I like how they made two new roads and tore them up then redid every existing road twice. Instead of just shutting down the intersection and doing it that way. Would have been far cheaper and faster.
yes, but the amount of havoc that would cause elsewhere was probably not worth it- some intersections are too critical to be able to close down longer than a weekend
It seems overly complicated because they had to keep traffic flowing through the intersection with minimal downtime. I'd imagine it might be just a little difficult keeping an intersection open when you also have to change basically everything about the intersection.
Building temporary roads is completely normal when constructing a new intersection with a lot of traffic that needs to keep flowing during construction work
Cocoanut Ave one block to the east (500ft) has the same number of lanes and goes completely parallel north/south. And the west side of the roundabout is a dead end without any buildings at the time of construction.
As an Australian, I thought the exact same thing. It's like they've tried to idiot proof it way too hard, and so it takes up way too much space as a result.
This area may get a lot of large truck traffic and the radii need to be of a sufficient size for them to navigate it without just plowing over the center
@@hooimeijerf It may come down to vehicle size and maneuverability differences then, or we just have larger standards. I'm not sure. This is about the right size for our roundabouts.
The roads approaching from the bottom and right have dedicated lanes for each direction (left lane turns left around the whole circle, middle goes straight, right slips right without entering the circle). The top and left roads have two lanes: one for going straight or turning left, and the other for a slip right turn)
This is in a growing area of florida, they are clearly building this up for future expansion. They should have just redirected the road once though, paving and repaving made no sense, but then again, this is in Florida.
How did the designer manage to ruin the simplicity of the design of a roundabout ? And why would they make entering lanes tangent to the circle thus making the design very much a design communicating yielding. Are they under the impression that because there is written "yield" that it will magically make people disregard the fact that the road is clearly made to keep the speed of entering cars ?
So it is diffuclt to make out from the camera angle, but there are traffic lights. In the USA, generally that would make it a traffic circle, not a roundabout.
in the US we yield to all those in the roundabout. When it's safe to enter you enter, when it's not safe you don't. It's not that hard. This roundabout is a traffic improvement over the lighted intersection that was previously present. Additionally, because it's a yield, if you are approaching at speed and it is already safe to enter; you enter. You don't need to slow down. It's not like each entrance has a stop sign. You only yield when it is not safe for you to enter
This is a problem with North American roundabouts, the lanes already point into the direction of the counter-wise flow of traffic which also makes it harder to see oncoming traffic on your left. The Netherlands has the best roundabouts so i suggest you take a look at those.
...And it's missing half the turbo part. Like seriously why are there two left-turn lanes on the road from the right? It's not like you can't make a roundabout with the ability to change lanes to make a U-turn
@@Robotical_RiGo they had 2 left turn lanes before the roundabout, probably needed that capacity. Only cars coming from the left need to make a lane change if they need to make a u turn, and they can change lanes when the inside lane starts. This roundabout seems good for it's purpose and the other half of the turbo would make it less effective if there is a lot of cars coming from the right and making a left turn, which is probably why the ended up with this design. You can design an intersection for your needs and not just try to adapt a normal roundabout everywhere. If the connection on the left had a lot of traffic, then a normal two lane would be better.
@@eikuz Ok, that seem fair. I think I forgot to consider highrer traffic in some directions. Now to me it seems efficient, but a little confusing for first time drivers. I don't have all the context for this intersection, so maybe there's more frequent drivers wo learn quickly what to do. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.
it's not ineficcent when you have to build one on an intersection that's existed far longer than the development has, and have to allow traffic to flow at the same time. Americans love roundabouts which is why we're building more. ignorant euro comment as usual
To construct them efficiently you have to block the traffic which no one wants because the cars will all seek other ways in their residential side streets.
What's ridiculous is the 3 entry lanes into the roundabout and the one lane around part of the centre. This isn't a roundabout its totally overcomplicated round-squished-avocado. The peak traffic is inside the circle. The road was built and demolished 3 times. Several bits of property were destroyed too. They could have kinked the road towards the left there, so most of the roundabout was built before messing with the current intersection. Then they could have joined the current roads over the weekend.
@@ilgiuse7728But it does? Check the beginning and the end at the start of the roads at the top and the bottom of the screen. The beginning has 4 lanes at the top, 5 lanes on the right, and 5 lanes at the bottom counting the slip lane. At the end, there are 4 lanes at the top, FOUR lanes on the right, and 5 lanes at the bottom including the slip lane. It actually has less lanes!
Companies that waste our time and money like this should be penalized where they cannot be awarded future projects for a while. This turned 1 project into like 3 and milked us for all we have.
I mean, it’s a step in the right direction and definitely MUCH safer then a intersection, it may be built for trucking and that’s why it’s so large (just a theory) but either way it’s better then doing nothing.
In my province we have a few of these turbo roundabouts and at first they were uncomfortable to drive but quickly the locals catch on. In the summer you expect to find some slow confused drivers (mostly Americans imo) but you simply accomodate and maybe honk at them. My serious critique is the missing island on the bottom 3 lane.
I’m from Belgium and when I just got my license, first thing I did was drive to NL, they have these turbo’s everywhere (makes sense since it was invented there) but it freaked me out the first time as well 😂
America had traffic circles before Europe did. They were removed before the modern roundabout was developed. America started building them in the early 90s after France completed their roundabout conversion that started in the late 80s.
@@sm00thgames63 you need statistics and reports o about the road and it has to pass an inspection by you for you to determine whether it’s worth it or not
*The slip lanes are unnecessary* , they encourage fast traversal, which undermines safety. This roundabout is monstrous in a bad way. The blame for Wright Construction may be for the amount of destruction involved, but likely not for the excessive design
There are no slip lanes. The shape makes it look like there are slip lanes but right turning cars actually have to yield to oncoming traffic from the roundabout.
@@DwightKShrute0 a roundabout - a road junction that traffic moves in one direction around a central reservation to another road known as an “exit” Therefore, that road isn’t a roundabout since traffic isn’t moving in one direction, it’s a T-junction
I love roundabouts because I hate speeders. I hate those hotheads in a hurry hombres who tear thru traffic @ 80mph endangering us all. I have even seen some of these fool cross into the oncoming lanes to pass. Others I have seen pass on the shoulder. I figure they must be late for last call. Roundabouts are designed to catch these fools. If you charge into a roundabout at high speed you wont be able to make the turn & you will go up & over the center putting you airborne and into a crash. Thats why all roundabouts center is raised like they are. I love 'em. !
@@1fiack there are only 1-2 lanes in the roundabout. Just like any standard roundabout. The extra lanes are on the approaches. They are like slip lanes but are still subject to the yield condition upon entry.
@@lEGOBOT2565 nope. Visited plenty of countries and roundabouts like these are really safe for pedestrians, US road design just sucks. i.ytimg.com/vi/FR5l48_h5Eo/maxresdefault.jpg
It doesnt look like it but surely the pedestrian crossing om the bottom right has signals? No way should people be crossing 3 lanes like that without traffic being stopped. Doesnt need to be 3 lanes anyway if it was an actual roundabout. Theres probably 10,000 junctions like this with roundabouts and they work fine but the design was changed here
turbo roundabouts were invented in the Netherlands, they're more safe and more efficient than normal circles although i'm not so sure about this one in particular with the slip lanes and seemingly high-speed design
@@intervrt In the US suburban stroads like this one through Fruitville used to be 45 mph country roads and speed limit guidelines mandate a legal limit the same as or higher than the travelling speed of 85% of the traffic.
@@user-uo7fw5bo1oThis is 1 turbo roundabout out of thousands already built in the US. I suggest not making a clown out of yourself in making blatant generalisations
Oh buddy I love how you responded to this, at first you might think increasing green time is better, but actually creates more traffic imbalance, as more green for one side makes a extended wait time for the other side. Here a roundabout kills both the wait and the dangers of red light crossers and tbone accidents, and essentially forces drivers to slow down. So what they did was absolutely a good idea.
This is not a roundabout these are r compöicated intersections in one, A roundabout is one way jas no traffic lights and the cars in the roundabout have priority exit before all others can enter
That's a multi-lane traffic circle which are considered dangerous. A modern roundabout is a single lane traffic circle with 10 mph - 15 mph operating speed using yield merge traffic metering. Those are the only traffic circles that will be included in roundabout statistics. The main road would have likely been served better by a good traffic light designed intersection. Ponderous amounts of left turning traffic from two roads of comparable volume are candidates for roundabouts. Roundabouts should process traffic faster than a alway stop controlled intersection. People pushing for roundabouts are secretly pushing for traffic. calming devices to discourage through traffic.
I love how every time we make a roundabout in the USA it has to be the mosy insane shit ever. They try and itiot-proof it with all of these markings and they split up the lanes and try and guide people the right way. In my opinion it all backfires and they should just make a normal roundabout like the rest of the world does. So silly.
This is a well designed turbo roundabout, I’m actually impressed. Just look at how it would flow, very smooth and signs should be easy to read (the ones that look like traffic lights.)
👎1:15 the Red car is at a Spot where drivers can get confused. The arrow under him shows straight and left. But there are 2 left lanes. What, if he pick the most left lane, he will just know he's wrong after he will pass the "only left arrow there. 👎
@@meisterxehanort1941 didnt we talk about improvements here? i just show whats wrong and you say its not important. maybe. but its still not good designed. youll have to agree on that bec its just true
The intersection didn't even need a roundabout, even when they closed so many lanes traffic was fine let alone build such big and fast and complicated roundabout
