Franck: Sinfonie d-Moll ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Marc Minkowski 

how many composers of that era faced the same absurd situation? plenty. Bruckner, Tchaikovsky to name two.

Absolute nonsense. Total bs. Franck was a great master, as great as any other. Do you even know what you're talking about? Have you heard every one of his organ masterworks? The piano works? The great piano quintet? The sonata for piano and violin? Sorry if he doesn't live up to your liking. Great composers don't need the likes of people and critics with opinions. You could say that silly crap about any great composer. There can be no greater composer than Franck. He is unique and original. It doesn't make him a lesser composer. Or an uneven one.

And who are these precious "musicologists" who have thus "deemed" him this or that? I've never heard anything more offensive. And just dumb.

@@djmotise Never heard anything more offensive?? Do you ever leave the house? Watch television? Anyhoo, much as I hate to tell you this, Mr. Brandal is quite right. His use of the word musicologist is off the mark, but many of Franck's works met with little or no success in his lifetime. His students had a particular affection for him, but he was somewhat beleaguered by other composers and many conservatoire colleagues. For one thing, they did not like his cyclic structures. Also, he was deemed overly dramatic in some works. To boot, he was a very popular teacher who used somewhat unorthodox methods in a very orthodox institution. Mr. Motise pushes at the point himself by listing the usual suspects among his output -- of course, the quintet, sonata, symphony, prelude/chorale/fugue, symphonic variations are great, and I do not consider that means there are not other worthies in his opera. I think of Les Djinns, for example. I am, indeed, of the opinion that he is still underrated. The issue here is rather odd, because Mr. Brandal seems to write as an admirer of Franck. What he takes note of is CF's reception in his own time, and I daresay even Wiki makes its tepid reception clear. But, Mr. Motise, do you really think that Franck was as great as Bach? Beethoven?

very helpful and very useful comment, thank you very much. 🎵☮🎵☮🎵

^ An actually useful comment, unlike 99% of the rubbish that gets posted.

In french one says :" bouts de ficelles" (ends of string)

do you count him as French or Belgian or even Dutch because where he was born was part of the Netherlands back then? Could be any of them I suppose as he lived most of his life in France :) I quite like some of Poulenc's stuff as well

Many composers do this. Not just French ones. Love this symphony, though. Played it numerous times.

Blah, blah, blah......... 😱

Things about this symphony that haunted me were the confusing, hard rhythms of the cello section 😂😂😂

The quality of Franck's work was thought to be uneven, but this symphonic work rises to the occasion and has a lot going for it.

Many critics didn't liked it at its premiere

@@erronblack5015 Because the French that time had a surprisingly conservative attitude to the classic symphony genre. They be "why is there a cor anglais, haydn and mozart didn't use that in their orchestra." It was surprising. But in the 20thC it was one of the most played French symphonies.

As wonderful as it is the Frankfort Radio Symphony is not by any means the 'world's greatest orchestra..

@@billy5821 Sorry, Bill Y, it really is an orchestra of the top rank, one of the best.

Exactly! I wonder if they tell the audience or they just know..

I haven't been to a live concert in a long time but I don't ever recall any advance notice not to clap. @@EvanMusik-in1br

I am hearing American in Paris....instead.

😊 If only everyone had done nine… Albéric Magnard for example, or Saint-Saëns!

The Organ Symphony is my second favorite behind Dvorak's 9th, and while Franck doesn't break my top ten, this piece has a lot going for it.

French? Franck was Belgian.

Complimento o insulto???

If you like this, you will love "Parsifal", act III (transformation scene)

The whole piece is

Lmao xD

It"s "My Little Pony" not "My Little Ponny [sic]". Ever hear of Spell-Check?

I would think so, although I wasn't able to find the French premiere date of Brahms' symphony. But he wasn't initially regarded particularly highly there, and people tend to forget just how separate the French and German musical worlds were for most of the 19th century (despite the influence of Wagner).

franck was belgian

Langweilighkeit

*Langweiligkeit But why use a german word in an english comment? ^^

@@MCMeru Because the German word is more expressive.

@@paulsomers6048 Really? Is that a word nativ english speakers actually use?

@@MCMeru No, but it is a German orchestra's comment thread, so why not? "Langweiligkeit" vs. "boring"?? No contest!

Same here. Came from Tridashie's Friendship is Musical part 19-20

It screams Music par excallance. I don't find the urge to juxtapose superficial national auras to pure music in and of itself.

@@benedictspinoza1025 , I agree, but you can still tell by listening to music where the composer was from, just as you can tell art from the Northern Renaissance as opposed to art from the Southern Renaissance--or art from the Renaissance in contrast with Baroque and Romanticism. I'm not saying that Frank wrote a new national anthem; I'm only saying that you can hear the French culture in his music.

El solo del corno inglés 🥰

Damit haben Sie ins Schwarze getroffen! Ich würde diese Bildregie als einen perfekten Diletantismus bezeichnen (hilflose und unzuständige Umherirrung der Videokamera).

Da fragt man sich echt, ob das heutzutage vorher noch geprobt wird oder aus "Effizienzgründen" nur direkt beim Konzert geschieht. Früher hat man zu dem Zweck mit den Kameramännern bei leerem Saal und ohne Orchester die Stücke trocken durchgestellt.

in 20:01 the beautiful celli are ignored for ex.

Es agieren hochbezahlte Zwangsgebühren-bezahlte Stümper denen alles scheissegal ist. Hauptsache der monatliche Versorgungsscheck liegt im Briefkasten ! @@user-ci1cb3ds4w

III. 28.15

Étienne D I love u

¿De qué sería de Walter Piston?

Zweimal sogar, wahrscheinlich wegen Störgeräuschen aus dem Publikum.

35:35

Yes, the camera work is embarrassing at times.

+notaire2 Da muss ich Ihnen recht geben. Habe vor viele Jahren in Rotterdam diese Symfonie unter Leopold Stokowski erleben dürfen. Spannungsgeladen, dynamisch. Ich meine, Sie können es im RU-vid finden.

+notaire2 Meine Antwort von vorhin: leider nur der erste Satz, aber immerhin.

+Cornelis van der KRUK Danke für Ihre nette Information. Ich will es auf RU-vid finden.

Entschuldigung, da bin nicht einverstanden. Diese Symphonie is von Anfang bis Ende spannend und faszinierend. Langweilig ist sie nie, oder zumindest ist sie es in den etwa 20 Auffuehrungen, die ich davon gehoert habe, nie gewesen.

Yes something seems to have got awry with the right channel..

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Agreed.... very much like Liszt...