Franz Schubert : Sonata for arpeggione & fortepiano - 1. Allegro moderato 

...yea but the kid looks like his uncle the gamba..

@@yvesrondeau9389 ...and so does his older brother, violone 🤔

@@yvesrondeau9389 Shhhush! Dad will kill both mom and uncle if he finds out!

Looking at the nut (scroll), it looks like the grandfather might have been very close friends with an Asian, not to mention the viola da gamba in the woodpile.

@@Chompchompyerdedthe nut is where the strings meet the edge of the fingerboard before bending back to reach the pegs. The scroll is the ornamental addition to the top. There are Viols with that same type of scroll.

Thank you very much Sir, I have been searching for this Arpegione In most of the video Arpegione's part played by Cello, It sounds wonderful

I remember meeting you in Bayreuth with Paul who played on an early Liszt piano. A soirée to remember. Still regularly listen to and enjoy the CD. Thanks

Hello, I wondered who make your arpegionne and how can I find an arpegionne with compensated frets like yours?

Because it's a cross between a Cello & a Guitar the sound is kind of in between the 2.

You are glad that this arpeggione exists, but I think its a great shame that the arpeggione has not survived as an instrument. It's rare to see one, though this recoding was made with a really fine specimen. And beyond the celebrated Schubert sonata, composers have hardly written anything for the arpeggione. Wouldn't be great if we could revive the arpeggione?

@@jacks5kids Check out the "guitar-viol"

@@jacks5kids But the Guitar Viol is a Modern Arpeggione

Long dark winter nights!

Check out microtonal guitars.

Is it tolgahan çoğulu?

It's called true temperament and it's actually useless

​@@pitmezzari2873 True Temperament use a single squiggly fret wire per fret, and I don't believe that they make frets for classical instruments anyway - I don't even know if they take custom orders. These look like split frets, so they were probably installed by the luthier who made the instrument.

Yesss exactly that's my feeling too!

With lack of knowledge on 19th century music, Everybody just simply follow the band wagon by worshipping Mozart, Beethoven and Rossini. They were like the rock stars at the time in Vienna. Schubert’s music is more complicated and intimate. His 1,500 pieces of compositions were more than the total of these 3 mentioned. To me he was the greatest composer in history hands down.

@@rockon416 I've always loved Schubert unquestionably, never understood the criticisms and hate. Do his critics not appreciate melody or intimate vulnerability? He's always been a complete and ingenious composer despite his compositional deficits. You are the first person I've ever encountered to label him as "the greatest" - I believe that to be Beethoven, but I'm beyond thrilled you hold your opinion. ❤

@@erika6651. Thank you your thoughtful reply. Beethoven who I also admire died at 56 with 722 works; Schubert died at 31 with over 1,500. It would’ve been scary if Schubert had lived another 25 years. What would god given genius created. Month before death, Ludwig had a chance to see Schubert’s composition and said, “this Schubert there dwells a divine spark!” Schubert’s death at such young age was a tragedy to humanity. His secular vocal works alone was 600. 7 symphonies, sacred music, operas, large body of piano and chamber music. He could’ve followed Beethoven and composed more grandiose pieces but he preferred more intimate works including many solemn and serene music as he witnessed deaths of several siblings and his mother at an early age. His 4 hands piano Fantasy in F minor is exquisitely brilliant and superior to any others 4 hands piano. All the popular composers before, during and after Schubert had the support of rich patrons and nobles; Schubert had none other than his royal friends. For this reasons alone to me he was the greatest.

@@rockon416 I have to agree. Schubert is my favorite composer, too. Regards,

Disagree. Shrill and indistinct, compared to the cello, like a clavichord when compared to a modern piano...

@@CLASSICALFAN100 I prefer clavichords. I like their fruity, crisp tone. Plus some have sympathetic strings which add a sort of echo, reverb effect. Here's an example of what I'm talking about ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZyUjOrmmfXE.html

@@CLASSICALFAN100 it really depends on the piece and personal taste. I prefer cello in this piece just like you, but that rendition misses out on the 6 string pizzicato and thinner sound of the arpeggione 🤷‍♂️. These old instruments have moments where they shine.

You lucky person

strange , arpeggione tone seems to me way more agressive than cello, those high aliquotes are quite annoying to my ear, cello seems more mellow to me... It's just the way i feel it, usually people say the sound of arpeggione , da gamba, d'amour is so smooth and precious but to my ear it feels really annoying, like a buzzing mosquito. It's quite refreshing to hear this on another instrument but I cannot imagine listening it for an hour. Cello on the other hand..

Viola da gamba...

Never heard it on bass. I agree that freted bowed instruments sound more harsh or metallic than non freted.

@@nocturnallsnake4228 It is the best on bass actually, imo

Martin Říha i agree it produces a quite piercing sound

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Te recomiendo escuchar la interpretación de Daniil Shafran... es quien llevó esta obra a su máxima esplendor.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the fortepiano typically has wooden sounding board, while the piano has a metal one. This has a big effect on the tone quality as well as volume. Much of the music of Mozart's time was meant to be played in the home, rather than the concert hall and the fortepiano suits a smaller space. But as music moved to large concert halls more powerful instruments were needed.

@@editionsrameau9016 no, fortepianos were played in concert halls, clavichords were played at home

​@@editionsrameau9016Soundboard on modern (grand)pianos is still wooden. There is cast iron frame put onto that to withstand the high tension of the more modern steel strings etc...

it precisely is because of the frets; on a fretted instrument the stopped notes ring out as clearly (or close to as clearly) as an open string does. The frets don't even have to be metal to make a significant difference; tie a few pieces of nylon/gut round a violin's neck, and you will hear plucked notes ring out as clearly as a mandolin

Fingers are spongy, soft, squishy things. Plucking a string stopped by a finger generates pretty much the same effect as deliberate palm muting on a guitar, producing a much faster decay, with a strong rolloff in the upper harmonics. For a bowed instrument, on which the string is constantly being supplied new energy by the bow, this makes little difference, if anything it's advantageous, mellowing up the tone slightly, and removing unwanted resonances. When an instrument is plucked though, frets make all the difference (in layman's terms, it's the difference between a _plonk_ and a _driiing_ haha)

A real arpeggione and a fortepiano:Schubert meant that particular sound!😊

We do! Or at least we have a modern day equivalent. It's called a Guitarviol. They're made by Togaman Guitars. They're mostly used for film scores. It would be nice to hear this Sonata played on one of those as well. :-)

Callum Wilde they are awkward to hold and because it has so many strings they are hard to get much sound out of without hitting more than one at once

@Oscar S. The Gadget guy Circuts & strings No. 2 which makes advanced string crossings impossible

@Oscar S. The Gadget guy Circuts & strings No. 2 all high quality bridges are custom. A more curved bridge has it's own set of issues.

the only arpeggione piece that survive is this

I had exactly the same thought, and like viola da gamba it also has 6 strings and frets. Since my daughter plays the viola da gamba, I will suggest her to work on it : thus she will have the opportunity to play romantic music :-)

Like a viola da gamba, but with perhaps a brighter and more piercing tone with less of the characteristic hum of the gamba. It's certainly interesting.

Yes, I've thought the same.

It's basically a small version of the violone - a member of the gamba family that survived until the mid 19th century because there wasn't a playable bass version of the violin and therefore wasn't phased out by the violin family. I think the arpeggione was first made in the early 19th century, and by that time the violone had somewhat evolved from its gamba past. Perhaps that's why it's slightly different to the original gambas

@@gyrocompa that's very cool. It it a hobby or does/did she study period music?

Thank you for your comment!

Nicolas Deletaille Nicholas, I had neither heard of you, the instrument nor the music until this morning. I am constantly amazed to become aware of music I had never heard previously. Bless you for your skills.

Mozart had a pitchfork manufactured in Vienna resonating at 421,6 for his own fortepiano; it was definitely an option for Schubert to own similar one.