Hydro Assist the Easy Way

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Hydro assist is now easier and cheaper to set up for your off road vehicle. In this video I will show you how to build hydro assist in your off road rig using the DIY4X front cap that is pre-drilled and tapped. Also utilizing a cheap but functional surplus centers 1.5x6 hydraulic cylinder ram, and lastly a tube clamp from Barnes 4WD.
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@dhubbard 3 года назад

Great video! So, I just sheared off my gbox shaft and was left without any steering at all - who knew that that those 40's under 10" of lift would stress the system so much. LOL Luckily the failure occurred in a neighbors driveway and not on the freeway. So, I am ordering up a Red Hat and going to finally do the project. (I have had the ram for over a year and been putting off the project.) Everyone forgets that hydraulic asst is also a safety thing. Had I lost steering on the hwy with my kids in the rig - I would not have completely lost steering. I appreciate the video as it was more liken to a step-by-step with some great insight. Seriously, it is much appreciated!

@carlsandvik2893 4 года назад

You can't go wrong with DIY4X. Kert has amazing products and total over engineered beef! Great video.

@NoNaSRT4 4 года назад

Thanks for posting this video... great affordable way to go hydro without breaking the bank! Keep up the good work and stay healthy!

@SarahSmith-hd8kd 4 года назад

American hose and fitting out in Kent Wa can make those hose for you quality craftsmanship. Nice job!

@6daemonic6 4 года назад

Thanks I was looking around to figure out how to get around $100 psc hoses

@mike86mike 4 года назад

Don't worry dude. The video is great. If anyone can't do this upgrade with this as a guideline he has no right being around a project car anyways. Thanks for taking the time and show this!

@permagrin8742 4 года назад

Putting 38’s on my Jeep. So this was on my mind anyway. Makes it cheap and easy. Nice simple vid, like it

@danhambrick6331 4 года назад

Thanks for posting.$250 is a steal.I will keep this in mind if I ever need to go hydro assist....

@helm9981 4 года назад

great vid man, i like it shows what you need to show, i just tapped my box wish i would have know about this would have been way easier!!! i followed Bleeping jeeps video Lol works but took me like 4H to do. this would have taken me like 1H. lol

@73challenger86 3 года назад

Great stuff. Always thought the $800 steering box mods were a rip off. Thanks as this will make my LT powered JKUR better to drive off road.

@rickmarquart3277 4 года назад

Thanks Robby, hope the move goes well. Ready to see a trail video. 👍🏻

@cookymudstar 4 года назад

Brilliant thanks for posting best economy Hydra assist video ever I'm gonna do the wife's Jeep and my f250 been looking for good price diy like this thank you so much 🤘

@burden669 3 года назад

Sir you dropped this 👑 ...your video is amazing straight forward and educational

@MuddyBeards4X4 3 года назад

Thanks brother

@SuperRoyalone 4 года назад

What length hoses did you use?

@mudmaster99 4 года назад

Williams Oil and Filter is the shizzle. They made the hoses for my hydro assist.

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

Lol I have mixed experiences there.

@Mr_Everyman 4 года назад

A 45° fitting at the end of that line on the front of the gear box would have allowed you to not cut anything and would have made it a lot easier to route down. To clarify, a 45°on the line to connect to the 90° fitting on the front cover

@billpickelheimer8142 3 года назад

If I were you I would not use a single shear bolt on the Trac bar bracket it's going to rip that plate right off. I would suggest putting a long bolt thru the back bracket with a nice steel tube between the brackets that is long enuff to go thru the ram and add a bracket that will weld to the first bracket you drilled . Just my thoughts and suggestions, good info on the ease of install, God bless you

@aaronheckman7563 4 года назад

This is awesome! Never knew that cap existed. Definitely on my list to do! Thanks!

@one4x4nut 4 года назад

I know its not full hydro but I'd probably add a tab and make the ram to track bar bracket double sheer. I also used one of those tube clamps for my drag link on my Bronco but for "safety" I ran a bead on each side but not on it so in case it slipped it wouldn't move much and end up screwing me when I needed it most.. LoL

@bradbob589 4 года назад

I wish I would have known about that steering box cap before I went through the hassle of tapping my box!

@DWBmotorsports 4 года назад

Same lol

@richardederer5331 Год назад

Awesome idea. Thanks for the cool tip

@jakematthews6982 4 года назад

Good video but your track bar/drag link angles make me cringe. Since the track bar is fixed at that angle you can use a different pitman arm with less drop to get it to be more parallel with the track bar. The way your whole Jeep moves up and down while cycling the steering will drastically decrease or completely disappear when the drag link and track bar are as parallel as you can get them. You can also move the frame-side track bar mount down to match the dropped pitman arm. Either way you do it is fine. Whichever works best for you.

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

I have wanted to move the track bar down on the frame side. I addressed it on previous videos. Just havent gotten to it

@handduggraverdronline Год назад

Him drilling that first hole was cringe

@stevemartinism 4 года назад

Wow man that was such a good mod and you did well explaining it . Thanks a bunch.

@jonesleonard756 4 года назад

Will this particular cap work for a jeep jk gear box?

@davewoodard1 4 года назад

Jones Leonard wondering the same thing....

@brucea822 2 года назад

can you give an update on how this has held up these last two years?

@RideRevival_Outdoor 4 года назад

good stuff, thanks for finishing the video out!

@kundrew1990 5 месяцев назад

great vid thanks

@noelscammell662 4 года назад

Welding that bolt to the clamp. If high tensile bolt was used Youve taken the tensie strength out of the bolt. You either need to get it heat treated or get it machined soo a stud goes into the clamp and use loctite than welding the bolt

@roberttorres6689 4 года назад

Just this to my 98 tj it works great it was easy to do I didnt take my steering box off the jeep I just unbolted it it swung done and I didnt take the top plate off the box I just unbolted it turned it and taped the exposed top of the box drilled and tapped it thankyou very much for this info much better than spending the big bucks on a kit this works great

@davyleupz 4 года назад

Well thanks, another project on the to do list. 😩 Lol. I will be going hydro now, I just couldn’t afford those aftermarket kit prices. Great how to, thanks bro!!! 🤘

@chrispowell6673 Год назад

Would swapping in the WJ power steering pump be a good addition with hydro steer? Getting ready to do this with your instructions! Great video!!

@carlteyssier6696 3 года назад

So next time, it looks like an extension nipple could be placed between the steering front cap and your 90 deg. ftg thus passing through your forward frame without cutting a large window for the hose bend. Then with a longer hose, re-routing thru another opportunity in your frame to the ram. Just a thought, I might be wrong, However GREAT video and so much knowledge delivered on the steer assist, going to do this. Thank you, and thank you for your source information.

@joshgarcia7148 4 года назад

Great video... totally doing this. Much appreciated! BTW, your links seem to be dead (WIX and Amazon).

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

Thanks for the heads up, fixed them👊🏻

@zacharybarlow3960 4 года назад

Amazing work sourcing the parts and showing us how its done!

@billytugwell48 4 года назад

Anyone that ads hydro assist steering needs to keep in mind while driving in stop and go traffic, that the Jeep will need to be revved a little higher to turn larger tires from a stop. Your adding extra volume for the stock hydraulic pump to fill and pressure up. Took me a while to get used too.

@zoexj4872 4 года назад

Super cool and looks easy enough. Can't wait till you get to use it on the trails! Extra fluid needed? Nice work.

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

I little extra but I did not add a larger reservoir. But if I have heat problems I will probably add a cooler

@Woahitsjurb Год назад

Hey muddy beards, this may seem like a stupid question but does this mean that the xj steering is 6” lock to lock with or without the ram? Like you’re not losing any steering angle with a 6” ram

@kayseacarver4973 2 года назад

Hey muddy beard? Is the mud or poo from going down on your gay jeep buddy's? What's up with the eye liner and JB hair flip? j/k j/k j/k no pun! ANYWAYS wtf is up with this video man. You did all this work and made us all hang on until the very end of the video and for what!? You didn't even demonstrate or test your hydro assist setup! Who the hell does that! WOW

@albertoffroadaddict1096 4 года назад

That hydraulic system can be adapted to the steering box of a nissan patrol gu .. ??

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

Not sure about the front cap. Dont know what box they use

@fomocoloco7172 4 года назад

Love the video I'm saving it on my playlist of upgrades for my TJ. This will work on TJ boxes right? 😂

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

Absolutly

@immelting9834 2 года назад

What about wj boxes ?

@joejimenez5399 10 месяцев назад

How does it run on the road?

@jackson6948 2 месяца назад

At 2:41. When you use that cap the return fluid coming back from the ram is no longer regulated. When coming off a drop off or running into a small obstacle with one tire making contact. It will send the fluid back to your box fast enough to rip the steering wheel out of your hands. The returning pressure will blow that cap in half and out of the front of your box. Ask me how I know.

@duneattack 4 года назад

Really great idea... I have a hemi in my JK, which makes it impossible to upgrade the steering gear. The only thing on the market for a hemi swapped steering gear is a stock, tapped box from PSC for almost $800! Then add several hundred more for their hoses and ram, and weld-on mounts and I was looking at $1500 easily. Have you wheeled yet with your new set up? How much assist do you get and how well is it holding up to being punished??? Thanks again!

@justinchandler5436 11 месяцев назад

Hey I'm trying to buy everything you did in this video so I can do it to mine. But I can't figure out cylinder you bought. I see it says 1.5x6 but I don't see it on there website is there any way you could help me out. Also it be a few years later how well did it all work out do you still have it Your jeep?

@DanielCole 3 года назад

This is pretty awesome. Do you have a video of a review on the trail performance of this setup?

@MuddyBeards4X4 3 года назад

No specific review video, but it has worked out great. I am pretty happy with it. It needs a bigger reservoir is the only thing I need to change

@MrMrsregor 4 года назад

Did it change your steering speed at all ? Have you tried this on the highway and/or trails yet?

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

Not tried in highway. Just around the block and the property. Feels smooth.

@MrMrsregor 4 года назад

Muddy Beards 4X4 cool. Thanks for posting this! I just finished building an xj and only have the steering left to build. Perfect timing and great information! Thank you!

@rtmsound1877 Месяц назад

Unfortunately for anyone watching this in 2024 DIY4X in going out of business.

@gregeverett6557 2 года назад

How long did this setup last you ? Love the video and info.

@Chudsaves Год назад

Those ends caps are useless. Your losing %50 of your power. The lines need to be in the actual ports to work correctly. Unfortunately it costs some money but … do it the right way

@Tanhands36 4 года назад

This is how mine is done. I removed the end cap while it was on the truck.

@guswendt 6 месяцев назад

Is there any problem with mounting the ram to the same hole at the track bar with a long enough bolt ? As long as the bracket for the track bar is secure enough . And maybe even boxed in or gusseted .

@daniellaverty1359 2 года назад

Welding the head of the bolt to the clamshell is a bad idea.. why don’t you drill and tap the clamshell, cut the head off the bolt, thread and weld. That’s just not going to hold up under strain.

@humbertomartinez-j3d 9 месяцев назад

I have a hydraulic steering system with orbitrol in my jeep but a i have to turn my steering wheel many times for the tires to turn, does anyone know why?

@jameslacross3617 3 года назад

How hard was It to get that front cap in? I just tried putting mine on and it’s not going very easily!

@brandon2011dhs 3 года назад

Same issue here did you find a solution? I have tried everything I've milled a good 2/64th off and still hangs on the secondary lip in the gear box. Brand new box for a 97 xj.

@velazquezjaime149 4 года назад

In my case i removed mine because the steering feels way to soft on the hwy jeep din't go strait. i removed now jeep goes nice and Strait again!

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

This is for offroad purposes mostly

@velazquezjaime149 4 года назад

@@MuddyBeards4X4 exacly my point! Lol

@dunsloan2223 4 года назад

You might try adding a degree or two of caster to your alignment. If that does not solve it try a smaller diameter ram.

@p8nflnt 3 года назад

Very cool. Is Hyrdo assist any good on the highway?

@fullforce581 4 года назад

This was a good write up. But when your using larger tires you'll want to address you actual power steering pump. Also you can add an inline filter to increase volume of fluid. Keeps everything cooler and cleaner.

@DustySteel 2 года назад

How do you address the actual steering pump? Thanks for the filter tip!👍

@Nik-ok9nu Год назад

PSC 1,600 PSI high pressure pump! I used that, paired with their remote-mount reservoir and cooler. My hydro assist steering on my CJ7 holds about a gallon of fluid, steers amazing with my 37's and stays cool! 👍🏼

@mada310 Год назад

@Nik-ok9nu what's the budget version?

@SwampFeet678 3 года назад

Ill be doing this come Summer. Is there anything you would change or do differently if you had to do it again?... Bigger reservoir? Different hydro. gear? Mounting it a different way?... I have a YJ on tons with 37''s and coilovers.

@MuddyBeards4X4 3 года назад

Yes I need more fluid. So a bigger reservoir is on the list. You may need the 8 inch ram for one ton axles as well

@donny6016 3 года назад

Smart! Full of things I never knew existed. Thank you

@nicholasjopin477 Год назад

Looking for what kind of ram that is and I can't find your description below

@TheBeardedJeeper 4 года назад

That’s awesome I might need to copy your setup for my xj build

@marrag1 3 года назад

which direction did that lines have to connect to? I put a PSC ram and it kept on binding no matter which side the hoses where connected to. I kept switching the connections on the cylinder and it kept killing my steering pumps that I had to replace it twice.

@caseyespeseth4306 3 года назад

I’m looking to do this but with a 1 ton swap will this ram work or will I need a longer stroke

@nsmturbo5902 2 года назад

8" stroke for full size axles

@Ryan_Tidwell 4 года назад

What is the bolt on the top cap for? Did you have to remove it to get your 90 degree fitting screwed in?

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

That's the adjustment bolt. My fitting just barely cleared it so I did not have to remove it

@doghouse96zj92 4 года назад

what length did you go with your hydro hoses???

@cencoast_7.340 4 года назад

Just long enough works every time.

@Callelle6251 4 года назад

Those trackbar / drag link angles are awful.

@V1NCH1INZ0 4 года назад

Atrocious

@GrimResistance 4 года назад

I wonder if you used a street 90 and a 45 if it would clear the front crossmember.

@cencoast_7.340 4 года назад

Could be a regular 90 not a street 90 couldn't it?

@wintermachine 3 года назад

does it work to do power steering, hydro assist steering, AND hydro assist brakes?

@LeonGiafaglione 2 года назад

How is that ram holding up? Would you recommend it still?

@oby-1607 9 месяцев назад

Wow. This is just what I was looking for to improve the steering on my '94 F-350 Crew Cab. You made it look too easy.

@robertweinstein6441 Год назад

The only thing that would make your rig any better if it was blue

@HywayHauler 4 года назад

Was this done a Jeep box or Chevy box?

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

Jeep

@HywayHauler 4 года назад

Muddy Beards 4X4 The link shows its for a full size Chevy. Maybe same box??? When I did my YJ, I drilled both holes near the input shaft, not the cap for the sector shaft or the plug. I want to do my current YJ, and if this would work on that box it’d be way less time.

@Speedboat8724 4 года назад

Fake Parts it’s for a Chevy but they r the same size so it’ll work

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

Selected the option for small saginaw box. That's the one you want

@richardf5856 4 года назад

Does this power assist slow down the steering? I about to install a similar system in my 90 k5 blazer. Also I need a 7" throw ram to Accommodate the travel tie-rod with a stock push/ pull steering for my stock height springs, and 33" tires. You are an asset to the asset to the off-road community. Thank you.

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

I did not notice any changes in the steering speed at all, and sounds like a cool build

@760rudogg 4 года назад

The link for the end cap says it's for 73 gmc steering box. Will this work on a factory xj steering box?

@GrimResistance 4 года назад

@18:33 he's says you want the one that fits the smaller saginaw box. It's 01671K on the website.

@760rudogg 4 года назад

@@GrimResistance awesome, thanks bud!

@cencoast_7.340 4 года назад

It works on all steering boxes w/major welding/machining.

@FMJeeping 4 года назад

Yeah buddy!!!! you just made my day. Badass Robby

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

👍

@emilysoule6567 2 года назад

Great video I plan to help my husband with his on his Dana 60 98 ford ranger on 42s with the 4.0 and I’m taking in all the info I can :)

@thetabletnonya948 3 года назад

Nice setup! Does it handle any differently on the street?

@MuddyBeards4X4 3 года назад

Nope nice and stable on the street

@krich404 3 года назад

What length of hoses did you use?

@bobbyfreitas2466 2 года назад

I work across the street from Williams oil and filter. So does this set up also work for my yj steering box?

@MuddyBeards4X4 2 года назад

Yes it should.

@admirbegic3628 3 года назад

How easily are you able to move the steering wheel compared to before? Im on 33s and its a dog. My dads steering on his mercedes I can move the wheel with 1 finger is this similar?

@ohsee1346 4 года назад

Diy 4x Is out of the caps for this install... Wondering if you can drill and tap the factory end cap, or is it too thin?

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

Ya I think it's too thin.

@mr.caceres305 3 года назад

Does he ever mention what size the cap is? 3" or 3.5"?

@MuddyBeards4X4 3 года назад

Yes. For a jeep you want 3 inch

@daniellaverty1359 2 года назад

That is a cool cap idea, but to me that puts your line and fitting at risk. Especially steep approach angles or just rocks ect.

@ronward7508 2 года назад

Do you have the order number of the ram you have ordered

@dreteyete7305 3 года назад

Couldnt you use a T off your existing power steering lines...?

@MuddyBeards4X4 3 года назад

I wouldn't recommend that

@hdradar Год назад

How did this hold up over time? Did the pump hold up?

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

It has been on jack stands for almost two years now, but worked well before that. Full lock with ram fully extended the pump would run dry on fluid and make noise. So it needs more fluid capacity. Bigger res or cooler and it should be fine

@hdradar Год назад

@@MuddyBeards4X4 my pump is doing the same thing.

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

I am going to use a larger reservoir. Maybe a wj pump because it has a larger reservoir

@TheRightLine 4 года назад

Make sure your tie rod ram mount is double sheer.

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

It's not but I can definitely do that

@TheRightLine 4 года назад

@@MuddyBeards4X4 I would recommend it.

@philliprollman7421 Год назад

I have a hydro assist and I need a bracket for my tie rod and wanted to use that style of clamp but everything is saying not intended for hydro assist

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Always worked fine for me. You could add a couple tacks on either side for assurance if you want

@clayzer11 3 месяца назад

What fluid do you run in this kind of set up?

@safetyfirstintexas 2 года назад

Tractor steering wheel has manual pump in the upper unit that allows manual control in case of pump failure. For full hydro.

@joejimenez5399 10 месяцев назад

How did this hold up? What’ the total cost? 10:30

@gmmurn 3 года назад

Just an additional piece of info, that exact ram uses 3/8 orb fittings, if you get 3/8 npt hose fittings, you will need 3/8 male orb x 3/8 female npt adapters which the same company sells.

@edgarpizarroso675 Год назад

On the highway at 70 miles it runs fine

@aplchnmtngoat3800 4 года назад

Figured I would tap the cap and buy the end cap as I was already in the process of rebuilding an s10 box for a steering overhaul. Just make sure you don't tap the 3/8 npt too deep. I did by accident and my cap plug leaks juust slightly. I ordered a different plug in hopes that it will thread deeper and won't leak. Just my $0.02

@jamesandereggen1758 4 года назад

I really like your videos. This one is fantastic. But you really need to fix your trac bar angle. It makes a X compared to your draglink. I know it’s mostly off-road but still. It stuck out in the video

@JudahsTreeFarm Год назад

Is that the S10 steering box?

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

No but the s10 box is the exact same thing so this cap will work

@JudahsTreeFarm Год назад

Awesome thanks!

@Shawnee845 2 года назад

I am looking for a Steering Box for my 2007 Rubicon. where I can just get a cap. Or can I drill out the stock box that comes with the 2007 Rubicon. which way is better.

@MuddyBeards4X4 2 года назад

The JK wranglers have a different style of steering box and I am not aware of a cap that is made. Best bet would be to drill and tap it or fork out the money for an aftermarket set up from PSC

@jessejordan3228 2 года назад

At least 75 of these views are from me watching it preparing to do it ordering these parts awesome video. 👍

@hotshtsr20 4 года назад

The link posted says its for a full-size 73-87 GM. Is this correct for the 97-2001 XJ?

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 года назад

No. Select the smaller option

@tylergtattooeastcoast-tatt8562 3 года назад

Hey man how did drilling the top cap hold up? I’ve never seen anyone do that before. It’s always been in the casting of the housing?

@MuddyBeards4X4 3 года назад

Held up great. No leaks

@tylergtattooeastcoast-tatt8562 3 года назад

@@MuddyBeards4X4 that's good to know. Also , the hose coming from the diy4x cap, what port on the ram did you run that hose to? I'm about to hook my stuff up this week and haven't found any info on hose routing with that setup