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From the Vault: Colt 1860 Army Revolver Thuer Conversion 

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We had no trouble persuading Brownells Gun Techs and resident firearm historians Keith Ford and Steve Ostrem to visit to Rock Island Auctions, so they could show us a Colt Model 1860 Army Thuer Conversion revolver. The Thuer Conversion turns the cap-and-ball 1860 Army into a front-loading metallic cartridge revolver. Why front-loading? Because Smith & Wesson owned the patent on the revolver cylinder with bored-through chambers. The patent's original holder, gunsmith-inventor Rollin White, offered to sell it to Colt, but they passed. Smith & Wesson did not and hence was the sole LEGAL producer of revolvers with rear-loading cylinders. Realizing its mistake, Colt tried to backtrack, and the Thuer Conversion enabled them to build a metallic cartridge revolver without violating S&W's patent.
Rock Island's Thuer Conversion 1860 Army is in superb condition and even comes with a few of the unique, tapered, centerfire cartridges. Steve demos how you load and - more interestingly - UNLOAD a Thuer Conversion revolver. Even more unusual, the gun itself served as a reloading press to reload the special cartridges! The gun was finicky to operate compared to a Smith & Wesson revolver, and every Model 1860 Thuer Conversion came with a standard cap-and-ball cylinder as backup. It was superseded by the Colt 1872 open-top rear-loading cartridge revolver, introduced soon after White's patent expired.

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10 июн 2021

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Комментарии : 32   
@stephenrick6672
@stephenrick6672 3 года назад
Never saw this before, absolutely cool. 👍👍👍👍👍!
@brairag5744
@brairag5744 2 года назад
Its one of those lovely not-often-known pieces of firearms history, and its definitely on the short-list for "Guns I'll never own, but would love to." just for the history of it.
@oregonoutback7779
@oregonoutback7779 3 года назад
Ah Oh, now we have TWO guys in blue shirts !! (reference to other video from today :) )
@wastedangelematis
@wastedangelematis 3 года назад
Sick .. .. so glad so much love is passed around from good honest craftmen hands
@Weaponized_Autism
@Weaponized_Autism 3 года назад
Just wanted to say, Im loving all the quality and content you folks have been putting out lately. Top notch and incredibly enjoyable. Thanks guys!
@AndyCigars
@AndyCigars 3 года назад
Very cool...never heard of that gun before. Great stuff as always.
@Ben_not_10
@Ben_not_10 3 года назад
The weird thing about the Roland white Patent is that had colt done what Winchester did when they were sued by Bannerman for the 1893 and 1890 pump actions, colt could’ve proved that the Roland white couldn’t have enforced a patent that had already been in existence in Europe before his
@redesert_boy8202
@redesert_boy8202 3 года назад
Very fascinating....thank you gentleman.
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 3 года назад
Thanks, love seeing old unusual firearms.
@osmoutdoors743
@osmoutdoors743 3 года назад
Gary Barnes at cartridge conversion revolvers remakes/improved the Thuer conversion very interesting concept and he does a great job at it. Until he showed me and let me handle a thuer I had know idea what they were
@johnmcdonald587
@johnmcdonald587 3 года назад
Gary also has an original Navy Thuer that he has made cases for it and shoots it.
@H.R.6688
@H.R.6688 3 года назад
That is cool, coming up with something like that back then.
@hoosierplowboy5299
@hoosierplowboy5299 3 года назад
Great historic information on all of your Vault videos...thank you!!!
@andycraddock7677
@andycraddock7677 3 года назад
I’d never even heard of this modification. Very interesting revolver. Given that the title of the presentation states it’s an 1860 model-year conversion, would I be correct in stating that this might have been one of the last Colts that Samuel Colt himself had a role in? Not necessarily this particular revolver, but in authorizing - as the “CEO” - the design and production of the firearm, before his untimely death? Fascinating history. Thank you.
@scttewegner72
@scttewegner72 3 года назад
Awesome and love these vault episodes. Thank you!
@jimmyruger7529
@jimmyruger7529 3 года назад
thank you
@jfbft5007
@jfbft5007 Год назад
There was a time when Uberti has made one, i think in the 70"/80" year's but it is not available today...
@mnrodriguez
@mnrodriguez 3 года назад
Really cool!
@DailyDrivenBikes_1
@DailyDrivenBikes_1 3 года назад
The cartridges are like the front loading rifles with the ice cream cone cartridges.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 2 года назад
Would love to have one of those conversion cylinders for my Uberti. Lol.
@ronrobertson59
@ronrobertson59 3 месяца назад
I saw one of these as a cased sets at the log cabin Gunshop in lodi Ohio in the late 70's. I always wanted one a guy in Germany reproduces them out of Italian percussion revolvers but they are expensive and I'm not sure how you'd import it.
@andyd2960
@andyd2960 3 года назад
I was familiar with the rifles that load in a similar way, but I never heard of pistols like this.
@bosse641
@bosse641 3 года назад
Cool.
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 3 года назад
Funniest part is, s&w had the market sewed up, and only made tinker toy tip ups the whole time the patent was in force.
@3ducs
@3ducs 3 года назад
Interesting walls in that room, looks like wood salvaged from pallets.
@futuresonex
@futuresonex 2 года назад
I've never really understood how those worked until now.
@mallanac
@mallanac 3 года назад
Can you find a Remington New Model Army in 46 Rimfire conversion?
@josephharris5346
@josephharris5346 2 года назад
Brownells products purchased from Optics Planet have no warranty
@alswann2702
@alswann2702 3 года назад
Remington paid Smith to license the patent and beat Colt and Smith to market with the first cartridge revolvers. Very interesting pistol nonetheless. It's so over engineered I'd have swore it was German!
@mp6163
@mp6163 3 года назад
Second
@TexasHellcat1836
@TexasHellcat1836 3 года назад
Third
@bruceruzicka6089
@bruceruzicka6089 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, I don't trust all that newfangled metallic cartridge guff. It is unproven. Cartridge firearms are just a passing fad. Give me my percussion 1851 Navy any day. Now that is proven technology.
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