There is merit to it though, the list is a decent indicator for how good a unit is, it doesn't need to be 100% accurate. Sure, there will be some edge cases but >generally< speaking I don't care if a unit is in C or F tier, the bottom half of the list is not worth building - ESPECIALLY not if you're a new or early game player.
@@ShyDream_ Some of those units like Lupinus wouls actually be good to build for new players, so the 2nd half of your comment isnt quite true. Atenai can also be a good healer if youre lacking. And Julien is a stun master.
Bagel, I and I believe many people watching your video would love to see your personal tier lists for this units. As an experienced player, you have a good understanding of many units especially since you've gone out of your way to build wacky comps.
I hope you can do a nat 5 one as well! These videos have been great for beginners but also people like me that are coming back after years wanting to know what’s good!
Very informative - and very depressing. ;) I'm just comparing it to my monster list and going "... no... no... no, no... okay, that one I have... no, no, no... ... " Better luck in a few months. XD
14:52 He really wants his dark robo untouched it’s his baby😂. Dark Robo is strong in everything siege, arena, rta, lab, and Toa he doesn’t want him getting a nerf, GASLIGHTING US. (I would’ve done the same lol)
It seems water jack o lantern is super underrated. His whole kit is useful. Back to back revenge/buff steal/heal is hilarious to watch counter feng yan, woosa, and laika teams.
@@surr3ald3sign it's not a full counter, but he is useful against him. Stealing revenge buff is op for chilling. Maybe you need a better runed chilling? 😂
I'm surprised to see Xiao Lin ranked so mid, she is so useful everywhere (especially rifts, at least back in the day). I'm still working on kro after tricaru tho...
You should make a mention on the poll in your most recent video. I usually watch on the PC and sometimes the community posts don't show up normally, so I miss most of them even though I'd love to contribute. And we can see the submissions are not as prevalent. Responses will go up if you mention the poll on your vid =)
Just wanted to share after watching your videos for forever and playing this game for 9 years (on and off) I got my first LD 5 today - Lydia (dark polar queen). I was watching yesterdays summons and got lucky so thank you for all you do Jubi and to the rest of you veterans with no LD 5 I wish you luck!
Some points I wanted to share while watching: Jojo the fire bomber deserves to be in F. The problem with bombers is you can only have so many before you max out your team. This wasn't as much of a problem, due to their only being him, and two of the kobold bombers with bombs as normal element 4 stars, but he was still the worst. if you needed 3 bombers, for toa hard, then you could use him. Now that his brother has bombs, and there have been multiple 5 star families to get bombs, he will not be used over something else. Kunite the fire gargoyle is actually very useful to those starting to build towards tricaru, but missing some stats. You can build him with determination runes and make him the fastest, and he will not be teamed up with, so wont steal the icarus skill cooldowns. Wouldnt say he is anywhere above C tier tho, he is an aweful unit. Jarret the wind poison master is much worse than Mellia. He seems similar in that he does dots, but it isn't a passive, and his first skill is just a stun. Also, his third skill, an aoe 3 hit 80% 2 turn dot is ok, but mellia has a shorter cooldown on her aoe. Mellias is also a att bar reduce and spead break, whereas Jarrets is a stun.
Songseol is great. I use her in non rta pvp and she shuts down all def that relies on buffs. No woosa, no riley, no khmun, no stacks for odin, etc etc. It's great. And fire horus on destroy is pretty effective at shutting down defs relying on passives because he simple doesnt die, Water anubis sneezes and perna disappears. I rarely use garo because most things are on violent or everything has multi hit skills. He can kill and stunn effectively but he simply doesn't survive against most things
THANK YOU. Love seeing new tier lists. I have to say Garo is probly a SS unit. I almost never lose with my Garo fire twin teams both offense and defense. I use this team in area and again almost never lose. I built three teams and they plow through the 4 star towers. I know you knock Garo but he is amazing.
You mentioned water lich and water hypno meow as very underrated. Can you give an example of who you paired them with and what siege defense you attack with them?
Fire speed leads rank high because one gives enough speed for lower runed players to compete in guild offense using fire twins for example, and the other is a full-on tank with a regular shield and general speed lead. I have a few years of play time under my belt and only just this week pulled my first 5* speed lead.... water angels.... yay? :/
I aint gonna lie, Jojo is absolutely F tier. He's usable if you want a horrendously gimped bomber . His bombs do squat, his S1 is eh, and he doesn't bring dots, he brings a SINGULAR DOT on his S3. His whole S3 is just a single AoE dot and it's on 4 turns of cooldown. He's less bomber and more delayed stun unit with a 4 turn cooldown to apply 1 dot.
Ty very much bagel but plz say that this a pvp mainly list 😉 I kno community list but unless stated yur lists have mainly been pve 🖤🖤. Not a huge deal I just was lil confused. No mention of any dungeons etc.😢. Ty for the great vid as always ✌🏿
Ik it’s good that we could enable f2p players, but for the love of god Liu mei is wack. She’s HoH yet she outperforms Iris which was annoying enough. Now to see her constantly in siege is just lame af.
Basically anything are and above A are good, B tier is like "I mean he/she does ____ but still..." and below are mostly unusable. There is some exceptions but C tier is niche units and D and below are dogsheet
The reason the ratings are so wack is bc atleast 70% of the players rating these things arent even c1 basic arena... they dont do siege with any kind of tactic they jsit throw shit are defenses and hope they win. They dont have the runes to properly build ANY of these units and they often dont understand WHAT makes a unit good in most of these cases bc they dont understand why other things are good in pvp content they just know they are
nah dark robo is definitely triple S over martina, he's more useful than she is in most content and he's a top 10 monster in RTA. but he will probably be nerfed in this BP or the one after.
Yeah I didnt even know the community thing existed until I saw something randomly on my phone years after it came out. RU-vid shoved shorts in my face but kept actual interaction hidden like gold
Big fan. I watch most of your videos. Every now and then, you are brainstorming content, and tier lists are a superb idea. You should do a series of just tier lists. Examples: 4 🌟 Siege, 4 🌟 RTA, 4 🌟 Arena, and last, but not least, 4 🌟 overall tier list. That gives you four videos of at least 15 to 20 minutes each. Be thorough. Then, you can do another four videos on 5 🌟 units. You might think we don't appreciate your expertise, but we do. Please consider doing these eight videos and thanks for all the content and entertainment you provide.
Kamiya(Dark nine tails) is a great counter for all the annoying counter-attackers. S2 sleeps an enemy without attacking so it doesn't proc counterattack passives. S3 is huge damage and irresistable stun on crit. I've been using her to deal with things like douglas, verde, water hbc and wind monkey. I would put her in S tier at minimum. Too bad Special League is disqualifying LDs. Back to storage she goes.
Fudge on Vio/Rev is busted imo. I mean, Vamp/Rev is good for him too, but it's beautiful when those debuffs hit lol. I rune him SPD/HP/HP with speed and accuracy in subs.
I guess my Gin works because I would put him up there with some of the best LD 4’s. Now that I have Pontos, just wait for 20 star special league. Edit: I’m also not that high on dark robo. I don’t think mine works so it balances out I guess.
Wind sam's crazy now, ya didn't have to do him so dirty man. Has the same skill as sekhmet but instead of reducing the cd of his own skills, he violent procs... And he does it alot, cuz you can go s3 proc sword of the supreme sky wolf, into s2 into proc passive, into s1 proc passive, into s2 proc passive back to s3 again. Crazy stuff.
Aarang used to be a Premium GB10 Unit. could almost solo nuke the Giant with a good damage set. Now she has become completely useless because for what ever reason C2U also nerfed these girls, when they were already on the brink of existence. But I am surprised to see the Wind Madeleine Cookie that low. Because on a decent set, he can deal some damage himself too and he gives not too bad buffs + gauge either. okay 15% gauge is low, compared to other units, but he is not a bad unit, I think he deserves a little bit more credit than C.. Dark Gargoyle and Phantomthief are btw REALLY good in 4* Special League!
Probably wont be seen, but I would value your ranking on these mons. Perhaps if you also took the poll but your vote weighed more but not majority. Some way we can also get your thoughts.
I can't believe I forgot about Garo vs Akroma I just beat that level after like 30 tries of other things I thought would work. I could have just got the Chloe down and then auto ed argh.
More realistic: SSS Tier:Tablo,Liu Mei. SS:Lushen,Dark Robo,Iliana,Iris. S: Dark Sniper,Kaki,Dark Trevor,Light Trevor. Those at least needed to be changed. People are smoking.
People weight different areas of the game differently. You probably mostly give weight to rta, but some people do not do rta at all. For example, I own Giana. I don't use Giana. For me, she is like C tier. I'm sure she is amazing in rta, but I don't care about rta. About the only place I use her is a toa hell stage where everyone starts with a buff.
My fire ninja has runes on it strictly for the akorma level in ToA(H) ha! I was so happy when I found out about that strat. It was the only level holding me back from finishing TOA for the longest time
... Fuco was my first 6 star and still my rep for all pve level grinding. He has 2 stages that can take him out through rng (my shit resistance) I guess the time for him to pull is more than anyone will take.
I did start the survey, didn't even get through fire, thinking how long this survey would take and ended by clearing what I had done. It will take less time for me to view Bagel's result vid than my participation.
Im here for the fact that you dont know that the nisha strip is 100% chance to happen, it does not fail and I wonder why people arent talking about her more
