that the FM3 lacks?

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi Alec, one example could be that you send the sound with the amp and cab simulation to the mixing desk and the sound without the cab sim to a power amp and cabinet. Thank you for your question.

@christianfilouler 3 года назад

Thanks Leo for the short info video. I wrote you yesterday or a few days ago when reviewing Headrush that I actually wanted to order the FM3. Was scared yesterday that there will be an FM9. However, the price is too high for me. I wanted a small form factor and the FM3 has that, single chain is enough for me. What I like about the big brother, however, are the more USB options "in_USB" and USB 5 + 6 for routing to the Out2. Maybe something will come with a firmware update if that is technically possible. You said expand FM3 with a footswitch, can you recommend one to me? The Fraktal footswitch is too expensive at 600 €, what is a cheap alternative to switch effects? Ease of use would be good Thanks and regards

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Hi Christian, yes, I remember your message and actually I start researching for FM9 info thanks to that message...as I always say...your messages are super important for me! Thank you also for sharing your opinion and experience! As regards the midi pedalboard I use the Boss ES8, as it provides me the possibility to integrate a full analog chain and can be used as a switcher even for pedals. If you need no more than 4 footswitches, you can go with something like the Ampero Control (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7bPGg7vTP5w.html). Another interesting option is the Melo audio midi commander that can serve also as audio interface (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-naTeXd5boA4.html) or you can go with something like the Behringer FCB1010. I have never tried it, but I think it can do the job. Thank you once more!

@m.r.4455 2 года назад

Hi Christian I own a FM3 and I recently expanded it with Voes midi pedalboard. Check that company. They make different sized quality pedalboard with full compatibility with Fractal. I’m happy with mine. I bought the MX-5 because I prefer having switches in line rather than in a squared matrix.

@christianfilouler 2 года назад

@@m.r.4455 Hi there, thanks for the tip! Looks super interesting, the price for the MX-5 is OK too, the big ones are quite expensive. The controller can be set just like the "normal" buttons via the FM Edit software. I have no experience with MIDI at all? Thanks very much

@m.r.4455 2 года назад

@@christianfilouler No FM3 edit will continue to set up just the FM3 switches. You have to use the dedicated Voes editor (for Windows or Mac) to define your external pedalboard. When you buy from them, they will send you some links to get editor, manuals, helping videos. You have also to change some value in the FM3 machine set up, but they will tell everything about. Here the link they send me as tutorial ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3pYU3GQSoJM.html

@trinacria1956 2 года назад

If I want 2 different amps at same time I can use my 1988 Johnson millennium JM 150 modeling amplifier. Took Fractal 33 years to catch up !!?

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing your opinion and experience!

@santana2420 Год назад

Hi. Are you recording any FM9 exclusive video?

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi, I was in the waiting list...but when my turn arrived I gave up...to much money (with a price increase), and I'm fine with the FM3. Of course if Fractal sends me a unit, I would be really happy to review it on the channel...but so far, I can't afford it. Thank you for your message!

@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 3 года назад

FM3 is very likely be replaced by FM3 markII with the same 4 cores DSP (same also as the quad cortex)

@AA-ih6kt 3 года назад

lol...doubtful

@mikezimmerman5633 3 года назад

😂 WHAT!!!

@berndkiltz 3 года назад

The thing is: As the Editors for the devices ars so good, you will never need to put the device on the desktop - like QC or Headrush ;)

@r.llynch4124 3 года назад

Yep, Fractal editor is the best. QC has a long way to develop but it will get there in a few years.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

I do agree...the editor of the Fractal is fantastic!

@fabiol.9161 2 года назад

Secondo me adesso la proposta è completa...se uno non usa 2 amp 3 delay ecc l fm3 va benissimo considerato che dal punto di vista sonoro sono uguali. L axe iii lo vedo più da studio e l fm9 per un uso live per chi già prima aveva pedalboard complesse im cui magari era od è abituato a fare il tip tap fra i vari pedali.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Ciao Fabio, concordo... Grazie del messaggio e per aver condiviso la tua opinione!

@Vazmusic 2 года назад

IS there any sonic difference in the Fm3 or FM9

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi Vienne, no difference in terms of sound, they are both using the same algorithms. Thank you for your question!

@lasv155 2 года назад

jigging lol lmaoooo . nobody correct him please

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

😀

@GuitarsAndSynths 3 года назад

Neither get the FX III with footswitch/pedal

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!

@jesusgrind1442 2 года назад

Which one has a better pc?? Fm9 or axe fx 2 xl ???? These are my two options to choose

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, you mean the application for controlling the pedalboard from a computer? They are pretty much the same. Thank you for your message!

@jesusgrind1442 2 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr I mean the processing capacity of each unit, for example, how many amps and pedals can I put in the effects chain without reaching 80% of the unit's capacity?

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, as far as I understood, the FM9 has double the power of the FM3, therefore you can build much more complex effects signal chains in the FM9. In the "Fractal Audio Block guide" that you can find in the Fractal web site, there is the list of effect blocks and the max number that you can load for each Fractal product. Thank you for your message!

@jesusgrind1442 2 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr so, the fm9 is better than de axe fx 2?

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, in my opinoin yes, as even the FM3 is better than the FX2, for instance the fx II does not have the Cygnus FW upgrade. Thank you for your message.

@christelhall9379 2 года назад

Why FM9 is longer life span?

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Because it is more powerful, therefore I guess it will be enough powerful to receive more firmware upgrades. Thank you for your question.

@user-on8rf1yf4g 3 года назад

If FM9 were on the free market, then sales of Line 6 Helix would have fallen seriously ... and again, waiting for a year for them to appear on the free market is an unpleasant prospect. I'd rather change my FM3 to Ax FXlll

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion and experience!

@zawaxe123 2 года назад

is fm9 or fm3 have a looper?

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Yes, thank you for your message!

@megadave9941 2 года назад

I can't even get an FX 9 ..the fm3 is the only available

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

The FM9 has been announced few weeks ago...it is gonna require some time before being available. Thank you for your message!

@_Melos 2 года назад

I think the FM3 can have 1 amp with 2 cabs.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi, in the "Fractal Audio Block guide" there is written that "speaker cab simulation..." are max 2 for the FX III and the FM9 and 1 for the FM3. Therefore I understand that you can load only one cab block at the time in the FM3. Another think to mention is that in 1 cab block, you can load 2 IRs (also in the FM3). Thank you for your message!

@_Melos 2 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr Noted. Thank you.

@vilorenz 3 года назад

Macchine impressionanti. Dovessi prendene una sceglierei l'FM9, più completo e poi adoro le pedaliere con tanti bottoni...... Poi se si prende l'fm3 e la sua pedaliera di espansione, non credo si spenda poi molto meno.

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 года назад

Grazie Lorenzo, giuste considerazioni. Lato mio preferisco avere una soluzione maggiormente "componibile", ovvero se mi servono più bottoni li aggiungo, ma viceversa posso tenere una pedaliera compatta e leggera. Grazie ancora!

@kennytseguitar8574 3 года назад

I would buy AXE3 instead of buying FM9 for 1999Euros.............

@pauliusmscichauskas558 3 года назад

You'd have to add the price of footswitches to the Axe FX price. Also, medical bills for your back, for carrying heavy stuff.

@FedericoFavaro 2 года назад

@@pauliusmscichauskas558 Can confirm the medical bills, even the good old axe fx ultra is freaking heavy, and that's a 2 rack unit, while the FX3 is a 3 rack unit!

@pauliusmscichauskas558 2 года назад

@@FedericoFavaro When Axe FX 3 was announced, the first thought was "Aww... my Axe FX 2 is not the best modeller anymore... sad". Seconds thought was "Ok. I don't want it. Way Too large". And i was perfectly happy with my Axe FX 2, till FM3 was announced and that's exactly what I wanted...

@FedericoFavaro 2 года назад

@@pauliusmscichauskas558 Totally get you man, it's a great unit and it sounds awesome! I would have bought it myself but my turn in the waiting list came up while I was abroad so I ended up not being able to get it

@Hozzle1138 2 года назад

I just bought the FM3 and the FC6 3 months ago..... Feck sake Fractal.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

Hi David, if I can add something I would say: we have to wait and see how long is the waiting list for the FM9...also considering the chip shortage, it could take a long time to be able to get an FM9. Tone wise they are the same and if you need more footswitches maybe you can add an external midi controller...just opinions.. Thank you for sharing...

@Hozzle1138 2 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr hey Leo.... haven't gigged in 18 months over this madness. Was gigging for 32 years before this and got rid of my axe fx3 for the convenience of the fm3 for live.... have I made a mistake? Just about to start gigging again this month.. can't wait. I love the channel buddy.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 года назад

In my opinion you have not done a mistake...for me the power of the FM3 is fine also for gigging...I just need some extra footswitch that I can easily add with a midi controller.... I'm super happy that you like the channel!!! Good luck for you next gigs!!!!

@Hozzle1138 2 года назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr cheers buddy