@@SwanPrincess899 he e Was in his right mind state and no achievements he has can take away the big L from him. Leo is just the best and he has been for a full year
I mean joker got “nerfed” right, it wasn’t that bad really. It’s like the palu nerf, it’s not effecting your standings in the tier list much if at all. Joker is still a very easy top 3.
@Sean Solo what you say, pelu is more like a change of the time of moves, the Nerfs of joker decreases the resistance and time of arsene, and decreases the range and hitbox of the guns, nobody can play so good like mkleo with joker that's all
Derick Espinosa zackray does great with joker. And the nerfs for both of those characters didn’t affect their stance in the meta at all, they’re still top 5 characters
@@seansolo3583 that's irrelevant the Nerf exist and end, you only say things about top characters but the point here is the Nerf, and the Nerf affect, and other thing I don't see zarkray win a tournament with joker like Leo 🤷🏻♂️
As with many things, Leo is significant better at catching items than most of the top players. It happened throughout this set and it happened throughout the later set with tea as well. Barely anything gets past him
Mr. Blue They were kinda significant due to disadvantage being harder for Leo to get out of and Arsene meter gets out quicker. Tell me what you want but in my honest opinion, Joker is now Top 3, whereas either Peach or Pikachu being top 2. Could go either way tbh
In hindsight, it's kind of amazing how poorly the end of Samsora's competitive smash career kinda went for him. His last 2 majors that he went to, at Let's Make Big Moves he lost is perfect set count vs. Tea in winners, having ended it with a 3-1 count. Then he further deepened his set count vs. Maister, which has his final set count forever at 0-5, out at 9th. Frostbite 2020, he gets upset by Toast, a rising star, and very convincingly. His last set in any supermajor was against the person he seems to have been friends with for a long time, Nairo. We know now that Samsora pulled a betrayal of sorts, so really this was the only way this could of ended. He did win CEO dreamland, but I think we could say it was very hallow. It was right before COVID hit, and no one was there that could really pose a threat (maybe other than Marss). His career ended with a shallow finish and large losses, and honestly... I think he deserved it.
Jeez samsora feeling the frostbite after this loss maybe samsora should try zero suit samus I seen him use her hes not bad at all with her. And mkleo proving joker is still good despite the nerfs
Why did Samsora Di out of the down throw at 7:57? I noticed many opponents against Mk Leo don’t Di out of down throw and I wonder why? Is it maybe to get a Di mix up?
Samsora is good but i can't stand his attitude in tournaments or his YT channel, he always gets super mad and pouty baby sometimes but it seems like everyone else generally have a good time and not throw a fit if they loose.
@@ineedaname9069 it's annoying when people spoil other newer videos in the comments of older videos, but spoiling a video in it's own comments is bound to happen. How else are you supposed to have discussion about who won?
I need A name Why would you read the comment section of a video you haven’t seen yet? Spoilers are lame and all but if you aren’t going to do anything to avoid spoilers in any capacity then you can’t care that much.
I wish samsora switch to zelda. I feel like zelda beats joker, since she kills so fast. plus you can stall aresene with up b or down b and if they get close you can natural b.
@@Lonewolfprime. Zelda can gimp Joker off stage easily with neural B if he doesn't have aresene. If joker tries to down B phantom slash, just grab them. Ya Zelda does get out speed by Joker, but if Zelda is played at a high level you need to predict your opponents since most of the cast is faster.
@@thomasalexander299 no that doesnt work because you can dodge the phantom edge guard easily and you cant gimp him with neutral b because its a tether grab and he mostly spaces out with the gun and zeldas too slow too use any moves onstage besides projectiles so zeldas a sitting duck on offensive and cant play defensive because thats what sam always does with jokers high damge combos and good speed and flexibility around the map
Ace Joker’s balanced when Arsen is gone, but for half the game he is the best character in the game, with crazy kill options and crazy combos. Arsen is just a jimick, go play a real fighting game
Nothing makes me so happy that seeing Samsora being destroyed, he does not deserves to be considered top 2 in the world, he is carried by Peach, without peach , he is just nothing.
Peach has arguably the highest skill gap in the game and Samsora has been a dedicated Peach main since Brawl and has done very well in Smash 4 (most notably second at Smash con 2018).
I bet you can't do half of the shit Samsora does with Peach. She's very OP if you know how to be technical with her. Sam has been playing Peach since Brawl. Get on his level, then talk shit.
Joshua Suh You can still lose with a good character, also just because there’s no other players that have taken joker as far as him it doesn’t mean he isn’t busted. That’s like saying if only one person was doing good with Brawl Meta Knight he wasn’t the best character in the game
ILT SIB that’s not why he’s broken. joker has no lag and is safe on basically everything. His hit boxes with Arsene are massive, his Arsene moves come out too fast, & he gets Arsene from basically everything
