Framework 16 vs ThinkPad W530, What Reviewer's Don't Cover: Latency, Decompression, Windows 11

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Highlighting the difference between speed and latency, the ThinkPad W530 shows less latency, while the Framework 16 shows more speed.
The Framework 16 benchmarks much better, but surprisingly with restarts, file decompression, and installing things, there's not as big of a performance increase as there should be after 12 years, though this could be due to Windows 11 being unoptimized by Microsoft.
9:20 Battery Saving Mode on Framework Benchmark

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11 сен 2024

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@mitchib1440 5 месяцев назад

i'm not sure what the test is here. You're testing 2 different computers with 2 completely different versions of Windows. How do you know what is due to the laptop and what's due to the OS?

@UCcdTp7XpCkVLkaRCsDcifFg 2 месяца назад

look at the description

@mitchib1440 2 месяца назад

@@UCcdTp7XpCkVLkaRCsDcifFg I don't know what your point is. This is still not a valid test in any way.

@IanSebryk 4 месяца назад

Win10 vs Win11??? like comparing apples to walnuts. how can you consider that a valid comparison?

@stevenswall 4 месяца назад

No, it's like comparing a sports car to a Toyota Camry and the Camry beating it. Windows 11 on a modern upper midrange to high end CPU machine should beat Windows 10 running on a 12 year old machine.

@IrvanQadri 3 месяца назад

If windows 11 slow on framework, imagine how slow windows 11 on that thinkpad, or imagine how fast windows 10 on that framework

@samir2zk135 2 месяца назад

Can you run them both in Linux?. Probably less BS latency in it.

@ShaneCranor 5 месяцев назад

My framework 16 on windows 11 has significantly less latency mentioned, extracting and installing the latest davinci resolve, while unplugged (and with this youtube video playing and a million firefox tabs open in the background)

@LeoNux-um7tg 4 месяца назад

I almost click the like button but the million tabs stopped me from clicking

@SlinkyBass0815 4 месяца назад

I think the „soft“ fonts on the FW16 come from the upscaling. Does this still happen when you put the scaling to 100% instead of 125% / 150% etc.? I‘m having the same issue with my Dell Inspiron which has a 2k panel. In the end it‘s a windows/software related problem (if the problem is what I think it is)

@Javadamutt 5 месяцев назад

Framework comes into its own when you start speccing up RAM memory. Being able to bring your own reels in pricing no end. I don't understand in this day and age how midrange and high end laptops start with 16GB ram never mind 8GB. Use an Intel MacBook pro, and it doesn't take much to start hammering that 16GB.

@Zack-lr2lo 5 месяцев назад

What has your battery life experience (number of hours and what your workload is) been so far (or if this is a really new purchase, maybe after youve had a few days to use it?) Thanks!

@stevenswall 5 месяцев назад

I need to put the GPU back in but I'm currently getting 6 hours browsing, maybe 5.5 with RU-vid, with the GPU removed if I'm at 2/3 brightness and in power saving mode rather than balanced or performance. With the GPU I couldn't get more than 2:30 even idling.

@Duraputer 5 месяцев назад

The W530 is a nice machine, not as fast as most newer computers, but still holds up for a 12 year old computer. Not sure why the framework would have those issues though.

@stevenswall 5 месяцев назад

Might be Windows 11 having too much cruft? Not sure. It was a bit better on Windows 10 after I installed that.

@chic_luke 4 месяца назад

@@stevenswall Windows 11 is a disaster. Windows 10 was rock-solid, but Windows 11 is just significantly slower. It's a pity newer laptops don't come with Windows 10 anymore

@enzochoi923 3 месяца назад

some of the framework's wacky behavior might be up to the liquid metal? not 100% sure on the dynamics, but it might want some more soaking time to perform well (which comes at the cost of punchy but infrequent tasks)(maybe)

@eda2000-r8h 4 месяца назад

win 11 is still unoptimize man😂

@louishurr393 5 месяцев назад

I’d love to see more TP v. FWK16 comparison vids.

@stevenswall 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, wish I could afford a ThinkPad at the same price, and then another one with similar specs. Part of me thinks the P16 If it has Thunderbolt 5 and an Intel Core Ultra will probably be the best thing for me if it has good battery life.

@michalsvihla1403 5 месяцев назад

@@stevenswall I personally would like to see the P16s gen 2 AMD. It has the 7840U with integrated graphics, 32/64 GB of LPDRR5x RAM clocked at 6400Mhz (which makes a big difference with these ryzen chips) and an 86Wh battery - which must give insane battery lfie paired with that hardware. Plus a 4k OLED panel.