Frost Mage in The War Within - What NEEDS to change? 

I love Frost mage to the point that I only play that spec and no other mage specs. Maybe some shadow priest. I want to see videos on new talents / hero talents or whatever new system they introduce because your advise is mega useful and amazing honestly. Looking forward to it and hopefully you feel like doing it :)

Building off what you said at the end about root griefing. Having Roots grant Winter's Chill would be great for all the reasons you said. I also think Ice Nova and Frost Nova should just be combined. Make Ice Nova replace frost nova and just have it have 3 charges. I was teaching a guildy frost recently, and watched him do a key, trying to help their dmg. At one point I saw them GS -> ice nova on a target with 1 Winters Chill on it. Trying to explain the difference between: 1) Pet Freeze, Off the GCD, only castable during Icy Veins, does not consume a Winters Chill 2) Ice Nova, On GCD, Consumes a Winters Chill on the target 3) Frost Nova, On GCD, does NOT consume a Winters Chill on the target, requires melee range, 2 charges. 4) Cone of Cold. On GCD, adds 1 winters chill, resets CDs, replaces any WintersChills on the target, DO NOT USE FOR GS. Its just too much for newer players. Just change Ice Nova's tooltip to replace Frost Nova and grant an additional charge. Between DB, Cone, Freeze, Blast Wave, Poly, Slow, Ring of Frost, Frost Nova, Ice Nova, Mass Poly, etc, Mage has some CC button bloat, and I dont think lowering Frost's rotational CCs from 4 to 3 would be egregious.

I was in a WCM earlier this week thinking the same thing about the roots applying WC on unfreezable. I think that would feel so good. Instead oh having 100 thoughts run through my head in the 2.1 sec cast time of GS. Do I flurry, ice nova or frost nova. Do they have winter chill? 1 or 2? Is what's next to them freezable? Is it even going to splitting ice on who I want it to? I've also always wished frost had more consistency. I remember in SL I once casted 31 frostbolts and never got a brain freeze proc. Def better now with flurry have charges and being castable outside of brain freeze but there are still to many time I just gotta send a unshattered GS. Lastly I wish they stopped making boring teir bonuses. The 2pc is awesome. The 4pc I don't like. More rng for the rng heavy spec. So 60% of the time I don't have a 4pc?

Do you have a discord or somewhere you do the coaching over or a place of more information on mages, just started playing wow and I’ve got a couple 20 keys and would love more information bc I know I’m not playing optimally

What's the range of cone of cold? How close to you need to be. I didn't see a range in the tool tip. One of the talents says it resets the cooldown of frost orb or something? I just started playing mage

I feel like Fractured Frost was designed due to how well received lichborne was in Shadowlands, where they still wanted a way to have frostbolt hit multiple targets. They clearly were very conservative and this lead to the dead talent we see today. I personally would love to see some iteration of the lichborne playstyle return, I feel it was a much more intuitive and fun rotation in AOE.

Dev definitely heard about our cry for cauterize or stationary orb during the 10.1.5 rework. They didn't even bat an eye. It is very unlikely in 11.0.

Big agree on the AOE rotation. I would love it if they came up with a solution where we're not cycling 3 different freezes in AOE, and also a more elegant way to get shatters on unfreezable targets in AOE with freezables in there too. Maybe make our AOE freezes apply WC to unfreezalbe targets if it hit 3+ mobs?

I really want the mage devs to see this video.

For M+ (im around +20 atm) - would you go frost or fire? Could I stay frost in 23+? I hear fire is mandatory at higher keys?

Frost button bloat after the rework made me paly fire for the first time since BFA.

How do we get this implemented in the next expansion??? That's the question.

Deep Freeze is what I have to say

Orb should work like ravager.

Another great video, when can we expect you to start working at blizzard :)

Veery simple fix for many frost mage issues: If a mob cannot be frozen due to immunity or DR, it will instead add the Winter's Chill to the target, and if your root breaks to damage that is not a critical frost hit from you, it will apply Winter's Chill to the target. I also think many spells need to regain their purpose in the toolkit. There are too many spells which have a secondary and conflicting use attached to it that often isn't intuitive. Cone of Cold is damage and slow - not CD resets. Mirror Images drops aggro or makes enemies attack the wrong target as well as slowing, it does not reduce your damage taken. Invisibility makes you... invisible. It doesn't reduce damage taken. Ice Nova just plain doesn't need to exist. And what's going on with our major CD being both summoning a water elemental, which was its own CD, and Icy Veins, which was its own CD, at the same time. Does the game need such powerful cooldowns? I'd personally make it a choice node where you get to pick one or the other. I know these are all nerfs, but I would apply the same logic to virtually every class. There's just so much bloat and weird effects and hidden details everywhere. Nothing is intuitive or easy to grasp. Too much does something else than what it looks like it does.

Cold Snap should do what it used to do, reset all frost spells.

also you forgot to mention the rework that snowstorm clearly needs... with the addition of coldest snap it is really apparent that snowstorm needs a rework

I wish ip TV perma veins playstyle was an option. Kinda like Skb, but for frost. It's crazy how fire took frost consistent damage niche. I think they should give the winter tide icelances glacial blast. That would give us some semi-consistent spread cleave with good prio dam.

I want someone at Blizzard to just explain what's the issue is with giving all 3 specs cauterize. Did someone go up against a frost and arcane mage on a dev test server with cauterize, and it ended up causing them to rage? Did an enemy npc gain self-awareness and try to skynet the real world seeing frost and arcane with it? Is cauterize tied down by a code that prevents them from doing it?! Something. Anything. Just tell us why 🤦

no minecraft parkour, how am i supposed to watch this video 😡😡😡 oh yea, +111111111111111111 on the stationary/mouseover orb ffs lmao, and TW needs it's own button

GET ME OUT OF MELEE RANGE!!!!! either let me cast cone of cold from range with a telegraph circle or drop it on targets like comet storm. or just remove it from the rotation

Re that chart, no way Frost Mage as a class is that bad at living. It's still a Mage with some of the best defensives in the game. It's not quite as good as Fire and Arcane, but that difference has to be a skill issue thing of Frost andies. It's not squishier than Shamans for instance. I still like your suggestion about cold snap though.

Frozen orb needs to be removed even if they make it like the pvp talent. You then fall into the other big issues such as the sang affix or even a braindead tank who just keeps chain pulling away from orb (if you're pugging this is very common).