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From Perfect to Plagiarized: Another Palworld Tier List! 🥵 An Honest Review? 

Lockstin & Gnoggin
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Be honest with your critiques and claims. This video is both a vloggy rant about the discussion surrounding Palworld and my thoughts on how I would rank every pal based on "Originality." Like with just about everything ever, there is always more nuance than a tweet or two can get across. These are just my 2000 cents, maybe you can convenience me otherwise in the comments?
Tier list image:
www.threads.net/@lockstin_gno...
Referenced interview:
note.com/pocketpair/n/n54f674...
Used GeorgeCrudo vid:
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Yell at me more here:
Twitter ➤ / lockstin
Additional Credits:
Lockstin Austin Lockwood
Video Editing: Fineapple Ryan Porter
#palworld #pokemon
Chapters:
00:00 uh oh intro
02:40 The Palworld Tier List
39:11 The Discussion Discussion
If we assume all the pals in Palworld are based on a Pokemon or Digimon or other such monster, then:
What is Lamball based on?
What is Cattiva based on?
What is Chikipi based on?
What is Lifmunk based on?
What is Foxparks based on?
What is Fuack based on?
What is Sparkit based on?
What is Tanzee based on?
What is Rooby based on?
What is Pengullet based on?
What is Penking based on?
What is Jolthog based on?
What is Gumoss based on?
What is Vixy based on?
What is Hoocrates based on?
What is Teafant based on?
What is Depresso based on?
What is Cremis based on?
What is Daedream based on?
What is Rushoar based on?
What is Nox based on?
What is Fuddler based on?
What is Killamari based on?
What is Mau based on?
What is Celaray based on?
What is Tocotoco based on?
What is Flopie based on?
What is Mozzarina based on?
What is Direhowl based on?
What is Bristla based on?
What is Gobfin based on?
What is Hangyu based on?
What is Mossanda based on?
What is Woolipop based on?
What is Caprity based on?
What is Melpaca based on?
What is Eikthyrdeer based on?
What is Nitewing based on?
What is Ribunny based on?
What is Incineram based on?
What is Cinnamoth based on?
What is Arsox based on?
What is Dumud based on?
What is Cawgnito based on?
What is Leezpunk based on?
What is Loupmoon based on?
What is Galeclaw based on?
What is Robinquil based on?
What is Gorirat based on?
What is Beegarde based on?
What is Elizabee based on?
What is Grintale based on?
What is Swee based on?
What is Sweepa based on?
What is Chillet based on?
What is Univolt based on?
What is Reindrix based on?
What is Pyrin based on?
What is Rayhound based on?
What is Dazzi based on?
What is Lunaris based on?
What is Dinossom based on?
What is Surfent based on?
What is Maraith based on?
What is Digtoise based on?
What is Tombat based on?
What is Lovander based on?
What is Flambelle based on?
What is Vanwyrm based on?
What is Bushi based on?
What is Beakon based on?
What is Ragnahawk based on?
What is Katress based on?
What is Wixen based on?
What is Verdash based on?
What is Vaelet based on?
What is Sibelyx based on?
What is Elphidran based on?
What is Kelpsea based on?
What is Azurobe based on?
What is Cryolinx based on?
What is Blazehowl based on?
What is Relaxaurus based on?
What is Broncherry based on?
What is Petallia based on?
What is Reptyro based on?
What is Kingpaca based on?
What is Mammorest based on?
What is Wumpo based on?
What is Warsect based on?
What is Fenglope based on?
What is Felbat based on?
What is Quivern based on?
What is Blazamut based on?
What is Helzephyr based on?
What is Astegon based on?
What is Menasting based on?
What is Anubis based on?
What is Jormuntide based on?
What is Suzaku based on?
What is Grizzbolt based on?
What is Lyleen based on?
What is Faleris based on?
What is Orzerk based on?
What is Shadowbeak based on?
What is Frostallion based on?
What is Jetragon based on?

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Комментарии : 4,5 тыс.   
@dragonicdoom3772
@dragonicdoom3772 3 месяца назад
At the end of the day, everyone on both sides should agree that nobody deserves death threats, doxxing or any other kind of harassment over this
@stickyfingers1156
@stickyfingers1156 3 месяца назад
based
@stickyfingers1156
@stickyfingers1156 3 месяца назад
also your id is 694206661337
@Meals-sh9fs
@Meals-sh9fs 3 месяца назад
Damm right! "Step 1: Shut up."- Lockstin 2024
@soulcyclone360
@soulcyclone360 3 месяца назад
​@@Meals-sh9fsI'm stealing that quote for personal use
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 месяца назад
@@ZoomerStasithey’re fake fans then because the series they praise go against that behavior
@biobasher
@biobasher 3 месяца назад
"Sheep don't roll" Your sheep are far smarter then the ones in the uk then, the rolling is rarely intentional but they certainly roll.
@Mas-cm6cy
@Mas-cm6cy 3 месяца назад
LMAOOOOO
@fossilmasterleviathan6977
@fossilmasterleviathan6977 3 месяца назад
The sheep over here are dumb too, I was about to say. You put a herd on a hill, and a couple are probably gonna trip lmao
@crazylegs299
@crazylegs299 3 месяца назад
As a brit, I have seen many farmers having to go out and roll some unlucky sheep upright 😂
@Y0G0FU
@Y0G0FU 3 месяца назад
Sheep do indeed roll :P Sometimes even intentional.
@devforfun5618
@devforfun5618 3 месяца назад
also rollout is an old pokemon attack, used by elephants and cows, so basically any round animal that rolls would be a rip off
@Wolvesbane39
@Wolvesbane39 3 месяца назад
Ameterasu from Okami is NOT based on a kitsune! The kitsune does appear in the game, but Ameterasu is the name of the sun goddess and the form she has taken is a wolf, not a fox. Japanese wolves are extinct. Wolves were thought to have mystical powers and some were even worshipped as either deities or messengers of deities. The reason Ammy is fiery is solely because she's supposed to be the sun goddess.
@josephriva-clement2761
@josephriva-clement2761 3 месяца назад
thank you
@aohige
@aohige 3 месяца назад
in fact, quite literaly, ookami means a wolf and kitsune means a fox. Even without any mythical context, and just name of the animals.
@Absbor
@Absbor 3 месяца назад
i was confused about that. thank you
@Dracomata
@Dracomata 3 месяца назад
I thought ius was because of a pun. Okami means wolf but it also means great god so they just mixed the two together
@scp3999
@scp3999 2 месяца назад
is the fur/face paint not the same design element as like the ones on kitsune & other traditional masks/art though? i assumed that's the connection he was making
@MandalorianRaider
@MandalorianRaider 3 месяца назад
"The fluffy cotton candy pal is a dog just like Pokémon" Lockstin, that's a sheep.
@Franklin-vx2tj
@Franklin-vx2tj 3 месяца назад
It’s not. It’s a poodle. I thought the same at first
@MandalorianRaider
@MandalorianRaider 3 месяца назад
@@Franklin-vx2tj It has "wool" in its name and big old ram horns, how is it not a sheep?
@KOkami03
@KOkami03 3 месяца назад
@@MandalorianRaider *Takes a closer look at Woolipop* Oh yeah, you are right! Those are lollipop horns on it's head!
@Planetmango48
@Planetmango48 3 месяца назад
Yeah...
@thegreygoblin5165
@thegreygoblin5165 2 месяца назад
Beep Beep
@siruscatter2001
@siruscatter2001 3 месяца назад
Sheep rolling is based off the fact that sheep get so wooly they will roll down hills. That’s not a Pokémon thing that’s a real life thing
@Zorothegallade-gg7zg
@Zorothegallade-gg7zg 3 месяца назад
And coincidentally sheep who grow a ton of wool on them become round and fluffy in shape. People saying "There are so many ways to draw a cartoon ship and they picked this one" are just ignoring the entire concept of caricature...
@Glaurung-dl2or
@Glaurung-dl2or 3 месяца назад
elden ring sheeps roll too ye
@greedfreed6970
@greedfreed6970 3 месяца назад
yeah I've seen sheep mons that used rolling attacks in multiple RPGs. it's not exclusively pokemon. Heck, some of the are even way before gen 8 even released.
@gfdx3214
@gfdx3214 3 месяца назад
Yeah, when I saw Lamball, I did realise it is sorta similar to Wooloo, but while Wooloo is a great and beloved pokemon, the aspects of "sheep but round and rolling" is not original enough. And apart from this detail, Lamball has pretty much no copied aspects
@RaoaRahaga
@RaoaRahaga 3 месяца назад
ye i've seen other games even on mobile ones that have sheep that roll [literall sheep not sheep like monsters]
@FishFosh
@FishFosh 3 месяца назад
I will go to bat for Floppie; it was shown in a trailer before Tinkaton's design was publicly known or even leaked. It could not possibly have been based on Tinkaton and the fact they look anything alike is simply a huge coincidence. It deserves to move up one tier at least, possibly even two because without the "Tinkaton fusion" elements it's not really that much like Sylveon either.
@dxXZeroXxb
@dxXZeroXxb 3 месяца назад
I don't even think they look particularly alike, except their both pink. Tinkaton looks like a cute goblin, Floppie like a bunny
@bastionsea2829
@bastionsea2829 3 месяца назад
You think tinkaton was only thought of when it was revealed? For all we know it could have been thought of during red/blue era
@LichCrypt
@LichCrypt 3 месяца назад
@@bastionsea2829 and how were the Palworld devs supposed to know about it in order to plagiarize it, then? Garbage tierlist. But then again, it's a Pokemon fanboy channel.
@bastionsea2829
@bastionsea2829 3 месяца назад
@@LichCrypt exactly my point, something could be apparently 'pokemon inspired' while the devs didn't see it, but Twitter will still claim it was copied Also, calling Lockstin a 'pokemon fanboy channel' is being REALLY shortsighted
@pikapika4208
@pikapika4208 3 месяца назад
@@LichCrypt The CEO of Pocketpair used to work for Nintendo.
@horizonbumpy2828
@horizonbumpy2828 3 месяца назад
About Chillet: how would you make a ferret creature? ferrets look a certain way regardless. there's no way around it, it will look like Furret in shape
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 3 месяца назад
Give it horns and claws.
@TopOfAllWorlds
@TopOfAllWorlds 3 месяца назад
Ferrets don't look exactly like furret. Chillet exaggerates the exact same features furret does.
@Shadow-id8sy
@Shadow-id8sy 3 месяца назад
I agree furret is such an unoriginal design of a ferret. all it does is change the fur pattern and flaten the face. At least chillet has a much more dynamic design and combination of creatures with the clear influence from axolotls and with far more exaggerated ears and a far more exaggerated facial structure and more sculpted body with a clearly thinner neck that expands into the body. Chillet is far more creative and original than furret.
@HappyIsaac0420
@HappyIsaac0420 3 месяца назад
​@@TopOfAllWorldsby "the exact same features" do you mean the body? Cause that's really the only similarity between them, is long body, which is just what ferrets are known for. It isn't even the same type
@ytubestolemyhandle
@ytubestolemyhandle 3 месяца назад
don't you know? According to internet people (who are defo real people and not bots farming outrage clicks), Nintendo owns shapes of all anime-fied animals, color schemes and fantasy concepts. No, literally, try drawing anything, and there's some asshat with nothing better to do run it against 1000+ pokemon and xyz million fakemon to prove you stole something because the shape of the curve you used somewhere is similar to how someone else did a curve. At what point do people stop caring about baseless accusations? If everything is plagiarized, nothing is. You have several times bigger chance of winning a lottery than coming up with a completely original thing nobody ever thought of before. There are countless billions of pictures on the internet. And just how ppl stopped caring about being called nazis on the internet by the lefty activists for... literally everything under the sun, most people also stopped caring if something looks vaguely similar to something else. Except for ppl whose lives are so empty they have nothing better to do. And if it's parody, it's even more clear cut. It's just internet slobs have no sense of humor, only an incessant need for internet upvotes (or downvotes, clicks are clicks)
@hamstersandwich9917
@hamstersandwich9917 3 месяца назад
While opinions differ on the tier list, I think we can agree that the closing discussion couldnt have been said better
@19spacecats
@19spacecats 3 месяца назад
Same. It would be great if the online discussion over Palworld design was more like correcting a rough draft of a good paper. It’s a paper that would get a C or B as is, but with some polish it could be thesis material.
@donaldmclelland1238
@donaldmclelland1238 3 месяца назад
I want to point out that flopie was in one of the first trailers that released before scarlet and violet were and before we knew what tinkaton looked like.
@blackfang0815
@blackfang0815 3 месяца назад
This kind of stuff just makes me wonder if it's less Palworld stealing from Pokemon, and more just Pokemon having a ton of super generic designs and over a thousand Pokemon (and especially counting megas, g-max, and Hisuan/Alolan versions) so you could have someone who has never heard of Pokemon or seen one in their life draw an anime creature with some sort of elemental gimmick and it would look just as much like a Pokemon.
@GameGod77
@GameGod77 3 месяца назад
@@blackfang0815 The fact over 1000 of them exist makes it easy to claim any "catchable monster" looks like a pokemon. Game Freak will eventually do gen 10 and even more designs will come along which fanboys will claim can't be stolen/copied/derived from.
@megamasher3
@megamasher3 3 месяца назад
The real crime here is that “Penking” is not called “Kinguin.”
@TheMiningMeteor
@TheMiningMeteor 3 месяца назад
Nah, I’m fine with penking. However they DEFINITELY should have renamed Digtoise to either Rotortoise or Rotatoise. I mean it’s a tortoise that rotates really fast!
@IzzieNickole
@IzzieNickole 3 месяца назад
Agreed 100%, huge missed opportunity lol
@Zorothegallade-gg7zg
@Zorothegallade-gg7zg 3 месяца назад
I guess they didn't want to be associated with a key reseller site
@heyfell4301
@heyfell4301 3 месяца назад
There's already a brand named Kinguin
@Luigicat11
@Luigicat11 3 месяца назад
@@heyfell4301 Ah, that explains it. So they couldn't use that name because it's already trademarked.
@TheFrantic5
@TheFrantic5 3 месяца назад
I completely lost it when I saw you pick up the firefox and use it as a flamethrower. It's a perfect combination of cartoon antics and that machinegun cat meme, and I have no idea why I have never seen this concept executed with Pokemon.
@CAiNiAC
@CAiNiAC 3 месяца назад
People always comparing Grizzbolt to Electabuzz give themselevs away as having never seen a Zangoose.
@Belzabond
@Belzabond 3 месяца назад
THANK YOU!!! I was looking for this comment
@CAiNiAC
@CAiNiAC 3 месяца назад
@@Belzabond Haha, it's WILD how many of these vids all say it or have the thumbnail 😂
@Centinym
@Centinym 3 месяца назад
Drives me nuts - at least get your accusations correct, right?
@makenshi6921
@makenshi6921 3 месяца назад
Damn i didn't even think of that, i keep forgetting that zangoose exist unfortunately, you are quite right.
@wastelandlegocheem
@wastelandlegocheem 3 месяца назад
I love zangoose so much.
@potatoqueen5248
@potatoqueen5248 3 месяца назад
"There is no such thing as bad publicity If you want something to fail follow these steps simply; Number one shut up." Is maybe the most iconic thing Lockstin has ever said.
@Yamartim
@Yamartim 3 месяца назад
BARS
@kayehldedeles4665
@kayehldedeles4665 3 месяца назад
I just hope people don't start parroting this without context just so they can rebutt on an argument online regardless if it's applicable or not. It's still okay to call out immoral acts as long as we're doing so with honesty (his words as well). It'd be harmful if people just stopped speaking up in moments where it's much needed. Lots of people go into online debates only to one-up the other guy, so they would use every quote and post they've seen as ammunition rather than having an honest discussion, much like how both sides of the palworld v pokemon debate goes, and much like the potential misuse of this particular quote from Lockstin as well.
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 3 месяца назад
There is bad publicity. A studio can totally ruin their reputation.
@gargoyle002
@gargoyle002 3 месяца назад
​@@spacejunk2186 yess, and it's called infamy. Unfortunately, people don't necessarily support/withdraw support for something because it's moral or not, and so most of the time infamy only really separate those who don't care from those who do, and not push away a whole fanbase entirely.
@the_godbodor7026
@the_godbodor7026 3 месяца назад
In defense of Chillet, both it and Furret are basically just big ferrets so I wouldn't say that Chillet is just a pokemon when the pokemon is just an animal.
@eldenvedetta635
@eldenvedetta635 3 месяца назад
On Google Images, look up Pokemon Dragonquest Copy, one of the first few pictures shows DIRECT copies of Dragonquest creatures that Pokemon were. Koffing, Ghastly, Dragonite, etc were ALREADY copies themselves.
@jorgemtzb9359
@jorgemtzb9359 3 месяца назад
Yeah that's the one I DISAGRRE WITH STRONGLY. So many pal that look identical to pokémon but that one's a ferret come on it's not literally furret it's fairly original
@crushfun9623
@crushfun9623 3 месяца назад
prob is that it hve almsot the same standing position something real ferrets dont really do like that
@jasomon2115
@jasomon2115 3 месяца назад
I'm bothered by his opinion of that white electric porcupine being F tier. Yes, it may share some similarities, but in no way is it a ripoff, because, palworld.
@Corundrom
@Corundrom 3 месяца назад
​@crushfun9623 as someone who has seen plenty of ferret, they do indeed stand like that sometimes
@icefox94
@icefox94 3 месяца назад
i would make an argument for some of these just being irl animals and neither design being all that original. chillet is just a ferret, jolthog is just a hedgehog, direhowl is just a wolf. those pals looking like furret, shaymin, and lycanroc are just because they are also just a ferret, hedgehog, and wolf.
@mars.theraccoon
@mars.theraccoon 3 месяца назад
27:28 When I was in Iceland we went on a tour and they talked about how sheep get down hills. Apparently a lot of sheep can’t climb downwards well so they tumble and roll. Does it mean Palworld was basing it off of this real world thing? No, but it’s just a thing I figured id point out
@theminiyosshi2901
@theminiyosshi2901 3 месяца назад
“Is it Tuesday? I don’t want to get emotional involved in that mess” I felt that
@MrMistyEyes
@MrMistyEyes 3 месяца назад
For those who don't know. Sheep as well known to roll on Thier backs. When the wool gets too dense it can cause Thier balance to be thrown off and they will fall down and roll on their backs making it difficult to get back up. It is very dangerous for them to be near hills and cliffs because they can end up rolling down them. The idea of a sheep ball that rolls around comes from the cartoonist interpretation of this.
@beckhampang191
@beckhampang191 3 месяца назад
So there should have plenty of sheep creatures that roll around in other media right? Rolling on purpose?
@fredranzalot4849
@fredranzalot4849 3 месяца назад
On wixen, you know vixen is a word for a female fox right? It's not a play on braixen, it's a combo of vixen and wiccan.
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 3 месяца назад
Yeah, I think the the similar naming is more on the heads of whoever translated the names. Don't know the Japanese names though.
@mahoganydoughnut6082
@mahoganydoughnut6082 3 месяца назад
Kinda like how simba and kimba are both based on the word lion.
@Sovann_the_Mighty
@Sovann_the_Mighty 3 месяца назад
I thought it was wixen, wick and wizard xD
@aohige
@aohige 3 месяца назад
He gets SO MANY facts wrong in this video it's insane. Like, his accuracy is below 70%
@froo5667
@froo5667 3 месяца назад
​@@aohige first thing that stood out to me is that the Egyptians didn't invent boxing. Like, easy mistake right? But do your research man.
@KingNidoYT
@KingNidoYT 3 месяца назад
"The best thing to do to your comment section, is to piss off both sides." I could not contain my laughter.
@snailymitch
@snailymitch 3 месяца назад
Admittedly I'm extremely confused by your thought process behind most of these picks, with Eikthyrdeer it's "this is S tier because it's just a cartoon animal pokemon already did and they dont own said animal" but then with Jolthog/Chillet it's "this is F tier cuz it's just a cartoon animal pokemon already did and knowing the devs they were just ripping it off". Same with a bunch of other designs where it's "pokemon doesn't own fire horses" and "this is an ice moth so it's frosmoth" like come on lol.
@snailymitch
@snailymitch 3 месяца назад
I feel the whole "considering the game we're talking about" point really starts falling flat when nearly 90% of the D&F tiers use that justification for being "ripoffs" despite them being fairly generic furry/cartoon animal designs you'd see anywhere else
@buffbarney2648
@buffbarney2648 3 месяца назад
Especially with jolthog it a largely different concept on the same animal chillet has a better argument of it being a rip off in my opinion but not by much
@Chrisezo
@Chrisezo 3 месяца назад
@@snailymitch Well he is a youtuber and he needs something to work with which is why he had to do something like that, but from the way he was talking he did seem to be reluctant to bash on some of the designs, since the guy is really passionate about monster collecting games.
@Chrisezo
@Chrisezo 3 месяца назад
@@asimhussain8716 Yeah, I can agree to that, but at least Lockstin actually made some effort for his video, unlike most of what's currently out there for Pal World, where everyone just jumped on the hype train to make a quick buck, and there's ton of videos that are not even worth watching, such as the ones that are just cheap reaction videos.
@bernhardreiter3406
@bernhardreiter3406 3 месяца назад
The Bushi one was really stupid. I mean yes, a samurai isn`t overly creative, but how the hell is Bushi in any way like Mawile? They both have wide leg pants? Because that`s the only similarity i can see. High B or low A.
@Vaillle
@Vaillle 3 месяца назад
Lamball doesn’t roll because woolo rolls, woolo rolls because sheep roll. They both roll because sheep are literally known for rolling onto their backs and getting stuck.
@thescarletbaroness
@thescarletbaroness 3 месяца назад
Oh they roll, they all roll down here.
@TheKJFI
@TheKJFI 3 месяца назад
Yeah but both of them doing it on purpose is kind of sus
@soulcyclone360
@soulcyclone360 3 месяца назад
​@@TheKJFIhow do you think the sheep roll? They do it on their own and very much on purpose.
@beckhampang191
@beckhampang191 3 месяца назад
@@freddycashbear2164 because the real animal accidentally does that. Not on purpose.
@SecretSquaff
@SecretSquaff 3 месяца назад
He might have tried to be fair, but this guy is still Poke'brain at the end of the day. it's 90% of his content.
@garrettlich7140
@garrettlich7140 3 месяца назад
Is nobody gonna tell him that the content candy pal is a sheep not dog? Edit, oi what’s yall favorite pal? Mines dinasome (spelled wrong my b)
@rugbug531
@rugbug531 3 месяца назад
I don’t think it’s my favorite but I think the mini gmax Eevee is super cute and I want one
@garrettlich7140
@garrettlich7140 3 месяца назад
@@rugbug531 o I love that one two
@joeykester2061
@joeykester2061 3 месяца назад
My favorite thing about Anubis is trying to point out something actually matches Lucario aside from the silhouette The legs have a different number of joints and different pants. its hand have human fingers and arm guards. Its chest has that clothing piece. the face patter is fairly different. The tail is different. And the color scheme is different. Look at all the check features Lucario has that it doesn't. No shoulder wheels, extra spikes, fluffy shorts?, and no dread things. Rayhound is far worse imo and never gets talked about. People just hate Anubis because its on the cover and everyone really likes Lucario.
@aohige
@aohige 3 месяца назад
Or, you know Bothering to literally take 10 seconds googling to see what Anubis is. Dude doesn't seem to realize the Pal Anubis is just cutified Anubis, the Egyptian God. So is Lucario but Anubis is more... literally just Anubis.
@kracker17
@kracker17 3 месяца назад
@@aohige Exactly that.
@SirScrewloose
@SirScrewloose 3 месяца назад
To be honest, I think Anubis is a better design than Lucario. For one thing, its mouth is actually ON its snout instead of BELOW it.
@Gloomdrake
@Gloomdrake 3 месяца назад
Why were FPS games able to escape the “DOOM clone” stigma, but creature collectors haven’t been able to escape the “Pokémon clone” stigma? Most of them have nothing else in common with Pokémon
@FTChomp9980
@FTChomp9980 3 месяца назад
Your not the only one who hates this the genre should be called 4 what it is.🙄 I'm tired of people calling it Ripoff or Clones.
@Shyguy5104
@Shyguy5104 3 месяца назад
It's because nothing except for palworld has equalled pokemon in popularity and the type of game is few and far between
@Gloomdrake
@Gloomdrake 3 месяца назад
@@Shyguy5104 RU-vid lag has been really bad lately, yeah?
@Shyguy5104
@Shyguy5104 3 месяца назад
Sorry about that my phone lagged and i spamed the post button in frustration
@Realperson16
@Realperson16 3 месяца назад
​@FTChomp9980 agreed, alot of monster taming games from what i have seen and experienced play nothing like pokemon at all
@2vectors708
@2vectors708 3 месяца назад
Woolipop is a sheep, not a dog, it has horns on the head, that's why they have a completely different texture from the rest of the hair
@sncruea
@sncruea 3 месяца назад
I mean I called it a candy mareep but it's still adorable even if it's looks like type swapped mareep.
@valteine
@valteine 3 месяца назад
Exactly. Blazehowl is also not a dog.
@jakkaljakobie8774
@jakkaljakobie8774 3 месяца назад
I fully thought that woolipop was just a candy poodle.
@thescarletbaroness
@thescarletbaroness 3 месяца назад
It's living cotton candy, no one tell Willy Wonka.
@piercingheaven5038
@piercingheaven5038 3 месяца назад
The idea that Woolipop is “literally Alcremie” is so stupid.
@megamask3158
@megamask3158 3 месяца назад
Maybe it’s just me but going “If this was in any other game it’d be original but because this is Palworld it’s a rip off.” Like damn, so many got done dirty by that stipulation
@fistbowl1848
@fistbowl1848 3 месяца назад
thats what happens when your devs openly post about how much they like ai generated pokemon on their public twitters
@megamask3158
@megamask3158 3 месяца назад
@@fistbowl1848 “They said they like ai, that must mean their games are ai!” Top tier logic, no flaws whatsoever
@fistbowl1848
@fistbowl1848 3 месяца назад
@@megamask3158 whether they use it or not, promoting it is a disservice to the artists whose work it uses without their consent! since you understand using it is bad, i’m sure you can comprehend how praising its quality to your fanbase is also bad
@megamask3158
@megamask3158 3 месяца назад
@@fistbowl1848 they didn’t promote anything, the dev just thinks ai is neat and that’s the extent of it. AI quality has done nothing but increase in the past years, this is an objective truth wether you like it or not
@JDReC100
@JDReC100 3 месяца назад
​@@fistbowl1848brother got a point. Shaming people and studios for not talking bad about the tech isnt going to stop the tech being used. There is no stopping its advancement. What you should be doing and promoting instead is getting AI regulations passed into law.
@chaosXP3RT
@chaosXP3RT 3 месяца назад
Good luck to anyone in the future who's trying to make not just original fictional creatures, but good creature designs, without ripping off Pokemon, Digimon, or furries.
@mahoganydoughnut6082
@mahoganydoughnut6082 3 месяца назад
And based off of some comments, studio ghibli, YU-GI-OH, monster hunter, every fakemon ever created, final fantasy, classic American literature, every fantasy game ever created and every animal ever drawn in a certain artstyle.
@BastrdGod
@BastrdGod 3 месяца назад
Only question I got is, how many ways can you really draw a cartoonish ferret? Like, yeah, they are similar, because they're ferrets...
@1faithchick7
@1faithchick7 3 месяца назад
Right? The only similarity is that they are both long. Which is the defining thing about ferrets that tells you it is a ferret. There is no way to make a ferret monster short. It wouldn't be a ferret anymore.
@sinnohperson8813
@sinnohperson8813 3 месяца назад
There are many , it's considered a copy when a lot . I mean a lot of design elements match up Like the espurr eyes thing, that's dumb . But ferret , yeah that's copy
@lawless7512
@lawless7512 3 месяца назад
​@@sinnohperson8813but why? He didn't point out any similarities besides the arms which don't look or act the same.
@-fsa-3615
@-fsa-3615 3 месяца назад
@@sinnohperson8813 "design elements match up??" Jesus guys yall have to be blind to not see the different between a brown furret and a blue dragon chillet holy crap, even he compares that electric hedgehog and it still gets a higher rank than chillet
@habibulalamasif9137
@habibulalamasif9137 3 месяца назад
​@@lawless7512comparing furret to other cartoon ferrets, the hands, legs ( generally ferret designs have bigger legs), standing pose and especially the big tail is quite unique to furret. I think chillet looks like an edited furret 3d model with different head design. They have the same iconic furret walking animation.
@Exeggutorking
@Exeggutorking 3 месяца назад
Tombat: someone’s sonic OC that they tried to turn into a Kirby boss -lockstin
@nomorechances
@nomorechances 3 месяца назад
Tombat is Tom from Tom and Jerry turned into a bat. The floating sushi looks like the ones from PacMan. Surprised he didn't point those out and even gave Tombat S tier.
@sez7612
@sez7612 3 месяца назад
There are definitely some similarities that you can rule it was “inspired” by Pokémon but I feel like some of them are just concepts or creatures from myth that Pokémon obviously took from somewhere else too like people say lucario and Anubis. Bro it’s literally taken from Egypt mythology Anubis it isn’t just a Pokémon thing also chillet is a ice dragon ferret they look similar because it is based on the same thing Pokémon doesn’t have claim over all ferret lookalike creatures
@koopagrandfleet
@koopagrandfleet 3 месяца назад
Ranking the pals on originality while pulling from so many different media is kind of an unfair move since barely anything will apear original with that many designs to compare to.
@claine89
@claine89 3 месяца назад
That was his point... 🙄🙄🤣
@neovoid5008
@neovoid5008 3 месяца назад
@ 12:24 he compares a design that literally doesn't exist in pokemon saying "If mawhile was a samurai". Like they literally look nothing alike other than some collor scheme slightly. I don't know pokemon vary well but I see it as it is. Nothing is similar.
@soragami6247
@soragami6247 3 месяца назад
I gonna bat for Jolthog here. Its not that its just copying Shaymin, its that they are both uninspired designs. They are both just an actual hedgehog, but the spikes are an element. Heck, pokemon made a better hedgehog inspired pokemon with Togademaru, the hedgehog is clear, but different enough. Shaymin is lazy in that its just hedgehog but literally hedge, the hedgehog shape doesn't even change, its head, its back, its legs, its all just real life hedgehog. If Jolthog had a another Pal thats supposed to be its counterpart, and that counterpart looks more like a deer, like how Shaymin sky form is, then fine I will accept thats its a copy. But it doesn't, its just an electric hedgehog. So in my opinion, its shouldn't be F tier. I do think that "Since its palworld" criticism is coming a bit too much in some of these.
@KipNinjogu
@KipNinjogu 3 месяца назад
Yeah maybe a bit to far but it should probably still be kept in concentration
@Trashman_Len
@Trashman_Len 3 месяца назад
Jolthog is amazing. Just because Shaymin is a hedgehog does not mean no other monster collector game can use hedgehogs.
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 3 месяца назад
I love the distinction that they're both unoriginal. Call it what it is. PalWorld is just Pokemon with guns. Down to the philosophy of stealing ideas. Pot taking notes from Kettle. That's what this is, and people need to stop pretending Pokemon is this innocent IP that hasn't done the exact same thing for a long time. You can love the games and series, and find originality in both, but there are clearly a lot of uninspired ideas here and there. If we don't have the courage to call them out, can we really take ourselves seriously as gamers? 6:59 Never forget this. Also, I love the design of Jolthog, and it may have one of my favorite abilities. I can forgive it's lack of originality for the ability to throw an exploding hedgehog at dudes.
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 3 месяца назад
Electric Hedgehog --Pokemon-- Pal, you say? ZAP TO THE EXTREME!
@joshbudziak2701
@joshbudziak2701 3 месяца назад
@@Aflay1 This is unrelated to the bulk of your comment but I want to say, I really liked "Pot taking notes from the kettle" i'm absolutely using that phrase going forward
@BlackTempleGaurdian
@BlackTempleGaurdian 3 месяца назад
I don't think it's fair to put Chillet in F tier because of the similarities to Furret, given Furret is also literally just a ferret.
@rikacreature
@rikacreature 3 месяца назад
there are tons of ways to stylize a ferret, there are tons of ways palworld could have stylized chillet to make it not look like furret, but they didnt. they could have changed the shape of the front paws, gave it actual limbs, made a more clear distinction between the tail and the body, changed the shape of the feet, added claws, made the body thinner, changed the position of the front paws, literally ANY of these, but nope, they stylized it the exact same way pokemon did. heck, *i've* designed ferret creatures before, and even with my pokemon-esque art style they still turned out completely different looking than furret
@BlackTempleGaurdian
@BlackTempleGaurdian 3 месяца назад
@@rikacreature You are entitled to your opinion.
@soulcyclone360
@soulcyclone360 3 месяца назад
​@@rikacreatureso because pokemon made a certain design choice no one else can do it?
@rikacreature
@rikacreature 3 месяца назад
@@soulcyclone360 it wasn't just one design choice, a character design is comprised of a number of components. Copying just one or two is totally fine, but when you copy nearly all of them, then it's a problem.
@rikacreature
@rikacreature 3 месяца назад
@@BlackTempleGaurdian hah thanks, sorry for dumping a wall of text on you, I'm a 3d modeler and character designer so this is something I'm passionate about, but I definitely realize a lot of people do not care lol
@tangrunhua
@tangrunhua 3 месяца назад
I definitely think Chillet is one of the more original ones. It's based on ferrets, of course, but it has completely different design and animation than furret. There vibes are also very distinctive, making them cute in different ways.
@Masterge77
@Masterge77 3 месяца назад
When Palworld first came out, I was one of THOSE Pokemon fans, who saw the game as nothing more than a game that was likely made from spite towards the current Pokemon product, with the guns and slave labor basically being the developers saying "Look at what WE can do that you're NOT doing!" But after watching this video, especially the second half, I feel my opinion on Palworld has changed quite a lot. I've been a fan of Pokemon since Gen 2, but ever since Gen 6 or so, I've grown increasingly frustrated with the franchise for a multitude of factors. Asides from rushing each game, the franchise honestly feels stagnant, like it's permanently stuck in 1999, and still runs itself like a franchise from the 90's, with an apparent prioritization of selling merchandise over actually making quality products. It honestly feels like they are afraid to innovate, afraid to leave their comfort zone, like they're still worried about the early controversies like Jynx, Porygon and the Christian moms who thought the franchise was "Satanic", and decide to play things SUPER safe to avoid any potential controversy or lawsuits. If anything, that's why I think Palworld is so successful, partly because of the whole "Pokemon with Guns" novelty and meme, but also because it's doing things that Pokemon should have done a long time ago. Think about it, Gen 6 came out in 2013 and was the first all-3D (main series) Pokemon title, when it's contemporaries like Mario, Zelda and Sonic made the jump to 3D over 15 years earlier, back when _Gen 1_ was the current generation, when the franchise was in it's infancy. And that's just barely scraping the iceberg! We're currently in the 9th generation of Pokemon, and the 3D graphics look like they're from the Wii era. Pokemon Colosseum was released 20 years ago and it somehow looks better than Scarlet and Violet do... and that game wasn't even made by Game Freak! This is one of, if not THE biggest multi-media franchise in the world right now, it should be a leader and an innovator with that status, and yet the franchise still functions like it's an 80's toy-driven franchise from Hasbro, when even franchises from that decade like Transformers and TMNT have gotten with the times. Face it, Pokemon NEEDS to improve, and yet for some reason, it's not, and at the rate things are going, I don't think it ever will...
@WillytheBasilisk
@WillytheBasilisk 3 месяца назад
If you don't mind me asking, what changes would that be?
@alaricpaley6865
@alaricpaley6865 3 месяца назад
So far the only ones I hard disagree with are Chillet (It's an ice ferret Dragon. Pokemon don't own ferrets. by your other metrics, this one is being done injustice.) And Flopie For literally being revealed before Tinkaton. Also, Loupmoon has Absols face. Orzerk has Garchomps head, bodyshape and stance - It's an Electric Orca Dragon instead of a Ground Shark Dragon, so it's literally the inverse, which is neat honestly. Some of these thou, they're clearly getting ranked higher or lower then they should b/c of your personal opinion, which is fine honestly.
@HappyIsaac0420
@HappyIsaac0420 3 месяца назад
Yeah, him going "Arsox is pretty unique, but this one random ass fangame did something similar, so it's a blatant copy." Like huh?! I wanted to stop watching right then and there, but I had to finish it. Then Chillet, my precious little boi. I don't even want to talk about Chillet.
@grandlancer
@grandlancer 3 месяца назад
My biggest takeaway from this is: Man, at 30 hours in there are still a ton of pals I haven't seen.
@heyfell4301
@heyfell4301 3 месяца назад
That's honestly the only good takeaway from this mess of a video
@DeepFriedOreoOffline
@DeepFriedOreoOffline 3 месяца назад
"... and what do you make your cotton candy sweet monster? A fluffly dog? Just like Pokemon did?" A fluffly d- a dog? If anyone thinks that's a dog, no one can help you, lol. Though now that you mention it, I was starting to wonder what it was that makes dogs so different than cats, and it must be those big ram horns they all have. I mean dog horns. I've never really noticed it before now. And that fluffy wool, just like dogs too. You know, Mr. Burns from the Simpsons might have been on to something wanting to make that dog wool tux.
@Centinym
@Centinym 3 месяца назад
Exactly, that is a sheep through and through.
@Nojustnomf
@Nojustnomf 3 месяца назад
Let's not look at one part of the design (proceeds to look at one part of the design specifically the talons)
@cormacbyrne2210
@cormacbyrne2210 3 месяца назад
Hold on! Ōkami's Amaterasu is NOT a kitsune! She's closer to the Ōkuchi-no-Makami, the deified Japanese wolf. The kitsune of that game, the creatively-named Nine-Tails, is an entirely different character. Edit: Just want to say I DO enjoy this vid. I just wanted to point out that one little discrepancy. Overall, good work!
@pemanilnoob587
@pemanilnoob587 3 месяца назад
Isn’t a kitsune a fox?? Ameterasu is very obviously not a fox
@Thesmus
@Thesmus 3 месяца назад
@@pemanilnoob587 i have not played the game but ametarasu looks more like a wolf to me. when i see her in art, i think of dog and princess mononoke wolf
@giratina6665
@giratina6665 3 месяца назад
​@@Thesmusshe literally just is. She even howls and emotes like one (/a dog)
@ghostlyhousehorrors
@ghostlyhousehorrors 3 месяца назад
​@@Thesmusthe word Okami literally means wolf in japanese
@wakizaki7463
@wakizaki7463 3 месяца назад
They should have made Wixen a dog pyromancer so the Wixen and Katress rivalry made sense and so it wouldn't be so close to looking like the Delphox line.
@Hide_Me
@Hide_Me 3 месяца назад
Foxes are dogs
@flyinggothicsheer1346
@flyinggothicsheer1346 3 месяца назад
Katress looks more like a Rabbit wearing a Catskin robe to me tbh.
@zuziiice8907
@zuziiice8907 3 месяца назад
Issue with that.. vixen is last half of the name. If you gotta change the species then gotta change the name too.. Wog?.. dizard?.. dozard?.. I dk what name would work in that.
@Hide_Me
@Hide_Me 3 месяца назад
@@zuziiice8907 maybe something like... arcanine 😏
@zuziiice8907
@zuziiice8907 3 месяца назад
@@Hide_Me that wouldn't work cuz pokemon already got that. Nice joke though ngl.
@atlus6772
@atlus6772 3 месяца назад
So, what I'm getting from all this is: Nostalgia is a cancer.
@ralcogaming7674
@ralcogaming7674 3 месяца назад
It's not necessarily nostalgia. What we're seeing is people defending a brand because if nostalgia without realizing this isn't hurting their memories. Game freak is. Pokemon hasn't evolved ever. They refuse to because of this weird brand loyalty people have. If it was any other product people would have dropped it decades ago. We grew up pokemon didn't. Even the pokemon legends formula seems to be dead in the water despite johto being the perfect place to take it next.
@atlus6772
@atlus6772 3 месяца назад
@ralcogaming7674 yea, they've never really cared to shake things up for the games. I don't know if this makes sense, but it kinda feels to me as if Gamefreak is trying to give a "move with us or we move through you" attitude to its audience without realizing that it goes both ways. I might have no desire to play Palworld, but it has nothing to do with brand loyalty.
@carrotswordgaming3483
@carrotswordgaming3483 3 месяца назад
"But will this finally Pokémon to do something different? Only time will tell..." That hits different...
@vgmaster02
@vgmaster02 3 месяца назад
Love how everyone ONCE AGAIN are pinning the blame SOLELY on Game Freak, when I'm pretty sure it's THE POKEMON COMPANY who is FORCING them to pump these games out EVERY SINGLE YEAR, from a team they REFUSE to give MORE WORKERS for, and people think that massive time crunch is gonna magically make Pokemon games good? The problem is Game Freak CAN'T make Pokemon good because they DON'T HAVE THE TIME to do so. TPC needs to stop constantly expecting the games to be a yearly release so that GF can actually have TIME to work on them. Either that, or they need to bring in ANOTHER STUDIO to aid them (like, say, MONOLITH SOFT??? The arguable KING when it comes to open-world exploration games (Xenoblade, anyone?)). Do I want Pokemon to be good? Yes. See Legends Arceus. While rough around the edges, I still had SOOO much fun with that game and I WANT them to make more Legends games and IMPROVE upon each one. But will TPC loosen their grip around GF's proverbial waist to allow them the time to make said improvements? NO. Cause all they care about is money. (and I presume they have to hold the 34+% percent to be the final say in every decision despite being a partial owner of Pokemon with Nintendo and GF, because if GF was truly the biggest shareowner, would they not have said "We are releasing Pokemon when we want to release it"? (especially given their other game they are STILL working on, btw) Or Nintendo? (Since Nintendo allows all their other IPs to be worked on and released WHEN THEY'RE READY to release)) I WANT GF to make Pokemon better and better. But until TPC lets go of their "We MUST release games annually because they HAVE to be connected to the merch/card game/anime/etc" mentality, then I don't know what GF can do outside of asking for more workers, more studios to help, or putting their foot down and demanding more time.
@kidincredgamez5819
@kidincredgamez5819 3 месяца назад
"A fluffy dog" >Clearly a ram
@WillytheBasilisk
@WillytheBasilisk 3 месяца назад
I will be honest, I saw a poodle. I thought the horns were hair pins or something.
@Corundrom
@Corundrom 3 месяца назад
Did my boy Chillet dirty, calling it just a furret they made ice/dragon is disingenuous since furret is *LITERALLY JUST A CARTOON FERRET*
@ghastlyanarchy1720
@ghastlyanarchy1720 3 месяца назад
They can walk too
@koruyamashimada9094
@koruyamashimada9094 3 месяца назад
It has the exact same idle and walking animations though
@ghastlyanarchy1720
@ghastlyanarchy1720 3 месяца назад
@@koruyamashimada9094 how different can it really be given its design?
@randomcanadian6298
@randomcanadian6298 3 месяца назад
@@koruyamashimada9094 Do you want a ferret to slither or something?
@mattvoelker241
@mattvoelker241 3 месяца назад
@@koruyamashimada9094 Have you never seen a ferret run or stand on its hind legs? I think they're cute and Pirate Software has like, 6 ferrets he shows on streams sometimes.
@SuperMagicUnderwear
@SuperMagicUnderwear 3 месяца назад
I think Killamari might be based on 2 things: 1: Cute mascot hats. The long tendrils and the droopy ear-like things and big eyes really make me think it wants to be worn. 2: Mindflayers: Mindflayers are squid-like brain eaters, and its Pal entry seems to suggest it does this very thing. The hat-like appearance might lure in unsuspecting victims into putting it on where its razor-blade teeth take care of the rest. It could also take ideas from Metroids which are also tentacled beings that eat brains, but the first two ideas presented are definitely more direct.
@froo5667
@froo5667 3 месяца назад
Yeah mindflayers are the first thing I thought of when I saw the lamprey mouth, it's not far off when you consider they're both squids and that d&d is one of the most popular games of all time (alongside Pokemon)
@ilikepieandgames
@ilikepieandgames 3 месяца назад
"Take a step back and be realistic" is probably the best takeaway from this video
@doge7877
@doge7877 3 месяца назад
The hedgehog one is literally just a cartoon hedgehog though. Hell i have one right next to me that looks exactly the same and its from a grow your own crystal hedgehog kit.
@dl2839
@dl2839 3 месяца назад
Exactly, the pal looks like a hedgehog. It's not a "blatant rip-off" of the Pokémon just because that's based on a hedgehog, too.
@chaosXP3RT
@chaosXP3RT 3 месяца назад
Sounds like your kit ripped off Pokemon
@kellevichy
@kellevichy 3 месяца назад
Do I have to bring up Seel the pokemon is LITERALLY a seal? Or Ratatta and Raticate are literally just rats? Butterfree is just a butterfly? Krabby is just an uninspired crab along with Kinglar? Horsea being a literal seahorse? Pokemon is littered with 'cartoon animal designs with 0 alteration' and that was me only using Gen 1 and not even the full 150.
@ralcogaming7674
@ralcogaming7674 3 месяца назад
I work at a pet store we sell a particular brand of toy called "fluff and tuff" they have a hedgehog toy that is a great example of how basic hedgehogs look. They toy lacks legs and you could slap a bush on it and sell it as shaymin.
@danielrivera6899
@danielrivera6899 3 месяца назад
As a die hard pokemon fan that also understands GF needs to improve in their ways, thank you for making this video. You have eloquently put into video form all the arguments as to why i love palworld AND pokemon and why whatever happens in the end (lawsuit or not) this is for the BETTER of the monster taming community. It is literally a WIN-WIN for everyone. Its ok guys, you are allowed to enjoy both Pokemon and Palworld while also recognizing one needs to put in more effort like they used to in the past, and the other one SEVERELY lacks originality (at best lmao). Thank you so so much for this Lockstin!
@D3adCl0wn
@D3adCl0wn 3 месяца назад
They should actually do more of these 99% copy Pals. The Verdash copy is actually a 10 for me as I prefer Sepak Takraw to Football, so I have this head-canon that he weaves ratan balls for his attacks.
@rayplaysgamesrpg7233
@rayplaysgamesrpg7233 3 месяца назад
This one right here.
@Chrisezo
@Chrisezo 3 месяца назад
At this point the lawsuit and all the legal stuff going in the background are just rumours and threats, I hope that this never reaches a courtroom, because in worst case scenario Gamefreak and Nintendo will win, just because they have more money to toss around, and that will mean that a lot of people will be discouraged to try and oppose them again, which will really stifle the game industry more than what it already is, and in best case scenario Pocketpair wins, and that really inspires a ton of developers and people, to start making games and such that rival Nintendo's ideas and things, and then we get a big boom of games, and possibly Pocketpair continues to develop for Pal World, where since its still in early access the sky is really the limit for its potential. I mainly hope that nothing really happens though, since the current status quo is pretty good, and the negative outcomes are just too bad for them to become a reality.
@aquadarkskull3248
@aquadarkskull3248 3 месяца назад
I tend to sit in the camp of if you make any kind of cartoon / anime fantasy creature, Pokémon has more than likely made it already.
@YoshKnight
@YoshKnight 3 месяца назад
Yo-Kai Watch was released the same year as ORAS and outsold it in both Japan and the US. The very next game that they released was Sun and Moon, a pair of games that drastically changed up the main story beats of prior Pokemon games, introduced much deeper plot lines, regional forms, ultra beasts, z-moves, a very noticeable change to how GF designs new Pokemon for a region, and so much more. USUM is just that but even more. This will definitely light a fire under GF. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.
@bigfootapologetics
@bigfootapologetics 3 месяца назад
Not only that, but the RotomDex had an uncanny resemblance to the talking ghost from Yo-Kai Watch!
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 3 месяца назад
GameFreak undoubtedly started working on the next Gen before Palworld dropped.
@silver_was_found
@silver_was_found Месяц назад
I loved SV but it was hard carried by the plot. Hope ZA doesn't have the same technical problems and isn't just held together by duct tape and the fanbase's love for megas.
@musicsheep9816
@musicsheep9816 3 месяца назад
Actually, Woolliepop isn't a dog. Ive also seen people compare it to Alcreamie because of the sweets in its hair, which is also incorrect. It's a sheep made of cotton candy with peppermint horns.
@musicsheep9816
@musicsheep9816 3 месяца назад
Also, I don't get why people say Jolthog is way too close to Shaymin. Hedgehogs just look like that. I see jolthog and I think more of "Haha sonic the hedgehog real"
@captainawf2341
@captainawf2341 3 месяца назад
​@@musicsheep9816and then it's alternate gorn is blue? Clearly a Sonic rip off!
@draxus884
@draxus884 3 месяца назад
THIS! For the life of me I don't understand why people think something named WOOLipop is a dog, like cmon.
@matthewadams1674
@matthewadams1674 3 месяца назад
These are my thoughts on the ferret dragon. Like, I guess both are big ferrets, but they are so different otherwise.
@marushall263
@marushall263 3 месяца назад
cotton candy is a sweet same with pepermint candies.
@SiliconSlyWolf
@SiliconSlyWolf 3 месяца назад
How does dragon ferret get so low on yours, but the wolf that high? Yeah, the wolf is just any anime wolf, but the dragon ferret is basically just an anime ferret with dragon features. I think of furret seeing it, but I don't actually SEE furret in it between generic anime ferret and dragon features. And there's still plenty of ways to make an anime wolf stand out more, I mean, I absolutely saw theirs and immediately thought "that's lycanroc at home."
@WatsonDynamite
@WatsonDynamite 3 месяца назад
not just that but the electric dog that just has Shiny Lucario's head copypasted is 2 tiers above Chillet
@marlinmurrell620
@marlinmurrell620 3 месяца назад
Eh, when I first saw the wolf pal, I didn't even think about Lycanroc. The first thing that came into mind for me was Wolf Link from Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess.
@Tangarisu
@Tangarisu 3 месяца назад
For Chillet I think its like if Furret and Chien Pao had a baby
@RealLifeIronMan
@RealLifeIronMan 3 месяца назад
Totally agree. The similarity was way over blown by Lockstin
@LinkFreak9999
@LinkFreak9999 3 месяца назад
Wouldn't mind me a lycanroc at home...
@MimirNexus
@MimirNexus 3 месяца назад
Thank you for pointing out that Grimtale is based on the Cheshire Cat. I've seen other videos, like 2 or 3, and they keep saying it's Galarian Meowth. Both Grimtale and the Cheshire Cat are purple cats with yellow eyes and an evil smile. It's the first thing I saw when I seen Grimtale.
@Atou_Mahogany
@Atou_Mahogany 3 месяца назад
Palworld reminds me a lot about my most favorite Shin Megami Tensei series ever, Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha. In there, you the "monster Trainer" are a main fighter who uses a gun (+ swords), you collect a variety of monsters to fight on your behalf in real time action style combat, and every monster has a type/family/category it falls under which allows them to do special actions out in the field. One of the funniest moments I ever had was when I sent out a tentacle monster of the Wind family using the special ability of the Wind family of monsters to Scout an area. During a Scout the Wind monster will fly off and after a few seconds come back to tell you about monsters you may encounter in the area and on occasion give you a random item it picked up, such as a health potion or a gem you can sell for money. Well, this one time, my monster, a demon that was just a floating eyeball with tentacles, came back from a Scout and I got the message "Ichimokuren came back with a pair of used underwear. ... you threw them away." 😆 Like, my dude, I don't want to judge by appearances, but do I even want to know how you got these!? 🤣
@zombei_kid
@zombei_kid 3 месяца назад
Ammy isn't based on a Kitsune. She's an... Okami, a wolf.
@laurencarlson4541
@laurencarlson4541 3 месяца назад
exactly! one of the bosses is a kitsune, but Ammy Herself? nope! She's a very good girl!
@kurolothgarian
@kurolothgarian 3 месяца назад
20:29 Every time I see this cat monster, I think of "My Neighbor Totoro," specifically the Cat bus. That is because the bus' eyes were headlamps, and this monsters eyes perpetually glow.
@Slade951
@Slade951 3 месяца назад
That's the issue with these pokemon fans. All they know is pokemon so everything is invented by pokemon to them. It's like that story of the little brother telling his brother that he knows goku and goku is from fortnight. 🤦
@beckhampang191
@beckhampang191 3 месяца назад
​@@Slade951no one says that... The complaint for it is the CAT FACE. Cheshire cats have TONS of art that don't have same faces. Suddenly 2 chesire cats doing that? That's sus.
@miniblitz3971
@miniblitz3971 3 месяца назад
the colour of the eyes still dont excuse the literal same eyes, let alone rest of the face, as G-Meowth. and like Lockstin said, in a game with 30 other models that are eerily reminiscent of Pokemon, the odds that the face is coincidentally the same as G-Meowth with a completely different origin and basis is highly unlikely.
@ysbrann3059
@ysbrann3059 3 месяца назад
@@beckhampang191 3 cat then if you count the catbus..
@NamiTheNeko
@NamiTheNeko 3 месяца назад
@@Slade951 I'm a Pokemon fan and I saw this same thing, although Delcatty's body a bit. But the face I saw was the Cat Bus.
@RatedMforMeenie
@RatedMforMeenie 3 месяца назад
i would have loved for this video to have more than 12 seconds of research. especially at the meme portion at the end
@WillytheBasilisk
@WillytheBasilisk 3 месяца назад
What do you mean?
@lenarianmelon4634
@lenarianmelon4634 3 месяца назад
This commenter has 0 analysis skills
@Xavior86
@Xavior86 3 месяца назад
You saw a dog with Woolipop? Huh... I saw a sheep. Also the name. Oh well
@daraen673
@daraen673 3 месяца назад
The pal at 18:42, I don't think we can compare pals with 9g pokémon, it depend of when the pal was created before the release of Palworld as we know TInkakon only since november 2022 and Palworld is in developpment since longer
@daraen673
@daraen673 3 месяца назад
Same for the two pals at 30:40, I do think that this is a pure coincidence if they were created before the release of the trailer for Scarlet and Violet who showed Armarouge and Ceruledge. However if these two pals were created like AFTER the release of the Scarlet and Violet games, yes they are copies of Armarouge and Ceruledge but as centaurs.
@Slade951
@Slade951 3 месяца назад
​@@daraen673digimon royal knights? Dukemon and kentaurosmon
@maganhassan2627
@maganhassan2627 3 месяца назад
It depends what resources pocket pair had 🤷‍♂️ if they had connections to pokemon & their assets
@francisco2759
@francisco2759 3 месяца назад
I find it funny that everyone realises that cremis is just a small gmax eevee but I haven't seen anyone saying that it is just a small SHINY gmax eevee
@sifibruh7055
@sifibruh7055 2 месяца назад
Seriously I feel like the eevee clone is the worst offender but is almost never the first example people give towards plagiarism
@Rabbitzan
@Rabbitzan 3 месяца назад
I think it's parodying and I love it, it scratches several itches for me. You know my collectors itch, my survival itch and my exploration itch.. love it!
@krismac7695
@krismac7695 3 месяца назад
Loveander is just if Salazzle was the lusty argonian maid. That cracked me up, what a great reference 😂
@TsukiCondor
@TsukiCondor 3 месяца назад
"Pokemon own the rights to birds" - Lockstin 2024
@Gloomdrake
@Gloomdrake 3 месяца назад
The rabbit hole goes even deeper. If birds are government drones, and the rights to birds are owned by Pokémon, that means that Pokémon is the shadow government
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 месяца назад
No but Pokémon owns their interpretation of those animals And palworld is imitating Pokemon’s interpretation not the animals in general Probably
@FTChomp9980
@FTChomp9980 3 месяца назад
Pokemon doesn't own the rights to any animal but I get he was doing it as a sarcastic joke still funny though.
@eldenvedetta635
@eldenvedetta635 3 месяца назад
@@madnessarcade7447 On Google Images, look up Pokemon Dragonquest Copy, one of the first few pictures shows DIRECT copies of Dragonquest creatures that Pokemon were. Koffing, Ghastly, Dragonite, etc were ALREADY copies themselves. If you're going to call out Palworld, you better call out Pokemon itself too or you're just a hypocrite.
@TFtoonz
@TFtoonz 3 месяца назад
​@madnessarcade7447 unlike anyother interpretations of cartoon animal's Dude, what does that mean?
@Infernalicon
@Infernalicon 3 месяца назад
i love how everyone throws flopie as *its tinkaton+ sylveon, and noone brings to mention that its doing the lake trio pose
@justanothersilentprotagoni9139
@justanothersilentprotagoni9139 3 месяца назад
Well there have been statements that, that design was done before Tinkaton was even revealed
@lightningstrike9876
@lightningstrike9876 3 месяца назад
​@@justanothersilentprotagoni9139 yep. Flopie appeared in the original Palworld reveal trailers, which came out well before Pokemon Scarlett and Violet launched.
@johnedwards4313
@johnedwards4313 3 месяца назад
​@@lightningstrike9876do you got a link to the trailer
@bloodwolfgaming9269
@bloodwolfgaming9269 3 месяца назад
@@johnedwards4313 Just look up Palworld trailer and watch the one that is like 2-3 years old.
@mrminty7604
@mrminty7604 3 месяца назад
@@johnedwards4313look it up, not hard
@jotarandom
@jotarandom 3 месяца назад
I know Anubis and Faleris were planed Pals from the first trailer and in fact Faleris was named Horus just before release, source: the in-game files, discord mod, translator and some way back machine pages
@horizonbumpy2828
@horizonbumpy2828 3 месяца назад
woolipop... a dog? it has WOOL in it's name
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 3 месяца назад
21:15 “something edgy pokemon would never do” Are we talking about the same Pokemon who has many game plots contain different forms of mass genocide
@Hugo-yz1vb
@Hugo-yz1vb 3 месяца назад
​@@ZoomerStasi Giratina IT'S literally JUST The Devil, Lucifer, rebellling aganist it's father and creator, all that crap
@Ryodraco
@Ryodraco 3 месяца назад
All those are a fair bit more vague than a literal noose though is I think his point.
@Ryodraco
@Ryodraco 3 месяца назад
@@Hugo-yz1vb according to the developers Giratina is supposed to represent antimatter. Now of course it can be multiple things, but this still means it's misleading to call it literally the devil. It also didn't rebel against Arceus, it was banished for being too violent (and only after this desired to challenge Arceus for a time).
@Hugo-yz1vb
@Hugo-yz1vb 3 месяца назад
@@ZoomerStasi Nice! Gun Pokémon real confirmed
@Hugo-yz1vb
@Hugo-yz1vb 3 месяца назад
@@Ryodraco Who says that violence wasn't him rebelling aganist Arceus? And yeah, I love the antimatter inspirations and elements as well, but the "being banished to the Shadow Realm because I did and oopsie uh oh stinky" part is too good to not be true
@groupsatu6301
@groupsatu6301 3 месяца назад
18:42 this alwas bugs me because floppy was shown long before scarlet and violet came out
@FishFosh
@FishFosh 3 месяца назад
Yeah I would go so far as to say that claiming any Pal is based on a gen 9 pokemon is always a stretch at best, the Pal designs were likely all finalized well before Scarlet and Violet launched.
@BlackRaveBow
@BlackRaveBow 3 месяца назад
I will say that the Pokémon in SCVT were leaked ahead of release
@Jibboe0214
@Jibboe0214 3 месяца назад
​@@BlackRaveBow By how much? The design in particular was already finalized 2 years ago. Was the dex Really leaked that early? I only started seeing dex leaks a couple months before release.
@BlackRaveBow
@BlackRaveBow 3 месяца назад
@@Jibboe0214 The pal in question wasn't revealed until game release. It wasn't in original trailers so nobody can claim in was finalized back then. There's many questionable pals that were not in original trailer.
@Jibboe0214
@Jibboe0214 3 месяца назад
@@BlackRaveBow are you sure? I could swear it was in the trailer but I might be misremembering
@KisaragiZeet
@KisaragiZeet 3 месяца назад
Sadly, GameFreaks main cashflow isnt from the pokemon games, its from pokemon -merch-. Plusies, cards, toys....they really only keep cranking out more games to make new pokemon to continue their merch sales
@mekrobotic9046
@mekrobotic9046 3 месяца назад
Jormuntide is literally just a basic sea dragon, it’s based off of jormungandr the mythical sea snake that ate the world or something like that (I think it’s from Norse mythology)
@RokuroCarisu
@RokuroCarisu 3 месяца назад
How many sea serpents do you know that have a segmented body, besides Gyarados?
@GameBooAdvancePlus
@GameBooAdvancePlus 3 месяца назад
I love how measured this list is with mythology in consideration and benefit of the doubt applied. And then chillet sits at the bottom as if Gamefreak owns the likeness to an actual, real life ferret.
@addison_v_ertisement1678
@addison_v_ertisement1678 3 месяца назад
This is definitely not giving benefit of the doubt.
@deiiyulol1407
@deiiyulol1407 3 месяца назад
what really sucks about the Evee esque palmons is that, well tf how we gonna make a cute fox dog looking creature cause uhh.. evee is like the most generic cute creature ever
@flameduel
@flameduel 3 месяца назад
THIS! I love eevee a lot, but even I will admit that any small fox creature is GOING to look like eevee, Nox sure, but Cremis is just a cloud fox, if you add any floof to a small fox it'll just look like eevee
@deiiyulol1407
@deiiyulol1407 3 месяца назад
@@flameduel Evee was drawn to be as the cutest creature, its amalgamation of every cute creature
@solanaeevee
@solanaeevee 3 месяца назад
i totally agree. i remember back when gen 5 was coming out, i thought zorua was a rip off of eevee (with flareon's head poof and espeons cheek tufts lol). like there's no avoiding such comparisons when eevee is the most generic cutie ever
@Aldenfenris
@Aldenfenris 3 месяца назад
Yeah, the issue is less "oh look, similar to pokemon" in cases and more "pokemon did over 1k of sometimes very generic designs so it ends up being impossible to not compare newer games with the pokemon designs. I like pokemon but it is true. Pokemon came early and basically almost grabbed every cute design it would, then now when other stuff wants to be similar in style, it ends either pokemon ripoff, or ultra generic things out of fear of pokemon fans complaining (or Nintendo/game freak). Of course a fluffy fox might look like an Eevee, it is such a generic design, adorable, and well done but super generic. Or people complaining "chillet is a Furret" no, it is just a ferret, or a mix of ferret with dragon.
@thexp905
@thexp905 3 месяца назад
I mean Eevee is a fox/dog/cat/rabbit fusion thing. It's basically the definition of generic, because it pulls from so many cute animals.
@emeraldqueen1994
@emeraldqueen1994 3 месяца назад
I thought it was Cinder - Ace because it’s the Ace on the soccer team….. not race because they’re fast
@grapesoda7075
@grapesoda7075 3 месяца назад
You know there can be more than 2 words in a pun right? Cinder, ace, and race. They’re all inspiration for the name(pokemon does this ALOT, lockstins other video point out some pokemon with upwards of 5 words inspiring a name.)
@Lukaz2009
@Lukaz2009 3 месяца назад
This comment is a response to your closing statement: I feel like the sentiment "Palworld is what Pokémon should be" isn't the most accurate of ideas. What that sounds like to me is people wanting more out of the Monster Tamer/Creature Collector genre that isn't just more turn-based RPGs. Monster Taming/Creature Collecting has been stuck in this rut because the very roots of the genre, Megami Tensei, was itself a turn-based RPG. And no one has really deviated from those roots as hard as Palworld. Monster Rancher tried being different by being more of a simulation game. Didn't really stick around, though. (I think its still kind of relevant in Japan, but we haven't seen it internationally in a long time) Digimon World 1 was also more of a pet raising game, but Digimon also shifted towards turn-based RPGs as time went on. We can see a pattern begining to form. For Monster Tamer/Creature Collector games to be successful in the past, they needed to follow the trend. That trend being turn-based RPGs. Which caused the genre to stagnant. So Palworld is sort of a perfect storm of sorts. It entered early access at a time where the audience perception of the Pokémon games is at the lowest it has ever been. So people are actively looking for something different. ANYTHING DIFFERENT! And here comes Palworld to fill that void right when people were looking for it. I honestly feel that literally any game where you can catch and use monsters that wasn't a turn-based RPG would have the same people clambering for it. Palworld was just the first in a long time to see success internationally. But you also can't just make Pokémon into Palworld without the edge because Pokémon at it's very core is a turn-based RPG. That is a core part of its identity. And removing that core no longer makes it Pokémon. So the disappointment of Legends: Arceus being a turn-based RPG is honestly quite silly if you ask me. Because if people went into PLA with the expectation it wasn't going to be a turn-based RPG, then they never really wanted a Pokémon game in the first place.
@EclecticMEMES420
@EclecticMEMES420 3 месяца назад
i started to play PocketPair's previous game Craftopia and I fully believe that the Anubis in Palworld is a throwback/easter egg to the Anubis in Craftopia. in Palworld, you create a statue to spend Lifmunk Essence to improve you player, and in Craftopia you can spend essence balls to improve your player by visiting Anubis. I fully believe that they weren't thinking of Lucario when creating Anubis, I think they just made the Anubis from Craftopia into a Pal and stylised it as a throwback. they're both based off Anubis, so similarities are obviously going to happen, and in this sole case when it comes to pals and pokemon, this one is pure coincidence.
@eldenvedetta635
@eldenvedetta635 3 месяца назад
There's too many Pokemon for there to never be coincidences like that yeah lol, also On Google Images, look up Pokemon Dragonquest Copy, one of the first few pictures shows DIRECT copies of Dragonquest creatures that Pokemon were. Koffing, Ghastly, Dragonite, etc were ALREADY copies themselves.
@fw00m62
@fw00m62 3 месяца назад
Yeah, like, Anubis would've 100% existed without Lucario existing first
@addison_v_ertisement1678
@addison_v_ertisement1678 3 месяца назад
Also, Nintendo doesn't own Anubis.
@_-Lx-_
@_-Lx-_ 3 месяца назад
Lucario is one of the most popular pokemon of all time, and the visual similarities are pretty strong. As a big Palworld supportor, I feel it's safe to say Anubis is inspired by Lucario fairly obviously.
@grimbobagman4133
@grimbobagman4133 3 месяца назад
I think the big thing that keeps bugging me about the Palworld vs Pokemon debate is so many people saying 'This is what Pokemon should have done already.' I wouldn't mind one bit if Pokemon made a more action/survival game as a spinoff similar to Palworld but I cannot stress enough how heartbreaking it would be to me if they just completely dropped turn-based gameplay for the mainline series. I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea, but being able to take my time, get to know what my mons can do, seeing them grow throughout the journey of the main game... It's Comfort Food gaming to me. I'd ESPECIALLY hate to see the state of Competitive Pokemon without turn-based combat, completely losing the strategic elements the system offers. I'm SO stoked folks who enjoy Third-Person-Shooter/Survival gameplay have a fun monster collector they can sink their teeth into... But I absolutely don't want mainline Pokemon to become that.
@JDReC100
@JDReC100 3 месяца назад
I think people are mostly talking about the open world and creature interations/animations. The guns are nice but people have wanted the above stuff more.
@D3adCl0wn
@D3adCl0wn 3 месяца назад
@@JDReC100 THIS! How are people missing this obvious point when people say "Pokemon should've done this by now". And ALWAYS people point out the survival mechanics/gameplay as some sort of deflection. XD NOBODY ever asked for pokemon to be a survival game
@lukebytes5366
@lukebytes5366 3 месяца назад
​@@D3adCl0wnthen that distinction should be made in the first place. You don't get to call an animal shooting game inherently better than Pokemon without context.
@Slade951
@Slade951 3 месяца назад
They can keep turn base game and still make another game based on the same ip. Like league of legends has TFT and trading card game other than their moba. Blizzard World of warcraft mmo, warcraft rts, blizzard moba, hearthstone.
@Bionickpunk
@Bionickpunk 3 месяца назад
The battle system in Palworld is garbage. The type system and move pool of pals are simplistic. There is no strategy, just spam whatever designated attack the pal has and hope it dmgs enough. The pal combat was definitely an afterthought compared to even something like the building mechanic. Palworld should fix that gameplay cause it gets boring really fast.
@anikapt8728
@anikapt8728 3 месяца назад
13:10 the animation looks more like "cute parrot walking" meme which walks around exactly like that instead of the cartoon running with their feet going on circles? animation?
@MilqueAndToast
@MilqueAndToast 3 месяца назад
Dinnosum was the first one a friend showed me. I didn't know what Palworld was and I asked, like "Oh, did someone make a Pokemon Infinite Fusion 3d model? They made Lilligant's flower weird, but they made Meganium's face well." We had a laugh. And then I pointed out it also has Servine's/Serperior's tail haha. Anyway, I like ARK and Pokemon, so I'm gonna go buy it now that I know it exists. (:
@auggie4269
@auggie4269 3 месяца назад
I will say in regards to the ‘Pokemon never tries anything different’ thing, there are tons of spinoffs that do try different genres with Pokemon, but they often never sell as much as the main series, and it’s not due to a lack of quality in most cases. I do agree GameFreak should take bigger steps towards evolving the series, Arceus is a prime example of what they can do if they choose to. But I can also understand that straying too far away from Pokemon’s core tends to result in numbers that don’t compare to the basic turn based battles. I do hope that this does push them to consider trying further innovation or genre experimentation. If Final Fantasy made a smooth jump from turn-based to another form of RPG, Pokemon can too.
@manen2391
@manen2391 3 месяца назад
I think the main problem with getting rid of turn based gameplay for pokemon is that at the end of the day its still made with kids in mind, and younger kids have an easier time with turn based gameplay, it allows kids to understand the game better and not get frustrated to the point of not wanting to play it, yes would it be a nice change for older gamers yes, but I think the turn based gameplay is what allows pokemon to be a game for everyone
@Its_Asteria
@Its_Asteria 3 месяца назад
​@@manen2391something I suggested was simply improving the turn based to be more interesting but still core and easy to grasp for new players. Or better yet what many have suggested for years, difficulty settings. If they could pull off two game modes for two different difficulties for different players, it'd be perfect
@nicodalusong149
@nicodalusong149 3 месяца назад
I do believe it was said in a didyouknowgaming video that pokemon is purposefully made to be a game accessible to everyone. It has to be easy enough for kids to play and simple enough for old people to operate. Granted, on the old people side, we're talking mostly computer illiterate folks which was a lot of people 20-30 years ago so that might not apply as much now. On changing gameplay, it's extremely difficult because every single move is tied to the turn-based nature of the combat. Unlike Final Fantasy (and many similar games) where the turn-based combat fairly gives each side a chance to do their turns, Pokemon has turn-based combat where both sides choose their moves and the timing and order of actions is acted out. Pokemon battles then play more like Magic: The Gathering matches than traditional jrpg battles. (Put another way, pokemon battles simulate a full round of combat between the player and the enemy per action rather than doing a "my turn, your turn" thing.) Therein lies the difficulty (and also the reason why Pokemon Conquest made sense as a spin-off).
@_-Lx-_
@_-Lx-_ 3 месяца назад
I hate they way people disrespect turn based RPGs. Pokemon being a Turn Based RPG isn't the issue, that's the series's genre, it's like being mad that mainline Mario games are platformers and not FPSs. Pokemon's issue is the severely sloppy incompetent management, half baked ideas, rushed releases, and unprofesional apathy. They are shaking up changes recently, and do have very good ideas at times, but never reach their potential due to being incompetent programmers/designers with impossible deadlines and work ethic. Scarlet/Violet have so many fantastic elements, but they're buried in a tangled mess of abyssmal coding, and half finished ideas, that ruin the experince for so many people and are a hard pill to swallow even for enjoyers. A rwal time Pokemon game cpuld be really cool, But SV's concepts were great and had creativity to them, issue is, it was never handled with any form of care, and was left a tangled broken mess without it's potential realized and so many glaring flaws weiging it down.
@the_godbodor7026
@the_godbodor7026 3 месяца назад
Summary, the drama online about Palworld is extremely overbloated by people on both sides of the argument
@DryIhs
@DryIhs 3 месяца назад
100% agreed! 👍
@personalemail9329
@personalemail9329 3 месяца назад
I see only hardcore Pokémon fans malding over it. Is this some kind of "both sides bad" ? Because most Palworld fans don't really cared till Pokekids got salty and started bashing the game.
@kyrone2406
@kyrone2406 3 месяца назад
As I am playing palword, I usually frequent the reddit of the game pretty often for help, mainly for resources or breeding help, and yeah, the palword fans can get pretty toxic.
@moxie1238
@moxie1238 3 месяца назад
​@ZoomerStasi Some of them act like this game is gonna be the big pokemon killer, when we all know that's not true. And whenever you have genuine criticisms for the game they go "oooh, look at the salty pokemon fanboy" it's so irritating
@thekirbyguy4576
@thekirbyguy4576 3 месяца назад
​​@@personalemail9329 Literally no Pokemon fans are malding over anything bro, all sorts of people, Pokemon fans or not, just think it's lame that the designs are so blatantly copied, that's it. Palworld fans call everyone who thinks that Palworld is unoriginal a bootlicker even when most Pokemon fans hate GameFreak too. They act like Verdash and Cinderace aren't even remotely similar and will call you a shill for thinking they are while simultaneously spamming that Dragon Quest image saying that Shell Slime and Omanyte is an example of plagiarism by Game Freak. Both sides are toxic, but Palworld fans are even more so imo.
@vinigressana
@vinigressana 3 месяца назад
What bothers me most about this game is that the design of the creatures don't match the human character designs or the environment. Like... AT ALL. They all seem like cartoon stickers glued to a photograph.
@azurajae
@azurajae 3 месяца назад
As someone who has been following Kingdom Hearts for my entire life, this is strangely a non-issue for me, I don't think even Palworld can live up to the visual dissonance between Donald Duck, anime boy, and realistic Jack Sparrow (oh and the enemy pirates have "guns"), but its pretty close xD
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 3 месяца назад
Yeah, like they don't belong in the world they live in. Maybe that's part of lore? Don't know. I hear no one talking about what this game is about or if it is good. Like, if they look out of place because they are out place then it makes sense.
@archmagetyler
@archmagetyler 3 месяца назад
the reason for fox pyromancers (as stated) is just the fact that foxes with fire is kind of just a Japanese mythos thing. hell wixen is even colored like a Japanese shrine fox is often depicted with white and red underneath those robes. not arguing it's change be because pokemon did a fox mage that everyone thinks is a witch (which only kinda correct rather than open shut) but hey, i give points where i can.
@Zora_TheSideCharacter
@Zora_TheSideCharacter 3 месяца назад
Palworld is a hodgepodge of all sorts of other games mixed together, it isn't all that original, however it is still very fun to play.
@MinervaMayhem07
@MinervaMayhem07 3 месяца назад
However, one could argue that by throwing so many different things from so many different places it creates its own original sort of identity. Like, the main gameplay loop revolves around using Pals, ethicaly or not, to advance industry. This is a, at least to my knowledge, never before seen type of game; even Ark's Dinosaur based collection system wasn't this indepth as the Dinos in Ark were mostly just for Transport and Boss battles with only a few dinosaurs being able to collect materials. So I would argue that its ability to successfully merge elements from many diverse sources gives its own sense of originallity.
@_-Lx-_
@_-Lx-_ 3 месяца назад
​@@MinervaMayhem07 Yeah, it can be argued Palworld is original/unique the same way something such as Undertale was in 2015. How many other turn based bullet hell mother influnced RPGs with SMT negotation can you name? Likewise, how many monster taming 3rd person shooter survival games qhere you get your brainwashed monsters to run factoriew for you with comedic tonap whiplash between adorable and morbid can you name. When you take enough things from such a large variety of seperate sources, The end result ends up being a unique concuction. No one has mixed all these spesific traits together before. That's how originaluty works, it's impossible to br entirely original, eveything has DNA of something else, so get creative with what you mix and add your own spice in the mix if you want a new experience. Plus, more of the same is perfectly fine anyway regardless.
@HowlFromBeyond
@HowlFromBeyond 3 месяца назад
Chillet is F tier? You've made an enemy for life!
@JbearTheHappyPanda
@JbearTheHappyPanda 3 месяца назад
Of course Chillet is F-tier. It looks just like a ferret if it was a dragon ice type. Wait just a damn minute... Source: I have a ferret. It looks like a ferret. Because it's a ferret. Christ on a christmas tree.
@jukesdtj656
@jukesdtj656 3 месяца назад
@@JbearTheHappyPanda Oh my god Furret is a Ferret who would have seen that coming.
@Akefia
@Akefia 3 месяца назад
Yeah, that placement was weird. It's the same as with the birds. Pokemon doesn't own ferrets. Or hedgehogs.
@hermeister3870
@hermeister3870 3 месяца назад
@@jukesdtj656 funny thing is I'm french and the english name always made me do a double take because that's one letter off from the french worde for ferret: "furet" so yeah it's even more egregious from that perspective lol
@cesargpfis
@cesargpfis 3 месяца назад
​@@Akefia I think it was well placed. There are a lot of very different birds, but a ferret is a very specific subgroup of animals. If you want to make a ferret-inspired monster, at least don't make it have exactly the same face, proportions and size as pre-existing ones. Like, both Pangoro and the Kung Fu grass panda Pal are panda-inspired, but you can clearly see differences. Chillet is a blue Furret. You could pass it as a regional variant and I wouldn't even blink at the idea. It is cute, but that doesn't make it original.
@kersa4743
@kersa4743 3 месяца назад
so chillet is f tier because its a ferret and pokemon did a ferret? same with jolthog, its a cartoony hedgehog.
@venomgaming7014
@venomgaming7014 3 месяца назад
In my entire life, I have never seen a pirate penguin.
@ralcogaming7674
@ralcogaming7674 3 месяца назад
I gotta be honest, he screams king dee dee dee to me. Give him a hammer and we're set
@gagegravy8733
@gagegravy8733 3 месяца назад
12:17 All Yokai Watch fans known this Pal is just the Yokai Sheen. Even has the same damn hat flame.
@gagegravy8733
@gagegravy8733 3 месяца назад
Now that we know they will take designs from other monster capture games, we should look into it.
@gavinwoodring6457
@gavinwoodring6457 3 месяца назад
Yes, it looks exactly like it with minor tweaks!!
@thezekenator0968
@thezekenator0968 3 месяца назад
Truuuue
@musicsheep9816
@musicsheep9816 3 месяца назад
I would moreso say all Yo-Kai Watch fans have already been through this situation where Pokémon fans called Yo-Kai Watch a Pokémon ripoff and bankrupted sales in the US even though it wasn't even a similar game to Pokémon.
@ditzyditz7329
@ditzyditz7329 3 месяца назад
Yea I noticed that too, I still want to play Palworld whenever I will get the chance
@graffittibeat21
@graffittibeat21 3 месяца назад
So now we start the waiting game for TerminalMontage and Lockstin to make the Palworld battle royale.
@Bionickpunk
@Bionickpunk 3 месяца назад
That would be fun, but how would you even do that since the battle mechanic is so simple?
@naganut9718
@naganut9718 3 месяца назад
I have to disagree with the last few takes. With the recent info of Gamefreak taking more time on game development, and the fact their 2 recent mainline games are probably their most unique yet, I don't think it's because they lack innovation. Pokemon at its core will always be a turned base rpg, and I feel like many people are asking for something Pokemon isn't a genre of. It's like asking Mario to not be a platformer, it's not something Pokemon would ever do because at the end of the day, that's Pokemon's bread and butter Gamefreak have clear issues, but it isn't laziness or lack of innovation. Yes they're obviously have greed in them, but I wouldn't call them those two issues. If anything I saw the flaws of Pokemon being unsuited (at least not yet) to step to an HD 3D world game yet, they're clearly made for smaller handheld games, due to their frequent release schedule and whatnot
@rayquarizard2911
@rayquarizard2911 3 месяца назад
I agree that pokemon should remain a turn based rpg but mario is like the worst possible example you could give, because mario is also a racing game and a golf game and even a typing game that one time
@naganut9718
@naganut9718 3 месяца назад
@@rayquarizard2911 I meant the mainline games, not spin offs
@dxjxc91
@dxjxc91 3 месяца назад
If *I* were making a pyromancer just in general, I'd use a salamander. If I were making a pyromancer for a game with *norse inspiration,* since the northern lights were sometimes called fox fire, and fire is red, I'd use the northern European red fox. Or I could be fancy and use the arctic fox and work northern lights into its design. But yeah, it would definitely be some kind of fox strictly for the fox fire term.
@HaiLexiBoo
@HaiLexiBoo 3 месяца назад
"what do you make your cotton candy sweet monster? a fluffy dog??" its name is literally Woolipop. It's another sheep, not a dog. :-)
@timwoods2852
@timwoods2852 3 месяца назад
Perhaps it is a sheep-dog. Ba-dump, tiss! 🥁
@RuBoo001
@RuBoo001 3 месяца назад
It’s apparently both?
@akkimessiah3219
@akkimessiah3219 3 месяца назад
I stopped watching as soon as he said that
@pizzzaeater1425
@pizzzaeater1425 3 месяца назад
@@akkimessiah3219 because no one is ever allowed to get anything wrong? this kind of reaction is exactly what Lockstin, myself, and many other members of this community aim to avoid. we like to use sympathy and critical thinking to inform our reactions. please try to do so next time you leave a comment anywhere, you'll feel better if you do
@akkimessiah3219
@akkimessiah3219 3 месяца назад
You wouldn't get this wrong if you used critical thinking lmao they look nothing alike @@pizzzaeater1425
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 3 месяца назад
12:18 Hisuian Decidueye when Lockstin says Pokémon hasn't done a ronin: 🤨
@Delta-es1lg
@Delta-es1lg 3 месяца назад
But isn't Hisuian Decidueye more of a martial artist?
@starwarschamp4806
@starwarschamp4806 3 месяца назад
Its design is based on one, but it's also an owl, whereas the Pal is humanoid.
@catsuneniku
@catsuneniku 3 месяца назад
I think an important thing to keep in mind however, is that the devs of palworld have 1: Stated that they had no idea people would see similarities to Pokémon, ruling out parody. And 2. They also have borderline plagiarized other games, including indie games like hollow knight. Idk, this game still feels REALLY gross to me. I don't support harassing and threatening the devs but I don't believe they deserve to be defended over this being their most original content ever.
@Elekaz-Z
@Elekaz-Z 3 месяца назад
They really said the first one? Verdash alone should prove that false lol.
@catsuneniku
@catsuneniku 3 месяца назад
@@Elekaz-Z in an interview at one point, yeah I don't rember who that interview was with but I remember it happening
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 3 месяца назад
Yeah, I don't like that Pokemon or any artists work so hard to make unique designs, and then these guys steal them for their own profit.
@jeremygallardo3136
@jeremygallardo3136 3 месяца назад
Mobile monster collecting games like "Puzzle & Dragons" and "Crash Fever" are not out of the loop when it comes to dishing out several hundred monster designs that sprung from generic concepts but may varily differ in interpretations. Seiryu and the cardinal beasts has been quite used quite frequently throughout the years to point that there are literally a million different versions of them in fiction, and chances of a few them potentially being copycats are not impossible. Every once and a while there are a unique and original design, but it still stems from at least one known concept or idea.
@Slade951
@Slade951 3 месяца назад
15:10 I disagree on pokemon inventing those cloud thing. It's a Eastern portrayal of demi gods and deity who mostly appear in the sky riding clouds. Imagine sun wukong riding on cloud, a human from below can only see above torso because the flying nimbus is covering the legs. That's why one piece kaido dragon doesn't fly but actually generate cloud that he grabs and walk.
@foxtopuscreations6046
@foxtopuscreations6046 3 месяца назад
Just look at Goku riding on flying Nimbus
@jonathanflanagan1504
@jonathanflanagan1504 3 месяца назад
He was referring to them specifically also being oni though, wasn't he?
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 3 месяца назад
Right but do they all go shirtless with cloud hair and no lower body but the cloud?
@user-og8jy1ib7f
@user-og8jy1ib7f 3 месяца назад
yeah I see a lot Asian Gods depicted standing or riding clouds. Heck Lakitu has been around since Mario 1 and I think Gaijin Goombah actually covered this way back when he was on gametheory.
@Slade951
@Slade951 3 месяца назад
@@jonathanflanagan1504 yes the Japanese has those demi god depicted that way. Normal oni is just giant brutes eating humans. These magical oni have "job" as gods. Creating thunder, lightning and rain. Google raijin and fujin. One piece Enel himself with his back drum circles and luffy gear fourth smoke ribbon are a reference to these gods.
@BIazendraco
@BIazendraco 3 месяца назад
Halfway through the video I couldn't tell if you were rating them based on how similar they were to pokemon or similar to an idea that already exists.
@bloodwolfgaming9269
@bloodwolfgaming9269 3 месяца назад
Yea...some of them started to go out there. I thought it was going to be how original they were compared to Pokemon, but then they started comparing them to other things. And then a lot of their lower placements were literally "It would be fine in any other game but because it's in Palworld, it's a blatant rip-off."
@1faithchick7
@1faithchick7 3 месяца назад
Yeah I got really confused towards the end. He started rating things based on concepts, some pokemon hasn't even done but he still rated them low. Pokemon does 'just an animal' all the time, bur he rated the kirin Pal low because it is 'just a kirin'... even though pokemon never did that creature before. Others were just 'this is the same animal as a pokemon. It isn't actually like any pokemon, but..." The t pot elephant and the electric dog ones confused the heck out of me. Somewhere someone has come up with the same concept. The execution is what matters. The other ones were comparing body parts. Like, yeah. Most fox will have a evee like tail because evee just has a fox tail, and looks like a fox. Whalelored is just a big whale. Furret is just a ferret. Anything based on those animals will look similar.
@Benzux
@Benzux 3 месяца назад
I thought it was pretty clear from the start. Yes, a good portion of the comparison is doing direct Pokemon comparisons, but he also brings in things from other franchises and otherwise bland or uninspired/unoriginal ideas. That's what the tiers are.
@OliGuerIng
@OliGuerIng 3 месяца назад
Thanks for this balanced view on the whole situation. I have been playing Pokémon for years and I enjoy playing Palworld. To me it feels like 2 different games. Or Pokémon with the combination of a survival game. Saying that Palworld is like “ Pokémon with guns” doesn’t feel accurate to me. I do see the similarities (sometimes very strong) between some pokemons and some pals. And yes, the developers of Palworld were definitely inspired by Pokémon when creating their games. However, where does inspiration ends and copy begins ? That’s a debatable question.
@lyn4739
@lyn4739 3 месяца назад
I normally agree with stuff on this channel, but this tier list has to be the best reach I've seen since Halo. There's also an insane amount of inconsistency in the rankings. Katress gets D tier because it has a mage hat? Which Mismagius also has? But something like the deer thing gets S tier? C'mon now...
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