Frosthaven in about 3 minutes 

Is there too much of a good thing in board gaming? I'd say Frosthaven makes a case for that. You can't just pick this up and play it casually, its a serious commitment for any group. Which is absolutely a strength of the game, how groups can get really into it for tons and tons of sessions. And that makes it awesome IF you are playing it that way. Don't get it unless you are gonna play it, otherwise its a very expensive paper weight.

Just always exactly the right amount of info to know what a game is about, and that takes real talent!

Less than 22 seconds and I already know that it indeed has a solo mode. THANK YOU!

I think even if people think it's not too daunting, at like 50-70 NZD for Jaws of the Lion on second hand market with 1 scenario played, or 90 new, you're absolutely best off playing that through and deciding "Do I want this 10 more times?". The quality of Jaws is so good for such a great price point that it's such a good value purchase even if you decide to get Gloom/Frost afterwards.

Just started our campaign! I'm so excited with the new features and refinements!

Nice one! Certainly the main reason that we got Jaws of the Lion rather than Gloomhaven was for the shorter campaign playtime. We've had JOTL for about a year now and the wife and I are only now on the last few scenarios of the 25 total. It's such good gameplay and absolute glory when you complete a scenario, but I can definitely see one getting demotivated if after a year you're still not even past a quarter of the game. Still, Frosthaven looks amazing and in a perfect world some friend or family member would randomly gift it to me and commit to playing every week! Cheers for the upload!

Great review Jarrod! I'm already looking forward to the digital implementation. Thx!

I'm loving gloomhaven, will get frosthaven as soon as they translate it in italian 🎉

The F/H review we’ve been waiting for! Thanks Jay, smashed it as usual.

Protip for anyone who hasn't kickstarted it: wait until it start hitting retail, cuz those prices are insane.

I really loved Gloomhaven, but I didn't have a group to play with, so was playing with two hands. It just felt like a lot of work and effort to play, and that didn't include all the time spent thinking about what to do. While the apps definitely helped, I don't think I can in good conscience buy this game, unless i find a group to play it with. And with everything going on... The pc version scratches my Gloomhaven itch well enough.

I was waiting for the joke. "Have you played Gloomhaven? That's it" - End

Having been able to compare Gloomhaven digital vs. Gloomhaven original, I'd definitely recommend people thinking about how they want to play the game. For solo, I'd make a strong case that digital is the version the game always should have been. All the complexity of setup and in-game admin handled automatically for you. Unless you particularly enjoy the tactile elements solo, then you'll get a lot more gameplay in less time with the digital version. For group play, that logic may still apply (and the digital version does handle multiplayer well), but there can be a shared joy / experience from such games in person, also sharing the admin out to ease the load. Plus gaming with others in person is generally much more sociable / enjoyable. I presume Frosthaven will get the same digital treatment, so it's something to bear in mind before dropping a lot of dollars on the board game. ______________ Moving specifically onto Frosthaven, I'll be interested in how people find the greater variety in scenarios. For me this was rather weak / repetitive in Gloomhaven, mostly being classic dungeon-crawl: kill monsters in room, kill monsters in next room, until all rooms emptied; a few 'survive 10 rounds'; not much else! I've heard they've freshened this side up a bit, but would be interested in how much. I'm not expecting Etherfields like innovation, but hopefully they took a lead from it in coming up with a little more variety to the challenges. As for the card system - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. For me that's the heart of the game and made it the success it was. Good to hear that you find the characters a bit more 'characterful' in this respect, even if that's only mechanical (Gloomhaven was not a narrative game where there was much fleshing out of 'personality' - and it never set out to be that).

It's going for 330 CAD at retailers in Canada. You also need a 100$ insert to organize it. So you really do need to go all in 😀

Thanks!

Any chance of Oath: Chronicles of Empire and Exile in about three minutes?

I played JOTL and kind of enjoyed it. The PC version of Gloomhaven was 👍👍

Great video as always, Jarrod. The game's not for me, but I think a lot of people will enjoy it.

Yup, I didn't even really get started on Gloomhaven before backing Frosthaven. Now I have it and I'm desperately pushing through a solo Gloomhaven so I can carry on into the sequel.

I’m loving FH even more than I expected. Boneshaper ftw! But do try JOTL first if you don’t know if this system is for you.

The lines have fully blurred now between board games and RPGs, and sometimes you’ve just got to ask yourself, isn’t this just an RPG with more bitz?

Alright Flaming Fowl, you know what we're gonna ask

Where can you buy Frosthaven online? I know The Wandering Dragon near me in Plainfield, Illinois sells it but their prices are ridiculous.

I saw this at PaxU... Was tempting. Do you have to play GH first to play this?

Thank you! Intriguing. Probably a no for me as I don't have the time.

Is 200USD worth the gameplay bundle? removable stickers, stand-alone campaigns, etx?

My 3 min with this game were opening the box, realizing I was in over my head, and putting the game back in the closet where it will probably sit un-played for the rest of time lol.

Why is it so low on BGG still ?

i dont know i really think there is a limit and even when its a good game its like you would have the witcher 3 5x the size.Its good but its simply to much ( and goddamn expensive) to enjoy.

Idk if I'd say semi coop lol, atleast for my group it isn't.

It's 2023 :)

Gloomhavens two card action selection system was very good, but rest of the game mostly wasn't and in the end it was pretty mediocre game. Frosthaven doesn't seem to be any better...

The game is way overpriced, just saw it in a game shop for $250. insane.

I am pretty sure it is a good game but it is not for me. Frosthaven is long, too much time for setup and tear down, and a lot of bookkeeping. I believed this types of games should be video games not board games.