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Fuji's film recipe vs real film (X100VI vs Portra 400) 

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@yalborap
@yalborap 2 месяца назад
The differences are subtle at first, to be sure, especially if you're not looking at them side by side. I'm not a Fuji shooter myself (couldn't get in before the pricing bubble), but from an outside perspective, the first thing I notice is that all the shadows are lifted a little bit in the simulation shots. They end up looking more like *faded* Portra 400 that was improperly stored, as opposed to what a fresh roll got you. It needs that extra bit of room to fall off into pure black, and perhaps a little more willingness to blow out the highlights. If it could give you just a little more on either end of the tonal curve, I think it would be *real* close.
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Yeah, agreed! I ended up amping up the contrast for the final recipe.
@log791
@log791 2 месяца назад
Sorry but these are not even close. The film has much more micro contrast, so mid tones pop compared to the mostly dull images from the Fuji. VSCO does it better, but still not like the original film. Good job anyway!
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Thank you!
@blockbusterlatefees7713
@blockbusterlatefees7713 2 месяца назад
I would love to see you create your own Portra Recipe based on your film photos. 🎉 The FujiX recipe is great for an "inspired" look, but after seeing other videos comparing Fujix to real film, the FujiX is missing the highlight and contrast. Not to the fault of the camera or even the recipe, because all settings can be adjusted. I think Fujix is great as a base, because one thing the creator of Fujix makes sure to say is every roll of film can develop different based on chemical process, manufacturing of film, development process from the lab...ect. Reggies Portra is also another portra on Fujix that lives as a recipe on my camera. More of an inspired look than a replica but its got beautiful soft kodak like colors. Cheers!
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the comment! I have done some of my own recipes, but eventually they go quite far from any “film stocks” that it’s just hard to compare them to anything.
@sie11pervan
@sie11pervan 2 месяца назад
This is always a crazy difficult comparison to make. If the exposure isn't exactly the same in both cases, it will already be difficult to compare both. Thanks for this video!
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching! And I agree, but I didn't want to make this too scientific, rather than just something fun to share :)
@sie11pervan
@sie11pervan 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick You got it! And you achieved exactly that. Good bottomline as well. The recipes are good, great even, but to really match them in all lighting conditions they need some tweaks.
@MoiseLevi
@MoiseLevi 2 месяца назад
Great video comparison, been using Fujis for many years, been playing around simulations as well, I find Classic Negative to be more "filmic" style ... try the following, Classic Neg, Grain Strong & Large, DR 400 (Base ISO @640) H-2, S-2, Color +4, WB Auto R-2, B-5, and keep the exp comp above +1. Enjoy
@richbrook101
@richbrook101 2 месяца назад
Exactly. I saw the red in the portra and immediately thought of Classic Neg
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Thank you! Will try that out!
@thepolardesert
@thepolardesert 2 месяца назад
I got a cheap 3d printed lens that repurposed a disposable camera lens for my X-T20, and that crappy plastic adds so much to making the image more organic. I think the x100 VI Lens is just so well designed and sharp that it instantly feels hyper clinical when compared side by side directly to film.
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Haha awesome!
@just_eirik
@just_eirik 2 месяца назад
I feel like Fuji needs to make more simulations with more severe color casts. Like they have sims that are supposed to be neutral (provia, reala ace, pro neg) that don’t do very much interesting with the colors. Then they have some that have more interesting colors baked in, like classic chrome, nostalgic neg and especially classic neg. They need more of the latter category! Many of the photos in this comparison shows that the digital camera just makes the most grey and boring edit to the raw data, while the film ones have such a nice color to them.
@just_eirik
@just_eirik 2 месяца назад
I assume this recipe uses classic chrome? Even classic chrome is too reserved and boring in many situations imo.
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Yes, it was classic chrome.
@TopshelfJunior
@TopshelfJunior 2 месяца назад
Nice video man ! As a Fuji owner + user, along with some other brands...one thing I will say and have always felt...Fuji simulations are good / solid, but they always still need SOMETHING. Obviously we all have posted SOOC Fuji images but, I believe we ALL still wanted to give the images something lol. Even a slight adjustment, of something. Temp / contrast / more grain / shadows, something. I don't know what it is or why that is lol. I'm on the X-T5 right now and love it but, I'm also shooting something else...where I truly have been getting it SOOC and not want or have to adjust anything. Anyway, dont wanna take up too much space...that breakfast sandwich looked amazing and that image in the canal at 4:58 was sweet !
@TopshelfJunior
@TopshelfJunior 2 месяца назад
+ SUBSCRIBED !
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Haha, thank you! And I think I agree! But with X100VI I have truly enjoyed thes SOOC photos a lot. With my X-T4 I always only shoot RAW though.
@TopshelfJunior
@TopshelfJunior 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick Word !!!! Understood.
@saaaaaammy
@saaaaaammy 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclickOut of interest, what makes you only shoot raw on your xt4?
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
⁠I just have always shot raw with it, maybe because I mostly shoot work stuff with it and I want the maximum capabilities
@rebours
@rebours 2 месяца назад
The clarity of the film and its overall rendition of colors and contrast consistently wins over fuji x and not by a small margin...The soft look/barely defined contours, weird yellow/green cast, gives it away each time. It's high time for a new generation of sensors (other manufacturers included). This aesthetic is beginning to get old and no resolution race will help color separation issues and flat images.
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
I am pretty happy that film still stands out compared to film.
@tito_jeyms
@tito_jeyms 2 месяца назад
Props for taking the time to make this! 🙌🙌🙌
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching!
@Valerycorbin
@Valerycorbin 2 месяца назад
Legit video mate :) Do you remember by chance what was your white balance setting? On the part of you showing the recipe it seems to be on Color Temperature (K) but no specific value. Cheers from Paris
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
It was the same as the one provided at the start of the video!
@Valerycorbin
@Valerycorbin 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick Thanks!
@SombreroConservative
@SombreroConservative 2 месяца назад
Good stuff man, I would love to see someone redo this with a Fuji that has the XTRANS2 sensor..
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
I only have Xt4 and X100vi and I think they both have xtrans 4?
@mortenthorpe
@mortenthorpe 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclickxt-4 is the 4’th generation sensor, while x100vi (any 40 megapixel apsc Fuji camera) is the fifth generation…
@ChrisBrogan
@ChrisBrogan 2 месяца назад
Really interesting experience to watch. Love this. I'm not bright enough to know the difference. I think it looks good enough for me.
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much!
@jakecowan7436
@jakecowan7436 2 месяца назад
To recap...nothing beats film
@juhoclick
@juhoclick Месяц назад
Depends
@yingerwong
@yingerwong 2 месяца назад
Do you mind sharing how did you color grade the video footage?
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
I used DaVinvi to color grade it, but my nodes are all over the place :D maybe I should make a tutorial?
@q4short
@q4short 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick110% yes. Very interested to see this tutorial. I’m more interested in how good your video footage looks than the picture comparisons. Some of the clips are captured from even iPhone due to the punch zooms?
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
@@q4short Yes, a lot of iPhone footage here as well.
@vannoz66
@vannoz66 2 месяца назад
What strikes me are especially the much warmer, almost yellowish colors of the real film. Maybe something which could be added in post?
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Yeah for sure, or I could white balance the film scans, but the whole idea was not to do any edits.
@vannoz66
@vannoz66 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick you are fully right. But then without editing there is IMHO quite a difference not only in grain and sharpness, which is due also to the cameras and lenses, as you pointed out, but also in colors. In other words the digital simulation is far from ideal. But maybe I am wrong, happy to be corrected! :)
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
@@vannoz66true true. But if you think of it that way how much would you need to edit these to make them almost identical, I think you wouldn’t need to do too much. Maybe. Idk 😂
@neglectedloves
@neglectedloves 2 месяца назад
nice comparison! Thanks for the nice video 🙌🏻
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching! Any favorite photos?
@neglectedloves
@neglectedloves 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick they are all nice and the classic cars are definitely an eye catcher but also often seen... so my top favorite is the mattress 03:24 and the monochrome driveway at 5:34 To me it seems as if this recipe actually shines with an overcast sky it adds to that overall softness... beautiful! 👏🏻
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
@@neglectedloves Thank you so much for the feedback!
@neglectedloves
@neglectedloves 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick btw I have created a collection PDF of my favorite Fuji recipes from various sources (for my personal use) with settings and images. I will add your edited Portra 400 to that PDF if I may! 😀
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
@@neglectedloves please do! And share the PDF :D
@macoto7976
@macoto7976 2 месяца назад
Very nice. What area of LA were these shot in?
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
In Marina Del Rey
@macoto7976
@macoto7976 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick Oh cool. Going to be near that area next well I'll have to see if I spot some of those sights.
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
I’ll hope you do!
@RikMaxSpeed
@RikMaxSpeed 2 месяца назад
Classic sports cars! That’ll get you more likes any day 😄🎉
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
True that!
@Stickybutton
@Stickybutton Месяц назад
Is this Mustang heaven?
@juhoclick
@juhoclick Месяц назад
Almost, almost…
@mixdown78
@mixdown78 2 месяца назад
FIlm clearly wins this one for me
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
On every photo?
@mixdown78
@mixdown78 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick honestly 80% of the pictures. (Not in terms of detail of course)
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
I think if simulation is better in 20% of cases I think it’s pretty amazing 😂
@mixdown78
@mixdown78 2 месяца назад
@@juhoclick ;) they have had now 20 years in development and copying the colors, but honestly I think the same, Fujifilm did an incredible job with the film simulations. for that reason I own a Fujifilm X System and 35mm and medium format cameras. Everyone has its benefits
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
Word!
@showcards
@showcards 2 месяца назад
real film look more contrast and saturated + warmer... fujifilm x100VI is disapointing ... it look cheap... and this is not portra and it look like fake :(
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
I would have to disagree on that
@Lifebydesignvlogs
@Lifebydesignvlogs 2 месяца назад
99% of them or useless
@juhoclick
@juhoclick 2 месяца назад
I dont agree
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