I had two maternal grand aunts who were foster mothers, in addition to being moms to their own children,so they were mothers to the community in that sense. ☺️🌹
Her, Harriette Winslow & Florida Evans Were The Toughest Sitcom/Black Sitcom Moms. They Not Only Showed Toughness When They Were Strict Towards The Kids, They Showed Toughness Dealing With Grownups/They Got Into Fights/Arguments/Were About To Fight Grown Ups & Men. Cliff & Claire Huxtable Never Got Into A Fight Or Argument With Grownups. Claire Was Only Snippy To Those Who She Had Control Over. She Supposedly Intimidated A Grown SondraIn An Episode That She Asked For The Tuition Money Sondra Owed Her & Cliff. Sondra & Elvin Were There & Claire Told Sondra You Better Empty Your Pockets. It's Not That Sondra Was Afraid, It's The Fact That Kids Are Respectful & Obedient. In The Episode When Sondra Had The Fly & Claire & Janice Took Sondra's Kids Without Her Permission & Sondra Went To The House To Confront Them & Putting Claire In Her Place. Aunt Viv Showed Toughness In This Episode & The Episode Will & Carlton Were Pulled Over & Arrested By Two Racist White Cops: If They Weren't Racist, They Were Ignorant & Incompetent. Florida Evans Showed Toughness When She Stood Up To Sweet Daddy & His Henchmen After They Came To Collect The $1,000 JJ Borrowed From Sweet Daddy To Pay For Thelma & Keith's Wedding. Another Episode Was Florida Standing Up To Mr. Frank Mitchell, The Father Of JJ's Art Student. Another Episode Was Florida About To Fight The Father Of JJ's Girlfriend Clarissa-Who Parents Didn't Approve Of Him-After The Parents Decided To Let JJ & Clarissa To Keep Seeing Each Other & They Went On McDonald's Date, Clarissa's Father Came To The Conclusion That JJ & Clarissa's Relationship Wasn't Going To Work Out, Florida Was About To Get His ***, Until James Held Her Back & Then James & Florida Told Them Both To Get The Hell Out Of Here. And Some More Kids Florida Showed Toughness Towards Were The Junior Warlords Who Forced Michael To Join, After Michael Took Down The Leader Ratbone, Florida Got That Baseball Bat & Fended The Other 3 Off. And Harriette Winslow, In This Episode, Carl, Harriette, Rachel & Mother Winslow Showed Toughness At The Same Time, After They Were Going To Visit Carl's Brother Calvin & It Was Snowing & The Car Broke Down, They Had No Heat, They Were Lost & They Didn't Know When Help Would Arrive-Carl Left Eddie In Charge. Eddie Cooked & Accidentally Burned The Dinner & When He Let Rodney In With A Couple Of Pizzas & Since Eddie Owed Rodney, The Rodney Invited 2 Girls Over & Then 40-45 More Kids, Throwing A Party. Laura Invited Some Friends Too Since Rodney Brought Two Girls Over At First, Because Eddie Had Friends Over. The Kids Messed Up The House & Were Tearing A Lot Of Things Up & Some Guys Were About To Fight & Playing Football. Eddie Tried To Stop Them, He Really Tried. When Carl, Harriette, Rachel & Mother Winslow Cane Home, They Scared All 50 Of Those Big Kids Away; After Carl Said, That's It, This Party Is Over -Most Of Them Were High School Kids & Some Were 18 & Over- Carl & Rachel Intimidated Those In The Living Room & Harriette & Mother Winslow Intimidated Those In The Kitchen(And Some Of Those Kids Were The Bigger Ones). That Was So Powerful They Didn't Even Show It. You Can Imagine What Harriette & Mother Winslow Said To 25 Big Kids, Many Whom Were Bigger Than Them. The Other Episodes Harriette Showed Toughness Were:. When Carl & Steve Were Competing Against Each Other On American Gladiators Against The Gladiators, When Carl was Competing Against Turbo In The Joust & Won That Round, Harriette Showed Toughness On National TC, Hitting Turbo With Her Purse For Hurting Carl;. Harriette Stood Up To Nick Neiderneyer & Was Ready To Fight Him-It Looked Like She Pushed Him With One Hand;. When They Went To Paris & Steve Was Kidnapped, Because The Kidnapper WantedThe Urk Pad & He Forced Steve To Build Him An Urk Pad & Test it Out, After They, He Realized That Steve Would End Up Somewhere Else & Get Away, So He Followed Steve,Holding hHim In A Football Tacking Position. They Ended Up In Carl & Harriett's Room & Steve Told Them Help, I'm Being Kidnapped. Carl Told The Guy Freeze(Pulling Out His Badge) & Gilbert Pulled His Gun In Carl & Harriette Knocked The Gun Out of His Hand & Was Beating Him With Her Purse (She Was Smart, Gilbert Is Taller Than Her, she Wasn't Taking Any Chances Of Him Overpowering Her & Pushing Her Down & Going For His Gun. Then Carl Was Beating His @$$. The Other Episode Was When Carl's Brother Frank Visited, Dressed As A Clown, Because He Was A Clown At The Carnival, He Asked Harriette To Give Him A Hug, Harriette Didn't Know Who He Was & She Was Ready To Fight a Total Stranger(With No Weapon). We Didn't See Harriette Deal With A Gang Because Family Matters Was So Positive That Eddie Was Never Forced To Join A Gang. We Saw Aunt Rachel, Rachel, Eddie Laura & Steve Deal With A Gang, Standing Up To The Dragons. And Officer Carl Winslow Dealt With Gang Violence Everyday & He Kicked A Lot Of @$$ & Intimidated A Lot Of Grown Men;. Carl & Steve Turned Into Bruce Lee In The Warehouse Taking On 10 Thugs Who Had 3 Weapons Each. Carl Showed Bravery When He Didn't Have T Dealing With Gangs & Criminals. We Can Imagine How Much Toughness He Showed Off-Camera At Work. Before Carl & Steve Turned Into Bruce Lee, Carl Made Those 10 Thugs Drop Their Visible Weapons, Then They Played Slick & Said You Didn't Mention Knives. Carl & Steve Went Back In Time To 1704 On The Pirate Ship & Had To Fight Pirates In Sword-Fighting; Carl, Steve, Laura, Myra & Maxine Had To Go Through 15 Pirates To Go Back In The Present-The Pirates Were Going To Make Them Walk The Plank. Carl Also Showed Toughness When They Were In Pars,He Took Down Gilbert & His 2 Partners, Giving Him, Steve & Nicole Enough Time To Escape. There's the Episode That Eddie & Waldo Went To The Bar, Where The Chicago Bulls'Players Hang Out & Carl Had To Arrest The Sh!tty Bar Owner. The Bar Owner & His 5 Employees Were All Standing Trying To Intimidate Carl, Carl Wasn't Scared, He Made it Known-They Were All Gangsta Until Carl Pulled Out His Badge-They All Backed Up It Was Every Man For Himself. Carl saved Steve's Life In The Hotel Room & In The Episode Carl & Steve Shared A Hospital Room, Carl Got Shot In The Butt & Steve Saved His Life-Carl Tried To Bust A Drug Dealer, Before Help Arrived For The Drug Dealer:. It's Obvious Carl Took On The Drug Dealer & His Boys, Until One Of Them Shot Him In The Butt. All The Winslow's & Steve Urkel Tough Sides Were Shown & Myra, Maxine & Eddie's Girlfriend Greta & 3, Even Waldo If He Wasn't Crazy When He Thought Guys Were Flirting With Maxine At The Small(Waldo Was Smaller)-Judy Was Sassy, Little Richie Stood Up To His Bully Timmy "The Terminator" The Biggest Kid In His Class & Richie, 3J & Steve Turned Into Bruce Lee To Fight The Piranhas On The Playground;. Grandma Winslow Also Flipped A Man When Carl & His Female Partner Were On A Stakeout Then Sting. Rachel Also Showed Toughness When Carl & Steve Were In The Hospital, when Lieutenant Murtagh Had His Arm Around Her, She Told Him You're Lucky, He Said I Am, She Said Yes, You Won't Have To Go Far For Medical Treatment. We Saw Laura, Myra & Maxine On The Pirate Ship Fighting Men In Sword &Fighting, 5 Against 15 & 3 oOf Them Being 21 Year Old Women. And Laura Stood Up To Her Boyfriends Daniel Wallace, Derek Who Eddie Fixed Her Up With & Jimmy Who Didn't Want Her Hanging Around Steve. Laura even Told All 3 Guys That She Was Going To Hurt Them & She Did Have To Elbow Derek In The Stomach. And Steve Urkel Took On Those Thugs In The Bar & At School When The Guys Were Teasing Eddie About Being A Virgin, Before That, Guys Challenged Steve To A Towel Fight & He Took On 6 Of Them. And Eddie Fought &Defeated Bull & He Was About To Beat Up Laura's Boyfriend Ted Curran & His Friends. Eddie Had A Reputation At School As A Tough Guy, That's Why Everyone Was Scared Of Him Nobody At School Messed With Him, Only Gangs Of Grownups-The Dragons,The Pool Hustler & His Friends & The Bar Owner & His Employees & A Big, Bones The Bookie. Bull The Bully Was Over 18 In Real Life. And Ted Curran, Weasel & The Other Guy Were Grown In Real Life.
@Giant Face Bork Laser A different generation with a different mindset not Disneyland just a respect for boundaries. I’m not saying no one ever crossed the line but if you did there was a price to pay for disrespecting the neighborhood moms.
Say what you want about this Aunt Viv being fired from the show, but I'll bet you this: none of them muthafuckas went to MacArthur's park that damn night, I know that much! LMAO!
Speaking of Friday, I think Anna Maria Horsford would have been a good second Aunt Viv. I know the cast likes the actress for Viv 2, but Anna Maria Horsford would have been great I think.
+trier4952 well by the time Viv 2 got on the scene the kids were alot older so she had to be calmer, she couldnt discipline more or less young adults..... ......however you are on to something with that because the episode with Pam Grier when she was supposed to be Uncle Phil's old longtime buddy but slept with Will, Aunt Viv 1.....would have been LIT.
Pie im not speaking real life, im speaking in terms of the character and on the show. It would have been interesting to see how aunt viv 1 would have handled all of the kids in their 20s and ashley as a older teen.
pamjam098 OG Aunt Vivian was the best and funniest. Shame she had to diva her way into the show. Didn't she notice she was starring in THE FRESH PRINCE OF BEL AIR, and not the THE SASSY AUNT OF BEL AIR? But at least GTA5's Aunt Denise , yo! Second Aunt Vivian was... Well, let's not talk about how lame and unfunny that actress was. Oops, I just did.
Dang, i remember when this aired. Lol. I love both Aunt Vivs, but I don't think the second actress could have pulled this scene off as convincingly. Perfect combination of strength and class.
Remember Will aunt Viv was also raised by the hood with her sisters growing up was not easy for uncle Phil and aunt Viv the two both become rich when they have children's of their own at that time Will was still a little kid when the family was still very poor but both uncle Phil and aunt Viv work hard to have a better life for their family they may become rich but the hood in their blood never leave them. ✊
This Aunt Viv & her sisters Jennifer Lewis, Vernee Christell Watson-Johnson & Charlayne Woodard had such good chemistry together having that sophisticated, yet street savvy straight outta Philly, was just like real sisters!
I imagine they didn’t want to kill off or divorce the character, so they just gave it an actress they liked to just exist while Uncle Phill stoke the show
This version of Aunt Viv was so much funnier and overall better than the one they replaced her with. The new one really didn't do anything of importance.
I loved this episode! Was I the only person who thought everyone was saying Magotha Park until I finally looked it up and realized they said McArthur lol
Question can Daphne Maxwell Reid do this??? HEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLL TO THE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! JANET HUBERT SLAYS AT AUNT VIVIAN!! A LEGACY THAT SHALL LIVE FOREVER!!
Aunt Viv: "In fact, NONE OF YOU are going to MacAurthur Park tonight! Chuck Norris: *Stands up* "Wait a minute!" Aunt Viv: "Boy! Do not test me!" Chuck Norris: *Sits down* "Yes m'am..."
I don't know why, but this reminded me of a meme that said something like "some parents claim they don't know how to control their misbehaving children when all I have to do is give off a mean stare and my kid(s) immediately gets silent."🤣
+IronAngel505 AMEN!! The level of her greatness that she had was DECORATIVE!! She was the best. You'd be blessed to have her as your mother. Especially in the 90s.
