Freeze Dried Little Debbie// Oatmeal Creme Pie, HO HOs, Swiss Rolls, Nutty Buddy

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Little Debbie snacks have been around for about 60 years now. Has anyone ever freeze dried little debbie? Not that i know of. We try Nutty Buddy, Chocolate Cupcakes, Swiss Rolls (ho ho's), Star Crunch and Oatmeal Creme Pies.
Chocolate does not usually do well in the freeze dryer, but what if we turn the shelf temperature down below the point at which chocolate melts? Little Debbie must have some really powerful chemicals in those oatmeal creme pies, because after 24 hours in the Harvest Right, they were still flexible....impressive. My conclusion is that Little Debbie doesn't need to be freeze dried. There is so much nasty stuff in them, they would store for 20 years with no freeze drying. But damn, are they good.
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@apotter4343 Год назад

The chocolate in Debbie cakes have a wax base that will not allow it to work (I work in a Debbie cake factory)

@diegodelgado9764 4 дня назад

i feel like i tasted the waxy taste on the zebra cakes and ignored it

@alonjohnson2132 3 года назад

I watch with anticipation, like the rest of you, to see the outcome. All the while thinking to myself, here we are trying to preserve an item that probably has a shelf life of 25 years as is. One does not always have to mess with perfection 😄

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

Ha! You are right. What scares the 💩 out of me is how can this last that long?

@felsinferguson1125 2 года назад

@@live.life.simple. Sugar. And sugar. And more sugar. And some preservatives. Put enough sugar in it, keep the moisture low, and ANYTHING can have a shelf life of 20+ years.

@0akgrove 2 года назад

@@live.life.simple. have you ever found a McD's French fry in a car that may be several years old, nothing has grown on it.... that is scary.

@CB-sr8ee Год назад

Truth 🤣🤣

@jasonmacneil2256 2 месяца назад

Theres NO WAY I would have left the plastic on the cakes. But I love that you did the cupcakes and they turned out great!!!!

@rachael11 2 года назад

I really just want an oatmeal creme pie now.

@TheRabbitHoleGoesDeep 4 месяца назад

Could you please show what setting you are using each time as far as candy setting or regular settings on the main screen. I just purchased a harvest right medium freeze dryer and still learning. I just put a bunch of different candies in mine!! So fingers crossed 🤞 My first batch was fruit and it came out great my children and grandchild looooves the fruit as a snack!! Much better than unhealthy snacks for sure!! Well worth the money I spent on the freeze dryer!! Hope to see those settings your using on all the different foods you try!! And maybe a pinned comment on the other previous videos. Please 🙏

@mac11380 Год назад

Maybe try doing Oreos. Freeze dried Oreos dipped in milk just sounds right.

@DonnaMP04 2 года назад

You can do Milk Duds individually in mini cupcake papers and they're awesome

@m_e_t_5744 3 года назад

That is a great idea putting the pillow in and then the seal. Thanks

@bonafideslacker2626 2 года назад

Agreed, excellent tip.

@pmbramucci1056 3 года назад

When I saw the title, I prayed this would work out. Waiting with bated breath!

@jew-el1 Год назад

😂😂

@StefaneJaspering 3 года назад

Thank you so much for creating the group on FB. Don’t know what I would do without it. It’s such a wonderful community of kind people who are willing to help each other ♥️ there is sooooo much to this freeze drying stuff. I’m overwhelmed 😫

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

It has been great! So many smart folks and lots with years of experience

@amyrevett3189 2 года назад

I seen a lady do Milk Duds and it worked!

@nicoleguss162 Год назад

Costco double chocolate chip muffins cut in small squares worked great.

@ymrelang 2 года назад

I FD croissants filled with chocolate. They came out AMAZING!

@live.life.simple. 2 года назад

That sounds great!

@sandys.1891 Год назад

Tell me more. Did you FD them whole? In pieces? I love croissants & if you can pave the way to FD them I'll be forever grateful.

@ymrelang Год назад

@@sandys.1891 I cut them in two pieces and place them in the freezer. Then, to the freeze drier.

@scotts595 3 года назад

Thanks for trying and sharing.

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

You bet

@sfishback56 3 года назад

Ordered my Harvest Right last week. This is something I have been wanting to get for many years and decided to pull the trigger. Found your channel in a search for successes and failures freeze drying. Thank you for the content you are providing.

@melissac3618 3 года назад

Congrats on your new freeze dryer! I have the same story- wanted one for years, finally got it this year. Ordered July 16th and just arrived on November 5th, so when they say it'll arrive in 10-12 weeks they really mean 12-15 weeks. Either way, it arrived just on time for me to be out of town for the weekend 🙄 but now have my first batch running. Just corn, been running almost 9 hours but definitely looks good.

@sfishback56 3 года назад

@@melissac3618 Congrats to you also!Good to know on delivery time, so I’ll figure on March delivery. If it comes before then BONUS!!

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

Wonderful! Congrats on your purchase. We have 2 freeze drying groups that are very helpful mewe.com/join/retiredat40sfreezedryinggroup facebook.com/groups/retiredat40livelifesimple

@Linda-qq5mg 2 года назад

It seems as though chocolate cake would work! Perhaps brownies would work also! Thanks for a very interesting fun video.

@topotexas469 3 года назад

Clip the individual wrappers corners vacuum seal in wide mouth jars with food saver. Oatmeal pies and nutty butters 3 years old fresh as day one.

@AuntieEm30805 3 года назад

Well that was fun!

@deejones6805 3 года назад

Dang, I was really hoping this would work. You had all the family faves on there and my personal fave, the nutty buddy. Well, there goes that! Keep on trying the snack stuff. Those of us with kids, and a sweet tooth would love to see what items we can add to our list! Great work as always!

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

I was also rooting for the nutty buddy! Guess i will just have to stock up

@melinaz3385 3 года назад

I've dehydrated angel food cake and put it in mylar for camping, hydrates great with strawberry sauce! but, have you tried cutting slices of angel food cake and dehydrating them into sticks or cubes?

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

I just had some angel food cake last night at a birthday party and wondered how it would do.

@robininva 3 года назад

Ho-Hos are my absolute favorite...and I still call them that. ❤️

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

They are soooo good.

@Flyingbananal 3 года назад

Swiss rolls (little Debbie brand) are sooooo much better than ho hos (hostess brand)! So much softer

@robininva 3 года назад

@@Flyingbananal Ah, of course they are Hostess brand! Good call! Regardless....I could eat my weight in those yummy rolls. I even buy Food Lion brand and enjoy those. ❤️

@tonycaudle 3 года назад

Maybe they can't call them ho hos anymore 😂😂😂. That statement made my day lol

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

you never know these days😃

@thetightwadhomesteader3089 3 года назад

@@live.life.simple. isn't that the truth. People get offended over everything...they better hope things don't crash as they better toughen up or well...

@MrGundawindy 3 года назад

Whn I was a kid we used to have lollies that were a sugar stick shaped like a cigarette, even down to a red colouring on one end. They were called Fags (because that used to be a slang term for cigarettes). In 1995 they renamed to Fads. I'm not sure how much of that was about the smoking aspect or the homosexual aspect, but it wouldn't surprise me if Ho-Ho's changed their name to not offend prostitutes. 😂

@mpenkivech1787 10 месяцев назад

He had me chuckling at “I didn’t t know where the other ones went”, lol!

@dolliestaley9222 Месяц назад

Ho-hos are a completely different brand than Swiss rolls

@BrendaHoward411 2 года назад

John in Bibs did a video with hot chocolate that worked well. He used 100% Dutch cocoa with chocolate chips, marshmallows and it turned out. Might have something to do with the type of chocolate… just thinking.

@adamstevenson2485 3 года назад

Keep on making the freeze dryer videos I love them. But I would also love to see you make a video on how to retire at 40.

@halfcrazyoldchristianredne895 3 года назад

Finally got one of mine set up and going. Had to get adapters for my vacume pumps. So far have done cheese and sweet onions. Trays were maximum loaded, but came out perfect in 23 hrs. I thought they took alot longer. Amzing.

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

Nice!!

@summerbrane6492 10 месяцев назад

Here I am, watching this as my oatmeal cream pies, swiis rolls & strawberry Shortcake rolls are in my freezedryer, on the last few hours of the extended cycle. *sigh* I just pulled them out. I should have watched this before I experimented. Love your videos so much!

@aliciahoward1598 Год назад

I have also done the chocolate filled marshmellows and they were completely dry inside. And the cream in the cupcake does how the ice cream sandwiches do. Dry and powdery

@zalog8036 3 года назад

I bought the exact same set up as your new freeze dryer... I have already ran 8 loads with number 9 running as I write this comment lol keep up the great work and by the way I'm a huge fan of the new premier vacuum pump, 8+ runs and the oil is still clear👍

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

Me too! Premier is the way to go! Congrats on the purchase

@dianemoncushunter Год назад

I did the Christmas trees I should have cut them. But after the sat they were great. But the gingerbread cookies was fantastic

@denisecoffey6269 Год назад

Good video thanks

@live.life.simple. Год назад

You got it! 👍

@ShadowFireChronicles Год назад

I bet twinkies would be awesome freeze dried!

@Hman0762 29 дней назад

They are!❤

@Angel283 3 года назад

So how do you re-hydrate things like this?

@paulcalkins9031 2 года назад

What do you do with the water that you get from the freeze dryer?

@floridastitcher1 2 года назад

Do would you soak them in something to hydrate them before eating?

@MrGundawindy 3 года назад

I am planning on buying a freeze dryer, so haven't experienced it yet, but I have made chocolate. There is absolutely no water in chocolate, so it is already dry as it can be. The beans are fermented and then roasted before the chocolate is made, so all the water is removed in the roasting process. Peanut butter is the same. The peanuts are roasted dry befoer they are ground into a butter, so they have no more water to lose. I am looking forward to experimenting with some weird stuff too. Not everything has to be a success to be worth trying.

@usmctattooboy 3 года назад

I would love to see more snack items that might work a little better like pop tarts or Nutella

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

noted, thank you

@swampfaye 3 года назад

Nutella, like peanut butter, isn't going to do very well. Too much oil.

@susanhunter8272 3 года назад

Can I take from this that brownies, unfrosted, or cake rolls, unfrosted would freeze dry well? How would you rehydrate them or do you just eat crunchies? It looks like fondant chocolate will freeze (cupcakes); have you seen this to be true?

@Sunshine-tc2vj 3 года назад

I just freeze dried chocolate gluten free brownies yesterday. They dried well with no problems-24 hours. They are hard as a rock and hard to eat. I currently have one wrapped in a damp paper towel in the fridge overnight. I have high hopes!

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

Cool. Let me know. Ingredients could make all the difference

@cathydavis9259 Год назад

Milk Duds were great!!!! Keep them seperate, they really puff up.

@rrsavage6544 3 года назад

Love your videos. I’m new to the Harvest Right world. Can you do a video on the whys, when, and how’s of the customize feature?

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

The newest software does not allow as much tinkering as the old did. I will add it to my list of videos though. Congrats on your purchase.

@Ryan-be8jf 3 года назад

@@live.life.simple. that would be awesome can't wait for mine to get here

@dianawortman4994 2 года назад

Do you suppose that the amount of paraffin wax in the chocolate makes a difference as to whether or not the chocolate dries?

@CXonthefly 2 года назад

You know the scene from Little Rascals when he's chewing the sandwich with kitty litter well that sounds pretty similar to this

@jeffcraig5462 3 года назад

Mentioned this to the spousal unit who is a process control geek. Said the poor results with the chocolate could be the high percentage of emulsifiers in them. Try buying cocoa nibs that are just cocoa butter and powder. They should work or at least perform better.

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

will do! thanks

@armymom128 3 года назад

Wonder about rice krispies treats?

@cerebralserpents 2 года назад

The new freeze dryers have 2 hr dry times pre programmed into them instead of 10hr dry time. I just bumped mine up to 10hrs in the settings.

@PreparedParrot Год назад

Try freeze drying s batch of sugar free Russel Stovers chocolate caramels..they puffed up and we're amazing ..

@jerrysmith372 3 года назад

Thanks Brian for taking one for the teem. I don't do chocolate because of videos like yours - no one that I know of has had success. I do appreciate what you do and use your failures as a guide for my own freeze drying. I've had to learn a few things myself the hard way. In the small freeze drying community people tend to share their experiences with others both good and bad. Thank you for supporting a platform for people to share. As for me I don't do "Fake Book" and limit myself to the comment section on YT. Currently doing 4 pounds of strawberries, 3 pounds of Raspberries, and one can of Pineapple rings - It's a bit under loaded for a large dryer but that's all I bought. Previous load was 5 trays of Banana slices that the grand kids were asking for. Maybe 12 pounds after pealing and slicing. I have 20 pounds of potato's and 5 pounds of carrots lined up for the next 2 batches. My last fail was with ice cream - it blew up like a sponge - too crumbly. Do you think lowering the tray warming would make a difference? I hate to think of lowering the temp - my cycle times are typically between 34 and 50 hours in my large dryer. But it does hold much more food = more water. I look forward to your next video. Thanks again for the work that you do.

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

i think ice cream needs to be very very frozen to start and lower shelf temp

@jerrysmith372 3 года назад

@@live.life.simple. Thank you Brian - I will give it a go. I do have some that is VERY frozen - I'll try to get to it before I eat it all. Do you have a suggestion for shelf temp? Low as possible maybe?

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

@@jerrysmith372 The lowest the new software will go is 75. I think the key is to get it through the initial super freeze before it starts melting.

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

@@jerrysmith372 not sure when they switched over, but the new FD'ers get colder than the old ones.

@jerrysmith372 3 года назад

@@live.life.simple. I would agree - I'll have to pre-freeze the chamber to about -25.

@sweett4rt 2 года назад

Seems to me that making your own chocolate sponge cake roll then cutting it into 1 inch slices and freeze drying it would be the way to go. You would know what your ingredients were and I bet it would taste great. Plus you could make your cake rolls and fillings in different flavors.

@ruffledfeathersquailfarm1092 Год назад

I would love to see freeze dried banana bread and zucchini bread

@kmaynor16 3 года назад

Thank you for the video! I was really, really hoping those nutty buddies could be freeze-dried. Ah well, maybe one day you will figure out how to freeze-dry chocolate. Keep trying!

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

I hope so too!

@ms.anonymousinformer242 3 года назад

I air sealed those in a mason jar and they stayed fresh for months.

@tonyafaulkner5526 3 года назад

Hostess makes Ho Hos. Little Debbie's are Swiss cakes rolls.

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

Makes sense HO HO HOSTESS😃

@3rdEyeGnostic 2 года назад

Too much, hahahaha

@chingpilipchuk 2 года назад

Have you tried freeze drying buttermints? Please let me know. I appreciate your freeze drying experiments and learned a lot here :)

@lynnprovost1779 3 года назад

I thought why not make your own desserts and freeze them chocolate will freeze on that I bet because of the simple fact that it doesn't have all those extra additives and preservatives to keep it from freeze drying I think it'd be cool to see what real whipped topping would do you know the kind you make it home God bless you dude I love you so it's awesome I just started watching and keep up the good work I would absolutely love to see you do a cake I know you have to splice it but you can slice it into individual servings it'd be great watch anyway God bless you

@faithcolbert6549 10 месяцев назад

What setting did you put this on

@AddictOfLearning 3 года назад

This is the first time I have heard about the shelf temperature. Do you have a video that talks more on this? I assumed it wouldn't put add any heat until you start defrosting the machine.

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

I don't have a video on shelf temp, but almost every time, you re fine without messing with it. Ice cream or things that have a tendency to melt easy, is the exception.

@cherisesaxton3304 Год назад

Now that they have a new update, should you use the candy mode??

@hairtiecoocoo Год назад

What about doing these types of items under the candy mode?

@dianefoxen1708 3 года назад

I ordered a freeze dryer last night after watching some of your videos then I saw on one section to order FD through your link. Is there any way I can give the credit to you. I love your videos.

@tennesseedanielauthor1825 3 года назад

Call Harvest Right customer service and ask to see if they can remedy that and give the credit.

@aliciahoward1598 Год назад

I did the chocolate cupcakes and the swiss roll. The cupcake dried all the way and the cream on the swiss roll was still creamy

@yadayada752 2 года назад

I think dark chocolate might work better in some situations.

@swampfaye 3 года назад

I did ding dongs sliced like bread, prefrozen, 125 drying temp and they came out fine.

@marvinmoye8507 3 года назад

Can you provide the manufacturer’s information for the meter you used to measure Kilowatt hrs.

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

This is the one i use. It has a nice backlit display and you can set your KWH price amzn.to/3eSLINO

@avonleanne 3 года назад

interesting...however, since they are so full of preservatives, I think if I absolutely had to save some, I would either mylar or food saver bag these up, putting just a pin hole in the wrappers and using oxygen absorbers, or removing oxygen with the food saver...sometimes if life is horrible, its kinda nice to know you have something saved from when life was better, but only as a treat =)

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

You never know. If times got tough, something like a little debbie could boost moral and lift some spirits to push on.

@thatandthese 3 года назад

Can you tell me what you have your freeze dryer and pump on? I've gone through three trays and they all sink. THanks!

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

Do you mean what are the sitting on? I have a laminate counter top under them.

@thatandthese 3 года назад

@@live.life.simple. Yes, thanks! I thought it was a tray. I ended up buying a heavy duty work bench.

@jenniferlinden9418 3 года назад

Have you ever tried to freeze dry jello pudding or whip cream?

@stephaniewarren6133 2 года назад

Jello pudding mix is already shelf stable on its own, you can just prepare it w/ reconstituted powdered milk. If you're mostly looking for whipped cream to be shelf stable, you can actually buy hermetically sealed ultra-pasturized cartons of heavy cream. Trader Joe's sells them, I'm sure you could find it elsewhere. Obvs takes up more space/weight than if you could dry it, but is at least shelf stable.

@pamjenkinson5718 3 года назад

I’ve seen Milk Duds which were covered in chocolate. She said she let them cool and chocolate firmed up 🤷🏻‍♀️

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

Milk duds work excellent

@USSBARBEL 3 года назад

@Retiredat40, I have a question/thought. You don't know what your starting liquid is in these cakes. What if you make a... a chocolate cake with chocolate icing... or a carrot cake - whatever. But note how much water, milk, eggs is used in the recipe - weigh them. Then see what the entire cake (or a slice of cake.... measured so you know the percentage of the whole cake that it is) weights before processing and after running the freeze dry process - that should give you some ideas. Also, just do chocolate icing on a sheet of butcher paper, weighed before and after.... see how much it drops in weight - should give you an idea of % of water loss.

@Hman0762 29 дней назад

Just have to ask if you are perhaps overthinking the entire process? Put it in take it out bag it.

@USSBARBEL 29 дней назад

@@Hman0762 undoubtedly. I overthink everything. I get paid to do that. 😁

@egomaniac8510 Год назад

If you have trouble with chocolate try using carob. Find it at your health stores.

@nobullshiit5682 Год назад

I wonder if you could freeze dry beer /?

@marksears6480 2 года назад

I wear food handling gloves to keep things sanitary

@beverlyyork383 3 года назад

The chocolate sidewalk ice cream works well. (smile) cannot keep them in the half gallon jars ... they disappear.

@JH-tj9jd 3 года назад

Chocolate sidewalk icecream? Is that a nickname for an icecream sandwich?

@sjacobxiii 2 года назад

I do not think you need to Freeze dry Debbie cakes. Have you not seen Zombieland? 😆 I think the shelf life is already 20 to 25 years ;)

@josephconroy8531 3 года назад

choc. pudding,fudge,or somthing filled with choc.

@gardnertimothyp Год назад

How long do these last in mylar bags?

@Hman0762 29 дней назад

20-35 yrs

@EggerJonathan Год назад

I like the 👕

@angelaferneau8280 2 года назад

I just bought my freeze dryer and it does not have the pillow, is that something on older machines?

@live.life.simple. 2 года назад

Yes. They stopped including them about 2 years ago

@pambarab5506 3 года назад

Little Debbie and chocolate are my guilty pleasures. I'm so sad right now.

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

I think they will store for a looooong time with all of the "ingredients" that they put in them

@pambarab5506 3 года назад

@@live.life.simple. I think I'm going to try the coconut coated Zingers. They might work.

@bopete6149 2 года назад

That processed crap so called food is the last thing I would want to preserve but I give you 👏 for trying.

@user-sn8cq4xp4k Год назад

I put ice cream in silicone molds. When i freeze dry them, they expand like caramels and make a real mess. Any explanation to what i am doing wrong. My first batch turned out fine but subsequent batches are a no-go.

@terrytidwell1337 3 года назад

Have you freezed dried ice cream sandwiches

@onekerri1 3 года назад

Chocolate pudding.

@aquisadventures514 3 года назад

How much ice build up occur? That usually indicates a successful freeze dry or not.

@BStrambo 3 года назад

None of these items would have much moisture to start with though...

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

not much. If the freeze dryer would pull out chemicals and preservatives there wouldn't be much left😂

@Maugrays Год назад

I think the difference between what works and what doesn't is water content. When you stop to think about it, chocolate doesn't really have any water. So when freeze drying it might be a good idea thinking about water content.

@live.life.simple. Год назад

It's not water content, it's the sugar, additives and the fact that it melts.

@vynaltheworld4092 Год назад

What about fugde rounds

@TheRealBrianJames 3 года назад

Also I have an idea to FD chocolate. Melt it try to water it down with 1 part chocolate and 3 parts water. I’ll try it and let you know

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

please do

@karenhoak2771 3 года назад

I don’t think water and chocolate mix very well. How about milk?? I don’t have my FD yet. Coming in about a month. 😬

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

@@karenhoak2771 Congrats on the purchase! Learn everything you can and you will be a pro by the time it gets to you.

@jonathangilbert7808 Год назад

I know this is like 2 years late, but Ho Hos are a Hostess brand snack. Swiss Rolls are Little Debbie. So you are correct. They are "just Little Debbie's version of the Ho Ho.

@live.life.simple. Год назад

Good to know

@vdgitaliano 2 года назад

No need to freeze dry chocolate, just keep coco powder, dried cream, sugar and bee's wax on hand to make your own.

@nikkimalone423 Год назад

Ho Ho’s are made by Hostes like Ding Dongs Twinkies etc

@Kustoadeeyun 3 года назад

Hostess makes HoHos; it’s easy to remember because Hostess begins with “Ho(s)”

@SharonRepici Год назад

Ding Dongs and Ho Hos are made by Hostess. I want to see raspberry/coconut Zingers and Twinkies!

@live.life.simple. Год назад

If you try it let us know!

@toddmachinery 3 года назад

R@40, I would like to mail a cool gift for your freeze dryer. how can this be done? love all the videos. Matt

@live.life.simple. 3 года назад

You can pm me through the facebook group.

@aviservin3284 Год назад

I would love for you to find a way to FD chocolate in some form. Has anyone tried freeze drying chocolate milk? Just a thought.

@live.life.simple. Год назад

I have done chocolate milk cereal bars ( I have a video). Spoiler -> IT WORKED

@wgspinto1 11 месяцев назад

what about something that has chocolate powder sprinkled on it

@badape3620 3 года назад

I would try twinkies

@crash5225 2 года назад

Can you "overcook" stuff in it?

@live.life.simple. 2 года назад

not really. Once water is removed fully, you can't pull anymore out. The machine is relatively "smart" and will tell you when the food is done with high accuracy

@lisabusby3394 29 дней назад

Ho hos are made by a different company. They are still sold by drakes.

@carolb3327 3 года назад

How did you retire at 40?

@samsmythe2207 Год назад

You didn’t try to rehydrate any?

@AKC2004 2 года назад

Need to try a twinkie.

@janepipia 7 месяцев назад

I have been watching your channel and others looking at freeze-drying as a small cottage industry. However, after watching and looking at local craft fairs, I find out that the market seems to be very saturated and only growing. What are your thoughts on a new venture as a small cottage industry.

@live.life.simple. 7 месяцев назад

not really my expertise, but there are entire facebook groups dedicated on just freeze dried candy and some foods. Certain markets are definitely saturated.