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FT8 on a Yaesu FTDX101MP and ALC, does it really matter? - KJ7E 

Damon Stewart
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This video was in response to a video I saw here: • FT8 HAM Radio - How to...
Where the claim was, driving the FT8 audio into a Icom IC-7300 SDR HF radio to the point of ALC action would cause flat top distortion. My response was, the conclusions made by the VK2HTV was based on the audio scope displayed on the IC-7300, which is just a software representation of the audio and not a derived from sampled RF and a real measurement. It also appears the flat top waveform distortion is just the vertical limit of the audio scope with the sensitivity settings he is using.
An RF sample fed into an external Oscilloscope would be necessary to verify transmitted audio is being driven into distortion. So I thought I would demonstrate this on my SDR HF radio to show, the effect of driving the FT8 tones into the radio at audio levels well below the ALC threshold and up to max ALC.
Not all radios are the same, my point here is, you cant trust the fake audio scope on the IC-7300, if you want to be sure whats going on, you have to measure this with external equipment.

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@g0fvt
@g0fvt 11 месяцев назад
Well done for addressing this myth, of course it is still possible to overload the analogue audio path in the radio but that is a separate issue. My FT8 activity was a nuisance to a local (he lives a few hundred feet away) but that was more down to the phase noise of my rig (he too was using FT8).
@timsul3092
@timsul3092 2 месяца назад
Would the ALC have any effect on FT8 while using the FTDX-10? I would think not since they're basically the same radio in not all, but many aspects.
@Aussie_Ham_Radio
@Aussie_Ham_Radio 11 месяцев назад
Hi there thanks for your video - could you do another video where your oscilloscope flat tops and then do a signal report comparison with something like PSK reporter and compare the difference between some ALC and a lot of ALC
@damonkj7e
@damonkj7e 11 месяцев назад
Even with the ALC well above scale, the AFSK audio tone will not clip and distort. See my second video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-40gkEIPROIw.html
@M0JHN
@M0JHN 11 месяцев назад
With the changes in digital modulation with the ALC compensating up and down fluttering would that not introduce unexpected changes in the receive signal thereby increasing the decode error.
@damonkj7e
@damonkj7e 11 месяцев назад
With single tone FSK type of modulation (FT8, FT4, PSK31...) the transmitter ALC will have no effect as the audio levels do not change, they are a constant level and shift in frequency only. It sounds like you could be referring to the receiver AGC controls which is an another subject not covered here.
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