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Franz Liszt ‒ La lugubre gondola, I & II, S200 

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Franz Liszt (1811 - 1886), La lugubre gondola S200 (1882/1885)
Performed by Arnaldo Cohen
00:00 - No. 1 La lugubre gondola I S200/1
05:00 - No. 2 La lugubre gondola II S200/2
There are four pieces associated with the death of Wagner, the contemporary composer whom Liszt admired above all others, despite the sometimes serious difficulties in their personal relationship. Liszt stayed with Wagner at the Palazzo Vendramin on the Grand Canal at the end of 1882, where he had a premonition that Wagner would die in Venice, and that, therefore, his body would be carried by a funeral gondola. The music which he wrote (La lugubre gondola is usually the preferred title) is a transformation of the shape of a barcarolle, with harmony so original that the sense of tragedy is exceptionally desolate. Liszt later revised and extended the work, altering the metre from 6/8 to 4/4, without losing either the rocking of the boat or the plainting of the melodic line, but the second version is painted in more powerful colours than the first (Liszt also produced versions for violin or cello and piano). The comfortless piece which Liszt composed upon hearing that Wagner had died, R W-Venezia, is almost as violent as Unstern! but for the obvious reason of personal anguish. The deliberate echoes of Wagnerian grandeur are destroyed in a great dissonant cry. A little later, on the day that would have been Wagner’s seventieth birthday, Liszt composed the tiny elegy At Richard Wagner’s Grave, which he opens with the theme of Excelsior!, the first part of his choral work The Bells of Strasbourg Cathedral which Wagner had used to open Parsifal. Turning the compliment about, Liszt’s piece ends with a hushed recollection of the bell motif from Wagner’s opera. This piece, which also exists for organ or for string quartet and harp, remained unpublished for decades.

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@gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819
I love the late Liszt s works. Filled with mystery and introspection, way underrated masterworks
@PieInTheSky9
@PieInTheSky9 8 лет назад
Man, Liszt was ahead of his time. This sounds like it was written in the 20th century!
@konosxatz1
@konosxatz1 8 лет назад
Well he was the first one to experiment with whole tones,full chromatic language,continiously diminished chords and unresolved harmonies.I have two files in my music:tonal and Dissonant.I really don't know if Liszt should be with Haydn or with Ives ....
@samcollins8330
@samcollins8330 5 лет назад
PieInTheSky is that a compliment?
@AndreiAnghelLiszt
@AndreiAnghelLiszt 4 года назад
@Martha Sviniard It's hilarious how you can spout such utter nonsense about Liszt's works and mantain this facade of confidence as if you actually know what you're talking about. Liszt is incomparably a superior composer to Chopin, Chopin being a marvellous and innovative talent for creating memorable melodies and harmonies and advanced figurations, but Liszt welding all three of these to an unerring sense of the numinous and the diabolic that lifts every bar of his music way above the ultimately rather mundane level of most of the Polish genius's output. While Chopin wrote excellent piano music, he could not handle orchestration and did not write well for chamber ensembles or for voice; orchestras dread performing Chopin's music for orchestra and piano because the orchestral writing is so deadly dull. Liszt also wrote excellent piano music - but was also equally as skilled as a writer of lieder, oratorios, symphonic poems, symphonies and choral music. Liszt was also much, much more innovative than Chopin (the Two Legends, written in 1863, represent *unprecedented* attempts at musical naturalism and the water-related works Liszt wrote such as Au lac de Wallenstadt, Au bord d'une source, Les jeux d'eaux à la Villa d'Este are all remarkably impressionist; can you point me to a single water-related work by Chopin which influenced Debussy/Ravel?). And it isn't just his late works that are shockingly innovative, just look at his S155 first Apparition (composed in 1834, when he was just 22 years old!) an intense, expressionistic quasi-improvisation which few of his contemporaries had the slightest understanding of, or his Harmonies poétiques et religieuses, S154, *a piece that begins with no time- or key-signature* . *So before you spout this BS again, that Chopin was more innovative than Liszt, you might want to listen to a bit more Liszt so you don't look like such an illiterate dilettante* . And of course, there is Liszt's late period which was absolutely as astonishing as Beethoven's, where Liszt threw his spear as far into the 20th century as he possibly could, anticipating the aforementioned impressionism, of Debussy and Ravel, and the expressionism of Bartok, and in some pieces even anticipating Schoenberg and Messiaen. Chopin was an amazingly gifted musician who could certainly bring forth colors not previously explored and make the piano do his bidding but he was no match for the musical juggernaut of Liszt. Also, this hoary myth that is circulated around the internet (mostly by idiots like you who know nothing about Liszt) that he did not write any good 'original' works before Chopin died (or that he did not write any good works early within his life) is quickly dispelled by all S155 Apparitions, the Hymnes from the S172a Harmonies, the S156 Album d'un voyageur and the 3rd Piano Concerto, to name just a few-all written before Chopin's death in 1849.
@zennabella1676
@zennabella1676 4 года назад
YES I AGREE. IM NOT QUITE HALF WAY THROUGH LISTENING TO THIS TUNE AND IM FINDING IT QUITE SPOOKY. I LIKE SOME DARK MUSIC, AS LONG AS ITS NOT TOO DARK. THERE HAS TO BE SOME SWEET NOTES AMONGST IT FOR ME TO LIKE IT. LISZT WAS A VERY CLEVER MAN. I WONDER IF HE HAS BEEN RE BORN AS SOMEONE ELSE! AND IF HE HAS BEEN RE BORN AND HE TOOK UP PLAYING THE PIANO AGAIN AND COMPOSING MUSIC I WONDER IF HE WOULD BE JUST AS GOOD AS HE WAS IN HIS PAST LIFE, OR WOULD HE BE NOT QUITE THAT PATIENT TO BECOME THE GENIUS HE WAS.
@LeifD958
@LeifD958 4 года назад
Sparticus Booker -- Sorry, you said Liszt didn’t develop into a good composer until his later years? That’s a ridiculous statement. Liszt was probably the best composer in the world at his time. And I am not talking about his pianism, which off course was superb. I am simply talking about he as a composer. He was not primarily a pianist. He was a musician and composer of the highest order with the finest pianistic ability.
@Jpink-rd5hq
@Jpink-rd5hq 6 лет назад
I love Franz liszt mysterious piece... I play this piece on the piano and it takes me into another world. Mu stress and worries are totally gone when i am playing liszt on the piano
@brycebull1924
@brycebull1924 7 лет назад
I can only play this up until 5:00 and never heard or played beyond that but today I'm sorry I haven't done so. Theres a lot of great work in Liszt's old stuff. Definately one of my favourites.
@juanmaschoclan7994
@juanmaschoclan7994 8 лет назад
This liszt is so interesting, and unknown for me and for many people i supose, thanks for this excellent selection
@davidrehak3539
@davidrehak3539 6 лет назад
Liszt Ferenc:Gyászgondola 1.Gyászgondola 00:05 2.Gyászgondola 05:04 Arnaldo Cohen-zongora
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO 5 лет назад
Arnaldo Cohen has a great touch.
@virtuosiproducoes2591
@virtuosiproducoes2591 4 года назад
He is a genius but this cd could have been recorded in a hall with better acoustics.
@jankawiorski
@jankawiorski 5 лет назад
Ferenc Liszt - everlasting avant-gardist.
@lewisbae
@lewisbae 8 лет назад
Yeah! Finally with a score! Thanks
@auroresad21
@auroresad21 3 года назад
Merci pour la partition, le commentaire , le pianiste dont le jeu est parfait et surtout merci à Liszt pour ce bijou musical.
@mariana.makasjian
@mariana.makasjian 2 года назад
so so amazing, mysterious, and hauntingly beautiful
@krugos1978
@krugos1978 8 лет назад
I had not heard this in years, and it's great to be able to listen to it while reading the sheet music. Thank you!
@laurencegray4720
@laurencegray4720 3 года назад
Thank you for putting this on RU-vid. I enjoyed Lisztening to it.
@KR-mm4el
@KR-mm4el 3 года назад
😕
@laurencegray4720
@laurencegray4720 3 года назад
I genuinely enjoyed this music. I grew up in a musically literate house with two parents who had good taste in music. My mother was a music teacher who played the piano and my father's favorite de-composer was Ludwig von Beethoven. My mother didn't try to play anything by Liszt but there were several pieces of his piano music in her collection.
@KR-mm4el
@KR-mm4el 3 года назад
@@laurencegray4720 ☹️
@laurencegray4720
@laurencegray4720 3 года назад
@@KR-mm4el what is your problem with someone who enjoys and likes listening to good music and playing it? Who was taught how to listen to this music and appreciate it properly by both of his parents. You need to stop taking this music so seriously and stop worshipping it. You need to lighten up and listen to some of P.D.Q. Bach's music which was "discovered" by Peter Schickele. And last but not least, if you must criticize another musician, you really ought to pick on someone who is younger than you instead of someone like me who has been playing music for fifty something years now.
@WEEBLLOM
@WEEBLLOM 3 года назад
@@KR-mm4el ?
@mathias841
@mathias841 5 лет назад
I find it great listening to those two versions following each other as a same piece.
@HectorMorales-rs5qt
@HectorMorales-rs5qt 7 лет назад
My professor always asks this question every single time we listen to the Gondola: "Is it tonal or non-tonal?"
@mathias841
@mathias841 5 лет назад
Hector Morales my professor says ''semi-tonal"
@Sam-gx2ti
@Sam-gx2ti 3 года назад
It does such a good job of flirting with both, standing between the two
@yeetthebeet
@yeetthebeet 2 года назад
@@Vexalord Schöneberg has his own beauty tooo
@maxgregorycompositions6216
@maxgregorycompositions6216 2 года назад
It's poly-amamorpherus-tonal
@themoonfleesthroughclouds
@themoonfleesthroughclouds 2 года назад
@@Vexalord 1. Schoenberg can be beautiful. 2. This is far from atonal, more omnitonal.
@postmortemritual
@postmortemritual 4 года назад
great piece. i like it. thanks!
@user-fu7zf4ck9z
@user-fu7zf4ck9z Год назад
According to wikipedia, No.2 is actually an earlier version of No.1
@bethlady4975
@bethlady4975 9 месяцев назад
This piece is about Richard Wagner’s (his long time friend then son in law’s) death on a gondola
@enriquesanchez2001
@enriquesanchez2001 5 лет назад
wow
@AlexanderArsov
@AlexanderArsov 2 года назад
The description comes from Leslie Howard's liner notes.
@felgorean
@felgorean 7 лет назад
I'm listening to this as a result of recently finding the BBC Music CD (Vol 8 no 7), which has 'interactive content' I don't want. I have a question though; these tracks are numbered 1 and 2, but at the beginning it says versions 2 and 3. What, if anything, am I missing here?
@WTT1978
@WTT1978 7 лет назад
Fair call. It is version 2 & 3 on this vid. Track 1 is version 2 and Track 2 is version 3. Version 1 is not on this vid.
@StephenGottPianist
@StephenGottPianist 2 года назад
Apparently, according to Dr. Alan Walker, Wagner died 2 months after this composition.
@treesny
@treesny 2 месяца назад
Liszt had a premonition of Wagner's death. And in addition to this/these piece(s), he wrote R.W.--Venezia and Am Grabe Richard Wagners in memory of his fellow composer (and son-in-law).
@pereztube2
@pereztube2 5 лет назад
tonal or atonal?
@bernardmolan2976
@bernardmolan2976 3 года назад
Bit of both. Or just pissed.
@juanuliarte6674
@juanuliarte6674 3 года назад
Tonalidad ambigua
@ValzainLumivix
@ValzainLumivix 3 года назад
Yes
@WEEBLLOM
@WEEBLLOM 3 года назад
@@bernardmolan2976 "pissed"
@Alkadondon
@Alkadondon 8 лет назад
11:53
@Boltogenta
@Boltogenta 3 года назад
Please any playing without spam?
@FueganTV
@FueganTV 3 года назад
The section starting from 3:22 is very likely an allusion to Tristan und Isolde.
@stacia6678
@stacia6678 4 месяца назад
Definitely could be. Recalls the "fate" motif. The piece was written as a memory of Wagner's death on a gondola.
@augustinmoulet8548
@augustinmoulet8548 2 года назад
10min 30 la prochaine minute la plus belle
@Dirtydom_Music
@Dirtydom_Music 3 года назад
Ab major or f minor?
@WEEBLLOM
@WEEBLLOM 3 года назад
no
@liebestraumslm3908
@liebestraumslm3908 Год назад
Is this piece easy for pianists?
@WEEBLLOM
@WEEBLLOM Год назад
I'd say intermediate
@BearDimka
@BearDimka 2 года назад
Oh, I don't know... When I was only in begging of opening wast land of classical music it was such a mind blowing pieces cause they was writen by a romantic composer. Just lile wow! Predecessor to twelve tone and atonal compositions. But now, 7-8 years later I found this pieces bleak to other works of Liszt (one of my very favorite composer!). Like it's really cool that he moved his landscape of musical language very far ahead of his time but in meantime I hear that's it's not his space or he didn't have much time to flesh out musical language to extent that it would feel really natural to listen. Like there something missing, some structural unifying whole, I guess? But overal this particular pieces very atmospheric and one of tranquill and translike piecese of Liszt (like Ave Maria from poetic and religious harmonies, for example). And more important it's very lisztian pieces! And I founding this fascinating because it's rare to composer go to another musical landscape and save some of his old charm :) Not in any way I critique this music! Just sharing my subjective opinion and feelings about pieces and late Liszt :)
@franzliszt5292
@franzliszt5292 2 года назад
gottem
@lowlightpiano7110
@lowlightpiano7110 Год назад
Repent and trust in Jesus. We deserve Hell for our sin. Lying, lusting, etc, but God sent his son Jesus to die on the cross and ride from the grave to free us from sin. If you repent and trust in him youll be saved. Romans 3:23 John 3:16❤😊❤
@treesny
@treesny 2 месяца назад
We are all pilgrims journeying towards our ultimate home, but there are many paths!
@bernardmolan2976
@bernardmolan2976 3 года назад
I literally don't see any talent here or compositional thought. It's as if someone who knows nothing about music and had never learned to play an instrument sat down in front of a piano with just the desire to be expressive. Seriously. Maybe by the time he was in his 70s he had full-on Alzheimer's or the plague or something. I mean some bits are sort of "good" but it's mostly pretty darn awful. The one he did before this, Grey Clouds, although nutty, was much better. Word is he wrote it for his friend Wagner who was dying. I don't think he would have appreciated it much.
@dacoconutnut9503
@dacoconutnut9503 3 года назад
I wonder if someone with "full-on Alzheimer's" would even conceive such masterpieces like "Von Der Wiege Bis Zum Grabe", "Variations on 'Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen'" and the "Mephisto Waltzes 2, 3 and 4"
@thevanguard4462
@thevanguard4462 3 года назад
Maybe one day you will grow up
@nathanturczan
@nathanturczan 2 года назад
big eye roll
@user-zs3mc4db3y
@user-zs3mc4db3y 7 месяцев назад
You just cant see it, bc in your way music is music, not a language for something else. And do your critique is just a music theory but not a transmission between something in to music. Music is blank for you.
@soapboi5420
@soapboi5420 4 месяца назад
youre retarded
@christianweatherbroadcasti3491
@christianweatherbroadcasti3491 9 месяцев назад
Repent and trust in Jesus. We deserve Hell for our sin. Lying, lusting, etc, but God sent his son Jesus to die on the cross and ride from the grave to free us from sin. If you repent and trust in him youll be saved. Romans 3:23 John 3:16❤😊❤❤
@treesny
@treesny 2 месяца назад
The primal mistake we make as humans is to believe our mind when it tells us that we are separate from all other living things on Planet Earth.
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