I have my first university history exam tomorrow and I have to say, throughout this first year, your videos have blown my mind and completely changed the way I think about modern history and politics. You sir, have done more for my degree than any internet commentator could. Well done, the most incredibly well researched videos I have seen. Your videos have given me a passion for understanding political philosophy!
@@TheImperatorKnight Thank you man, you really have provided a completely alternative stream of knowledge to so many people that are only taught elsewhere what they're meant to think. An absolute breath of fresh air!
One notable thing about TIK is that he's totally forensic about the philosophy, no agendas here, just deep analysis and understanding. Deep Thought & Hard Work go into all of these videos.
I've got a step son that's fallen into marxism (antifascism)... and I've been desperate for an introduction into why Fascism, Naziism, and Communism are bitter brothers... not opposites. I need to rewatch this a few times, but this might be the magic introduction I need. I can't praise and encourage these videos enough. You're doing incredibly valuable work.
@DELETED what if you didn't take into account he cares about him and/ or is fully aware his male role model in his life? I'm inclined to think is more helpful to tackle his personal fears and worries since those are the building blocks of any fanatical ideology
@@NDV3355 I saw a video with some smart kids in a school setting who wanted to be communist. So, after an important test, the teacher averaged all of their grades and gave everyone the same grade. The smart kids, naturally, were dragged down the most and were now failing with everyone else, even though they had studied the most. It got the point across.
Well, you would not persuade him to turn around by TIK's videos. 😁 Marxism is dumbed down materialism - i.e. your success in life is determined by material wealth. National-socialism is more refined materialism, i.e. it is based on genetics - your genes determine your future. Fascism is almost pure idealism, i.e. if you believe in something you could create it. What is most important : you do not have alternative to offer to your step-son. All you have is a stupid ideology of egotism (Ayn Rand and similar crap) , that is presently ruining the West.
Side note: I think you did a good job of not insisting on perfection in this production and also covering a good bit of ground without going too deep. If anything you might have given a bit too much detail in this one. But I just want to encourage you, we're getting a lot of value out of videos like this and you can dribble it out even more gradually and keep us happy (and you sane) 😊
I studied Political Science in college, and the emphasis on Plato was tremendous. Aristotle, by contrast, was given just a few lines of introduction. No wonder, Platonic collectivism is the de facto political economic narrative around the world.
Aristotle was, bluntly, an idiot. He completely misunderstood platos theory of forms by categorizing physical objects, hence science. Plato doesn't even mention artistotle as one of his students. Aristotle advised alexander and gained money and political influence: the exact opposite of what Plato and socrates advocated for.
The German economy, which was developed already at the beginning of the 19th century as an alternative to the Anglo-Saxon one whose base is the Jewish spirit (Judaized Protestant Adam Smith, David Ricardo), is incomparably better, and this was proven by NS. There is a huge German literature on the subject that is completely unknown in the USA and the UK. Without stock markets and speculative capital. Capitalism is a completely unnatural state. It has never existed in any civilization, including the West until Protestantism (see Max Weber). Liberalism and communism are exactly the same ideologies born from the same Judaized spirit of Christianity - egalitarianism (everyone is equal before God, which is untrue and unimaginable in, for example, Aryan Hinduism), individualism (it is important to save one's own soul and the community is second-rate) and globalism (everyone must hear God's word and go to Christianity. Liberalism and communism are constructions and abstractions. The individual does not exist as a community which Aristotle rightly asserted. From birth to death there is a community at every step. He cannot even call for the gift of speech. The subject is very demanding and requires a great deal of philosophical knowledge, which only the genius of the German has, and the knowledge of other religions and civilizations.
The fundamental philosophical thought is that the WHOLE is before the PART. Hegel knew this, but before him all the pre-Socratics, Plato, Aristotle, and the entire Indian and Chinese philosophy. If you have, for example, a stone or anything, it precedes a part of the stone or, to the extreme, an atom. The whole organism precedes the hand, which without a hand (man, cat, whatever) can possibly live, but the hand cannot live independently of the organism, i.e. the whole. The community (closer (family) and wider (society) precedes the individual. The individual is literally "thrown" into the community as Heidegger would say. He does not really exist by himself. Very simple. For example, the great thinker Othmar Spann dealt with the organic state and economy and dozens of others thinkers in Germany .
If you liked Peikoff’s book he has a lot of content on the philosophy of history. ‘The cause of Hitler’s Germany’ was a republishing of part one of Peikoff’s original book ‘The ominous parallels’ in which Peikoff identified similar things in the modern USA. A later book called ‘The DIM hypothesis’ is Peikoff’s more comprehensive theory on the history of ideas.
Peikoff is a philosopher of decadence, just like Ayn Rand. They both promoted egotism as a virtue (so called "individualism") , despite the fact that neither of them could survive even few days alone in the forest 😁Both of them envisaged some kind of society of "free individuals", failing to explain why would anyone voluntarily obey the laws of such society. For example, if I do not have money, what would stop me from stealing except the fear of punishment ? But if I bribe the cop (let say with half of the loot), why wouldn't he let me steal in peace ? This is simplifications, but in fact corrupt and decadent societies operate like that. And yes, both of them were Js 😆
To be precise Kant was more thinking about saving the connection between theology and philosophy that was falling apart, not saving philosophy from science, to stop a process of separation that was underway already. Then I think Nietzsche gives a full expression to that separation and we enter into the modern era of philosophy. People like Heidegger criticise Plato, they get novel ideas, there comes the postmodernism, and a rejection of Plato is expressed the fullest in Deleuze.
@@werrkowalski2985 the question is , is it a rejection in principle. Is it a rejection of the fundamentals and essentials or just minor derivative details . P.s Leonard Peikoffs history of philosophy series on RU-vid is literally intellectual intoxication of the best variety
Woke is collectivist. It has also become a religion in its own right. These are the 10 commandments of 'woke' ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gH1RlXKD4Uo.html
think it is a blessing of chance that we get someone like yourself who undertakes such carefully a detailed demonstration of topics like Nazism, Fascism, Marxism and Socialism. You give a form of dignity to these ideologies because you bring back their deeper understanding and the debunking of popular misconceptions and myths which formed around them following the aftermath of WW2. Keep up the excellent work!
I've been waiting for this video for a couple years. I knew you would eventually come to this point. Once you realize that ALL "third way" systems are mystical religions, and are descendants of a common set of originators, you have that moment. I was fortunate to have a professor in college in the early 80s who laid this all out for us. The "a-ha" moment for us was when he read Marx, Hegel, Kant, Plato, Hitler, and Trotsky together showing how it is all just flavors of a single ancestor seeking an excuse to rule and kill.
It's nothing new to say that all of the history of western philosophy has been platonic in character, all of this is then commented on, questioned, it's a philosophical project that is way bigger than one's lifetime. It's nothing new to say that there have been totalitarian tendencies in Plato. What TIK calls the gnostic religion being underneath all of this is rather just a mode of thinking, there is no some single gnostic mystical tradition that is passed down, it is gnostic thinking. This gnosticism doesn't really meet Durkheim's definition of a religion, even if people believing it may be religious. There is no common ritual, there is really no common ethics beyond fighting against the demiurge, and is there a common commonity? No. That leaves only metaphysics, that's 1/4. So even going by a broad definition it's hardly a religion. And it's not limited to these people who we would consider to be "bad", TIK is a libertarian so I will say that libertarians nowadays can also fall into this mode of thought, as can in general the modern right. In the case of libertarians the evil material world are the states (or socialists, but these could be one and the same), and the states are holding back the pure, unregulated capitalism. There is also a widespread lie of socialism, socialism is wrong yet the states promote it. There are evil anti-capitalist forces in the world. Arguably no esoteric knowledge, so in this case libertarians wouldn't necessarily meet all the points, although maybe one could say that the suppressed writings of Mises or Rothbard are the esoteric knowledge. Libertarians are a piece of good in the world. There you go.
Another mindblowing video from Tik. My brother-in-law was getting involved in Gnostism a decade or so ago. I had a very simple understanding of what it was then. It all makes more sense now.
I have no idea if you'll read this TIK but these politics/ideology videos are your real bread and butter. Love it. The Stalingrad stuff and the "just stick to tanks" stuff is cool, but this is why I really watch your videos.
Greek Philosophy wasn't so much a conversation as it was Greek Philosophers getting aggravated with each other and then insulting each other. Diogenes comes to mind.
@@soulknife20 To some extent, but philosophy really began with Socrates exposing sophists and demagogues. Although some philosophers in ancient Greece fought a lot, many others, like Socrates, simply sook out truth amidst the lies of others. In that sense, philosophy is really seeking fundamental truths about life, the universe, and the human mind that can’t be answered by science (like how to live a fulfilling life, what morality is, the nature of God/reality of the universe, and the fundamental axioms of human nature).
@@aidanm.655 Socrates does come across as a bit of a dick, at least according to Plato's writings. But I think that was more of the way Socrates did his debates than anything else. He really just asked questions until the person he was talking to couldn't defend their point anymore.
@@soulknife20 Yeah, the Socratic method was the way he questioned people and exposed their hypocrisy. Socrates is the father of all Western Philosophy, calling him a “dick” isn’t how I’d put it, but his main contribution was creating the foundation upon which all Philosophers (including those that disagreed with him, like Nietzsche) stand upon.
Im glad I became a patreon after knowing youll be doing political videos,specially hoping for more Weimar republic and fascism videos I cant say how much I appreciate the fascism vs nazism videos,since many people tend to confuse them as one
@@TheImperatorKnight I just started the video however just a thought it might help you make your point better (to those who don't already agree with you) if towards the beginning of the video when you listed and defined altruism and self interest, if you had also pointed out a third position of irrational self-interest which while not practiced by many is something self-interest thinkers had repeatedly condemned while their opponents tried to tie them to it. Obviously you are making videos for your subscribers, but there are many who might lack that context or those who are not your subscribers who might conflate the two much to the dismay of you and the self-interest thinkers. EDIT 1: Wait a minute you never actually read Rand? That's interesting, I thought for sure you would have.
@@TheImperatorKnight Couple of ideas in my post. Would be good to shine light under world then/now might trade weapons .etc. TIk help people keep there home (free) if family,other. Can stop interest rates etc anyway. Love you deep money .
I think you're hitting the nail on the head. I think the more accurate, honest / transparent descriptions of what this "spirit" is. The better or chances of avoiding utter calamity. Loved it.
Great video. I wrote a long exegesis in college called “Hegelian Gnosticism and National Socialism”. I wrote another term paper on the battle within philosophy between Plato and Aristotle from Augustine & Thomas Aquinas to the Renaissance, Kant & the Enlightenment. So I greatly appreciate your work here. Your Eureka, “the blood is the spirit, and the spirit is the blood” is profound. So brilliant that it seems self-evident, yet I confess I never realized it. The anti-semitism and moral obsession with “purity” is usually argued as an outgrowth of Hitler’s over-developed disgust reaction, chauvinism and bigotry mixed with the nascent scientism (gnosis) of Darwinian sociology (eugenics, phrenology, purity, supremacy etc.) instead, it seems a priori and foundational to the ideology and inseparable from concepts (forms & spirits) such as the “state” “Volk” “actualizing potentials” through work/activity (work will set you free line is even more macabre now) the Hegelian & Nazi “good humanity” vs “lazy humanity” as thesis & antithesis In the dialectical process toward synthesis (which is a just an attempt at Gnostic epistemology IMO). Anyway, keep going. Do you have a locals account? Considered live streaming Q&A’s for super chats. Never quit something you love that pays money, for something like work that pays more.
Such scientific explanations as "Nazism was just extreme disgust reaction + inherent tendencies for bigotry, chauvinism, racism" are a reason to doubt overly scientific explanations. People are influenced by ideology and culture. Somewhat ironically the explanation claims that nazism was some inherent mental disorder, and therefore must be cured (presumably by some kind of conversion therapy), or the people sick from it must be eliminated from society. It leaves people blind to the influence of ideology and ideas. Certainly, Hitler wouldn't have gained such power if he was just another social darwinist, eugenicist, and racist, after all that was a significant fraction of a society a century earlier. Another funny take is trying to reduce it all to racism. There were many people more racist than Hitler.
Ironically, one of the most influential authors in the political thinking of Western democracies was Hegel. The relationship between Plato, Hegel and Nazism is a Popperian bs that has been demolished for decades, but which lives on through propaganda funded by neoliberal and conservative think tanks. Liberalism, Fascism and Nazism are different manifestations of capitalism.
Let’s be clear, it’s a stretch to compare Platonism with National Socialism for a number of reasons, mostly because Plato was a philosopher and spiritually inspired, while Hitler and his cronies were criminals and cold-blooded murderers, and there were many high-ranking Nazis who believed in black magic and witchcraft. Also, the notion of nationality and race was very different 2500 years ago. Most everyone lived among their own tribes and clans in particular localities with their own national gods, including the Greeks, while the modern state includes citizens of various religions (Germans can be both Catholic and Protestant) along with religious and or ethnic minorities (Jews before 1939) and have boundaries that can overlap with other states. Plato spoke of logos, the ‘word’ or spirit that unifies all beings in the universe, while the Nazis were only interested in unifying the Aryan race, so to speak. So what’s the point of this video? There’s lots of scum out there who want to legitimize nazism and its foundational dictates. To compare their philosophy with Gnosticism or Platonism is heresy in its purest form.
TIK , your videos are a breath of fresh air without bias. These books you recommend are fantastic and I have went on to purchase many of them. Spending endless sleepless nights until I finish them. I cant get enough of it. Prior to discovering your channels Ive "stuck to tanks' and now these books on ideology have ignited a passion to devour as much of the ideology as possible. And its fascinating. Keep it up
The eastern fromt as a religious war makes so much sense, actually... Hitler did call his invasion a crusade many times... And there is another proof that barbarossa was inevitable, no matter what could have happened.
I would also like to point out that the Western push against Naziism was also called "The great crusade" I post this on the 6th of June. 79 years ago, Eisenhower dictated to the soldiers of liberty as they boarded the landing ships. "You are about to embark upon the great crusade"
Tik, hammer the heck out of this. During the second video you did on this topic you blew my mind. I've a number of interests ranging from religion and theology to history (especially early medieval, Reformation, Civil War and French Revolution) to folklore and occultism, the latter in the sense of a regular person having a grim fascination with true crime. You really threaded the needle with the gnostic relation to socialist ideologies. I found listening to their talking points and understanding where they were coming from both unsettling and strangely familiar - like when Bilbo says "it's mine, my precious" and Gandalf responds "Its been called that before, but not by you." When you hear it for the first time it sounds, forgive my language, batshit. The occult aspect of National Socialism has long been seductive and the domain of fringe pseudo-history, but you've approached this with such academic rigour it's beyond doubt. This field has been so neglected for ao long and it is of such importance for the understanding of modern history and current affairs, not to mention the very nature or humanity, and I can't help but feel your work will be of huge importance to future generations. It's making me reasses how I view the religious conflict from thw Reformation onwards - there are more than a few Protestant denominations I'd now perhaps recognise as having gnostic elements. By the way, my daughter is looking forward to the school holidays she can binge your videos so she can "learn history properly" as she put it. I know you're not a Christian, but God Bless you
@@edcarson3113 Where is the light in Christianity? Is it in 1 + 1 + 1 + = 1 (the doctrine of the Trinity that Jesus did not say) Or in the errors of the Bible Maybe I am wrong and you are right. Give me evidence that Christianity is a true religion, that God is the third of three, that Christ, the Son of God, died and was crucified for our sins, that a holy book was inspired by God, and that it was not subjected to distortion
So, have you finally started to understand that modern wokeism is a Christian, protestant heresy, having its roots in puritans and calvinists? Puritanism and calvinism was an attempt to purify Christianity, but in the process gnostic thinking prevailed, since its more radical, extreme, and can justify radical action. We can achieve the eschaton by getting power through political action, and establishing the Kingdom of God, but in general, more radical and extreme thought helped the puritans win in American ecosystem. Plus catholicism has always been closer to paganism, which historically has been open and welcoming.
@@jaaackaissa1633 Jesus presented the Trinity Matthew 28 : 19 "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" There is no error in the Bible there are just some things you shouldn't take literally. Jesus is the intelligence of God placed in a human body. God's intelligence, his Word, his concept of himself is identical to himself, because the intelligence of a perfect being can only be perfect. He is called his eternal son. There are therefore two processions in God, one of which, precisely that which is accomplished by mode of love, has no proper name. The divine Person who proceeds by mode of love, the scriptural usage has made prevail the name of Holy Spirit. 1) Jesus really existed. His existence is a historical fact. 2) Jesus faced death and never denied his identity as the only begotten son of God. 3) The Apostles had nothing to gain, neither woman nor money. They lived difficult lives in a hostile world to spread the Gospel. You don't risk your life for a lie. 4) To meet God you must adopt a humble attitude and open your heart. John 8 32 "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
It might be a little outside your comfort zone but I’d love to see an episode on how all these different ideologies have morphed to suit the modern world. I’ve done a deep dive into Marxism myself but I have no idea how to even start on the 2 third positionist ideologies without ending up on a list.
Ohhh boy, another amazing hitpiece I’m sure the revisionists will hate. Nice to see you upload a new philosophy video man, the Mosley one from before was great!
I've been making comment to this topic for years on other completely milquetoast channels and subjects and most of the time they're censored or shadow banned....? I wonder why youtoos would even care about this? Philosophical/religious misinformation?
You've hit a home run. Yes, more please. I think we're very much alike, in that for both of us, what began as an interest in "tanks" begs us to dig deeper into the why's and how's, which leads us into economics, philosophy/religion... And the scary part is that these issues have not been resolved - they are the basis of what is tearing the world apart today. I feel like these are matters that we should be studying in earnest.
haha👍 My interest in all of this came from the crazy planes the nazis had. Not too interested in tanks. I've worked with people who were in the hitler youth.
@@sdrc92126 I began typing planes and tanks but decided to shorten it to just tanks with quotation marks since TIK gets messages saying to "stick to tanks". But I agree - love the planes.
I'm incredibly excited every time you post a philosophy/gnosticism video, at least for me, and it may sound somewhat demanding, no! It is not enough. I'd love to see more videos of yours diving even deeper into this pool
1:34 I am a (proud and educated) native speaker of Standard German (with little fluency in the Ripuarian dialect and negligible knowledge of the Moselle Franconian dialect), yet this literally is the first time I have heard the word "Plichterfüllung", which, to be fair, is a, grammatically and semantically perfectly valid, composite word in Standard German, and yonder previously to me unknown word is also intelligible, or rather tailorable to any German dialect (that I know of, in Germany proper as well as German dialects abroad), nevertheless, there are innumerable possibilities to form composite words like this, Jagd-Leiter (hunt leader), Meister-Koch (master cook) etc pp, therefore Hitler, this poop-munching pig-humper, had been basically abusing the synthetic features of the German language for the most wrong means possible. P.S. I mean synthesis (of words) in the linguistic sense, not in the dialectic sense. Not the same thing
This video REALLY made me realize just how much needs to be worked through before ww2 can be left behind us. Especially here in germany. its just dead and buried and even talking about it objectively gets you weird looks from everyone. Youre not allowed to challange it. Not one bit. Complete ideological suppression. And all this stuff needs to be worked through and established in mainstream thought. Otherwise this spectre will never go away. But it reminds me of this quote thats attributed to some communist. "If you hold the keys to the past, you control the present" and we see this played out in real time. Because the grift of redefining hitler to the right of the political spectrum, current day efforts of communists can thrive like they otherwise would not, if society was clued in.
I think the use of a time line graph with a picture and a quote of each historical person would help the novice understand how time morphs the original idea to fit the need of it's current user. I finished my political science degree many years ago but you are one of the best teachers I have had. I have family members who escaped from Mao's revolution. I have seen the killing fields in Cambodia. Socialism scares me.
The "Blood is Spirit" concept hit me the same way it hit you. An epiphany. I instantly started cross referencing the idea in my mind with every religious tale/practice, fidelity ritual, phrase, folklore, myth etc I could think of & it checks out. It's been there all along, over & over again for millennia after millennia. I want to say it gives so many blood references a whole new meaning but that wouldn't accurate. "Signed it blood" practically spelled it out. Vampires it couldn't get more obvious. The concept is everywhere. Something to think about next time I donate blood. Hmm...Bled=the loss of spirit past tense? Bleeding- losing spirit present tense? I'm gonna give the vid a second watch, cause I didn't catch everything & you gave me enough information to investigate on my own for now. Kudos!
Have you been to a Catholic mass or seen one depicted in film/TV? _'This is the body of Christ. This is the blood of Christ.'_ I'm more familiar with the CoE, but the rituals of the eucharist are very similar. The Byzantine Catholic Church has this to say: 'In the Holy Eucharist, then, Jesus gives us His own body and blood as spiritual food in order to nurture and sustain divine life of grace in us. And He himself assures us: “Just as I have life because of my Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have (spiritual) life because of me.”'
@@gagamba9198 that is not the same kind of blood. Well they're talking about is closer to the reason why raced based gangs were calling each other blood before there was a gang called the Bloods.
Are you ready for the next hit? :) The Blood is Spirit for the Nazis. Where's the Spirit today? Identity is Spirit. Hey, aren't we in... "Pride month"? ;)
Last night I remembered that nazi medical experimentation revolved around blood coagulation. I think it was called polygal. Then I wondered what, if any, connection to c-vids and it's purported coagulating properties.
More gold. You're coherently bouncing across 3000 years of history, I've been digging into the same ideas elsewhere but it's a pleasure to see them synthesised so eloquently in one place. Edit: Yes, deeper please.
Great video. I've been trying to articulate this point for a few years now. 18th and 19th century German philosophy left a wake of destruction that the world is still dealing with to this day. I'll have to read Peikoff's book.
I agree with your assessment of German philosophers. I have always suspected that European philosophy was heavily influenced by the fact of European ethnic conflict and the need to find a way to reconcile Germanic, Slav, Tatar, Mongol and Turkish people, either by conquest or genocide.
Brilliantly explained as usual. Although I'm one of those Battlestorn advocates, I love you insights on politics, specially those exposing the backgroung of those ideologies responsible of so much pain and horror. Thanks again, your channel is a gift to any history lover.Take care of yourself (good diet, exercise, rest, studying and disciplined work) and keep it coming!
Keep it coming! This stuff is kind of mind-blowing. It's as if James Lindsey has found a key that unlocks a long-obscured perspective that is essential for understanding many topics. Kudos to you for in your own way stumbling upon this as you were exploring some of the most insidious ideologies of the last century.
I've been telling people this stuff for a few years now. My friends think I'm crazy. That may be so, but I fell less alone now. The censorship around this topic is insane, worse than around the outbreak You know the Zoroastrians wore surgical masks in the religious ceremonies....
Tik and James Lindsay hae become very important teachers of both the history, and indirec, the present day use of all these ideologies. While Tik teaches us the history of these ideologies, James Lindsay teaches the "science" of them.
I just want to say that I find that the videos in which you discuss the history of ideas, or philosophies, tied often to theology, and historical events is where you are best. I remember in school, both grade school and University, often feeling like I was missing something in that I was not getting as a unified teaching, not only the history of events, but a solid history of the ideas that were motivating men. Such in depth analysis that you give really pulls things together and makes sense out of the mess called history.
Excellent to see your analysis. I always had the "feeling" that fascism, naziism and communism were all just variations of the same ideology (religion). I had an excellent school course called "theory of knowledge" which did cover some of the philosphers you analyse, but never made the connections nor worked out any conclusions...
How can fascism and communism be the same ideology when communism genocided 50 million russians through man made famines while fascism saved italy, hungary, germany, austria, spain and even parts of asia? You people are truly brainwashed by the six million cookies😂 founders and leaders of communism were jewish. Now you understand why fascism is against jewish people. Jewish people wrote books about this. Its all about semites vs white people. Its all about judaism vs christianity. It always was.
A road is a collection of things (asphalt, paint, concrete) in the same way a society is. Those things are also a collection of things. Also, your hand is a collection of things. If that makes some a religious idea, everything is a religious idea.
I really hope you take the time to read the shorter Plato dialogues, and you can see his argument for the Forms and why it is so much more than just some idea of gods. Plato explored the nature of thinking, and he had the insight that something seems to be structuring our thinking not related to just our experience. It seems you are assuming Hume's empiricism that is the ground of Rand.
The one common denominator with Fascism, Marxism, and National Socialism is the primacy of the state. What you have done with this video helps us to understand how they all got there. I would've never considered ancient Greek thought as the origin for 20th century ideology. Fascinating. Thank you. The Bible was correct when it said: "There is nothing new under the sun".
@SirBelomor 😂😂 yeh right, Liberation from 'The Cave' (your societal cult-ural conditioning from infancy, your delusionary reactionary 'self') is fascist, you've got a long way to go. He meant Enlightenment.
Thank you for adding the Gnosticism perspective. I took the idea of such a 'Weltanschauung' from you, and a lot of movements that start nicely (NOT the Nazis, that was dangerous even without Gnosticism) and then turn into a self-serving 'religion' with one or more cult leaders that run the show for their own needs, exploiting the idealism/naivity of their followers. My feeling is the whole 'Wokeism' stuff falls into the same pattern. In the beginning it might have been a good idea to elevate to oppressed, but it has turned into a tool of oppression itself by now. I'm green/social democratic, so like the idea of a more tolerant society.
You, and the Italian Professor. Barbero, are my ABSOLUTE HEROES of Historians. And my second ones are of course, Armchair Historian, Mark Felton, and many others. 🙏 And yes, I'm Italian.
That's because "we" is just a collection of individuals. Humanity has no collective mind, will, or spirit. Those are anthropomorphisms of ideas. No one is born with all the knowledge of all previous individuals. Each individual must learn to walk and speak and read individually. Likewise, every plumber and philosopher must learn his trade for himself.
@user "WHO WAS MY MOTHER? Was it that sweet soul who conceived me and gave me a physical birth? The land of my birth first claimed me and provided food and shelter; the church where my father was so active, sponsored controlling tenents for guiding my young and wavering feet. Or is there a force back of all these that is parent to them all? As I go to remnants of ancient cultures I find that, though differing in color and size, they are all true to type and all disclose the same constant relation to variations in physical form and behavior and share these variations with all the animal forms of their district. They all fit into an endless scheme revealing interrelationshps exceeding the most varied assortment of known vital forms. They include all the geologic strata of the epochs through which this earth has passed and hence must be related to its very structure. Living forms have been adapted to the changing physical environments. Earnest students of living cultures find them each sympathetic to some controlling motive. Ernest Thompson Seton, an earnest student of the American Indian, summarizes the indians' motive as being 'fundamentally spiritual, his measure of success is, "How much service have I rendered to my people?"' Dr. M.F. Ashley-Montagu, distinguished anatomist and anthropologist, in discussing motives of the Australian Aborigine and the average Eskimo, states: 'We are very definitely their inferiors. We lisp noble ideals and noble sentiments -- the Australians and Eskimos practice them -- they neither write books nor lecture about them. Theirs are the only true democracies where every individual finds his happiness in catering to the happiness of the group, and where any one who in any way threatens the welfare of the group is dealt with as an abnormality.'" -Weston A Price, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, Conclusion
This is one of the videos that make me especially proud to be on your Patreon list. I've always been an Ayn Rand fan, but I've not made all the connections you made here. Excellent! Hope you go further with Ayn Rand. Her philosophy, objectivism, is based on four tenets: objective reality; absolute reason; self-interest; and free trade between free agents (also known as capitalism). Here's a couple of her quotes that might apply to your situation where you are trying to decide on your work--and overwork--on the channel: "You have been called selfish for the courage of acting on your own judgement and bearing sole responsibility for your own life." “Learn to value yourself, which means: fight for your happiness.” Thanks again, for all your work.
@@chriscross7494 It feels like we're living through it right now with the whole transhumanist movement and quest for technological immortality. There will be no second revolt --CS Lewis
@@chriscross7494 Are you saying I'm part of an extraterrestrial plot to take over England with "niceness"? First, why would anyone bother? Second, why would any extraterrestrial want to come to the insane asylum of the universe? (And yes, I know it's an allegory.)
@terrorbilly684 I'm sorry, but did you not listen to this video you are discussing? Did you not get the connection between Plato and Gnosticism and the Nazi religion? It's OK if you disagree, fine, but thinking that you are moving to a state where you won't have to deal with "negative emotions" is not Zen or any other discipline. The only such state is death.
"No one is going to give you the education you need to overthrow them."... I saw that written somewhere! From Hitler's Hangman: The Life of Heydrich by Robert Gerwarth Page 267 ... ... Heydrich's 'educational policy' was very much in line with Himmler's view, articulated in May 1940, that schooling for the local population in the occupied territories should be reduce to 'simple arithmetic up to 500 at most; writing one's name; a doctrine that it is divine law to obey the Germans and to be honest, industrious and good' In February 1942, Heydrich further announced that he intended to 'strike violently' at the heart of Czech teaching establishment, which he saw as the 'training corps of the opposition' and threatened that he would drastically reduce the number of Czech secondary schools. Czech youth, he noted bitterly, had for too long been mislead by its 'thoroughly chauvinistic teachers'. The collaborationist press echoed the view that education was an unnecessary luxury for the majority of the Czech population. On 1 May 1942, Labour Day, the widely circulated paper Ceske slovo commented: "The fact that we have at present 70,000 secondary school pupils is economically unbearable.' Boys in secondary education, the paper argued, should leave school immediately in order to become apprentices and attend professional schools after training. The aim of these measures, as a British Intelligence Report pointedly remarked, was to turn Czech youths 'into a race of slaves which Herrenvolk system requires'.
It only used to be Kurzgesagt that melted my brain with their videos. But I’ve been binging your national socialism vids, and I have to say, that after I pulled my mind back together, I realized that you are the first person who’s ever explained the ideas and the reasoning behind why the Nazis did what they did. Why their policies seem to contradict each other. Why it’s so hard to pin down what national socialism even is. So thank you for that. It made me wonder though… after all your reading, do you feel like you actually understand the way these people thought?
So with Mein Kampf, Hitler is saying My Struggle, but he uses it as a code for My Key/Path to Enlightenment/Nirvana. Fascinating. Also, Nazism could also be called Bloodtheism, and Hitler's Nazi War is like history repeating itself, a Twentieth Century Mohammad/Abu Bakr declaring a jihad against the world order after a Great War (like Islam did after the Great war between East Roman Empire/Rhomania and Sassanian Persia/Eranshar).
Omg! Yes! This is why I subscribe to your channel. This is so pertinent to our time in history. I can’t recommend any books on this subject, but I would argue that it’s not specifically Gnosticism but rather the anti-materialist/anti-realist perspective. In philosophy there three world views, broadly speaking. The supernaturalist, the naturalist, and the anti-materialist/anti-realist view points. I would suggest looking into those because Gnosticism fits into an anti-materialist/anti-realist world view. Perfectly fine of what you want to do is meditate in a cave and liberate yourself from the “illusion” of reality, but utterly destructive and evil when you try to “liberate” everyone else as well. EDIT: Oh, yes, please make more on this topic. I want to see a 5 hour long video about this just like the Hitler’s Socialism video.
Thanks for the vid Tik. You have completely opened my eyes to what this ideology is actually about. Rather than the dumbed down and lumped together explanations we're told by everyone else. Cheers!
Very glad you mentioned Popper's great book. He always called it his 'war work'. I'm not sure if it helped win the war, but it is certainly helps us today in understanding and fighting the resurgence in far right neo-fascist movements.
Well since he published it at the end of the war (44 or 45 i think) it cant have helped much in the fight. But it certainly helps understand it. And it is a realy good book.
Binge watching everything you’ve got TIK. I appreciate the extreme amount of effort you put in every video to connect the dots throughout history. Would love a video on the masons if you ever get a second. 🎉
I would like to see you talk more on your personal experience doing all of this research. At the beginning of the video you mentioned being under attack from all of these different ideologies. How do you keep a mental fortitude that allows you to dive into these conversations to understand them, but not be influenced or changed by them. I've always loved history but these past few years I've gone deeper than I ever have in personal studies, and I come away from it no longer with awe and wonder but with a feeling of being dirty and a sense of dread.
Please continue, your work on this topic and the research you do is unprecedented, unparalleled. We are all so much more having watched this content. Thank you!
Yeah, self interest needs a bit of rebranding I suppose. In the majority of cases helping others and being altruistic is actually serving your self-interest. It’s enjoyable and people tend to reciprocate.
It needs a lot of rebranding actually. Helping others is moral only if they add to your life (are a value to you) and it's immoral to help if you lose - that's a sacrifice. Losing now for a later gain isn't a sacrifice, it's an investment.
@@brane4859 that’s not how I approach it actually. For instance I do minor pc/laptop repair and upgrades for my friends and colleagues for free. You know, reinstall windows, add ram, replace the screen and so on, minor stuff. They only pay for the components. I don’t get anything, despite their objections. And I do that not because I expect them to reciprocate but because I enjoy it. Doing the thing I love doin for free is just more rewarding than getting paid for it for me.
Wow! I am a high school teacher and for years been trying to explain to my students that fascism & Marxism are 2 branches of the same ideology of hate. One is economic and one is racial, but both "require" an enemy to hate. Thank you so much for all your videos. They are teaching me so much and giving me great resources to read. The problem is how do I make this more digestible for teenage minds so they can make the connections. I don't believe I have the right to tell them what to believe, but I do want to make it easier for them to make the connections and value their own individual rights and identity over surrendering to group thought and group identity that is so fashionable with todays social media. Thank you so much! I am always looking for new ideas to let them think.
Having an enemy is universal, almost all, if not all of ideologies have it, after all an ideology must compete with other ideologies. Liberalism, too, hates any ideology that isn't liberal. If convincing is your goal, then try an appeal within liberal ethics, like saying that Marx and Engels were racists (Karl Marx, racist book is the ultimate source on that).
I weep for your students, they deserve better than lessons gotten from a RU-vid hack who thinks that philosophy=reductive pseudohistory with bigger words
I understand more and more why many of the Pegans throughout history despised Christianity. Despite the whole myths that socialists make about "Jesus was a socialist" because He said to help the poor. The Bible far too consistantly refers to things like natural rights in the same way Aristotel would as well as the importance of self improvement in the individual, because as TIK said at the start, self interest isn't total selfishness, but rather about improving the conditions of the self and that you could then help others. The Bible talks about getting close to God involving wanting to seek truth and improve yourself as well as helping others, which you can't do if you abandon the self. Not to mention the Bible being consistently against the tax collectors lol. While I love most of Rand's philosophy, I find her anti religion reasoning to be extremely weak as it strawmans are views of religion to just be blind, Platonian mysticism. When really one of the main arguments for God is borrowed from Aristotel's "unmoved mover" explanation which Aquinas also firmly believed in but used further arguments to narrow it down to God of the Bible. I and many other Christians are very much for the rationalist philosophies of Aristotel, Aquinas, Locke, all the way to the Austrians. Heck even the Austrians had a lot of roots in Christianity in their philosophy. However, I do find it sad that far too many Christians today take the Kantian mystical "blind faith" approach when the Bible even tells us to seek absolute truth. Also sadly the term "faith" has been strawmanned to death to only mean "blind faith" rather than the Biblical use of basically meaning "trust", liking trusting in God's plan and having plenty of rational reasons to believe in what we do. It's also why Libertarian in the form of Christians, other religions, and atheists can get along despite some disagreements because we all have the same goal of rationalism and seeking truth as well as the firm belief in our natural rights and upholding them.
"understand more and more why many of the Pegans throughout history despised Christianity" Cause Christians killled, enslaved and tortured Pagans (and even their own christian "brothers" like Cathars etc) to "convert" them to their own criminal , corrupt christian religion... but this is ofc what their fake bi-BEL preaches.-..hate, death, intollerance, obedience
More! Loving these videos. It perfectly nourishes my passion to understand these ideologies and religions. I want to understand to try and inform others on why and how man has fallen into the ideological abyss time and time again, and how to hopefully overcome the risk of falling into it again. Thank you TIK!
The philosophers who most influenced Hitler were Schopenhauer, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, and Paul de Lagarde. Did Hitler read Plato? Plato is not mentioned in "Hitler's Private Library" by Timothy W. Ryback. However, Plato is mentioned several times in "The Myth of the 20th Century" by Alfred Rosenberg. Rosenberg writes, for example, "Platon was essentially an aristocrat, an Olympian fighter, a formative artist, and a profound thinker. At the end of his life he wished to save his people racially by enacting a powerful constitution. None of this was Socratic; it was the last great flowering of the Hellenic spirit." So, Rosenberg might have familiarized Hitler with Platonic thought.
@@garrettramirez428 They took inspiration from Nietzsche but disliked his anti-nationalism and his proposal that Jews and Germans should mix with each other.
@@likeabird5654 Also they basically appropriated Nietzsche's idea of a cognitively and mentally elevated 'Ubermensch' to one that is determined by 'blood' as a consequence of 'race' or 'nation' in the biological sense. This happened thanks to his sister who sympathized with Hitler.
Thanks for the recommendation on the Leonard Peikoff book. If I can finish it, it will be the first book I have read in a decade. Thanks for reigniting an old hobby that I was very passionate about TIK. I am also in a position where I can begin to payback my favorite curators on Patreon. Thank you TIK. The mental stability obtained from consuming content such as yours is priceless. I've found it much more relaxing to become educated/re-educated through content like this versus playing video games or perhaps using substances/causing trouble in order to achieve the same effect. I hope your channel and content is around for ages to come. I will gladly spread the word to assist in keeping the knowledge alive and thriving. Additionally, your religion and philosophy videos are being consumed by my wife when I watch. She dislikes every RU-vid curator I follow except for yourself and Jake Broe. Take care TIK, eat healthy and sleep regularly, get some self-care time in each day, if possible, do yourself these favors, I sure every subscriber would agree with me that it is needed and no one wants to see you wear yourself down for our entertainment, leave that to athletes and pro-wrestlers.
TIK, I love how you analyze and explain things down to the level of fundamental philosophical concepts. Clarity like this, more widespread, could improve the future of the world. I hope your idea set prevails. Thank you for what you do.
Please do keep this and related topics going. Not only is you're channel incredibly informative, but the autistic amount of sources provided give me plenty to read. Thank you
This information has been around for a long time, I have been aware of some of it myself, but I couldn't articulate it the way Lindsey or yourself have. Before the internet, these topics had been squashed (like the Nazi's not being far-right), even now anyone that speaks openly about it will be attacked. So yes, more on this please - sunlight and all that.
I'm not much of a historian but the idea that St. Thomas defeated "mysticism" (by which I think you mean romantic collectivism about macro-concepts) in the West by popularizing Ayn Rand's version of Aristotle, and that Kant led a revival of "mysticism" directly against his influence, is absolutely insane
Plato, who died in 348 BC, would go on to influence nearly every philosopher in the West since, almost 2,500 years of history. In that sense, Hilter was as much inspired by Plato as Ayn Rand was inspired by Plato.
Tik we love you man, no matter how you choose to run the channel we real fans will stand next to you. Don’t let the loud negative drown out the quiet praise.
I have really enjoyed this series, more than I would have expected. Very interesting stuff. The idea that the eastern front in WWII was essentially a religious war? 🤯 Keep it up!
In 30 minutes you digged up the root cause of many of the worlds society problems. Brilliant ! If i may, i would like to see more in depth on this topic. The quality of your videos turned me into a patreon some time ago. Thank you !
It has seemed to me like you were coming to the same sorts of conclusions that Rand came to so I'm finding it excellent that you read Peikoff's book and see the truth in it!!! Hats off!!
I was always suspicious about Kant, and you proved me right. At first glance, he is very similar to David Hume but where Hume says that we are formed by the world around us as a part of it, Kant goes full crazy, throwing out empiricism and declaring the world around us isn't even real.
Read Hamann. He was contemporary of Kant and vivid criticizer of him. He's also one of the precursors to modern language philosophy exploring ideas simillar to Wittgenstein.
@@die1mayer He is doing the same mistake as Rousseau (who didn't see it as a mistake but deliberate deception), trying to rationally argue for things that aren't rational. David Hume understood that, Kant did not, he even argued with Hume over this.
I think Hegel's philosophy focuses on collective will and the moral purpose of the state, not racial purity. Hitler's racial ideas, a cornerstone of Nazism, stemmed from antisemitism, eugenics, and distorted interpretations of Darwinian theories. Nazis often co-opted philosophers like Hegel to lend credibility to their ideology, but this typically involved distorting their original ideas.
brilliant. The only caveat with Plato is that it is impossible IMO to separate what Plato thought and what he is thought to have thought by people over time. The cave analogy does ring true from many perspectives. It all depends on what you think it means.
I really appreciated this insight. I had expected TIK to bring up Plato's Republic and its similarly to nazism and other ideologies. In the Republic, there is a Narrative, also called the "noble lie" that is necessary for controlling the people. In Plato's versiin the lie was that society is divided into four groups by the kind of metal that people are made of - - gold was the ruling class, down to iron for the common laborer. This locked people into their class and ensured the elites would retain control. We have this philosophy today, just usung different narratives. But the founding fathers of America explicitly rejected Plato's ideas.
Plato's Republic was the first book I ever read all the way through when I was a kid. I've read it twice, but I don't know where my copy's gone... Anyway, if I remember correctly, isn't there only three social groups in Plato's Republic? Gold, silver and bronze? The philosopher kings, the warrior class, and the artisans? Maybe I'm misremembering.
@@TheImperatorKnight you are probably right, but I had 4 classes in my head, like India. . Seems like there would have to be a common unskilled laborer class, but maybe their status was too low to count. I am sure Plato never expected commoners to read the book, since only the elite could read then. I really appreciate how you connected fascism/nazism to Hegel. Never heard that before!
@@davidkahn3569 India had/has 4 classes/castes. The Priests/Philosophers as the first, Warriors/Soldiers/Kings as the second, Farmer/Trader/shopkeepers as the third and Labours/barbers/cobblers/engineers/builders as the fourth.
Your talks are fascinating and enlightening. As the creator of these videos, it is you who needs to determine whether or not to delve deeper into any given subject or not; however, as your discussions definitely fill in gaps and explain details in ways that are much more robust than that of most descriptions of these subjects, it would be most beneficial to hear how you fully develop these various threads in coming to a decisive conclusion, since you asked. Please keep up the excellent work you have shown in your explanations. Thank you.
TIK I just subscribed on Patreon to hopefully ease some of that burden on you. Been watching for videos for years for FREE and that doesn’t seem right so thanks for all the hard work! Much deserved
Thanks a lot again for your work. I’m finding it increasingly difficult to understand everything during the first play and have had to watch your videos again and again to fully grasp what you want to convey. I think splitting this sort of video into several parts would definitely help me digest the whole explanation and connect the dots with your former videos. Maybe this is just me but I would be interested to hear others’ views on this. Thanks again
Great video! I’m not a huge fan of Ayn Rand’s fiction, but I love her books “The Virtue of Selfishness”, “Philosophy: Who Needs It” and “Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal”. She was brilliant.
I'm reading the Virtue of Selfishness at the moment. That's the one I started with. I agree that there are flaws, but the Objectivists are not as bad as some of the more vocal critics suggest.
@@TheImperatorKnight TIK, I am sorry if you think I am impatient, but you please read the replies that I made to your comment to me a couple of hours ago? That would be great!
@@TheImperatorKnight Objectivism has certain merits but I do disagree with the Zionism and support for Israel 🇮🇱, considering how their state drips with Gnosticism too.
Hitler used to seem a raging lunatic to me. We don’t learn to fully understand him if we follow standard teaching in school or university. Your RU-vid’s fill in a gap. I also highly recommend the almost 14 hour long series ‘Europa The Last Battle’ which takes a pro German and anti allied stance. It did most for me to understand the ‘other’ side.
Thanks for the great video, it was very enlightening. I want to recommend checking out Leonard Peikoff's history of philosophy serious, especially his lectures on Kant. He also has a 2nd part where he lectured on Hegel, Schopnahauer and other more contemporary philosophers.
I agree, life is struggle, I struggle every day. If I didn't life would be boring. Hegel led a sheltered life. I imagine that when he spoke of the 'State' he had a particular ideal state in mind. He couldn't imagine what 'state' might encompass. Take advice from a professional virgin priest?
While there is some value here the Objectivist approach is way overdone. Objectivists tend to deny biology and genetics. The truth is human beings are social creatures and it is not irrational that we would care about the group we are part of.
Technically not a lot of philosophy are "something new" as most of Western philosophy is development of the basics laid down by Ancient Greeks. Not we're just copying what greeks made, no, it's just that they've laid out the most basics and asked the most important questions.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 well he's still not a singular source of everything, it's more so that he has managed to systematicize and formulate and postulate the main questions and lines of western thought. But he's as a part of history before him as philosophers after him.
@@tastethecock5203 Even that's a bit of a stretch because Plato doesn't have a unified body of work, the man's opinions changed over time and there's a major back and forth in philosophy about the supposed esoteric teaching lying within Plato's work, this is how we start getting systems like Neoplatonism which really don't have much do to with his political philosophy. Just goes to show pointing at any one guy anywhere at any time isn't the whole story ever.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 yea it is always a downstream of slowly developing ideas, people coming up with questions, answers, questions, conclusions from answers and questions, tools to explore the questions, and so on.
@@tastethecock5203 Still, pretty much all of Western philosophy can be considered either Plato, elaborations on Plato, responses to/refutations of Plato, responses to/refutations of those responses, etc. His work laid the general contours for Western philosophy for millennia, and even to this day most Western thought is broadly either Platonic, anti-Platonic, or some kind of middle position.
Your metaphor about altruism versus self-interest is disturbingly wrong and a false dichotomy. It exemplifies the proliferation of linear thinking so dominant in Western thinking to equate the masking steps on a flight with how we should relate to fellow humans. To argue that altruism should take a backseat to self-interest is a mild form of Ayn Randian Objectivism. It was only in Europe when humans began to fashion the doctrines which place more emphasis on the individual than on the group. It was the collective self-interest of the early Germans from the German Romance Era forward that helped give birth to an irrational form of insular thinking---Rabid Nationalism---and a sense of arrogance and belief in the superiority of the German people. It was in that diseased matrix of thought that the way was made clear for a Hitler to step forward and build on the self-interest of German people. Plato learned of the godly traits advocated by Judaism when he and other Greeks traveled to and from the Middle East and learned of Monotheism and the notion of community welfare----a step further from the earliest hunter-gatherer form of collective tribal assistance for enhancing the chances of survival of the group. Self-interest among early humans was seen as gauche to say the least and a dangerous liability for the community. Such self-interested persons in the tribe would be banished from the collective as a means of improving survival. None of the Religions sent by God advocated a gospel of selfishness and thinking of one's self first and foremost. Selflessness is a virtue associated with Religion, and Selfishness is the antithesis of that moral trait. Self-interest inflates the ego---a human quality Baha'u'llah finally informs humanity as being the 'Satan' referred to in the earlier Religions; 'Satan' was(is) a metaphor for the human ego; something that was cast out of heaven by God as being incompatible with spiritual virtues which alone can abide in that state of mind and existence called 'heaven'. The English writer John Milton in his 'Paradise Lost' couldn't discern the true meaning of Satan, and therefore railed against God. Thus paving the way for the eventual birth of Atheism---another trait given birth and form in Europe.
I have to disagree that "society" as a concept doesn't exist or is "spiritual". Certainly, the concept identifies intangible things, but so does the number one. Society is a concept that expresses the human relationships and behavioral patterns that form some kind of ordered whole of the individuals from which it is comprised. A definition like that doesn't deny individuality or attempt to reify a concept; it merely identifies some pattern physical things interacting so that we can make sense of the pattern itself.
Does the number one have consciousness? Because they think Society has consciousness, as it's not just a collection of individuals (or digits), but a living organism that has a mind of it's own. That's why it's spiritual in nature.
@@TheImperatorKnight I'm with you: I'd disagree with the assertion that consciousness is an attribute of society or any other such abstraction. And I agree that philosophers like Hegel can be justly accused of such a false attribution. The idealists in general (going back to Plato) adopt an ancient frame of mind (mysticism) by giving to abstractions features of the natural world. My point is that we don't have to give up on the concept of society; we merely need a better definition and it will serve us well. Great video BTW. Keep it up.
@@rebby11 hit youtube and look up the Organic Theory of the State. They really believe that the non-physical entity has priority over the flesh and blood things that actually make it up.
