Front Mission 3 Remake Looks Dissapointing & Here's WHY 

I played these games at the same years I don't know if you remember monster rancher 2 form ps1, like fm3 the characters were just small face pictures that blink and move lips a bit, really nice arts but the same basic, mr 3 at ps2 did a great evoluiton looks like a real time anime character, just the head but outside a frame hud, the game itself was worst than ps1 version and mr4 give a better upgrade at graphics but forget the art, I had the same bad feeling when saw new fm3re! But a miracle is impossible all square money is for ff7re, neither ff16 had a close care and love!

Felt the love. Can you please make a list on which Front mission game to start with.

I 100% agree with the attacks lacking weight, it was the first thing I noticed. FM3 was the peak when it came to how devastating the attacks looked though later games did water it down even my fav in the series FM5 didn't have as meaty attacks as FM3, though they did do a decent job. I recently did a play through of FM 1,3,4 AND 5 on emulators and I missed those brutal shots with the SMG and shotgun. This remake takes the piss though. I feared when the devs eventually got to FM3 they wouldn't do the combat justice and I was right unfortunately.

@@SEVENTHSIGHN I remember last play at epsxe fm3 after a rofupIII with mg the emulator sound broke, had played five games before by months but in fm3 was heavy! like the video said the impact the heavy is all missing.

i really love the game, played FM3 thousands of hours in total and i agree with you on the video.. also the attack animation are so clunky, awkward 😂😂 and the gun SFX kinda off to me.. the 3D model, eughh no way...

remember when you had angry for somethings that front mission 5 skiped from fm3, like eject and better simulator skill learning... now things turns nooooooooooooooo!

​@overdalcy Remember when you English was grammaring in the correct but now jumbled mess becomes on it nooooo!

@@jonathanj.3695 ahah sorry I'm from brazil, but is this I remember moments of missing fm3 details missing on 5 like eject, how some enemies looks dumb stupid waiting to die cause they don't surrender, and now new fm3 need basic things from fm5 ahah!

so glad i got the fansub of it, fm5 is really good

It really doesn’t

omfg, that made me spill my drink xD

That's literally what it feels like. Completely lost the sense of weight.

They made a sequel??

absolutely 100 percent.

for sure, agreed.

hey a lot of switch game much better than that

I would preffer a real quick cash by they just send the original game to psn store, this upgrade still burn lots of money to be done waiting too much sales!

Laziness and incompetency. The developers clearly didn't care about this project and just quickly pushed it out the door with the attitude of ehh..the fans will still buy it regardless why put in the extra effort to make this quality.

I won't buy it unless they fix it.

Just laziness. All three of these "remakes" (they're not remakes) were outsourced to an independent studio to keep costs down and this is the sad result.

Plus the camera angles. They were incredibly dynamic in the orginal, changing based on attacks and what's galleon, zooming in and out and shaking with hits.

100% this. personally I've seen this stuff over & over. but there's usually not enough noise about this stuff, getting up & atleast talking about it might shift the tide eventually. I hope atleast. :/

They deleted the old trailer, thinking that all the bad comments were from Russians, because we have a lot of fans in this game, they posted a new trailer with music and blocked viewing for Russians, but still they received criticism and negative comments, I really hope that SE will understand these disadvantages and they will do something: expand the budget, delay the release of the game and do something to make the remake worthy of the original

In fact, there was no excuse not to use the High Quality Original Soundtrack. Those Discs Sound Good but they were compressed for the PSone Version. They could have used it as a base or at least if they follow the theme of the 1st and 2nd ones, they would have given us the option to use the Original version. However, I swear on my life that I will create Mods both Graphically and to Restore the original OST when the Video Game comes out.

​@@snakeghost3469 Greeeaat, now Zaftra will get pissy for being blocked and attack us loooong before being renamed Zaftra...

​@@EstebanChannel227Find a way to sneak it into Switch and we will all be living happily ever after. Like ALL the fixes.

ohhhhh you mean front mission Vietnam I like that one, can't wait for it to release

yee im very excited for kriegsfront! defo will review it once its fully out.

Same sentiments. I had low expectations for FM3 remake even just after FM1 remake disappointment. The only way to get proper remakes or remasters of these gems is that if Square would actually put the funds and effort to make it themselves as they would probably involve some of the original staff from the original games much like they did to Live A Live Remake.

@@jazztheartist You're absolutely right, they source out projects because they are too lazy to rehash hits they've already made. *That is the equivalent of a classic rock band from the 1970's hiring out a cover-band comprised of novice musicians (who've probably never heard their tracks) to do a tour for them.* Most (or at least some) of the Frontmission team bounced out and went to work at Fromsoft in time for Armored Core V. But I'm not sure if they're still there or what they're up to now. I think Square-Enix's big problem is that they _just aren't_ Squaresoft or Enix anymore- that's why IPs like Frontmission got the disgraceful treatment they did in the first place. I mean, I know that FM1, Gunhazzard and FM2 never came stateside but FM3 and FM4 did. Only for FM5 to get the treatment the old games did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ For me, FM4 and FM5 were nowhere near as good as FM3, they ditched peak mechanics like pilot damage, pilot eject/stealing wanzers... FM3 had us going all over the world and engaging in a huge global wacky time. I know a point of contention for FM fans is that FM3's cast was really tropey and so on, but that really never bothered me- at least they weren't flat characters. Anyway, to do a full whiplash, FM3 is also my favorite game so I'm sure I'll buy the remake regardless of how it ends up and I'll do it, partly, just to send a message to this Squeenix company, and a bit of the reason is because I can play Frontmission 3 on my PS5 even though emulating the original FM3 on my Miyoo Mini or Retroid Pocket 4 Pro is going to bbe the better experience. *P.S.* *Concerning the OST of FM3* : If you, or anyone else, has not heard of the RU-vid Channel: Whats His Name, you owe it to yourself to checkout his impeccable rendition of the *entire* FM3 soundtrack. Wow. Just look up his Frontmission 3 OST rendition; it's fantastic! *edit* : I'll just include a link to his work - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5jDotT1Egww.htmlsi=U8e3OGvFSxZKDvMV . I have a physical copy CD of the FM3 soundtrack, the company died, because their warehouse burned down. Which makes the album hard to come by- I hope that the remake can do as well as What's His Name has done, they should've just gave him some money to use his labor of love! A shoutout to the member of the fan translator team, Wiegra9009, has some really good let's plays and background information on Frontmission content on his channel as well as an amazing Final Fantasy Tactics : Rebirth mod let's play on his channel: www.youtube.com/@wiegraf9009/playlists Dog Life, Dog Style!

​@@lVl_A_L_B_O_R_O True. FM3 was the pinnacle of the series and the only thing it would've needed is a proper overhaul of the visuals in today's standards but we got a downgrade instead. Its just sad to think about that Square wont even give it a proper treatment because it's not a flagship title and they'd just outsource it to others instead. About the covers by What's his name, I stumbled upon it a few years ago and I acknowledge the passion and effort he put into it. I don't want to sound rude and I'm sorry in advance for it but I really don't like his covers, they sound midi-like. Sustained notes are shortened, and I really don't like his choice of instrumentations on the songs and they sounded like music on TV commercials because of that. I mean no disrespect to him and his dedication is extremely admirable but the cinematic factor is just absent in his covers. The thing about FM3's original soundtrack is it already sounds organic from the get go despite it being digital. It had the perfect reverb amount. I think the only way it could work for rearrangements is to replace the emulated real instruments with actual real instruments like the strings, brass, windpipes and pianos whilst retaining the genuine digital instruments and drums as is. It would've helped if they actually involve Hayato Matsuo and Koji Hayama in these remakes. They would've known what to do with the music. I wish they'd re-release it under square enix music label like Chrono Cross and Trigger OST. Also, yeah, I'm thinking of getting it as well whatever the outcome might be ( I hate myself). I think the only way to get a better product is for fans to collectively ask, beg or perhaps demand even just a remaster or port of these gems from Squeenix. lmao.

Old blonde bearded guy with a rocket launcher? Uh...there's no party member who fits that description in the game. Even if you mean Marcus (who I think might be blonde), he's a melee user, so...not somebody you'd be sticking a Missile or Grenade Launcher on. Actually, I don't even think he has a beard.

@@SpanishFly120 You may be right. Maybe I'm thinking about FM4 when it comes to him. Maybe Zead Elger. It may be Marcus and I Equip one of them with rockets. It's been 25 years so I mainly remember feelings about these game, not specifics. Probably time for another playthrough.

yeah at the moment it's kind of a disgrace :/ I really hope us yelling at them will make em take more time & actually make it better. but who knows huh?

me too, IDK how you can fck up the sound effects too xD . I was going to talk about it & then forgot completely

This is superb justification and insight. Checklist checks out. The only thing left to do is perhaps submit this to Square Enix so that they'd actually do the remakes themselves. Because I have no hope for Forever Entertainment that they'd be able to apply these until release. Unless they concede to these criticisms, delay the release and actually put in the effort to fix all of that. Let alone add the suggested new features.

The cutscenes look great. All they need to do is copy the original with upscaled and more detailed 3D and I'll be happy. Changing the battle animations to whatever the hell that is though... yeesh.

trueeee

Play the original FM3. It is really awesome. It has two full stories.. the branch is right at the beginning of the game. Within each one there are several different characters you can get so you even have a bit of a reason (beyond it just being fun) to replay a branch you've already played. All that in upgraded graphics with original animations or at least modern versions of those animations would be so cool. This...... I hope they work on this some more...

After the remakes by Forever Entertainment, I forgaveLeft Alive even though it was a disaster of a game because it actually had a bit of effort. This one is just straight disrespect and blasphemy

That's funny. Hey maybe they'll see it but who knows. Trying to critique stuff like this before the game is made is also a challenge, in cases like this especially where I'm trying to see the perspective of OG and potential new fans of the series.

nah, , you move on a square grid, some maps are huge tho & you get plenty of freedom on how to move. there's also sections in the game where you get the choose where to go which leads to different outcomes which is cool. hope they redo the animations aswell :/ its kinda the Bread of the game.

I once played the whole game with my whole squad having snipers. That's an absolute nightmare as the Miss chances are incredible man 😭

yeah man, I absolutely love this game.

Funny thing is this remake isn't developed by Square but some polish guys called Forever Entertainment which is notoriously infamous for making bad remakes. Squeenix themselves would just remaster it altogether by adding a fresh coat of paint but retaining the UI and gameplay much like Saga and Chrono Cross remasters or putting effort and money by Remaking it altogether like Live A Live or Trials of Mana. It's just between those two. This remake is just blasphemy and downgrade to from the original

That's very fair.

i almost wanna blame because they want to release it on the switch. that thing is weaker than today's phones :/

It's tough. If you go, you get Emma with you the whole time, Li, and more alternate routes. But if you don't, you get Miho, Lan, more NPC allies, an ending I actually prefer a bit more, and NO LINNY.

This fucking gem of a geme deserved a real fucking remake that would make us cry of nostalgia.Not this pice of shit.Dont give ur hard earned cash for this pice of shit remake.

it's that Unreal engine 3 style lighting that really made mee say that, only redeeming factor xd

same :(

WahNsir >:)

I'll check those out. Thx!

Whatever the Brigandine on Switch is called is pretty cool. I love the games where you conquer a map and defend bases, though in Brigandine I don't think I ever once lost a base, which is disappointing. Very short, but if you see it like a board game you replay a number of times it's pretty cool. I remember thinking the PS1 version was nothing special but I may have been put off by the hex grid and not given it a real chance. Switch one is really cool.

@@anonamatron [very long reply, but I've included a lot of information about Runersia that I think you'd like, including a way to increase the difficulty of the main game(not by limiting yourself, an inclusion in the games last patch) and the game's challenge mode.] Both games have the same kind of map design in and out of battle, the only difference is the balance. The developers that made the new game didn't seem to understand the reason for lower and high level knights, because if your characters are higher level and a higher class, the lower level enemies just really stand no chance. Levels make a huge difference on Brigandine The Legend of Runersia, where on the original PS1 version, they do matter, but the game is more balanced where lower levels are still viable. On the original game, you're also probably not going to actually lose any bases, or atleast it being very rare that you do, but enemies do attack more often and because the better balance, even lower level enemies and monsters will still put up a fight. There's a few things I don't like about the class system in Runersia, but overall I do think human classes are better because they have a lot of unique ways that they battle. Berserkers and lancers for example can use the spin attack to attack surrounding enemies with 100% hit percent, the monks can attack and knock enemies back, the thief can attack at a range and pull enemies towards them. The original game, the classes only have, an attack, a two or three space throwing attack, or an optional critical hit attack with lower accuracy(on GE only.) Plus whatever magic spells they may have. That being said, knights in the original and GE especialllly due to the balance are not nearly as powerful as the knights on Runersia. They are just as powerful as one of your monsters and by that, they are just as weak as any one of your monsters, meaning that they can go down pretty quickly, so you're more defensive towards your knights rather than being as offensive as you'll use them on Runersia since losing your knight means you lose all their monsters when they're forced to retreat. I'd rate Runersia an 8/10 because of the balance issues, while I'd rate the original Brigandine a 10/10. It's not perfect, nothing is, except Tetris, I can point out some issues on the original Brigandine but these are not stand out issues and only in certain maps, certain monsters. Since you did bring up that you own Runersia though. Try out Runersia's challenge mode. This is a brand new feature on Runersia. It doesn't exist on the original game or GE. Challenge mode allows you to choose 10 knights, a ruler and nine knights you've unlocked through all countries. You start in a single city on the map, all of the other cities are owned by the other countries. Each time you hit a goal, all of the enemies levels increase. So the first goal is to own four bases, so once acquiring two more, the enemies levels will then be a minimum of two across the board. The first battle is going to be relatively hard because everyone is on level one, the battles afterwards are a bit easier, but once the enemies levels start increasing, the second half of the game becomes much more difficult, especially if your monsters keep dying. When you have to get new level 1 monsters and enemies start on level 12, it's going to be extremely difficult to even finish battles without monsters dying. At the very end, all enemy monsters are on level 30. So this challenge mode unlike the main game can be lost. You basically have to use units to recruit other units while using other units to take over bases, etc. As you get new units you can start now using those new units to defend or take over other bases. So it definitely adds a lot more difficulty, and the best thing about it is that it shows just how much depth the Brigandine games have. Even more so than the original. Since all characters start on level 1, you now really get to take advantage of cross classing. On the original Brigandine you get to take advantage of this with the low level characters as well, but on the challenge mode, everyone starts on level 1, so you can take advantage of cross classing with literally every single character in your party. My favorite class in Brigandine the Legend of Runersia is the lancer, the royal guard actually which is the last class. However, you can start this class off as a dancer/assassin. Once getting to level 6, the dancer class is mastered and anything the dancer has that can be carried over will then be carried over to the lancer. After the lancer is mastered, you move onto the second dancer class, and then master that, all spells and skills will be carried over, and then your royal guard will be able to move, attack, and then move again, have higher critical hit chance, have higher evasion, as well as the skills and attacks the royal guard has. Another great cross class on Runersia is starting as a cleric. Cleric's have a medium amount of HP and a medium amount of MP. When mastering the cleric, you can change to a lancer, you now have a high defense, high attack class, with recovery magic. Once you master the lancer, you change to the healer class, and then change to the templar. You now have a high attack and high defense character that can use spin attacks and has healing, area heal, etc. Your HP, is probably only around 100 less than it would be if you started with a lancer and there are plenty of clerics that have decent attack/agility stats. The final two cross classes are both magic and both cross classing with the cleric. The first one is an enchantress/cleric. You may want to choose the base class as an enchantress so they have more MP and intelligence but using the enchantress and mastering them first makes it easier to use the cleric as both a back line magic user as well as a healing support. The next one is a bit more difficult to level up, but they are imo a better class once you level them up and that's the cleric/bard The reason for this is they have the support skills from the bard(which are only usable as a bard) they have the buffs and debuffs of the bard, and they do gain access to thunder, the most powerful of the single target three hex range attack spells. Using the bard abilities to increase an allies stats does so for several turns, meaning that one ally is going to be dealing higher damage, getting less damage each attack. You can also give up the amazing recovery support from enchantress/cleric if you want to build an enchantress/bard for the attack/buff support. So the optional challenge mode is the best thing about Runersia that the original game doesn't have. There is one last thing with Runersia, which was added in a patch when the PS4 version released. You can add revival stones per month to every country. Multiple revival stones. Revival stones will allow any dead monster within the past 50 monsters, to be revived after death. This means that if you max out the amount of revival stones that are given to each country every month, each country will be able to revive their most powerful monsters and since most enemy countries don't attack, the ones that you aren't actively attacking will just stock pile these stones and have an endless inventory by the time you get to them. They'll be able to continue to battle with their most powerful units in every single battle, that would actually significantly increase the difficulty of the main game instead of making the game easy after the first few initial battles against those countries.

Front Mission 5 may look good, but anyone who has ever played a serious Front Mission, realizes from the first minute how poorly executed the game is, they prioritized the graphics and killed the tactical freedom that the Wanzers had, prioritizing only their skins. The game starts slow and stays in that limbo for a loooooot of time giving you long and showy fights on big maps but feeling boring and bland.

Square-Enix created 2 of the Best RPGs of All Time in Their Own Concepts, games that once you experience them nothing comes close to what they offer. Final Fantasy XII (Original PS2) is the Most Colorful, Beautiful, Deep and Above All Things FREE Turn-Based RPG Game ever created and that today Nothing and Nobody has been able to imitate. The "Zodiac" Versions were a misconception that was born by people who didn't play the Video Game and who "To Nobody's Surprise" continued without playing it, limiting and changing the Lore of the Game for a Childish criticism of what they Asked Final Fantasy to be... X again. Front Mission 3 is the Definitive Tactical Mecha Game, nothing is the same, It has everything and the only thing missing to be consecrated as the Definitive of All Time are: Better Graphics and Quality of Life Mechanics that came with 4, a game that if they added the Internet Mechanics of 3 and the Wanzer Robbery System from the same would be the 2nd best Front Mission by far.

It's a polish studio that is notorious for making bad remakes. And funny thing is the Chinese studio that was supposed to do Front Mission Borderscape (now Mecharashi) had objectively better wanzer animations than what this garbage is.

@@jazztheartist damn

I loved the hell out of FM3 and was stoked to play FM4, but it seemed like a totally different game to me, and only had a couple characters or something, and.. I don't remember because I didn't play much but I remember it really letting me down. I've played FM3 a bunch of times... Never got to FM5, but I followed the translation project pretty closely and should have.