Full Dive VR Is on Its Way! ....But Who Will Bring It? 

Not sure, but it is tempting

Until it becomes available for entertainment purposes most likely the ones who get it for medical reasons will have been wearing it for a couple more years. So you have enough time to make a choice.

@@NokutoVR thats good at least, mighty underrated channel you got here btw. I enjoyed this video

@@rx4_ever886 Thanks!

@@NokutoVR yeah no problem bro!

Hello man! I hope you'll be accepted for the Neuralink trials. I can't wait to see what they have learned together with Nolan and what improvement they can bring to future patient's implants. On the other hand, it is an entire philosophical debate about uploading yourself into a device even if we could do it. Would that be the same you, or a copy of all your memories while the real you has been disintegrated in the process? For now, we can only wait to see what the future will bring.

Same. Even if it comes when I'm 85, as long dementia doesn't take me until then I will be there to roleplay Gandalf until my last breath :))).

Most likely the first breakthrough of BCIs towards full dive will be during the periods when we are naturally asleep and they can take advantage of that stage of rem sleep. After that, it will take some more time until they figure out a way to induce the Rem sleep whenever we want. A headset may appear even later. Because for a non-invasive device to do the same things as an invasive one, Its technology needs to be more advanced.

The problem with having a wet suit or exoskeleton is that most people will be too lazy to fully equip themselves every time they want to play. We need something relatively small and easy to use like the Nervegear for this approach to even get popular.

Thanks for the info. I will check out the podcast, and I may be interested in the book as well, but I've been lazy with my reading recently. Man 2030's are nothing. If he proves to be true I will build him a statue😅.

@@NokutoVR You’re welcome! Another info is that I remember Elon Musk commending Ray Kurzweil for his prediction on AGI (2029). Why this is relevant? It is because AI will play a significant role in neural VR from production to running the simulations and especially in making full sensory immersion (aka FullDive) a reality. We lack data about the Brain, all we need is significant amounts of data to make neural vr a possibility with the help of AI and these BCI companies now moving into human trails all line up with Ray’s predictions!

You are making my day better and better. I mean, for a truly immersive VR World we also need NPCs smart enough to hold a decent conversation and act like they have actual feelings. I think AGI will be the key to this as well.

@@NokutoVR haha and yes, npcs will actually feel more real than ever!

​​@@Kitora_SuMaybe AGI will come sooner than you think

Welcome on board, and thank you for the compliment😃

I hope they will do it faster, as healthy as I try to live, it will be a challenge for me to still be around for 60 more years :)))

I just saw today a vlog from the first Neuralink patient in which he presented the app that helps him play games using the BCI. He is pioneering the way towards our dreams🤣.

I'll most likely dich it as well. In my opinion, the question is not if it will become immersive enough, but whether we will still be around when it happens.

it’s ok bro ur probably not even that ugly it’s just how u view ur self

@@capolean2902 Thanks for spreading the positive vibes!

Now that you mention it. I never thought of this problem. Even if the procedure becomes faster and safer because of devices like the one that implants the neurolink. We still need to consider the monetary and physical cost of doing this procedure as often as once every 2 - 3 years and how easy or hard it will be to replace the outdated parts without damaging the brain. I can't think of a solution, so I will just hope that people smarter than me will find a reliable way.

@@NokutoVR Elon Musk has aknowledged this issue in an interview, and is aiming to develope the neuralink in a way that will make replacing it as easy and safe as possible.

@@Silverxlx Let's hope he manages to find it, but even if the neurolink will be modular with a "dock" of some kind that can stay in your head permanently and and an upgradable part that can get extracted easily, there will still come a time when you will need to replace the "dock" itself. But hopefully it will be at a longer interval like 10-15 years.

Hell yeah. See you in VR when they become released for the general public

I respect your choice.

For now, the best I can do is stalk Elon and Gabe on the internet. But one day it will happen.

I never thought about the possibility of reliving memories to see an alternative choice. You have big dreams, but it may be interesting if it proves to be possible. At the same time, it may bring a new wave of depressed people if the alternative outcome predicted by VR turns up to be much better the the reality the person chose.

@@NokutoVR i personally think most people will get over it, most of us do have boring lives and jobs, fdvr will bring way more happiness to people than sorrow, you could have experiences you cannot irl, live out all your fantasies, in some aspects it will be better than real life, il turn off sunburns, getting tired and getting sweaty and dirty in the fdvr sim, being clean 24/7 something impossible made possible since we are more or less god in these fdvr simulations.

Thinking more about this, you are right. Most people will get over it. Because the majority of people who normally enter depression in similar situations, this time will choose to completely give up on reality and will satisfy all their wishes in that world.

​@@NokutoVR im a month late but yes exactly, depressed people will get all their wishes come true in fdvr, people will not care that it's all fake when it feels real, and also you could do stuff thats not possible, magic, shapeshifting, defying logic etc, you have people paying for skins in various current games, it's not real but people obviously get some joy from it.

​@@isakisak9989 I really wonder how you remembered a comment from last month when I have problems remembering some of the videos I watched a couple of days ago.😅 Well maybe it's just me having a goldfish memory.

Same

It depends on how optimistic you want to be. With the speed of technology and AI is advancing recently which will only grow faster, I will like to hope that we will se something at least close in 15-20 years at the latest.

If that really happens I will most likely settle on fishing every day like that old man in SAO. Or open a pet and mount shop :))

Welcome to the club!

We'll go together, maybe we will get a discount🤣

I understand that putting a chip in your brain just for the sake of playing video games is a little extreme for most people. But in my opinion, whether we get a chip in our brain or not, as able-bodied people, will come much sooner than a video game that will use this kind of technology. Because no one will make a game if there are just a couple of people with the hardware to access it. There is still the possibility that we will take another approach towards full dive VR, such as nanobots that will be injected in us initially for medical reasons or a soundwave-based headset.

I can bet that in a short interval after someone figures out full dive, another person will find a way to use it for this kind of... let's call it "entertainment". The main reason is that using this kind of desire of men is one of the most profitable indursties in the world.

@@NokutoVR i can see that happening and as a teenager i would lowkey maybe wanna try something like that out. But imagine the shame 😭

I know what you mean, but this didn't stop the other products and services in this niche from becoming popular and making a lot of money. And where there is demand, there will be a provider soon enough.

@@NokutoVR yeah i bet

@@NokutoVR I didn't mean specifically the sex part, having a near complete physical presence in the game world is what I was talking about, and all it took was one little peripheral that you stick on your temple.

I'm not saying the Rift S wasn't an important step in the innovation of VR technology, but because of a couple of reasons, was not as attractive to the general consumer. The biggest, in my opinion, was that it requires a gaming-ready PC in order to work, and most people probably didn't have it. The price was 100 $ higher wich made some people question if it is worth, for them, to buy such an expensive entertaining device. And the fact that it has gone back to 80 hz refresh rate may have repeled even some previous VR entuziasts.

@@NokutoVR Completely agree with you and have no issues with your choice.

+1 point for the VR Worlds

I'm not saying there are no risks nor do I say I hate real life. But since it will not allow me to fly on the back of a dragon, use powerful magic, or fight a building-sized monster with a rusty sword, I can only put my hopes in VR.

@@NokutoVR I like the sound of those things too, but if it requires you to give up that much to scoundrels, it will never be worth it. It's more akin to cowardice & willful ignorance that leads one to such a decision. There are far greater reasons to fight for, & live by than entertainment on its own, one of those reasons include the standard of freedom I'd leave to my children & generations of the future. I will not leave them more chains, I will not let them be cattle, I've learned the horrors of this way of thinking & it's revolting. While I'll stand on my hill & die there, entertainment & fantasy on its own is human. To have access to a non invasive, less potentially mind altering, relatively risky free form of it, then that's a more reasonable path to take in my eyes. I love life more, & feel responsibility for the people I love, than continued distraction by those who wish nothing more than to feed me & my own poison to enslave us, which will only lead to doom, not an escape from reality.

@@Cam-opener Then let's hope that a genius will appear and prove that non-invasive BCI is the better choice for the future of VR.

@@NokutoVR That sounds better yes, at least as far as can tell currently.👍

I respect your opinion, but as you can probably tell from the content on this channel, I don't share it. There are infinite ways we can destroy ourselves as a species. Full Dive VR can be a double-edged sword, but I still want to experience it and hope it will bring more good than bad things.