@@frozencowboy6552 That is the problem with reboots with only one actor that is constant from the original. Niles is the character that really carried the show, and without him the series just isn't like it was. Frasier interacting with Niles made the show along with the father and Daphne. They all played off each other well and made the show interesting. To only have Frasier is disappointing and Lilith wasn't really a big part of the show so her reappearance doesn't help much. IMPO they would have done well to have the show in the same city with the same places and some minor repeats. Trying to have Frasier carry the show in another city I just can't see it.
Lilith went into Hot Topic for Freddie's Goth phase, is at the bowling alley for Freddie's birthday, and so likely also suffered through Jurassic Park for Freddie in the 90s.
@@anon5263According to the Frasier universe, Frederick was born in 1989, and JP1 was released in 1993 as PG-13. It's thus very unlikely that the cinema staff would've allowed a 4-year-old to attend a screening. However, for mitigation, it's not unthinkable that Lilith attended a screening alone, for vetting purposes.
I like the New Frasier and hope people will give the first season time to develop the characters. The first season of any comedy is a tough one and character development will take place. People need to remember this is not the old show and young actors need their chance to shine. Playing both to a young and older audience. Give them time for development. Love the new Freddy!
As much as I like Frasier and Lilith, I still think it's sad that network producers insist on bringing back one vintage sitcom after another instead of encouraging and accepting brand new shows. I guess the imagination just isn't there. That's why God gave us cable I suppose.
I've been watching this for a little bit tonight I respect it because I love Frasier, I think it's a show and a sitcom that has its own comedy and I happen to enjoy it, if they dropped the laugh track it'd be better, classic man they really are, I don't care too much for it , there's something about sitcoms filmed today and the way they're written it just doesn't have that same spark anymore.
Best episode so far, very well done. The show is really hitting it's stride so it's too bad there's only 10 episodes this season. I'm into the characters now and Lilith was great as always.
@@earlsmith7428 Why? She looks ancient. Hadn't colored her hair. Neither did Frazier. And at this point the dating bit is too d-mn old. Also Freddy is Not in good character. All the two did together to give Freddy the proper life, best education and he goes for Civil Service position as a fireman. This is a big bummer.
@@eloiseockert9233 Just being sentimental I suppose. I like Bebe Newirth as Lilith, and it's fun to see her again. What Freddy is doing is an act of rebellion due to something that happened at Harvard. We may find out later.
@@eloiseockert9233 Why should they color their hair? It's been 20 years, both in the series and real life. People age, people change. And the dating part. People don't stop dating just because they are older now, so why would that not be a part of the series. And even if Freddy got the best education and "proper" life, he would obviously go a different way if he felt like it when he got older, and they said in an interview that they decided to make him a firefighter to pay tribute to martin who was a policeman. I think the show got better towards the last few episodes and hopefully it will continue to evolve and develop into something just as hilarious as the old frasier. hopefully more of the original cast will join or visit the show if more seasons gets picked up.
@@kevinfelton689 I watched a few episodes on a free trial and it was painful. The original ensemble was what made the show and excellent writing. Hope reboots are done.
@@michelmadaire Niles was great, no doubt. The lack of depth brought by John Mahoney is also sorely missed. There is just something - missing. The soul, the intelligence, the depth of the cast. It's a beer buddy uneducated comedy with Crane in it. Fredrick's actor his his 'girlfriend' are forgettable characters. They are uninteresting cardboard. We want to see Fraiser employ his wit and the subtle pokes that make fun of the intellectual class, not cry over his shortcomings. We laughed at times at Fraiser's oblivious snobbery. Now, we feel pity for him. Those are my big takeaways.
Well, he made the producers of this one crack up irreparably when he told them how much he wanted. After they recovered, they wished him well and closed the door.
For those American viewers not familiar with Nicholas Lyndhurst, he is a much loved English actor, and one hugely important part of one of the best and most-loved British comedies 'Only Fools and Horses'.
@@eloiseockert9233 , his father, but with richer taste. He’s mellowed; gotten a more cozy lifestyle, but still more stylish than his dad. Speaking of his jeans and sneakers; my father went through that sort of change after retirement. Because as you get older, it,s more comfortable.
I do not like how they made Lilith in this continuation. During the end of Frasier, there was absolutely zero hint, that animosity between Frasier and Lilith had gotten worse, if anything it had gotten far better that they valued each other deeply as good trustworthy friends. And for them to end up insulting and sniping at each other as though their divorce was last week, makes absolutely no sense. I'm sorry, but as a Frasier and Cheers loyalist, this is not Lilith at all.
It's like De Vinci after completing the Mona Lisa producing a painting of the same woman now shouting angrily at a group of children. Just leave works of art alone.
I didn't like seeing Lillith like this. She was over the top stern, like her last name here, and she seemed bitter. I thought she had softened a bit. I would like to see David's character developed more and perhaps have Daphne come back.
This show has reset every character development that ever took place. It's absurd to the point that it alienates me, as if I'm watching an entirely different show that happens to remind me of Frasier from time to time.
@eloiseockert9233 nicholas lyndhurst (the actor who plays alan) was on a very popular british comedy called “only fools and horses”, where he played a character called rodney trotter. rodney had a friend called mickey pearce who dressed like alan in this scene. if you haven’t seen only fools and horses, it is well worth watching. it is considered one of the best british comedy shows.
Cant see the point of a reboot the bits ive seen dont make me want to watch. I thought Frasier ended perfectly with Frasier going off to the love of his life and thats where i like to think of him. Lilith and Frasier were friends at the end too. Glad David H P and Jane Leeves didnt want to return very wise leave their story where it was.
I know the old show practically by heart. This one is good, but one of its major flaws is that the storyline is never about any of the other characters. In the old show, an entire episode would be about Roz, or Daphne, or Martin, or Niles. Now it’s all about one relationship - Frasier and Freddie’s. Maybe that will change as the series progresses.
Huge fan of Cheers & Frasier, but sorry I've not had a single LOL moment through 7 episodes. Makes me wonder if the production is using a laugh track. IMHO, I wish the Reboot would have taken an entirely different direction - drama first with a touch of humor. Imagine the drama concerning first responders (life & death, tragedy), education (in today's social media world), mental health with Frasier's humor mixed in. Through 7 episodes, the only emotional reaction I got was shedding a tear when Frasier & Freddy reminisced about Martin in episode 1. MASH was brilliant - surgeons trying to save lives in the Korean War when armies were trying to destroy each other; and All In The Family - Archie the bigot dealing with social changes in the 70's - dramedy at its best.
I just cannot embrace this program. Even Kelsey and Bebe's lines seemed forced. Lilith was never portrayed as frumpy. Eve, David and the head of Frazier's department seem totally irrelevant. Freddy's co-workers show a lot of comedic potential; but, the show as a whole is a grave disappointment.
The background decor is everything! This is terrible. Why do you think Fraser or Friends worked? It was 50% the set design. This is making my eyes watering. Please stop it. It even wrecked the old Fraser for me and I watched it every morning on Channel 4 for the last 10 years.
"I must go - I have a riverboat to catch"- a line that's apparently so hilarious that the studio audience's laughter turns into applause... To be fair, sitcoms do use this manipulative tactic now...
Lilith looks like death, not an improvement to other bad actors and bad screen writings, bad "comedy" writings, poor laugh track, bad scenery etc... were they paid for this?
Ideal for Frasier's nephew David. David befriends a girl who reminds Frasier of an old friend from CHEERS. The girl is an otaku and goes to a different college. David and the girl only want to be friends, but Freddy suspects that David and his girlfriend will become a couple. The father of the girl is a highly respected politician.
sorry, kelsey grammar has lost his acting chops obviously due to age.. staring off, eyes looking around , not focused...shame really. bebe newirth acting is still top notch, should of made the show around her and had frazier on once in a while as a cameo
What is missing from Frederick is that he is TOO NORMAL. It would have been great if he had flashbacks of his childhood, or maybe where as normal as he tried to be his inner nerd keeps popping out, or if he periodically can't help correcting his friends.
Didn't like it at all....they did nothing but insult and wasn't funny ....on the original they wouldn't just insult each other. there conversations/comments were funny and actually had some substance..not just mean spirited jabs......writing hasn't been as thoughtful but guess you can't expect it with what they had before... still worth watching
STILL not making me laugh. It’s the overblown audience laughter… it’s just not letting you get a second to process the joke. It’s all too much. Mediocre writing spewing out at lightning speed. The ship has sailed for me, I was hoping this would be good. I really was.
Frasier used to have such intelligent jokes. I really cared about the characters. I don’t give a damn about his son, just like I didn’t give a damn about Ros from the first run. It’s like those characters only exist to appeal to the Normies, well, I’m not a normie, I’m a weirdo. It was also such a great emotional show too had wonderful dramatic moments.
First of all, they should have dumped the laughter...even if it's a live audience. Nowadays the best sitcoms do not have laught tracks or audiences that laugh at everything....funny or not. Makes the show seem even more jaded than it is.
Frasier's apartment is dark, harsh and depressing, Freddie's is awful, every set is unusually ugly. These are places I don't want to be. There is no affection between any of the characters. Martin and Frasier were opposites and the friction was a source of humor and they showed love and respect for each other. Freddie just hates his father and thinks he is better than him. Everybody in this cast is mean spirited toward each other and that isn't funny. The actor who plays Freddie is not likeable at all. His behavior says "LOOK AT ME BEING FUNNY" but he isn't. The cast on the original show was spectacular, this cast has no chemistry - they all come across as mean except the actress who plays Eve but she simply isn't a good actress or funny. They need to drastic things to fix this.
All the incidental characters are idiots. The main characters are childish and play charachatures of themselves. The writing is awful as nothing is set up over time. Joke.... laugh. Joke... laugh. Joke.... laugh. This is not a sit com. It is stand up comedy with canned laughter.
