Francine Niyonsaba Shatters 2K World Record 

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francine is intersex, she is allowed to compete and it is not her fault to be born like this, she was born as a girl with a vagina and a womb but no avary (swyer syndrom), that doesnt make her a man and it doesnt give you the right to put hate on her, untersex people are no men

@@carinazinkeisen7868 I have NO apology to make. I am not showing hate to Francine. I am showing love to Abrham. It's not her fault she came second. She did her best!!

@@carinazinkeisen7868 Note: you said "untersex" not female. I DID NOT refer to Francine as a man!!

@@maxcoore8490 everybody does her best . francine is allowed to compete - and you have to reepect this

You're right Max, Francine is a biological male. Carina is trying to push an incorrect and irrelevant point. No one is talking about swyer or PCO but Carina, smoke and mirrors.

You are sick

I seriously doubt it, considering DSD athletes are biologically men.

The ones who have publicly spoken don't seem to think so. Remember, MOST DSD ATHLETES ARE NOT FEMALE--THEY ARE INTERSEX. The media misleads people by referring to DSD as "females with high testosterone" in order to push the US and Western Europe transgender and homosexual agenda on the world through international agencies.

Does he/she have male or female g3n1tal1a ? Was it born with a v4g1n4 or a p3n15 ? (RU-vid deleting me for typing the word) I think if born with high testosterone it's ok just an abnormal outlier , athletes always stand out due to genetics when they're elite. just like a tall basketball player has an advantage, doesn't mean it's unfair, just an advantage given at birth. I believe if born with f3male g3n1tal1a it's a woman.

@@AK-gb9rp Um lady part doesn't automatically make one female. All humans have lady parts in the womb until those with Y chromosomes gets the testosterone signal to grow a peen. XY is male XX is female. If xy has a lady part it's an u developed male not a female.

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The rule was specifically designed to prevent Caster Samenya from competing in Tokyo. As usual, Samenya had the perfect response to a reprehensible ruling: no comment. No one complained about 'tomboys' in sports when it was American Babe Didrikson.

@@paulfhoffman The original ban did apply to all distances but the CAS struck it down and requested data to support the ban which was only able to be provided for 400-1500. You be sure they'll expand the ban just as soon as they can.

Because Coe was a miler and he doesn’t care about anything but his own events.

It's hard to know how situations like Francine's should be handled but with a genetic and hormonal advantage it would be unusual to not win.

No we haven’t . Stop lying

Lol, what a tool comment. DSD athletes look like men because they are, only biased or gender blind people think they're women.

In fact, the exact opposite is true. prior to 2011 intersex athletes were banned from competing as women. And medals have been revoked retroactively if it is subsequently learned that the medalist was not female. The US and Western Europe are using DSD/intersex athletes to force their transgender and homosexual agenda on the world through international agencies. The Black Africans fit that program nicely because they can always hide behind racism to deflect from the intersex athlete issue.

@@jabaltariq4606 Yup, unfortunately black suffering has been weaponized and people don't realize it because of years of racism cloud their judgement.

@@sarahsodone5993 i am francines fan and i cant stand the hate towards her . she is intersex and doesnt choose to be born like she is

She was born as a girl with a womb and a vagina but no ovaries It is called swyer syndrome. Do you know about this issue? I dont think so

She is a woman ,stop hating

That's obviously an exaggeration. Sad.

And why should she, she was running against a literal man. Just because you put a wig on and has a female name doesn’t make it fair.

I hope you're not implying more negativity towards Flo Jo than Her World Records already have to endure. Moreover; Remember that She became a mother of a beautiful and talented daughter after She retired.

Soon he'll take every record is what you say?

It is insane that they let a man run against women.

@@teeemm9456 😂😂

@Akpeenti Adie Yes he is.

@@teeemm9456 Were have you seen a man with a womb. Anyway she is to slow to be a man, guys run those time in training while we would do 3 x 2000m, she is to slow to be a man. Even the steeplechase boys under 18 will dust her off. Even her best category race that she used to run, it will be insane to co are her with the man, she will was to slow to be a man. She will.never make it with man, period.

@@lebogangseabi525 Too bad, I guess he's really not that good at running then. There's Testes, no ovaries, etc. Manly Testosterone + XY Chromosome = Testes = Male.

What do you mean "she"? Why you think african hae to cheat to be at par with westerns?

@@Sonny111 Mboma is not cheating at all. She was brought up as a girl in Namibia and is just doing her best as an athlete. However, she apparently has a Y sex chromosome, which technically qualifies her as being a male. Anyway, if you do a bit of research, check back with me later. Maybe you will discover something that I missed.

Haha

people with dsd (intersex) have far to low testo - they cant compete with men, they can only make races between intsersex people ore they reduce testo....

Before they compete with men, we need to strip Michael Phelps from ALL his medals too. He, too, had an unfair physiological advantage over men but you’d call that talent just because it’s him. If you’re gonna call him talented, then you should call these women talented too because if not, how do YOU define talent?

@@jhadebredenkamp97 There is only one universal division of physiological capabilities in the Olympics, and that is gender (Male/Female). Let's leave the Paralympics out of this for now. Given that a person is either male or female, then all other intrinsic genetic parameters are not considered (let's leave out combat sports divisions by weight for now) . There are some restrictions based on hormone levels, exogenous compounds and various other parameters, but they are not so relevant to the core argument. Now, intersex and transgenders don't fall into the 'norm' of male or female. In an ideal world, a new division could be created for those of other genders/sexes, but that would just be economically unviable due to lack of demand. So, the only logical step would be to allow people of other genders etc to compete in an area of disadvantage than of advantage. This has nothing to do with talent or lack thereof. These athletes are all incredible period. Given your Phelps argument, we might as well have an infinite number of divisions or just screw everything and have a no holds barred Olympics with no divisions or restrictions whatsoever. There was an example of a female MMA fighter's skull literally being cracked by a much stronger transgender opponent and many of mediocre male HS sprinters transitioning to female and dominating. It is never possible to ever make a race or event 100% fair as there are so many things to be considered. However, it is a shame that the one and only steadfast division of physiological ability is now becoming blurry (to the detriment of female athletes).

@@jokadantot145 That person is trying to do some half-assed activism on every comment. Excellent response. The main difference is male-female sex division. They are missing the point it's not about just being different, athletics have a gender sex divide for a reason. Other differences aren't an issue other than as u say Paralympics.

@@jhadebredenkamp97 They can compete with a new group. Dsd athletes, transforms and such. Phelps has nothing to do with with this. He was competing with men. Caitlyn Jenner competed as a man. But people like Francine might not do well against men even though they have a chance against women. But they should be able to compete so an additional category should be added for them so they can acquire the same athletic benefits.

Is jy ernstig?

Francine Niyonsaba is a biological male, any good high school male runner could break the women's world record in any event.

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Pues si son mujeres pero con niveles de testosterona parecidos a los de un hombre, se me hace injusto que participen con las mujeres porque tienen mucha ventaja respecto a las demás, es una situación complicada ya que son mujeres nacidas mujeres pero con niveles de testosterona altos asi que es injusto que las pongan a competir contra mujeres u hombres, la situación ésta complicada, pero si, no deberían permitir que estás mujeres sigan corriendo contra otras mujeres o al menos negarles los wr o competencias de suma importancia, es una situación compleja

As a result they have less performance benefit because muscle ≠ endurance. It's fair. Hate to stop someone from competing because they were born with a hormonal imbalance. They were born that way, not doped athletes

What is a woman?

The IAAF really fucked up with their rules. They should have just flat out banned xy chromosomes.

@@maxcoore8490 IAAF didn't fuck up. They were prevented by CAS from applying a ban across all distances.

@@XDF745 Thanks for the clarification. Cheers!!

Brutal! "Gabbazebra" fhs! She doesn't even pronounce the city correctly.

Oh shut up. Other men train just as hard and have to run against men.

@Jacques Wieciech lol, crock. Fairness and truth are NOT hateful. But your hurt feelings seem to indicate that you don't care about either, only supporting inequity.

Yeah haha I couldn't believe I had to listen to her commentate another race. She is the one who kept calling mboma MAMBA right? This was not as bad as others I've heard, i think she also did the cheptegei 10k wr run on this channel from 11 months ago (she couldn't stop studdering and saying y'know um) absolutely was a pain to listen to.

Amen!

To answer you: I always feel like shit if I have an unfair advantage over somebody. It's called a conscience. And I wouldn't compete among haters, because there must be a reason for it... Actually, that's my life's story. I rather don't take part than waste my time by casting pearls.

People just hate the unfairness...

Hahaaa

ROFL, what a dumb, ignorant comment. DSD means it's a MAN and they're letting men run against women because they stupidly thought limiting a few races would mean something. This is a semi-talented, not-even regional level, man running against women and winning. DSD should mean a new category or they run against men, because that's what DSD means, a biological male.

DSD usually means the athlete is intersex, i.e. not female but more than likely a hermaphrodite

@@jabaltariq4606 Wrong. XY chromosome with testes, which leads to male testosterone output. Hence a male.

@Akpeenti Adie lol, obviously it's not a big factor...that's why Men's record times are significantly lower for pretty much every running event ever created.

Yeah...all the other women should juice up with testosterone to the levels these DSD athletes are allowed to have. Then the playing field would be even and the results would be far different.