From Zero To Hero (Begleitpanzer 57)

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The Begleitpanzer 57 is a German infantry fighting vehicle that sits at a battle rating of 9.3. I've always said that the Begleit, affectionately referred to as the bagel panzer by some, was extremely underrated. The Begleit received a massive buff a few months back, giving it a dual axis stabilizer, doubling the ready rack size, and increasing turret traverse speed. The Begleit can now comfortably shred pretty much anything it comes across. I do find it highly amusing that Gaijin didn't preemptively raise its BR when that change was made.
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@Spookston Год назад

After recording this video I got a new keyboard with much quieter keys, so hopefully it won't be as noticeable in future videos.

@north_hellcat5366 Год назад

I didn't hear anything

@BorisstalmN Год назад

Could u play the m247

@JS2000A Год назад

you're good. I just assumed it was inside my head

@WolfeSaber9933 Год назад

Any thoughts on the German concept tank, the KF-51 panther tank?

@MaineDoesYT Год назад

Me like click clack lol. Have a corsair k100 myself. Love the integrated stream deck keys. Nice for soundboard

@Turk3YbAstEr Год назад

volumetric shells are a good idea (sort of) implemented very poorly by a company that isn't particularly motivated to fix things

@sodamanfromsodaland1548 Год назад

Panther side skirt go brrrrrr.

@Satanperkele Год назад

As long as KA-50/A-10 sales don't suffer, nothing will motivate them. "Implemented very poorly" seems to be the company motto

@marcogenovesi8570 Год назад

That description applies to the game as a whole, not just volshells

@archanabisen5592 Год назад

Don't forget, the un detonateable ammo racks on certain Swedish and Israeli tanks.

@Progress_or_Barbarism Год назад

Fixing issues? No, selling $60 camo net Leo.

@TheAmazingCowpig Год назад

If people didn't think the Begleit was ever good, they weren't playing against Germany in 2020. While it wasn't the main thing that made fighting them terrible, it definitely didn't help. I can't fathom how a 57mm autocannon could have ever been "bad", especially when it's dual-purpose anti-ground and anti-air, and VERY good at anti-air for not being dedicated anti-air. also spooks play ontos pls

@derrickstorm6976 Год назад

Ontos vedge ugli

@Anarcho-harambeism Год назад

Ontos, yeeesss

@ZETH_27 Год назад

Well, the 57 in the Begleit was taken from a Swedish *warship* so it was expected to be mounted on a rocky hull that would have to deal with both and sea targets at varying ranges.

@jaxrammus9165 Год назад

bro its a better AA than the gepoard by MILES

@batlegod Год назад

i Played before the Buff and then i didn even have a problem wiht it but now it is even better

@MythicPi Год назад

Fun fact about the Begleitpanzer, its still missing a few things, chief among them is an APFSDS round, which was developped for it, but online documentation for it hasnt been found, and BEA systems which was contacted about the subject did say it existed but would not release info on it unfortunately. Theres a document in a library/archive in Germany about thr beglditpanzers ammunition iirc, but it hasnt been digitized and seemingly nobody that cares about the begleit and plays WT lives near enough to it to go and check.

@dontkev3001 Год назад

And a other issues with the data from the APFSDS is, it's still classified

@bisky9105 Год назад

Also the helicopter warning system Imo it would have an even bigger inpact on how it plays. Don't think the apfsds will change much in what it can pen frontally and what it can’t

@GUIZAR-kr2cj Год назад

@@bisky9105 it would go from not being able to pen the drivers port of a T72 to being able to pen the drivers port a BVM. It would be similar to the VCC 80/60 but instead of a 2 second reload it would be 0.3.

@bisky9105 Год назад

@@GUIZAR-kr2cj how much do we actually know about the apfsds shell? Yeah basically nothing. It could make the difference, but at the same time it could also not make the difference

@GUIZAR-kr2cj Год назад

@@bisky9105 Yea we know nothing but using the 60mm as a base (Around 220) and the 40mm on the cv90(around 170). It will have likely around 200mm. Could be completely wrong because velocity, projectile mass and shell composition can effect shell penetration. But the T72 drivers hatch can already be penetrated by 30 APFSDS and the 60mm can penetrate the T80s drivers hatch so its up for debate.

@sushiman3817 Год назад

The bagel panzer is one of those tanks that is good at literally any battle rating you put it at, but still just as vulnerable at and br. It's pros are useful no matter the situation and it's cons can be exploited by even reserve level tanks at times because of how thin the armor is.

@thechickenmaster6543 Год назад

That's the same for the bmp2m tho. Almost all light tanks/ifvs even

@desertfalcon1539 Год назад

@@thechickenmaster6543 "all light tanks" I can confirm, as a Japan top tier ground player that the Type 16 MCV works pretty well while being a 9.0 vehicle It has just the right amount of pen to go through conventional tank weakspots (except maybe the Leo 2A6), it's 2nd gen thermals for the gunner and commander do wonders too and it has quite a good mobility. The only downside I see in the MCV is it's transmission which has only 5 forward gears

@thechickenmaster6543 Год назад

@@desertfalcon1539 bro this was about how thin the armour is. Type 16 can be penned by a bt5

@BasedMan Год назад

Feels like my puma conscripted to play in my 6.7 lineup alongside my Panther 2, Coelian, Jagdpanther and Tiger 2 H. Quite nothing like finding a T34 (USA) on an small, fast but fragile 50mm car (I shit myself)

@honeybadgerbomb4469 2 месяца назад

@@thechickenmaster6543 Almost... almost all... *stares at VBCI-2*

@bighobo7745 Год назад

Begleit did go up to 8.7 when the buffs were added on live but got upped to 9.0 and then 9.3 in a few weeks.

@conebear9291 Год назад

still quite low.

@beakwooda.k.aadregallus8788 Год назад

@@conebear9291 HA, joke.

@123123boobies Год назад

It still should be 9.7 or 10.0.

@Satanperkele Год назад

Extra few weeks of people to go apeshit & throw GE's at it, business as usual with Gaijin.

@eikbolha5883 Год назад

@@123123boobies no just no its not that good cuz its should be like this from beggening when was added its not reallly buffed wehicle all it has should has for years now this dont belonf to 9.7 or higher fucking puma ifvis at 9.3 and that thing i better.

@eyyze Год назад

It went up in BRs before it even received those buffs. Also engine and ready-rack buffs happened before stabiliser and gun-handling, like, 2 patches before.

@daxlucero2437 Год назад

He hasn’t played it in a long while. Maybe didn’t notice?

@carsonlau9326 Год назад

Yea, it was 8.3 initially, was put to 8.7 with the buffs, then 9.3 along with PUMA in the same BR change

@MrSnow0808 Год назад

I remember playing the Begleit for the first time and being amazed by it’s performance. It was slow, big (I remember it being much bigger than it is now, or they changed the perspective), and there weren’T any animations for the tow. The fire rate was also the same as 40 mm bofors. The benefit, though, was that it had an autoloader with 120mm of pen with APHE. Nothing special when compared to the ZSU, but it has a TOW missile launcher. This was a fantastic vehicle already and I loved it so much. Now it’s still a good one shorting machine with improvements all around.

@kevinb2 Год назад

Your missile at 1:12 got shot by the MG of the enemy. It just didn't explode for some reason

@whatsthematter8767 Год назад

gaijin spaghetti code lmao

@flamepanzer1767 Год назад

No... It didn't even get exploded lol it just disappeared due to shit servers

@ComradeLenin1917 Год назад

It just noclipped into the backrooms

@Thefluxtion Год назад

i mean he has lost his connection to the server at that point, you have no idea where he is actually aiming where he is, or where he is looking or what is going on, so its fair to say, that missile could be going to space with how well their servers are doing

@liviuganea4108 Год назад

@@whatsthematter8767 Stop with the fucking spaghetti code. You have not seen their source code. You're not even a programmer.

@Lillspratt Год назад

Acording to swedish testing, the 57mm bofors had so little differens to the 40mm bofors in Pen, that swedish designers thought it wasnt wourth to use cuz u couldnt carry as much ammo with the 57mm as u could with the 40mm. In game u can kill everything with the STRF 9040C from front, and the BILL version has top attack missiles, so i think the Strfs are pretty good. They should ad the MK 4 Strfs.

@4el0_vek Год назад

Begleit is pretty much equal to BILL 2 and better in some instances (I wrote here a comment about that) so either begleit should go up to 10.0 or Strf 9040s should go down to 9.3-9.7

@cullenkelley4828 Год назад

So I really enjoy the Swedish 40mm but saying the kill easily from the front is just false. It "can" but it does so little module damage reliably that your either A expending most of the ready rack or B you don't remove weapons capability fast enough and are killed. Really annoying as before volumetric it was a little better but still terrible. 40mm APFSDS needs a damage model buff and holy fuck REMOVE THE DELAY for replenishing the ready rack holy fuck. I'd kiss whoever makes the ready rack change.

@rpscorp9457 Год назад

This comment encapsulates stupidity. I have all the swedish IFVs and without a doubt(3200 hours) they all suck at the BR they are currently at. ALL of them.

@Yorvast Год назад

2:45 You don't understand Spookston, that was mistake of the pilot. That pilot should know to fly even lower, low enough so you couldn't even see him. For the best effect he should fly underwater! Ah yes, why didn't Pierre and his buddies thought of that!

@bisky9105 Год назад

Joke aside It is the fault of the pilot. Should have used his mavericks from distance and not went in for a gun run

@admiral_gravleos8 Год назад

Yeah, imagine even being able to get into position when there's Missile Spaa and with no way to counter it at all in the A-10.

@kidsinafrica3080 Год назад

@@admiral_gravleos8 i mean A-10 got countermeasures so you can dodge missile spaa, way easier with a-10 than with helis.

@guvyygvuhh298 Год назад

The Bagel panzer was and still is one of my favourite tanks ever. It actually sits right after T-80B

@bpop2148 Год назад

Haha love the “I hear a helicopter somewhere…” followed directly with a helicopter being shot down. Edit: 1:49 And 6:05

@lv100magikarp4 5 месяцев назад

Back in the times where ATGMs such as the TOW weren't almost useless as they're now

@BufusTurbo92 Год назад

"pierre sprey is rolling in his grave" GOOD.

@DJBlackhood91 Год назад

I'm getting closer to the Beglietpanzer 57 and by the looks of it, I think it will be my favorite scout vehicle.

@oblivion8499 Год назад

haha funny bagel tank

@TrojanHell Год назад

Ever since the Wirbelwind with HVAP-T Ive had a huge love and respect for rapid fire medium calibre cannons and their ability to fuck up tanks from the side. Nothing as funny then being an AA gun (and oversized at it with the Wirbel) and mowing down 4+ tanks in a row before they even realise u are there

@zauniblanke1588 Год назад

That's why I love the Gepard. Got me a Nuke today. And those 40 shells of armor piercing are enough for 4 heavy tanks if the player is careful

@kousand9917 Год назад

Wirbelwind is OP at its BR

@devil5cry Год назад

And ATGM ,as always,optional LMAO

@meepy546 Год назад

wirbel isnt that good anymore since the pen got brought down to 48mm on Pzgr 40

@devil5cry Год назад

@@meepy546 It used to pen IS-2 with It No shit dude

@calum1277 Год назад

Love your videos!

@wills9482 7 месяцев назад

It's fun to see one of my favorite vehicles used so effectively! I would have to say my favorite feature is the anti air rounds, I love being able to deny air force with just a button press and a few clicks.

@dodobird679 Год назад

5:17 I thought that the german teammates meme was an exaggeration. At this point it's an understatement

@miner_a2 Год назад

The begleit used to be my favourite german light tank before the buffs and the main issue i had was the old ammo system it used alongside the lack of stabilizer, both of which got "fixed". Nowadays its basically the perfect flanking vehicle

@Birb_of_Judge Год назад

Why can't my enemies never be this delirious?

@LtCmdrTyler Год назад

In my experience, German teams at any BR is like playing the lottery. They are either absolute trash, die once and leave the game OR they are god tier and are spawn camping the enemy team before you know it. There is no in between.

@TheLostDefender Год назад

I agree

@CrazyDutchguys Год назад

"We had 5 heavy tanks in that cap, how did they all die to a single player?!" OR "Ive not seen a single enemy this game and we're in their spawn now"

@proofostrich9061 Год назад

Actual facts. They either die once and leave or go 11-0 with a Tiger 2P at a full uptier

@gugas3013 Год назад

Loving the C&C background music

@lukyshaq41 Год назад

everyone talkin about WarThunder I just love the fact that you use the cnc generals soundtrack as background song

@aurabanda6144 Год назад

Hey Spookston! I really like your videos and have been watching for almost a year now and I wanted to say great job and keep it up! Maybe for a future video play the STRV 122B PLSS and its new round and see if it was worth grind compared to other tech trees. Thanks!

@efsthecrazy Год назад

It'd be interesting to see your take on the Type 90, especially considering how much it is overshadowed by the Type 10. Personally I see it as being almost as good, mainly due to the larger ready rack and (atm) better handling in terms of mobility.

@CallofDutyBlackOps28 Год назад

I've always been a fan of this tank when i first saw it in Armored Warfare. it's got pretty much everything a starterpack tank would need. angled armor fairly well; has a nice gun, nice speed, and has a recoilless rocket.

@liamhayes23 Год назад

I always enjoy the shitposts at the beginning of the videos

@TheJessecarpenter Год назад

Just with the HSTV-L would get the VT shell

@CssHDmonster Год назад

based on the title, i expected u to spawn in like a 1.0 br vehicle at start and slowly move up to the bagel

@arthurdent4791 2 месяца назад

I wanna see spook do this

@ohiostatebuckeye9748 Год назад

I really do like how you use Zero hour music in your vids.

@IkeanCrusader1013 Год назад

3rd favorite tracked IFV behind the BMP-3M and Warrior

@CDLC7 Год назад

French SA50 Sherman would be cool to play

@valian8985 Год назад

It was nerfed to ground unfortuntly...

@MrSnow0808 Год назад

SAP in this vehicle is very effective against light vehicles like SPAA and IFVs from the side. Hit them basically anywhere and it’s a one shot. It pens and detonates inside the tank with good reliability.

@JamesErath Год назад

For your consideration: the Aufklärungspanzer 38(t) Sd.Kfz. 140/1

@Strigon_Actual Год назад

I'd like to see you play some of the 75mm-armed Pz.IVs at 3.3-3.7 so I can learn better how to play them!

@melvinjohansson8006 Год назад

Command and conquer music makes the video so immersive

@thesoulfury4591 Год назад

I love the bagelpanzer

@aureliencostabeber8532 Год назад

Now that it's at 9.3 , i think it deserve à better atgm like a TOW-2

@bickboose9364 Год назад

4:38 ah, the good ole' cannon-acting-as-impenetrable-armor. _It's one of my faves_

@riah6918 Год назад

"There is just so much Russian IFV spam" -Unknown Ukrainian soldier during Russo-Ukraine war (2022)

@TR33ZY_CRTM Год назад

Also Unknown Ukrainian Soldier: *Laughs in St. Javelin*

@JordanHB77 Год назад

Would you consider doing a video on the T95E1? I've been playing it a lot lately and I'm curious about it's history and development, as well as I'm curious to see if the cannon was historically as inaccurate as it is in game.

@vfranceschini Год назад

I love this thing in WT xD the anti-everything ifv

@nixoproto7545 Год назад

Seeing the Do series of fighter/bomber would be nice to see(if you ever bother with a plane) maybe an AMX would be interesting

@ncggaming9821 Год назад

playing this is like having an lmg/assault rifle while everyone has a pistol.

@cmurderfrumpbottoniv8647 Год назад

When this thing was 8.3 it was assinine and gobs of fun. Hell even now its great

@proofostrich9061 Год назад

The APHE round used to turn the LMB into an instant delete button lol.

@J.C136 Год назад

oh i remember playing the bagel back in the day. the ammo used to be treated as separate magazines if i remember properly?

@Aloso930 Год назад

That meme ha so many possibilities and it’s hilarious

@pAceMakerTM Год назад

I have been getting a lot more ghost projectiles lately... 60 rounds from my AA did not impact from 10ft today....

@The_Fubar Год назад

2:46 [winks in lazerpig]

@jester3633 Год назад

I dont see too many videos on the challenger 2s, so the black night could be cool to see 👀

@user-cd4bx6uq1y Год назад

So it`s like coming from above before the other person can react in a top down game but in a tank game

@thomasprice2457 Год назад

Grinding to the bagel has begun hahaha

@Momomaster25 Год назад

Gotta love how gaijin gives the BMP-2M APFSDS ammo when all it really needed was to go up to 10.0+, while the BMP-3 and BMD-4 actually could use that ammo buff at 9.0 where they work best.

@fox_evo3267 10 месяцев назад

I like how he says ''oh I cant pen it whatever it is'' then instantly fires a rocket at it :)

@killroy1117 Год назад

Volumetric would be a cool feature to have if it actually functioned right.

@cougarstable73 Год назад

Excellent vid, Spookston! Could you please play the T114 next?

@anothertom22 Месяц назад

one of the most unsatisfying things in war thunder is hitting a barrel and it doing nothing, and watching heat rounds and atgms bounce

@DatInnocentGuy Год назад

i'd love to see you try out the radkampfwagen 90

@R3aper9048 Год назад

I think it's funny that in terms of war thunder the only few vehicles that fit that beginning meme are a light tank with 0 armor, a stupidly funny SPAA that can barely do the AA, wirbeldew, and some others I forgot. None of which are frontline MBTs yet outperform said MBTs tenfold at a usually lower BR.

@MinhNguyen-br3ij Год назад

can you please play the French AMX 50 Surbaisse ? pretty fun but difficult tank at 7.7 imo

@StealthySpace7 Год назад

2:45 loved this

@kulwiederbach9993 Год назад

The begleit is awesome you even have good hulldown capabilities. Because only the commander sits in the turret.

@C0dingschmuser Год назад

Fun Fact: Begleitpanzer is German for Companion Tank

@VarenvelDarakus Год назад

UwU w..what are you doing s..step Companion Tank

@r0und603 Год назад

This tank is the bane of my existence

@Ryuko-T72 Год назад

"The proxy is very good on this. Pierre Spray is rolling in his grave right now" I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE

@Commander_Koyke Год назад

Please explain

@explodingonc2782 Год назад

I still miss its APHE ammo. Reliable 2 shot kill can really make sure that enemy has no chance of shooting back

@justmymage Год назад

Could you play the Marder A1? I think its a REALLY strong IFV, the gun works basically as an AA against helis/planes, has MILAN's so AT work is fine as well and it has scouting so you can get into a plane decently quickly if the game blesses you with the right enemies.

@Marshmallow603 7 месяцев назад

Thumbnail:BEGLEIT My brain: bego fit

@freedomfighter2054 3 месяца назад

A bagelpanzer!

@MarkStillPlays Год назад

fun fact: begleit means accompany for example on your trip

@D_F_A Год назад

I got this when it first came out. It was good but not great so I stopped playing it. It then continually increased in BR and now it seems to be ideally suited to the game. The latest buffs helped also.

@lurpakshakur2230 Год назад

Bagel love only!

@Wolf-kr3mj Год назад

I like he uses the term “fire from the hip” in an IFV lol

@BrockvsTV Год назад

The musics got me feeling it. Could you play the scorpion? Maybe kizingo boulevard?

@tinh3352 Год назад

the begleit is the incarnation of all my cumulated revenge against CAS for grinding germany when USA CAS was at its peak and reaching 8.7 as soon as the A-4E buff got added

@Macovic 6 месяцев назад

There was a scrapped plan of 57 mm Bofors autocannon om the cv 90. Hope they develop one…

@sillylittleowlguy2392 Год назад

M/42 DT. I won't stop asking for it.

@artichokedip5.972 Год назад

I’d like to see a video on the Sherman Firefly it’s got some need of attention

@4el0_vek Год назад

Comparing Begleit with Strf 9040s: It literally has twice ready rack size, twice faster replenishment of ready rack, 6 I-TOWs, better mobility, almost the same pen with better spall damage (because 57mm ap rounds and not the 40mm apfsds), better gun elevation and turret traverse, but still 9.3 when strf 9040c is 10.0 as well as Lvkv 9040 and BILL 2 (okay, Lvkv has radar, but still it’s elevation is quite poor for aa vehicle, and BILL 2 has better top-down atgm than TOW-2B, but has no armor and top apfsds round, Strf 9040c has the additional armor, but it’s only slows him down, it doesn’t add anything in terms of protection)

@anchoviebear Год назад

I feel like I need to take a shower after watching this.

@snazzydazzy Год назад

In response to this vehicle, now play the Type 89! It was the most 'op' ifv before all the nerfs and the BMP-2M!

@Martel_Clips Год назад

that thing was slightly overpowered and got hit with the nerf bat so hard while not loosing any repair cost it's very wtf

@EPE77U Год назад

@@Martel_Clips Wish they just reverted the nerfs and moved it up to 9.3

@devil5cry Год назад

Well at least don't need grind through the APDS ammo now Literally pain itself

@TheReidmeister96 Год назад

Has Spookston played the Merkava? I love the look of the tank bit havent played it, I'm still at Tier 2 & 4

@FeatherWing162 Год назад

I can see how it's a good vehicle, but I personally despise fighting against it. Just its gun alone can kill my entire 8.7 lineup from all sides, not to mention it's an auto-cannon with proximity rounds.

@Fiddleshtick Год назад

Bagelpanzer, yummy. I always get appetite for Bagels when I see that thing

@CL_CORTES Год назад

I want this vehicle....... soooo much.

@YourGodStalin Год назад

You should try the black hole that is US 6.3 pain, aka the T25 and 76mm Jumbo.

@superknightlol Год назад

this thing would be great with apfsds but the round is currently classified

@edxcal84 Год назад

I'd love to see you play the 76mm Jumbo. I too am a light tank player, but that bad boy is so wonderful, even at 6.3 (I still think it should be 6.0). I got back into playing it recently and in two days I got three different games with 13-14 kills, in combination with my CAS aircraft of course.

@Callsign_Merkava Год назад

Honstly the 76mm jumbo is a 5.7

@edxcal84 Год назад

@@Callsign_Merkava can't say I agree, with its armor and stabilizer, it's pretty damn good.

@theoneandonlyartyom Год назад

honestly the tiger is 1.3

@wafflewhale9354 10 месяцев назад

bagel panzer

@thebeastmk2 Год назад

Do you have a twitch would love to watch more of your gameplay, being learning a lot from your odd bits in your vids

@novusregnum Год назад

You should play the Type 89. I don't think I've seen you play it in one of these video styles yet. Or the Type 87 RCV (again)

@hamaru7642 Год назад

I could imagine that the Begleitpanzer would be the most balanced at 7.0ish, since tanks at that BR tend to have better side armour. It still has killing power because of the ATGMs but the cannon would be less effective.

@abercrombieblovs2042 Год назад

I would like to see you try and deal with the Pz IV J, arguably the worst of the Pz IV series but still workable. It would also give you a chance to voice your thoughts on the downtiers of both the J and H models.

@harrisonhonda3745 7 месяцев назад

There’s a new bug with starstreak, the round phases thru the belly of planes to the other side, no matter the speed, even on the test ground

@wartheunderbro Месяц назад

And there’s the 2s38 too which is basically a direct upgrade

@jaxrammus9165 Год назад

just got my bageleit and im still trying to get used to its playstyle, i find i just die instantly as i try to go for barrels

@filipszmyd390 Год назад

Can we expect the video on VBC PT2 in italian tech tree? I recently got it and i have so much fun, you should try it. Wanna know what do you think about it.