Framing a Guilty Man - Law & Order 

I see what you mean That's no good at all

Cops don't think that far. Unfortunately.

A lawyer saying, "Some justice is better than no justice at all.".

"Guess I'll also have to frame that guy for some other murder"

@@jamespoledna2693 at the risk of waaaaay overanalyzing a plotline to a fictional TV show :), your statement has some glaring issues imo. First, you're suggesting that getting justice for victim #1 is more important than getting justice for victim #2. (They didn't even have a chance to figure that murder out!) Second, you're suggesting that the sentence given to the framed murderer for murder #2 qualifies as justice for murder #1. Since murder #2 wasn't even really investigated, there's no way possible anyone can know that. Maybe buddy would have only gotten like 2 years for the other murder, instead of the 20 he ended up serving. Hell, maybe buddy didn't do it at all and there's a reason why he had the knife and it was a false/coerced confession. That's highly, highly unlikely but without investigating (and without a trial!), no one really knows. Third, if this happened irl, upon release the framed murderer guy would end up winning millions of dollars after suing for wrongful imprisonment and there would be tons of news stories about how he's innocent i.e. totally NOT a murderer at ALL. There's also that ol' "the cop isn't the judge, jury and executioner" argument, but that's stupid so I'll leave well enough alone. :)

Believe it or not, that might be based on a real life requirement. Many government/public agencies have ethics rules against lower level employees giving money to higher level. E.g. if my boss and I go out to lunch, either we can pay for our own meals or Boss can pay for my meal, but I’m not allowed to pay for Boss’s meal. It’s one of those tiny details that lends authenticity to the setting. Though if law shows wanted to add real authenticity, they’d stop implying that you can go from arrest to trial in less than a year. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Two coffee s. Was sarena shut out??

And some of the scenes where there is a Venetian blind in the background, the sunlight coming in you can tell is from a stage light, as the spread pattern from the slats is diverging, but if it were natural sunlight with the sun far away, the pattern would be non-diverging.

The delivery person looks at his payment as if to say "This cheap mofo didn't give me a tip."

And everytime the cops go to the persons work the boss is signing something

I was wondering if that was him

I was wondering if that was him

You nailed it.

God I fking love his acting

That’s him

Lol!🤨🤨🤨🤨

Wow I did not recognize young gus

How did he get from that to running part of the Imperial fleet and beefing with Mando with the Darksaber?

He's as sharp as a tack.

Given what he knows about the murders, I'd say that response was completely acceptable. He knows the guy committed murder, and he's pissed he got out.

I thought its hard to keep your cool when your sitting across from a murderer and a pedophile and he start smoking you.I would be throwing hands with that suspect

I believe the cop thought he killed both girls.

Sounds like he did more than punch the guy, worked him over maybe.

At this point you kind of expect that from him. This was before he was a big star and still delivered

You give them too much credit. Baltimore police run around with bags full of BB guns to plant on people they shoot.

@@Mourtzouphlos240 In New Orleans, cops planting guns on people after a bad shoot was so common that they had a name for the gun. They called those guns ham sandwiches. Seriously.

@@mcjon77 jesus....

Balancing the scales. Hell, they’re flat out gunning down unarmed civilians

Yup,get rid of the police! Ends the protection for the criminals and frees up the people to defend themselves!

I was just thinking that😅

I’ve always wanted to go to NYC

Maybe not suggest people to go to NYC on a video about a cop show about crimes (albeit semi-fictional) in NYC

Aaaand drug dealer

At that time he was helping Mexican "friends" with legal problems

A lawyer can make an argument sure, but it's not a get out of jail free card for everyone he put away. A lawyer would actually have to prove the cop did something illegal for his other cases. There would likely be very few cases that may get a retrial if any. Its only a real nightmare scenario if a lawyer can prove he has been doing this for multiple cases.

You cannot believe ANYTHING this cop says. Did Grimes ever confess? Or did he just beat him bloody until he "confessed"? Any physical evidence the cop produces is worthless, he knows how to tamper with evidence.

he did kill a person tho

Yeah, that line was stupid. Spoken like someone that had never seen or knew what happens in prison.

But he was already a murderer BEFORE he got sent to prison for a crime he didn't commit.

@@threedragonstalk2123 Yes, the guy did deserve to be behind bars but not for the crime he was convicted of.

well but they said at the beginning, he was innocent of the murder that put him in prison, don't get me wrong I had the same thought but then that got brought up

@@warhawk9566 but the crime he was guilty of he committed before that one. He was already a killer.

@@aaronburgin1442 just say you think all crime should be punished with the death penalty you bootlicker

@@TheGodfather441 haha, sure thing "GodFather."

@@aaronburgin1442 I agree but you have to convict him on that crime..cops can't start planting evidence to get one guy meanwhile letting a new guy free

He was also on Homicide, Life on the Street.☺️☺️☺️

A lot of these storylines are taken from real cases.

@@toooldforcitylife I know.thats whats even more sad because a lot of thoses cases go unsolved 😞

I sat on a jury. Sent a guy to prison basically for life. We took a long time deliberating because either way, you wanted to be sure "beyond a reasonable doubt" and that doesn't mean any doubt. Afterward, we were informed of a lot of evidence that was not allowed in: he was definitely guilty. The amount of time we took was longer than the law clerks thought by a couple days... if we do our part, we can try to be a good part of the system.

Life Skills, huh? So it's actually more valuable to commit crimes and get free training in prison?

@@vynthiswechseln3868 than

@@salahad-din9168 eh college T_T On one hand you have crippling debt on the other you have free training and the candy bar you stole.

You know what they don't have in Norway?

@@vynthiswechseln3868 well, that depends. Do you want vengeance or a safer society?

Yes

Except he’s Saul Goodman in this world

Giancarlo Esposito. Great actor

I think the prosecution team would disagree...:3 lol

I see what you did there. 😉

Thats what people say when they’ve never had to deal with a situation that had nothing but awful fucked up choices. People say worthless platitudes when they have nothing else to really say.

@@Cardboardbocs the decision to frame someone for a murder you know they didn't commit isn't a situation with awful choices. Cop let a murderer get away to appease his own ego.

Yeah true, but the system did fail as well

That's my issue..where does it end..by his logic he has to now get the guy he let get away

And the thing is, with this cops morals, there is a high chance that the guy didn't kill the 16 year old and the cop and tried to beat a confession out of him.

He was found guilty of killing the girl whos blood was on the knife. and plead guilty to manslaughter for the man he killed in the beginning of the ep.

@@Shorty4454 was the cop arrested for anything?

@@jacksonfuller8158 forced into early retirement

@@Shorty4454 thanks heaps you legend!

I could see the manslaughter charge.....but cops beating and planting evidence would have been a gold mine for an acquit.

That’s ridiculous. Cops who frame innocent people deserve that. This guy was a cold blooded murderer of little girls. How many do you think he would have killed in the 20 years he was not in prison?

Truth

Like 'innocent'

Yes, but not in the sense that they had a mental disorder, just that they weren't as mature as a 16 year old would be.

Definitely pocketed at some point. Then it became a concealed pretzel. Possibly in his pretzel holster.

She was the hottest of all the female DA