From Rails to Elm and Haskell - Richard Feldman 

I saw the title and was like, "Wow, Richard Feynman was into functional programming?". But then I read it again.

I enjoy a Richard Feldman talk 😌

The Louis CK of programming. His tone and inflection is spot on.

I'd like to work with Haskell and Elm

Awesome and honest talk. Made me again excited to have a look on elm. Haskell is still on my list - even when it is just for personal study. Thanks!

He's a good public speaker

I will watch any presentation by Richard Feldman lol. What a fantastic speaker!

Awesome talk! I feel one step closer to Elm and Haskell!

One of the very few talks where you dont have to speed up the tempo

Fantastic talk.

good talk, i learned alot and i am glad that there is lots of use of pure functional in business logic and modern apps :)

"Get programming with Haskell" by Will Kurt great book for beginners.

needs more cat pics

Thanks!

React is like that giant contraption made of 1000 tubes on breaking bad that shat out one cup of coffee.

I relate a lot to the points about small experiments with interesting technologies in production. That's one of the best things about working at a small company. Corporate programming is strict... strictly awful :) Would love to have found your company 5 years ago when I was getting interested in FP, totally relate to writing FP coffeescript lol, although not with coffeescript just with JS.

I would love to work with a company that has the same philosophy!

if it walks like haskell, and it talks like haskell, and it's in production, it's elm

42:29 I yelled HOBBIT! XD

I'm curious why you changed your mind about Terraform.

so what standard library replacement is good for starting to use haskell for webdev ? ...

Does anybody know which Haskell framework they use at NoRedInk?

What is the language of the logo in red on the right to ocaml?

Pretty lucky company.

"you may not recognize all these logos" shit, I do

Really nice talk. I have a question on his comments about other programming languages resulting in random "crashes" - like what are these crashes really? Are these full application crashes? Or are these exceptions that get raised when an operation encounters an error (like talking to a database) and these result in crashing the whole application. How can someone get to a state where you get an NPE in production and you have no idea where it came from? I am most likely misunderstanding the problem but isn't defensive programming a thing? Like I would heavily sanitize my input at the boundaries of my service and check for nulls/invalid requests and process the request only when it is valid. Else it is a 400 to the client. Similarly if I am talking to a database, I will have lots of error handling; for instance if an insert operation fails may be the RDS instance I was talking to has now failed over to a new instance such that the old one is now a reader and we have a new writer. In such cases I will absolutely handle that exception and recycle my connection to connect to the new writer and try to give a successful response to the caller. May be that request will take a little longer but it is better than returning an internal failure. As much as possible, we do not bubble up internal errors to customers/callers and try to maintain high availability. All of these means expecting the worst and writing code to handle those gracefully. Of course not all such cases can be handled. But none of this is limited by the choice of programming language but by the coding principles or lack of it. Also tests, both unit tests and integrations tests should try to test not just happy cases but exceptional ones. May be Elm/Haskell just allows writing those error handling code easier? Is that built into the PostgreSQL library that he showed for instance? Would be nice to see an actual example of what kind of NPEs just went away after moving to Elm. Not sarcastic, genuinely want to know so I can also adopt some modern skills. Otherwise interesting talk and glad to see hiring has not been a challenge.

Is it a job requirement to be a ginger to be hired in No Red Ink?

As a computer science PhD student I found Haskell very easy to learn

Haskell was the first language I ever learned and I prefer writing in it more than I do any other language.

45:30 The question we're all thinking of today. Spoiler alert: the answer is not clear.

Can ELM retarget to LLVM?

Around 28:00, the presenter briefly mentions other technologies his company experimented with: Terraform, GraphQL, and Elixir. Around 43:19, he mentions other technologies: nix, kubernetes, and PostGraphile.

I would call that a very enthusiastic functional programming presentation! Made me want to work at noredink! I am based in Argentina. Here's my linkedin : www.linkedin.com/in/doradodiego/ And here's my web: diegodorado.com/en/work Hope you see this!

I don't agree with the term "pure functional language" I think it conveys the wrong idea, because it isn't really "pure", pure would mean there are no side effects and there is only functions returning values, however there are side effects, they are just organized and defined with clear referential transparent & composable semantics and code is typed so you identify what code is participating of a some side effect sequence, side effects are contained. All of this with the aim to help us reason about our code with just reading it. From Conal Elliot talks I think of it as decoupling platform implementation logic and details from business core logic, so we can express our business logic just in terms of data dependency and not database, web, disk, network dependencies, all of this mechanisms are composed through typed algorithms which is what I call monadic code that is used to contain side effects. So what name would be better? I don't know, maybe we need an acronym like SOLID to describe this type of composable, denotative, side effect isolating, value semantics, applicative programming.

If you search really good, practice first course for haskell, its may halp you: ru-vid.com/group/PLgkiApDiZ0KHacTxxunGYTLC_qG2fR-4S . But its on russian, but subtitles may help you.

Great talk. One part kind of set me back. Hiring the creator of Elm to work for you isn't a strong indicator that Elm is a good solution over what you were using. Maybe you would have been just as happy if you could have snagged the creator of Rails or React to work for you. When i got to that part of the video i was like "if Elms so great and so easy to learn, why not just sponsor the creator instead of having him work for you? Is the direction of Elm primarily driven by your company? What happens to Elm if your interest change? Do i need to try and steal the guy who created Elm from you so my company can have a good experience with Elm?"

When the crowd heard "Pure functional" + React, they LAUGHED SO HARD... Har Har Har.

I like the healthy NoRendInk developer team gender split in the picture at 3:34. Other companies just ignore about half of their potential team members.

If Louis CK were a programmer, he’d be this guy…

haskell is hell

Awesome talk! I feel one step closer to Elm and Haskell!