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Frameless to Shameless DIY Jeep Cherokee Frame Stiffeners 

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How to create your own frame stiffeners using 3x3 angle iron. On my XJ.
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Комментарии : 38   
@redneckswitwheels
@redneckswitwheels 3 года назад
I live locally to affordable offroad and I am building my xj using g alot of thier parts. I also have a decent shop. Videos likes yours are great for me but bad for my wallet lol. I am currently stiffening my frame from front to back. Also 6.5 long arm! And possibly rear coilovers once I recover from long nights of fourwheeling! Thank you for the channel
@rondaszkiewicz2436
@rondaszkiewicz2436 4 года назад
So, does anyone living in the salt belt do this? Here in the Midwest taking things to bare metal and creating places where snow/water/salt can hide seems completely nightmarish.
@michaelg6890
@michaelg6890 4 года назад
Weld-through primer works wonders. Look into it, you'll thank me later.
@MSpeedThree
@MSpeedThree 6 лет назад
Thanks for showing this can be done without buying a kit for $500.
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 5 лет назад
Thanks. I plan on making my own for the front section too
@jackbower8671
@jackbower8671 4 года назад
Same, I should be able to do this myself so why not and save the cash and be more satisfied with what I made.
@hayzersolar
@hayzersolar Год назад
ok the xj is not all one unit. the frame is laid first. the 2 floor pans are welded to the frame. then the body is welded to the floor pans. so not all one unit.
@eros20V
@eros20V 6 лет назад
No need for weld through primer ? Good job btw.
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 6 лет назад
I have never used the stuff before, but some sort of protection underneath would have been a good idea.
@05glisedan
@05glisedan 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing. I picked up same angle long time ago. Lacked to motivation to complete install. May give it a try in the spring. Good job on your install.
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 5 лет назад
Thanks brother. Been planning on making my own for the front section too, but haven't gotten around to it either.
@Raiderz4life20
@Raiderz4life20 4 года назад
What settings did you run on your welder and or setup if you don’t mind me asking looking for a starting point. Thanks
@ChasWG
@ChasWG 5 лет назад
So hopefully you used some sort of seam sealer. Why not finish the welds and close it up completely? It would only make it more solid and stronger than leaving all the stress on those welds. It also seems like a lot of places that water can penetrate between the frame rail and your stiffener. Leading to an eventual rusting out in those spots.
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 5 лет назад
I have done a lot of reading on this topic and it seems like there was a consensus on forums like NAXJA that stitch welding on the un was important because the metal is thin and brittle. Large amounts of heat can really affect it structurally. I'm no engineer but I thought it made sense so stitch weld it is. The thing I do regret was not using some weld through primer......
@TossinDirt
@TossinDirt 2 года назад
AWESOME, nice video. U've boosted my confidence. ThankU. Michigan out.
@eros20V
@eros20V 6 лет назад
I want to do something similar on a smaller unibody car.
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 6 лет назад
Do it! Pretty straight forward. Maybe use lighter material. I used 3/16 but honestly might be over kill. Most frames are prob not that thick
@keniferusxj7047
@keniferusxj7047 5 лет назад
Seems cheaper and less time consuming..to buy the mid kit for 180$..then the front for 80$..plus it’s one piece..less welding on the uni frame..
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 5 лет назад
Definitely not cheaper but yes certainly less time. But using angle wraps the entire channel making it much stronger than a kit, and was needed for the crossmember I built. Buying kits is certainly easier but it is possible to diy and make it specifically for your builds needs.
@gatoroffroadOR
@gatoroffroadOR 5 лет назад
Been thinking about doing this to my zj alot more lately.
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 5 лет назад
I think if your planning on tying in rock sliders, or cross members or even a cage it's pretty important to strengthen up the unibody.
@gatoroffroadOR
@gatoroffroadOR 5 лет назад
@@MuddyBeards4X4 im going pretty extreme on the build so to skip this simple step would probably be a downffall
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 5 лет назад
Well then git r done. I bet they sell kits but I just like making stuff myself. Never really looked at a ZJ frame but I'm sure it's similar.
@edzimdahl1158
@edzimdahl1158 2 года назад
There a company found that has an entire frame stiffening kit, front, mid, and rear, both sides, paid 254 + tax & shipping, fabbed my sliders, and rough country 4inch longarm for zj
@dyingtolive076
@dyingtolive076 Год назад
@@edzimdahl1158 what the link or website? I'm looking to do the same to my ZJ
@meagnificentmusic1169
@meagnificentmusic1169 2 года назад
Thank you!
@frankj2458
@frankj2458 4 года назад
You guys are MIG’ing it - I would too if I had the option. All I have is a TIG and stick welder. Normally I’d TIG it, but I’m thinking if I use the stick welder I won’t have to remove all the paint from the undercarriage/weld points. I know stick isn’t generally recommended with thin material, but I think some thin 6013, welded on favoring the angle iron rather than the sheet, would be ok. Any recommendations?
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад
I honestly dont have much experience with stick. But I know people use this process to weld stiffiners all the time. I think it would be fine if like you said, favor the thicker material
@frankj2458
@frankj2458 4 года назад
Muddy Beards 4X4 thanks man, love the show!
@rickytonnesen5520
@rickytonnesen5520 5 лет назад
What long arm kit are you running?
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 5 лет назад
I built it using some barnes enduro joints, a piece of 2x4 steel for cross member, and dom tube for the arms.
@randyanderson6110
@randyanderson6110 4 года назад
Whay good are those stiffeners if they're not welded to the floor?
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад
Still adds strength to the rails..... also provides mounting for rock sliders, cross members, etc... most companies stiffiners do not attach to the thin sheet metal of the floor boards.
@withwhatyougot7993
@withwhatyougot7993 3 года назад
hell yea good stuff
@dave8599
@dave8599 3 года назад
technically the Cherokee XJ is a un vehicle
@kd9432
@kd9432 6 лет назад
Need a little better lighting to film
@MuddyBeards4X4
@MuddyBeards4X4 6 лет назад
Yep. Have a lot to learn about making videos...... and probably jeeps too.
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