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Frame fixing tip for close to the edge fixing. (timber stud to block wall) 

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In this video I show how to use a Fischer style frame fixing to fix a timber stud close the edge of a blockwork wall.

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@jackellisonuk
@jackellisonuk 3 года назад
These are the best kind of tips! So simple yet something I had never thought about 👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Jack?. Its sometimes the simplest things that get overlooked.🤪 Thanks for your comment.
@jackellisonuk
@jackellisonuk 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter no problem thanks for the generous knowledge sharing 👏
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@@jackellisonuk You're welcome.🤩
@errolharriott2889
@errolharriott2889 3 года назад
that's a very good tip, lets have more like this Sir.. every little tip counts...
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Errol. Thanks for your comment. These are only small little things that I mostly forget I'm doing.😝 Cheers
@stephencarlisle3743
@stephencarlisle3743 3 года назад
Love it . 55yr old and I’m still learning . Great tip 👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Stephen. I'm catching you up mate.😝 Thanks for your comment.😎 Cheers.
@vicinglis3736
@vicinglis3736 3 года назад
agree, never stop learning this guy is so easy to watch
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@@vicinglis3736 😎 Hi Vic.
@101alexs
@101alexs 3 года назад
Had never occurred to me when using these type of fixings before. Excellent heads up on that👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Alex. 99% of the time its irrelevant which way you put them in, there's just the odd time that time that isn't.🤩 Thanks for you comment.👍
@1_MartinFlanagan
@1_MartinFlanagan 2 месяца назад
Thank you, great tip. Especially for thermalite style blocks.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Месяц назад
My pleasure 🤩and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@stefanogortaldi3156
@stefanogortaldi3156 2 года назад
fantastic tip...I felt compelled to sign in in order to click a well deserved LIKE - because not many tips are so useful (and so often we need to fix frames near the edge). Great stuff.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 2 года назад
Appreciate your comment Stefano🤩and thanks for like and watching👊Cheers Del
@andrewplatt
@andrewplatt 3 года назад
Good little tip👍 I was waiting for the block to split though 🤣
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
I cant deny Andrew, that there is always a tiny part of me waiting for the block to split every time I do this.😬 Thanks for your comment.👍
@TheTraditionalGolfer
@TheTraditionalGolfer 3 года назад
Best tip ive seen in ages 👌 so simple
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi there. Appreciate you watching and your comment.🤩
@Hew.Jarsol
@Hew.Jarsol 3 месяца назад
Well explained. Like you say these are strong. 2nd best is the T30s!
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 месяца назад
Cheers bud🤩Thanks for your comment👍
@sygad1
@sygad1 3 года назад
never even thought of that, thanks for sharing the tip
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Darren. No sweat mate.👍 Cheers.
@richardbood4795
@richardbood4795 3 года назад
Minor detail, but a top tip..👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Cheers.🤩
@michaellinahan7740
@michaellinahan7740 3 года назад
Richard, sorry I disagree. While it is obvious when the mechanics of the situation are pointed out it is something I had never considered so for me it is a great tip.
@richardbood4795
@richardbood4795 3 года назад
@@michaellinahan7740 Hi Michael.. When saying minor detail, I meant it as something very few people would even consider to look for in that scenario , which makes it such a good tip..👍🏻
@michaellinahan7740
@michaellinahan7740 3 года назад
@@richardbood4795 sorry Richard I misunderstood your comment. As the kidywinks say "my bad"
@richardbood4795
@richardbood4795 3 года назад
@@michaellinahan7740 No worries..👍🏻👍🏻
@jonnyhifi
@jonnyhifi 2 года назад
what a smart observation I've never thought about . thank you.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 2 года назад
Hi Johnny. Pretty simple, but can make or break a fixings success 💪 Thanks for watching 😎
@vespagd67
@vespagd67 3 года назад
Great tip never gave it a thought what way they expand will remember that cheers 👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Gary. Its pretty much the same for most nylon plugs. Thanks for your comment.👍 Cheers
@vespagd67
@vespagd67 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter correct never looked to see which way they have gone in will use your tip 👍
@pdashs5810
@pdashs5810 3 года назад
That Sir, is a great little tip👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi there. Thanks for watching.😎
@manayconstruction5861
@manayconstruction5861 3 года назад
I like it! Especially the 'these fixings aren't free' comment👍👍.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi there. They are pretty reasonably priced, but still cant waste them.🤪 Thanks for your comment.👍
@davidbetts9587
@davidbetts9587 Год назад
Awesome. Very useful. Thank you
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
Thanks for watching David👍Cheers Del
@TYLERCONSTRUCTION
@TYLERCONSTRUCTION 3 года назад
Excellent tip 👍👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Cheers Tyler.😀
@cr-ew8od
@cr-ew8od 3 года назад
So simple! So clever
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
😎👍
@sharesgames9546
@sharesgames9546 Год назад
Wish all tradesmen were as competent as you...
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
Thank you SG🤩Cheers Del
@liftfan2
@liftfan2 Год назад
Wow! Just when I thought I knew it all ....
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
Hi LC🖐It's only a small thing, but can definitely make a difference👊Cheers Del
@bartbug1
@bartbug1 3 года назад
Great tip mate
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Cheers bud.😎
@darrenmaloney761
@darrenmaloney761 3 года назад
Cracking tip but most rough arse site joiners would nail it with the paslode infact most don't own a sds drill I know of..
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Darren. I've seen what you're saying on sites that I've been doing specialist installations on.😭 Thanks for your comment👍.
@graemesmith8509
@graemesmith8509 2 года назад
Great tip 😁👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 2 года назад
Cheers Graeme🤗Thanks for watching
@stephenwatson1873
@stephenwatson1873 3 года назад
Great tip thank you
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
No worries Stephen. Thanks for watching.🤩
@bartbug1
@bartbug1 3 года назад
Great tip thsnks
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Cheers Bartbug.👍
@bobpreston5113
@bobpreston5113 3 года назад
Nice one 👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Thanks Bob.🤩
@RollCorruption
@RollCorruption 3 года назад
Perfect, going to be using some of these today and tomorrow for the first time... My only worry... There's a steel gas pipe right under the slab where regs have insisted I put fixings. I swear they are trying to kill me.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Crikey mate, you need to tread very carefully there😣 Good luck🤞😎
@lesterdewey7644
@lesterdewey7644 3 года назад
Great Tip. When you give these tips out is it possible to say what size fitting and where you sourced them from. I'm sure people earn money from doing that sort of thing. Thanks anyways
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Lester. I'll try and remember to give a few more details.👍 Cheers.
@1starshot
@1starshot 3 года назад
Great tip. Never really thought about it until now. Are those frame fixings good enough for fire door frames or are there special non plastic ones? Cheers.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Paul. I wouldn't be able to say for certain if these would be acceptable for fixing fire door frames, but I've never seen a spec that says to use anything specific for this job.👍 Cheers.
@1starshot
@1starshot 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter Hi TT, thanks for reply. As the frames have to be sealed around with fire mastic I don't suppose it really matters. By the time the fire has burned through that or the frame, if you 'aint out the building you're already dead ☠.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@@1starshot You're dead right Paul.😜
@1starshot
@1starshot 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter Watched this last night, the kit comes with plastic fixings. I've got some fire doors & frames to fit for Wetherspoons & Premier Inns/Whitbread's, they stipulate no fire foam as used in this video, fire mastic only. Toolbox Talk: Installing Timber Fire Doorsets October 2018 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--DFefse4CwA.html
@harryjames7774
@harryjames7774 Год назад
Do you have any tips if you are using these fixings on a rendered wall where you can’t see the bricks and mortar?
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
Hi Harry🖐AllI would do is orient the fixing correctly if you are close to the edge of the wall👍(if you are well inside the edges, then the fixing should work wherever you place it) 😎 Cheers Del
@punterjac8695
@punterjac8695 Год назад
Just wanted your opinion if one could fix a 10g screw into a 9g wall plug? Thanks
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
Hi there🖐I'm unfamiliar with gauge diameters, but as long as the screw diameter is smaller that the hole for the plugs diameter, then it will be fine👍Cheers Del
@punterjac8695
@punterjac8695 Год назад
@@thetallcarpenter Thanks for this. So, the shank diameter of the screw has to smaller than the diameter of hole drilled by the masonry bit for the wall plug or the diameter of the opening on the wall plug? What I mean is if it is ok to use a screw that is around 60mm in length and 4.8mm in shank diameter into a wall plug that is inserted into a 25mm hole that was drilled using a 6mm masonry bit into a brick wall to attach a 1800 mm timber paling that is 19mm in thickness. Initially I attached 6 screws from the timber paling into the brick wall (that is around 750mm in height) to fasten the timber paling with a 50mm screw that had a shank diameter around 4.2mm. However, when it is very windy some of the screws along with the 25mm wall plug come loose. So, I was wondering if removing the 50mm screw and replacing this with a 60mm screw would get me a more secure connection for the timber paling to the brick. Thanks for your input.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
@punterjac8695 I would use 5x60 screws into red plugs, (these go into a 6mm hole), to fix 25mm battens to a wall👍That will be super secure and pull out any twists/bows on the timber💪
@punterjac8695
@punterjac8695 Год назад
@@thetallcarpenter Thanks for the advice.🙂
@rambofpv4402
@rambofpv4402 Год назад
Thanks, just subbed 👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
Thanks for watching🤩and for subscribing🤗Cheers Del
@rambofpv4402
@rambofpv4402 Год назад
@@thetallcarpenter hi Del. Where are you based in the UK mate? Nowhere near Shropshire are you by any chance?
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
@Rambo FPV I'm over in East Anglia, (Cambridgeshire), but do get over your way for mountain biking and rowing regattas at Ironbridge👍
@rambofpv4402
@rambofpv4402 Год назад
@@thetallcarpenter ah yeah it’s pretty good around here for that! Was just wondering work wise! 😅👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
@@rambofpv4402 I only work within 20 minutes of where I live nowadays😉
@leeedwards3783
@leeedwards3783 3 года назад
Great tip Sir. Is this a standard fisher hammer fixing? What size fixing do you use for 4 x 2 sawn timber. Your using cls there which is thinner but what ratio is there for fixings of screw in wood and screw is masonry. Thank you. Love the videos
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Lee. These are standard Fischer fixings, but not hammer in type. I would still be happy using 100mm long fixing for 2" timber straight into masonry. (ie. about 50mm of fixing in the masonry).👍 Glad you like the videos and thanks for watching them.😎
@leeedwards3783
@leeedwards3783 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter hi. Thanks for the quick reply and information. Funny, as I have driven around half of London today trying to get some 120mm hammer fixings. Excited to make and use your door lining jig next week. Could you give an idea of what size rough opening for doors? What gap to play with? Thank you
@leeedwards3783
@leeedwards3783 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter you are a gentleman. Thank you so much
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@@leeedwards3783 Glad I could be of service Lee.🤩
@garvielloken3929
@garvielloken3929 3 года назад
Wicked!
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Garviel.🖐 Thanks for watching.👍
@jamesbrookes5614
@jamesbrookes5614 3 года назад
How much space to you account for with the dot and dab behind the plasterboard. Do you allow for 10mm or 12mm. This mans the stud will overtake the wall in your video by 10mm or 12mm subject to the dap depth you allow once the dabs are compressed.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi James. I always allow for a dot and dabbed wall, (with 12.5mm board), to be about 25mm. All the tacking is done first including ceilings and studwork, leaving the sticking of boards to the blockwork till last.😎 (as you suggest, the stud would be almost buried if the dot and dabbing was done first). Cheers.👍
@jamesbrookes5614
@jamesbrookes5614 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter if I have understood correctly, the stud sticks out 12.5mm from the block face. This then allows 12.5mm dab to block and 12.5mm plasterboard which makes 25mm?
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@@jamesbrookes5614 The stud is 38mm thick. The thickness of adhesive is 12.5mm and the board is 12.5mm, (25mm total). If you were to stick the walls before tacking the studwork, there would be 13mm of the stud sticking out.👍
@mintymintygogo
@mintymintygogo 3 месяца назад
Spent all morning doing exactly the same thing- same fixings , same blocks but got through a whole packet and none of them gripped. Did everything you said including drill not impact driver. Why?????
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 месяца назад
Hi there🖐Sorry to hear you are not having success with your fixings😬and nothing obvious springs to mind🤔 I only use tge Fischer fixings where the sleeves only have one split in, are your fixing the same🤔Cheers Del
@mintymintygogo
@mintymintygogo 3 месяца назад
Thank you for the message. Not sure what the blocks I'm drilling into are called but they aren't concrete. I can drill the pilot hole with a wood drill bit. Breeze blocks- is that what they're called. Anyway I assume the the fixing is expanding as it should but it's eroding the block substrate and getting loose rather gripping. I've filled the hole with No More Nails before putting the fixing in and seems to be holding. If I was to do it again in those blocks I would use a drill bit 1mm smaller than recommended. I used 8 mm fixings and an 8 mm masonry bit which I would do in a concrete block but didn't seem to work in these blocks.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 месяца назад
@@mintymintygogo Yep, sounds strange that you have struggled here, as you seem to be doing everything right🤔
@tashtant
@tashtant 3 года назад
Makes sense
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
👍 Cheers
@johnbradley4881
@johnbradley4881 3 года назад
hi is it a 1omm bit for 10 mm frame fixing only asking as i used some today and they were bending with a 10mm hole cheers
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi John. What did you use to drill the hole through the timber?. Anything other than a 10mm wood bit, (spade or auger), will cause the nylon plug to bind in the timber.👍
@johnbradley4881
@johnbradley4881 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter hi there i went straight through ledger board with 10mm masonary sds bit can that reall y be the difference ?
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@@johnbradley4881 Bingo John. The sds drill leaves a fairly dirty hole in the timber as it smashes the wood fibres rather than cutting them, and this is enough to make it almost impossible to hammer the plug through it. I always drill the timber first with a decent wood specific bit first and then the plug slips straight in.😵 Cheers.
@johnbradley4881
@johnbradley4881 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter thankyou for your instant reply i will be trying it tomorow cheers
@pjeball
@pjeball 2 года назад
I can confirm this is the case. Helping a mate yesterday and sidn't like one of my pre drilled (wood) hole positions once presented to the wall. So, left that fixing til last and re-did it with the SDS in situ. It went in but it put up a fight!
@Wayne55231
@Wayne55231 Год назад
was that a 10mm fixing?
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter Год назад
Yes Jano👍
@kds471
@kds471 3 года назад
Do you guys not use tapcons?
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi there. I'm people do use them, but I stick with these as they are a great all round fixing.🤩 Cheers.
@darrenroche9225
@darrenroche9225 3 года назад
I use the concrete frame fixings now much handier, well I think.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Hi Darren. I'm not a fan of concrete screws, but that's maybe because I'm not using them properly. I can never seem to get them to pull the timer really tight to the concrete/blockwork. They are definitely quicker and cheaper though.👍 Thanks for your comment mate.🤩
@darrenroche9225
@darrenroche9225 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter I know what you mean but I seem to get away with it, but each to their own, you keep the videos coming
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@@darrenroche9225 Appreciate your comments as always Darren.🤩 Cheers mate.👍
@darrenroche9225
@darrenroche9225 3 года назад
@@thetallcarpenter they are enjoyable videos
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@@darrenroche9225 Appreciate that mate.😎
@SuperWayneyb
@SuperWayneyb 3 года назад
👍🤓👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Cheers Wayne.🤩
@mark3995
@mark3995 3 года назад
👌👌👌👌👌
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
👍🤩
@EireFirst2024
@EireFirst2024 3 года назад
You'd think common sense would work this 1 out, but as they say tis not that common ( anymore) 👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
😜
@JakeBM4
@JakeBM4 3 года назад
That's soft block, just get the 1st fix paslode out! Just kidding!
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
You naughty boy.🤪
@petergouvignon8048
@petergouvignon8048 3 года назад
that was the plug in not the screw! why not fix into joint?
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
👍
@francismarion4450
@francismarion4450 3 года назад
Hard to believe people still attaching white wood to masonry.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Yeah, still doing it Francis.👍Cheers
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@Francis Marion Why not?. 👍
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@Francis Marion Hi Francis. If there's moisture in the blockwork, I think the timber absorbing it would be the least of anyone's worries. These are dot and dabbed plasterboard straight onto the blockwork, so moisture soaking into that would be a disaster.😵. If I'm honest, its not something I'm aware of that causes a problem, but can see your point.👍 Cheers.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@Francis Marion Hi Francis. I really appreciate your comments and its really cool to learn about construction processes and the ways that certain problems are dealt with in different parts of the world. Here in the UK the whole floor structure is concrete over DPM. (Damp Proof Membrane). The internal and external block and brick skins, (walls), are built on a DPC, (damp proof course), to stop any rising damp, and are a certain distance above ground level. Damp penetration of the external brick skin is virtually non existent even when its exposed to perlonged driving rain, so we just don't get a problem with external moisture in the internal skin. Bizzarely, the most probable cause of moisture in the external skin is from humidity generated within the building from people just living in it!!. But again, this is virtually imeasurable. Thanks again for your comments.👍 Cheers.
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
@Francis Marion Cheers mate.🤩
@popcornlover948
@popcornlover948 3 года назад
Great tip mate
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Cheers.😎
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