Heheh, I can understand your perspective. However, it's my opinion that it's not both because advocating for yourself or otherwise not allowing yourself to be taken advantage of by "xyz" larger entity using clever means isn't a petty matter.
@@emoo2342 doesnt mean its not petty 💀💀 you have some serious victim complex lmao, frank doing that was petty as hell no matter the reason, just cause you killed a rich person to feed poor people doesnt mean you aint a murderer. i get you want to worship frank but accepting his flaws also adds value to his brilliance, a perfect person doesnt exists. if you keep worshipping him for the wrong reasons sooner or later you'll become a swifty 😂😂
He didn't scam them. He did the right thing. As soon as a label can't scam u everyone wants to say u scammed the label. He did his job. And got the most out of it. While the label gets the crumbs how it's supposed to be.
@@user-x3cctjs nope again lol…he got the name Frank Ocean from watching the movie Oceans 11 starring Frank Sinatra… he didn’t change his name…Francis is just a moniker for Frank🫶🏽
Basically his label tried to trap him so he basically gave them a mixtape called it album took the 2milion out of the 20m that apple gave him. Released "Blonde" exclusively on apple music and he own 100% master and royalties off that album. Def jam didn't see a dime of what was made off of "blonde"
In there somewhere is still one of the most underrated and I think unfinished interlude songs ever. It just sounds like such a good ballad and I know I'll never hear it finished cause they got the song rights probably and they dislike each other.
Frank is a God for getting back at these record labels. Been screwing and leveraging artists for their own profit for decades and he played them like a fiddle. Love to see it
Also, starting from scratch is hella taxing both emotionally and logistically. Unless you already know people and how to do it, fresh artists most likely need the structure and connections of labels.
@@Prince-eb8ll Drakes albums are distributed by republic records a division of universal which Lucian is apart of, Ovo is distributed & a subsidiary of Warner music
@@Prince-eb8ll You do realize that basically every major artist is under Universal, Sony or Warner. Some of them (like Drake) even have deals with more than one.
Exactly he broke the promotion part of his contract! He's gotta to work harder now to gain royalties(performance and streaming)by teaming up with friends(and they had to have a name and publisher)touring or an album collab. Or he can get love from his old work when he was with Lucian. I don't consider it a wise move tbh🤷
you got the cliffnotes fucked up. Channel Orange was written in 3 weeks (allegedly) not *made* in the 3 weeks. It took him around 9 months to record. 20 million was not for Endless, that was for Blonde. Endless was the album released to break the contract. It was just released in the most inconvenient way possible, so that Def Jam makes as little money as possible on it. That being said, Endless is also a fantastic album, and was re-released in physical form, without all the background noise of the visual album, because with exiting the record deal, he bought back his masters. Blonde was an album he hid from his label, and negotiated a 20million dollar exclusive apple deal for. And then later it released to spotify. But essentially, because he ended his contract with the release of Endless, all the 20m he made from blonde, was his.
@TheCuttyBrown Nikes and Seigfred. And that was hard for me to say because I love the entire album. Also, have you heard Blonde entirely just the instrumentals? Chef's kiss!!!
Rocky said he played the Label At there own game and took millions. He was playing chess to the T with that label. Hey that’s the guy whom Kanye said Drake has at his Label. He called him drakes baby daddy Lucian.
@@BandileOnTV wait.. so if drake got 400 millions advance, and then to make a project and then when its time for him to sell that project, his project should do more than what the advances he's been given, right? is that how it works? i'm kinda curious..
I'm not into music history so much but I love the way you explained this!!!! Amazing. You're a great story teller. I was smiling like a kid listening to you loool x
Literally none of these people will stand the test of Time. Most of today's "A-List" celebrities will be nothing more than a footnote in the annals of history because nothing they've contributed is Truly Timeless and Lasting. Fast fame and fast money are always fleeting.
@@crptniteNot to be rude, but have you ever even heard of Frank Ocean? With the rise of so many artists today, Frank is still regarded as one of the best musical and lyrical people have ever known. It’s been, what, 12 years since Channel Orange and 8 years since Blonde? Almost a decade for both albums and still Frank is very largely missed. In my opinion, and I think others as well, Frank is a truly outstanding and timeless artist and one who will last a very, very long time.
@@crptniteyou're not wrong in saying it's pop culture. But two things can be true at the same time. Frank Ocean is a musician. The events explained have long since passed making it history. And it'll go down as one of the times that an artist got the better of the record label.
I was in a pretty small-time group for like five years and was left with nothing to show for it. Album didn't come out, all kinds of money disappeared. My parents never got back $2000 they loaned the band but our manager (who did basically nothing and didn't even have a formal contract) got paid off when the band folded. This right here? This is the dream. He got paid. That's near impossible in the music industry. And if I even keep trying to do music full-time, I am taking notes
@@Synchro789 ??? youtube was being weird that day and not posting my comments so i sent it again. it’s a valid question, i didn’t look too deep into it but i didn’t think anything was out of the ordinary
I'ma put it like this- they had the man writing some of the best songs for other artists and keeping him in the dark way too long. They were milking him. He wasn't the first, won't be the last. Every once in a while the little wins, that's okay.
I think part of why he doesn't make as much music anymore is because hes probably black balled, that mixed with maybe his own stuff he got going on probably just makes making music for the public seem...eh, not worth it anymore, especially since he got his own jewelry brand, probably is connected in the fashion industry. From a real world perspective I understand, i love his art for what it gave and it still gives, so ill cherish what he gave and be happy, all a supporter can do.
People acting like endless is a fake album is crazy, it’s just an experimental album he couldn’t have released under contract cause it’s not commercial enough. But it’s a whole ass album that is insanely good too
I think the only mixtape sounds like an album and done successfully is faces by Mac miller the way how the songs was put together told a story from beginning. The only bad part is some of the samples were taken out of it
Why did the guy say no more exclusive deals. Wasnt the biggest finesse that he sold them an album of him making stairs. The apple deal was just the icing on the cake for him. The guys real goal should have been to stop allowing artist to offer non music as music.
Tricking a multi billion dollar greedy label is not petty, it's humane. Him also prioritizing his finance is a genius move for living a free life. He isn't petty, he just tricked a label, got his bag and went on his way
When people ask why I like frank so much I'm showing this video. I been telling people he finessed tf outta def jam and the music industry ain't been the same since...
A lot of Contracts want people to be slaves, and you find the companies happily telling you that they own you or your life, there's so much evil behind Contracts that is sadly accepted in this age
