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FULL Armor Tier List For Tarkov’s Massive Armor Buff! (Patch 0.14.9.1) 

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@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
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@flaggboi
@flaggboi 3 месяца назад
you look absolutely gorgeous today gigabeef!
@shaggymanson5375
@shaggymanson5375 3 месяца назад
Why is the thor not better then a slick i dont get why you put slick abov it since it has side armor and slick dose not.. Dosnt side armor give you armpit protection...
@alexmaurice4274
@alexmaurice4274 2 месяца назад
Is this newer armor system kinda a middle ground between what we’ve had?
@vali69
@vali69 3 месяца назад
Bruh I love how the slick went from S tier pre 0.14 to F in 0.14 and now back in S.
@Tman2bard
@Tman2bard 3 месяца назад
its really weird how a garbage IRL plate that's only meant for being quick and providing the least protection change is now god tier. Its stupid
@vali69
@vali69 3 месяца назад
@@Tman2bard I know. It never made any sense. Good thing I don't have to update to this garbage update and continue playing spt.
@lolean17
@lolean17 3 месяца назад
People crying as usual. We had a wide range of bullets usable and now it's back to old system : overprice AP ammo or you can't kill.
@zolo-p3p
@zolo-p3p 3 месяца назад
@@lolean17hit headshots noob
@xXxNECROMONGERxXx
@xXxNECROMONGERxXx 3 месяца назад
@@lolean17 Every gun is a fucking laser beam with no recoil now. Just hit your shots.
@nateandrade5083
@nateandrade5083 3 месяца назад
I wouldn't know my head from my ass in Tarkov if it wasn't for Gigabeef.
@RyanSmith-jy7ph
@RyanSmith-jy7ph 3 месяца назад
People talking about the old armor system... bet they dont remember when you could put an armored rig over actual body armor and double up that way.
@АндрейМочалов-щ9р
@АндрейМочалов-щ9р 3 месяца назад
It didnt really matter that much. The main problem with huge unpredictable TTK now is that armor has zones with independant hp pool. Add to that arms, side plates and back plate tanking a round or two sometimes when you hit really hight in the shoulder area. The actual TTK in game can easily be x2 of theoretical. The armor is OP now, there is no question about it. And its obivioulsy broken, due to how its coded. The smallest platecarriers like slick or tagila avs are again the best form of protection, even better then a full scale armor vest. Its stupid. BSG should just completely roll back the armor to 0.13 state, or keep the work on health system and ammo stats to improve the initial plates implementation. What we ended up now with is a overcomplicated brokenly overpowered abomination.
@drbeanbeanbino5746
@drbeanbeanbino5746 3 месяца назад
​@@АндрейМочалов-щ9р my dude have you played? It's a little better but even rocking level 6 plates on these s their armor hasn't saved people from scavs 1 tapping right thru with ps ammo. I been seeing that happen even more lately to my buds who are not as experienced
@drbeanbeanbino5746
@drbeanbeanbino5746 3 месяца назад
As for the original comment I miss that silly shit. Putting 50 plus flashlights on a gun, or the hk m4 meta, the old ash 12 meta, even the old sa 58. They were just simpler but fun times
@АндрейМочалов-щ9р
@АндрейМочалов-щ9р 3 месяца назад
@@drbeanbeanbino5746 yes, i've played after the update and tried a number of different ammo. 7.62 PP, 7n40 felt absolutely terrible. i was scoring doesens of hits on the single guy and not being able to kill him until one landed in the face. somewhat decent was the igolniks, but they do so little damage that it also takes a lot of hits to kill a guy in class 5+3 armor. low damage high pen rounds seems to work very bad now for some reason. the most consistent was 7.62 BP. anyway, we are talking about endgame ammo now and it works kind of bad against even class 5 armor, wich is everywhere and very easily obtainable. scavs is absolutely another problem, they have nothingto do with how armor works. they should have fixed AI accuracy instead of making armor OP.
@GiRR007
@GiRR007 3 месяца назад
@@АндрейМочалов-щ9р They should be the best forms of protection considering they are the rarest and most expensive.
@Dethecus0
@Dethecus0 3 месяца назад
I wish I could give this two thumbs up, love the work you do for the community with things like this.
@mattmantrell5708
@mattmantrell5708 3 месяца назад
14:25 "basically everything from D up to S ..is at least 7 out of 10" Got it
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
Honestly though you can use any of these and it will be "fine"
@c-fluff1399
@c-fluff1399 3 месяца назад
I love how you are left completely in the dark without videos like this
@godskitten49
@godskitten49 3 месяца назад
Ironically armour matters even less this patch than last, since it's about having good plates not good vests nor rigs. It really is such a brash knee-jerk overcorrection from bsg. Mid tier ammo is backto being WORSE THAN LEG META which is terrible game design imo. Return to previous system, but cover armpit with soft+side plate, then up soft armour class on higher up armours to 3.5/4. Maybe even bring back stacking body armour and armoured rigs, but with one one plate per plate 'area'.
@DropinNukes
@DropinNukes 3 месяца назад
I just like that armor isn’t ruined after 1-2 gunfights. The old durability was so egregious
@Stompound
@Stompound 3 месяца назад
I've been dying consisently to Head, Throat hitbox since the armor changes dropped. I wouldn't call that a statistic but I don't think I'd ever died to that hitbox before. Now I die to it constantly. Food for thought
@Icerz.
@Icerz. 2 месяца назад
Probably because it's the only place that can pen so the places you would normally die to can't be penned leaving you only to die to head and neck
@Jacob-vg2hh
@Jacob-vg2hh 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot for the list!! I still think its stupid that armour that says is covers thorax has less coverage than armour that just covers front and back playe
@slyfoxbraixen48
@slyfoxbraixen48 Месяц назад
Be like me: 1) Go to factory 2) Encounter Tagilla 3) Clap his cheeks 4) Take Class 6 armor rig 5) Separate plates from armor rig 6) Sell armor rig for mula 7) Get BNTI Zhuk/BNTI Kirasa 8) Insert plates 9) Repeat Reliable 3x3 class 6 easy to obtain and farm armor..... until you get the common misfortune of an AI scav decapitating you with a CSP to the neck. Bots in PVE eat αςς like Papa Franku when he was still alive
@Blue_Raja-xg9jd
@Blue_Raja-xg9jd 3 месяца назад
Absolutely top tier content as always.
@TheAbyrr
@TheAbyrr 3 месяца назад
Do you suppose BSG watches Giga to have him explain their game to them?
@Tman2bard
@Tman2bard 3 месяца назад
Him and Airwing are the only 2 that really get into the nitty gritty of all this BS. Better tutorial than they'd themselves could ever make.
@xSintex
@xSintex 3 месяца назад
Good old bsg, one step forward, 50 steps back. They can never balance things out. Its either useless or godlike.
@SgtEatASnickers
@SgtEatASnickers 3 месяца назад
Awesome, I like the variety. I was tired of exclusively running those heavy Russian armors all the time. CPC back on top baby
@slappomatthew
@slappomatthew 3 месяца назад
The press armor is better than a hex grid what universe are we in anymore?
@Xenix-xb4gw
@Xenix-xb4gw 2 месяца назад
i guess im in the minority with hating this armor change. i loved the .14 armor, and i thought most hated this new tanky shit as much as me but i guess not. i cant find anything agreeing with me. so i think after 4 years this is what does it for me. goodbye tarkov. you have completely moved away from what i loved when this game was new.
@Soul_Grinder
@Soul_Grinder 3 месяца назад
do the ANA M1/M2 differ in anything other than pocket sizes?
@TwiggehTV
@TwiggehTV 2 месяца назад
M2 rig comes back on insurance more since people put ur helmet and comtacs in the m1 rig when they loot u. M2 rig just isnt worth to loot
@cheemsuo8999
@cheemsuo8999 3 месяца назад
The only buff i need rn its one for lapua magnum fmj, that bullet its a joke rn
@ogtaki
@ogtaki 3 месяца назад
I knew the black hex was garbage, w the armour rework. Some kid on the offical discord said “no its not its a tier 6!” 😂
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
No soft is... yeah why bother haha
@흠아나
@흠아나 3 месяца назад
Don't trust this video trooprr armor A class is scam lol
@someguyrocks
@someguyrocks 3 месяца назад
This is so stupid and convoluted now.
@AshM308
@AshM308 22 дня назад
lol ok. Slick is only font and back but its S tier. Ig its an opinion.
@JM-ub5sf
@JM-ub5sf 3 месяца назад
your armor links on imgur dont work
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
They do for me
@fernandoferraz3527
@fernandoferraz3527 3 месяца назад
Back to spt realism. Screw tarkov and bsg
@MarkedPilot_64
@MarkedPilot_64 3 месяца назад
This is definitely the worst tierlist I've ever seen
@jgorogue
@jgorogue 3 месяца назад
My beloved cpc and tactec are back, I immediately noticed that the armor is actually absorbing shots
@Chevalier_knight
@Chevalier_knight 3 месяца назад
I brought 20 of the flea the night before the patch for super cheap im running lvl 6 cult plates in them
@_fissure1441
@_fissure1441 3 месяца назад
They've been my favorite for a log time. Happy they're back to being good!
@paladin4367
@paladin4367 2 месяца назад
Drd is better but has the downside of removing the ability to be withing 500 meters of a school
@soap6264
@soap6264 Месяц назад
yeah, i did a scav and it had one on but i just dumped it straight away cause i don't rly wanna wear a pedo armour
@adub255
@adub255 11 дней назад
Dumb. Makes no sense
@adub255
@adub255 11 дней назад
@@soap6264should’ve kept it on then pedo
@soap6264
@soap6264 11 дней назад
@adub255 Dr disrespect is a kid diddler so he's not allowed to go near schools
@Pat-The-Fat
@Pat-The-Fat 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much man. I truly love these long, in-depth videos because it shows dedication and good hard work on your part. I saw this today morning so I studied all day so I can sit down afterwards , get my tea and enjoy this. Thank man and love live hardcore.
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
Thanks :)
@melonetankberry5211
@melonetankberry5211 3 месяца назад
now that we had some time with the new armor: we are literally back to before the change. if you don't run 308, 277 or 556 you are crippling yourself. it went from almost all guns are kind of viable to 70% are straight not.
@Handcannon77
@Handcannon77 3 месяца назад
It doesnt really make any sense that armors like the Ghzel, and Zhuk are somehow in A tier, whilst the Tactec, Tagilla rig, and Slick are above it in S tier despite not having the ability to insert side plates. While the tactec/tagilla rig/slick might have their aramid cover the "front plate/back plate" hitbox(which I wouldnt be surprised if this was an oversight, and artifact of the old plate hitbox..dont think its meant to cover basically your entire thorax in aramid), the Zhuk/Ghzel basically have just as much aramid coverage(arguably more) on top of side plates. The only advantage something like the Slick has over the Zhuk/Gzhel is the "front plate/back plate" aramid tag giving it aramid over the armpit area, but the Zhuk/Gzhel basically has aramid everywhere outside of that area, including areas that the Slick doesnt cover like the Stomach/Throat/Neck..and has side plates. The throat/neck is just as vulnerable as the armpit in terms of 1 shot=dead, so you can argue that in terms of aramid coverage theyre basically equal(although Zhuk does cover stomach as well, but getting your stomach blacked doesnt put you in immediate danger), which should mean that the addition of side plates pushes the Zhuk/Gzhel over the Slick/Tactec. Its also completely nonsensical to have the 2 CPC rigs in the same tier as the Tactec/Tagilla/Slick, since they all have the same Front/Back Plate aramid coverage...except the CPC's can take side plates while the others cant, which gives them an objective, and clear advantage. Im not sure what the logic is for putting them in the same tier. The Tactec/slick/Tagilla should all be in A tier.
@itz_sleek
@itz_sleek 3 месяца назад
20:06 Ouch, this was a low blow watching this after getting head, jaws’d up at reserve dome by a AI scav down by manhole extract 😂
@wordlessi
@wordlessi 3 месяца назад
i think side plates on korund is easily better than only soft side protection under armpits on the tv-110.
@CowBoyMurks
@CowBoyMurks 3 месяца назад
Totally agree I disagree with beef on that one
@umbrella4407
@umbrella4407 3 месяца назад
TV-110 has armpit plate as well as soft armor, the korund does not have soft armor there, hence the TV-110 protects thorax better. If you want extra stomach plate protection though instead of armpit soft that is fair.
@wordlessi
@wordlessi 3 месяца назад
@@umbrella4407 Yeah that would make it better but tv-110 does not take side plates.
@umbrella4407
@umbrella4407 3 месяца назад
@@wordlessi Side plates do not protect thorax. The front plate has been extended to cover the armpit area, and for armors such as the CPC and TV-110 the soft armor shares hitbox with the plate collider, hence the TV-110 has more thorax protection than the korund as the soft protection follows the plate into the armpit, whilst armor such as the korund does not have soft armor beneath the plate there. The korund has much better stomach coverage though. If you care about thorax a lot more than stomach, the TV-110 is better than korund. If you want to protect stomach with side plates and soft armor that covers stomach more, the Korund is better.
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
It's a choice you have to make on this, practically there are advantages to both depending on what situation you are in
@SandP4ever22
@SandP4ever22 3 месяца назад
armor change is not good in my opinion. I get where if you grind you should get better gear but the ammo required to get through this armor is ridiculous to get. If you are making level have this big of a seperation based on ammo you have access to then you need to separate lobbies by level. In other MMO type games you cant go fight a max level at a lower level because of the inability to do damage to higher levels. This armor change puts this in a similar category in my opinion.
@MrRipYourHeadOff
@MrRipYourHeadOff 3 месяца назад
Yeah I would also like to see level based matchmaking
@davidcarp1034
@davidcarp1034 3 месяца назад
i do like videos like this but realistically they just make the game stale and forces people to run identical gear to each other. Instead of spending a wipe figuring out whats good and what's not, you're going to have people immediately running meta gear even if they don't know why its good. Just the state of gaming in the content creation era. kinda sucks, but i still like the videos.
@simonmoore8019
@simonmoore8019 3 месяца назад
This is just high pen meta bullshit all over again. I think I just won't play the game anymore at this point. Being forced to use meta guns/calibers is just not fun, especially when they locked the ammo behind quests that are the weakest part of Tarkov. At this point you just need to use SVT with meta ammo to even have hope to kill players, and forget about anything actually fun like shotguns.
@nathanenns7690
@nathanenns7690 3 месяца назад
Sorry if I missed this in a previous video - but when was it found that "thorax" coverage soft armor covers certain areas EXCEPT under the plate? I was under the impression that "thorax" had always indicated an area that included under the plate, not specifically excluding it. That was certainly what I had gathered from your "stop using class 2 soft armor" video which discussed at length how "thorax" soft armor is objectively the best option due to layering under the plate as well as covering some area around it, compared to f. Plate which exclusively layered under the plate. Was this subject to a change, or have I been doing the math wrong for months now?
@markosz22
@markosz22 3 месяца назад
People keep parroting the "organ system" that would have fixed all issues. Knowing BSG it would have been a broken system they would have had to work on for 5 years and still end up with a way more random, unrealistic gameplay, since non-organ hits would just be a bullet sponge or people would whine about 1-shot organ hits. Too much wound ballistics would have to be taken into account before such a system can work, such as the pressure wave, shock effect, bullet fragments, every bone collision in the body, etc.. Much better solution would have been: 1. Slightly increase the plate areas. 2. Since we already have more detailed hit areas, they should have different damage distributions across multiple body parts. For example arm pit shot = 50% arm, 50% thorax. 3. Change high-end HEAVY armours to have tier 4 soft armour. That way people would have to choose between heavy armour for more protections vs lighter armour for speed.
@lurtzy_
@lurtzy_ 3 месяца назад
So they made so that now there is armor where there isnt actually armor. Makes sense 😂 . Actually no it doesnt, because how the fuck are you gonna know the difference between vests. A small vest has the same protection area as a big one, like how the fuck does that make sense??? This update is shit. Why do the vests have different hitboxes than what they actually look like in game?
@superbodaciousflibbertigib8139
@superbodaciousflibbertigib8139 3 месяца назад
BSG’s reasoning was that in real life plates protect vital organs, and not the entire torso. In Tarkov getting shot in the shoulder hurts just as much as getting shot in the heart, so it is technically more realistic than the previous plate system, but I say to hell with realism. This does make gunplay feel more unfair to lower level players.
@jasontorres4052
@jasontorres4052 3 месяца назад
This is so terrible omfg. He rlly put the strandhog and the ugly green vest over the rbav rig Jesus this guy needs to stop making these
@rinsonator1668
@rinsonator1668 3 месяца назад
The mobility needs to be considered. The armor is plan B for me. I don’t wanna get shot anyway. Position and decision are 2 things that keep my SR high.
@ForTheJerusalem
@ForTheJerusalem 3 месяца назад
I love that it went make it more realistic>realise that without vital points it's shit>return it to forcefields but only for plates. Truly the greatest development team of all times.
@yeanisch
@yeanisch 3 месяца назад
Always something to complain about, huh? Be happy they're working at the game, fucking activision could learn a thing or two about that
@ForTheJerusalem
@ForTheJerusalem 3 месяца назад
@@yeanisch I will complain that a big studio is losing to a mod in terms of making smart development choices. It wasn't that hard to come to the simple conclusion without doing anything to the health system armor would be really bad now. So no, i will complain that battlestate games is doing a shitty job with their fantastic title, both with features in game and outside of the game.
@tysopiccaso8711
@tysopiccaso8711 3 месяца назад
@@ForTheJerusalem literally, MFS acting like we have to be content with the incompetent devs
@simonmoore8019
@simonmoore8019 3 месяца назад
@@yeanisch why shouldn't we complain when we finally got game at actually playable state this wipe with armor/recoil changes, and now we have to go back to high pen meta? The issue is not people endlessly complain, the issue that it finally felt good to play Tarkov and now it's all gone. Unless you just play on older SPT version.
@yeanisch
@yeanisch 3 месяца назад
@@simonmoore8019 it was fun for people who are worse at the game, but I can imagine high level players didn't feel the same way. Dying to a single well-placed armpit shot from a player scav has to suck.
@GumMonster1
@GumMonster1 2 месяца назад
The best armor is the heavy ones like Zabralo and specifically will always be Fort Zabralo because with Granit level 6 side plates and Cult Termite on the front and back it is the second most durability! (The most is the dev balaclava level 10 on all bodyparts :D only fall damage and grenades can kill you with it) The one and only major downside of its immense weight and impact on movement speed, turning speed, and ergo is entirely mitigated by simply popping copious amounts of Meldonin, Trimadol, and SJ-6 at the start of raid for fastest possible killing, 2A2-(b-TG) and 3-(b-TG) mid raid for fastest possible looting after all of the most unfair movement juggernaut onslaught killing, and a Obdolbos 2 Cocktail 🍸 with the Propitol and another SJ-6 and another Trimadol and Meldonin if you want. Funny shit starts to happen if you're like 100kg and sprinting to extract and stop suddenly with this Stimulant injector combo. It's like ice skating. For those of you who can't afford it every raid: try PvE as loot and roubles and gear and weapons are plentiful and so are the scavs and raiders for mass murder and killing! MUWAHAHAA The Combat Stimulant injector addicts understand this sentiment all too well.
@sudonickx
@sudonickx 3 месяца назад
It's wild that this armor change has made it so small rigs like the tv-110 actually have more armor coverage than full armor like the korund. Can't help but feel like it was rushed and just a knee jerk reaction. hope more issues dont pop up because of it.
@Skratzy
@Skratzy 3 месяца назад
Hopefully in the future we can see some trim to the hit boxes. I was enjoying being punished for my position than blaming my poor aim or armor, but casual is all good.
@Simtalnius
@Simtalnius 3 месяца назад
are you mentally deficient?
@superbodaciousflibbertigib8139
@superbodaciousflibbertigib8139 3 месяца назад
Let’s uhh… let’s collectively agree the Dr. Disrespect armor is f tier now…
@Lu_Kitsuray
@Lu_Kitsuray 3 месяца назад
I don't know... At this point the armor system kinda just starts to confuse me even more than it did before. I guess I kinda just have to come to the conclusion that hearing "Armor is more worth now" or less worth and kinda just stick with it. Honestly, not sure what to think about it that we return to a money-dumping meta now where the better ammo rules all. It always has been like this but with the last armor system, which was far away from perfect tho, it at least didn't feel too relevant.
@_Scipio
@_Scipio 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the explanation. Cant believe we got people cheering for the backwards progression. We waited for years to get the realistic plates. Now where are back to a similar meta that's been done before. Penetration is king again. We took two steps forward and one step back. We're going to have to wait until the next wipe when people start reaping what they have sowed in order to get some change. Ideally they would revert this dumbed down armor system change and implement a vitals hitbox. This change feels like a PR decision and not a game design decision. Precipitated by certain streamers tendency towards being angry and trashing the system after a death for engagement and views.
@Arutt95
@Arutt95 3 месяца назад
This is the shittest change theyve ever done, the armour rework was literally perfect
@superbodaciousflibbertigib8139
@superbodaciousflibbertigib8139 3 месяца назад
It wasn’t perfect, it could’ve used some updates imo but now it feels just like the old system. Now only a couple of guns are usable, and lower level players are at a disadvantage just as big as in the old system.
@snowio2592
@snowio2592 3 месяца назад
ik they're all really close towards the top but im so certain that s tier should still favor the protection for extra hitboxes. at the class 5-6 level armors, i just want to protect my neck and such from scav/bad rounds rather than have a thorax that might tank 1 extra bullet once every 10 raids
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
Imo neck is the only "really" important hitbox there - and it's so niche/small that I'd rather take the soft under the plate on the sides. The stats at the end show that it matters quite a bit against very popular bullets
@unrealistik2570
@unrealistik2570 8 дней назад
Thanks for all your hard work my bro
@GameKaps
@GameKaps 28 дней назад
Does this still apply in .15?
@noobovsky420
@noobovsky420 3 месяца назад
Called it at beginning of this wipe that the THOR was legit
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
Been using thor even prior to the rework - it's such a decent budget vest
@noobovsky420
@noobovsky420 3 месяца назад
@@Gigabeef now with the hit box changes it’s def going to be the beginning of wipe king of armour
@viperion_nz
@viperion_nz 3 месяца назад
I honestly feel like the re-vamped armour system is a step backwards, mostly because you can now (again) hit somewhere on the player model that is graphically not covered, but the phantom/magical armour plates wrap around and extend past the edges of the armour itself. I also think they'll catch the anomaly with the soft armours that don't have "Thorax" and "Upper Back"; again having armour that *doesn't* have "Thorax" being better at protecting your Thorax than one that does is weird and unintuitive. I suspect either they'll give *ALL* soft armours Thorax, Upper Back and Lower Back, or they'll change the hitbox of the "Thorax" zone on existing soft armours to match the profile of the Plate template (even if the armour doesn't have a plate). I do understand why they changed it - with the last system you could get shot in the shoulder and die immediately because your shoulder and your heart were the same hit point pool; I think a much better fix would have been to add more player model hit locations, and then have the armour plates protect the more vulnerable parts of your anatomy, like it does IRL. That's a massive rework of the entire hit-reg system though so I understand why they didn't do that. This "new" (it's really just the system from 0.13 with plates added) is just a lot more gamified and less realistic, and it means only the meta ammo is worth running again. I don't like it.
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
I think it swings too far the other way, but overall I think the game feels better for it
@francesco3772
@francesco3772 3 месяца назад
Your "massive rework" would mostly be about numbers, which are such a simple thing it would take a single person a couple of days of work to do it.
@viperion_nz
@viperion_nz 3 месяца назад
@@francesco3772 It absolutely WOULD NOT be "just about numbers". You'd have to redo the entire hitbox system and separate out the vital areas (e.g. heart) from the non-vital areas (e.g. shoulder).
@qumarsharis
@qumarsharis Месяц назад
@@viperion_nzcould just be a simple change as making a inner thorax and outer
@MegaNelsonX
@MegaNelsonX 3 месяца назад
For me, they’ve complicated armor mechanics too much. imagine removing a system where you just need to see the armor to understand where it can protect you and instead add a system where you have to do more research to understand which armor is the best. The best thing they could do was to change the functioning of the chest health with an internal and an external chest area, so as to always have the factor of the fast mortality in the center but enduring much more on the external one. I am more and more convinced that this recent update is a downgrade for the game but I always hope that BSG will continue its path and I hope that in the future they will add modded private servers for the various communities.
@NosterborSemaj
@NosterborSemaj 2 месяца назад
When you watch the 0.14 video, sell all your class 6 armors, then see there is a new video from 3 weeks ago where everything flips :) fml
@abdahergo9055
@abdahergo9055 3 месяца назад
Can someone explain me the explanation of why the TV-110 is better than the Korund, i dont get it
@noobovsky420
@noobovsky420 3 месяца назад
Well he answers that if you actually watched the video at 10:15
@abdahergo9055
@abdahergo9055 3 месяца назад
@@noobovsky420 yeah i saw it, but i dont understand
@johnklosterman7437
@johnklosterman7437 3 месяца назад
I love the summary at the end with the questions. That sums up how to view the armors and is very useful.
@Pilot--
@Pilot-- 3 месяца назад
If I'm honest I skimmed over to the priorities at the end but I really value neck protection from scav ammo, seems like that was somewhat missed. The Osprey (P) has been my pick for that reason earlier this wipe. I swap in GaC plates.
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
That is fair, I personally get shot in the neck by scavs extremely rarely. And players are always shooting M62/M856A1/CBJ/FMJ SX etc so you die in one shot anyway even through class 3 neck
@Pilot--
@Pilot-- 3 месяца назад
@@Gigabeef I seem to have a 7mm buckshot magnet in my neck
@17MrLeon
@17MrLeon 11 дней назад
Wait they removed the gabs in armor hitbox? That was actually realistic why did they remove it. That would people with pistol ammo had chance against armored enemies.
@pimbanabeica1843
@pimbanabeica1843 3 месяца назад
garbage update, went back to high pen ammo meta and removed any reason to use other types of ammo, such bandaid solution... The problem is the thorax hitbox how simple when taken damage, shoulder shot should not receive full damage of the bullet, should be reduced with a modifier of 0.90 or something. Even better then, they should look at what realism mod has done in SPT
@jonathanviera3466
@jonathanviera3466 3 месяца назад
I've been waiting for this since I saw you streaming
@Russell970
@Russell970 3 месяца назад
such a nerd oh my but thanks tho now gigachads gonna bully you more efficiently
@vonBelfry
@vonBelfry Месяц назад
Bunch of the S tier and A tier ones would be swapped in PvE mode because neck armor. Gotta mitigate that one aimbot shot the PMCs seem to take every 5-10 shots.
@WaterMeA-biscuit
@WaterMeA-biscuit 14 дней назад
An unpopular opinion is that armor in game doesn't matter as much, you'll still end up dying by bad caliber scavs somehow
@mn1907
@mn1907 3 месяца назад
BSG decided just to do hot fix its not good its same as used to be. They just need add small cube inside of pmc thorax (same as head/neck hp) size of plates. You still should be able to shoot it from the angles around the plate but shoots from front and back that miss the plate but hit the thorax not gonna kill you straight away act more or less like stomach. To get angle to penetrate the vital cube inside pmc thorax would be eay more dificult, then the whole plate system feels and act realistic how they intended, you less likely to die from random scav shoot and to kill someone with cheap ammo is not imposible but require way bigger angle of shooting or when person is moving fast and you able to get arm pit shoot that actualy goes trough inside cube hit box but not someone back
@АндрейМочалов-щ9р
@АндрейМочалов-щ9р 3 месяца назад
Yes, but W key warriors will still cry and bitch about it. They want to play as stupidly agressive as possible and not having any obivious downsides to that playstyle.
@mn1907
@mn1907 3 месяца назад
@user-qw3ny5bj7d True, I have feeling the biggest reason for cry is that people who spend 60 hours weekly in the game been killed by people who spend 10 hours per week in the game
@Cappa-Gaming
@Cappa-Gaming 3 месяца назад
Just been wating around for your video and i refreshed my page and bam Giga throws it out!
@jakobinboden3083
@jakobinboden3083 Месяц назад
Hey man, the highcom trooper armor is Class 4 UHMWPE, not Class 3 soft armor, unless that changed super recently
@CellTank
@CellTank 3 месяца назад
20:00 is the most constructive and poilite way I've ever heard someone way "Skill Issue" KEKW
@ShinXyres
@ShinXyres 3 месяца назад
I think you're more likely to die to those random scavs when you push locations harder. Neck armour might matter more to those people, whereas based on your end and str at 52 you seem to play more methodically and are probably more cautious with scavs.
@Simtalnius
@Simtalnius 3 месяца назад
no, youre just dogshit and coping
@bill1398
@bill1398 3 месяца назад
Respectively, I disagree with this tier list. Watched my buddy wearing the CPC Mod.1 take a neck shot and fold from a scav using US 5.45 last night while. Level 2 neck protection would have saved him. Same logic goes for lack of side protection. IMO, no neck or side protection, automatic boot to A-tier list. No both, B-tier max. We can argue the importance of level 2 or 3 on neck and side but carriers like the Slick are max B-tier IMO.
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
If you're worried about scavs killing you then that's fair. Side I think is less valid as the stomach doesn't one shot you, and it has no bearing on the thorax
@BBMILITIA13224
@BBMILITIA13224 3 месяца назад
The CPC was my favorite budget armor for PVP. They used to be 67k (vendor price) but now they are 200k. Thanks a lot GB, haha. Also, how important are side plates? I end up repairing my side plates almost as much as my front plate so I feel like they are very important, but if they only protect the stomach then I guess they don't really matter that much.
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
I really like having them, which is why I end up using the AACPC. They are huge now so I do like them a lot - but not at the cost of worse thorax protection
@Omni_Actual
@Omni_Actual 2 месяца назад
I always learn something when I come here. You are an invaluable asset to the Tarkov community.
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 2 месяца назад
Thanks :) appreciate ya!
@spencerdille187
@spencerdille187 3 месяца назад
First you took away my CPCM1 now you inflate my TacTec aswell. Keep this shit to youself
@NukeOverlord
@NukeOverlord Месяц назад
I'm disappointed that the heaviest armors didn't get buffed to tier 4 aramid. Useless garbage once again
@maloiik
@maloiik 26 дней назад
this is so much good info, tyvm gigabeef most informative and helpful tarkov content out there
@Nick-tl7ts
@Nick-tl7ts 3 месяца назад
lol enjoy dying to buckshot scavs with thos "S" tier armors, also no stomach, actually terrible
@jonnreymantalaba6610
@jonnreymantalaba6610 10 дней назад
How the hell did the HexGrid fall this low, I thought it was the same as the slick back then.
@Acepilot235
@Acepilot235 3 месяца назад
imo neck hit box needs to gtfo. The amount of time's I've died to that bullshit to ai is absolutely stupid.
@chidori0117
@chidori0117 3 месяца назад
Great an intuitive change by BSG to make armor with less armored area displayed in the tooltip functionally better due to how it is coded....
@MegaNelsonX
@MegaNelsonX 3 месяца назад
For me, they’ve complicated armor mechanics too much. imagine removing a system where you just need to see the armor to understand where it can protect you and instead add a system where you have to do more research to understand which armor is the best. The best thing they could do was to change the functioning of the chest health with an internal and an external chest area, so as to always have the factor of the fast mortality in the center but enduring much more on the external one.
@anonimdog
@anonimdog 3 месяца назад
A lot of yapping 👎
@ForkMyDongle
@ForkMyDongle Месяц назад
Im only 20 hours in the game and you go girl calling out those casuals not being able to dodge neck shots!
@evanboland1220
@evanboland1220 3 месяца назад
BSG is so incompetent they made one of the best changes ever to this game only to roll it back and make the game shit again.
@YNorth
@YNorth 23 дня назад
i dont get why the hpc is not as good as the slick besides the soft armor on the plate, the plate itself is the same size on the hpc no?
@ElMerzXD
@ElMerzXD 2 месяца назад
imo you should do a tierlist from tier 2 to 6 instead of putting everything in a single chart.
@Siply
@Siply Месяц назад
How does this hold up in PVE? Anyone know what the better options are?
@xr3la
@xr3la 3 месяца назад
Although I agree that the tierlist is well done, I still can't comprehend how so many people (the vocal bit at least) are satisfied with this system. Like, it's not even about hitboxes anymore. The current durability system was designed to make plates tank far more when they actually got hit. When extended to the full body coverage this gives absurd amounts of defense. I think that they should be nerfed significantly. Only today I had a guy with Osprey Assault with stock alu plates tank 460 damage from a Veresk with BT ammo. This literally renders this weapon and many others useless for no reason, the guy should drop dead even from blunt damage. And let's not forget you need 20 kills with that thing for Test Drive 2, and Zubilo rounds (the ones capable of piercing class 4) are literally nowhere to be found. I think that at the very least the plate durability should be reduced by like 30% at least, maybe making class 3 soft armor exclusive to the likes of Defender and Gen4 assault armors could be nice to encourage using them. But some changes are needed, the armors are too OP right now, this is hella overkill and not needed to keep them viable.
@colinschwiethale2375
@colinschwiethale2375 3 месяца назад
In fairness that's an issue with the nerf to bt ammo. Last wipe bt ammo would've ripped that armor.
@xr3la
@xr3la 3 месяца назад
@@colinschwiethale2375 well yeah, in case of this particular ammo yeah. But overall, now even 7.62x54R BT doesn't guaranee penetrating class 5 with soft 3 behind it on second shot, let alone the first. Armor needs to be nerfed no matter what, 90% of ammo is useless against even class 4+3 now, rendering most weapons unviable, in a wipe with the healthiest meta in history before this change.
@MONKAY_MAN69
@MONKAY_MAN69 3 месяца назад
dont use shit ammo?
@evanboland1220
@evanboland1220 3 месяца назад
the plates prior to this change were perfect, the game has literally never felt better and then they just ruin it and go back to armor making you an invincible tank again
@SauceyCos
@SauceyCos 3 месяца назад
@@evanboland1220 it felt great because you got to abuse using dog rounds and shooting spots that shouldnt be considered soft armor. You shooting someone in the top right shoulder shouldnt be counting to the thorax. 1 shot near the armpit means you kill me? it was dog. Great concept. poorly executed.
@Tsunami1LV
@Tsunami1LV 10 дней назад
Bro really said "if you get killed by scavs, skill issue"
@timvenus5186
@timvenus5186 3 месяца назад
It’s Dr D not DRD. Watch your mouth when your talking bout the two time 😂
@Tman2bard
@Tman2bard 3 месяца назад
the two time has been who cheated on his wife and cried on stream for sympathy? Yeah, no.
@framekixrr
@framekixrr 2 месяца назад
And now he’s a pedo 🤣🤣
@arcadeslum5882
@arcadeslum5882 3 месяца назад
If it doesn’t have neck / throat protection it’s garbage.
@davidj1-633
@davidj1-633 Месяц назад
Is this still the same for the current wipe or has it changed?
@EveEudora-g6l
@EveEudora-g6l 14 дней назад
Taylor Donald Young Linda Hernandez Kevin
@irakatski
@irakatski 3 месяца назад
It's Chewsday
@rootbeer2399
@rootbeer2399 3 месяца назад
The UNTAR is selling for SOO much on PVE right now for some reason.
@Gigabeef
@Gigabeef 3 месяца назад
Probably quest requirements I would guess
@mackwon8908
@mackwon8908 3 месяца назад
In PVE It's better to use armor that protects your chin 😂
@jikjak8505
@jikjak8505 21 день назад
All you did was put them in order by plate level
@gaiamission7200
@gaiamission7200 Месяц назад
ever since the change I swear by armor with neck protectors, my group typically uses osprey protections, it has some extraneous arm protection and weight, but I would prefer the neck protector to mitigate some of the threat of SMGs and buckshot, as well as various lucky shots. it falls off as opponent ammo improves, but remains useful in my opinion, stack that with class 5 or 6 and you have high protection overall with minimal downsides
@danielknapman8762
@danielknapman8762 3 месяца назад
People complaining about realism probably don’t play much. At the end of the day “it’s a game” it’s not real. These are great quality of life changes to the “game”. If you have been killed by the fun armpit you would understand. This game is a mixture of realism and again a “game”. Great changes to improve the overall experience imo.
@lemon777r
@lemon777r 2 месяца назад
ANA M2 imo is the best budget and lightweight rig/armor combo. its only 2.25kg. Thor + thunderbolt has 2 slots less and is 2.32kg, and is of course more expensive to run too. I do think the ars arma CPC is as good as it gets at 2.75 kg for 23 slots and the slightly better protection as you went over, I could not find a single combination using the thor + 20 or higher slot rig that was as light. If weight matters it seems its best to stick to armored rig combos that come with slots, even using the lightest of the best armors (thor) it's still much heavier than the good armored rig combos like the ars arma cpc, and ana m2.
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