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I use battery save mode. When I'm driving long distances so that uses gas at highway speeds and I switch it to EV while doing in town driving or stop and go traffic.
Thank you for posting this video! I pulled the trigger and signed and drove mine home tonight. '24 GC Trailhawk White/black two-tone. Other initial impressions: This is a dynamic vehicle. Luxurious, aggressive/off road look and feel... and fast. 375 hp/470 lb. ft. torq. felt much faster than I envisioned. Thank you again for this great video. It's great to know that there's no loss on HP/torque when the battery is at zero charge.
Great video! Love my 2021 4Xe Rubicon and 2022 4Xe Grand Charokee SR! The SR night vision system is so worth it! Battery charge would only be done if you are on way to a trail with no charger, and you want a full battery to go wheeling. Otherwise start trip in battery save. I use Max Regen braking in town where the start and stop captures energy, but on highway turn off to coast further. FYI- Wrangler 4Xe Fan channel showed the brake light does come on when Max regen is slowing vehicle to warn folks behind you. For me, after software updates, it did seem less “clunky” on transition to gas. Yep, if you want a 4x4, and your daily commute is say 50- 60 miles with no charging at work, 4Xe is not for you. Get a Diesel Wrangler for a more consistent 28mpg. If you have a lot of short trips, and level 2 chargers and home and work, it’s a fun addition to the garage.
Thanks for the comments! Yes, the brake light will come on, but it's not always as ideal as we'd hope. I agree with your comment about max regen on the highway. Thanks for your comments - Happy 4xe-ing ;)
I love my vehicle. I do a lot of highway driving and it has saved me on fuel. I do approximately 49 miles one way to work. In that 49 miles, about 10-15 miles of it can be done on electric only. I toggle between 'hybrid' and 'e-save'. When I use e-save on the highway, I'm usually able to get about 2-5 miles back for electric. So at 100% battery, I might have 25 miles, but after I drive, I might end with 29 miles. The 'e-save' function will use battery from time-to-time if the powerband makes sense in your drive to use electric only. So even though I'm driving roughly 100 miles total, to and from my job (once-twice a week), I'm really only doing about 60 miles of gas per week. If I'm driving in-town, I'm not even touching the gas. So I really only have to fill my vehicle up once a month with fuel. I also own a 2013 Volkswagen TDI. I can get about 525 miles in that vehicle. In the Jeep, I'm getting almost equivalent.
Great review! We love our GC 4xe trail hawk . The way it was explained to me is the system reserves 15kwh for all electric driving and holds onto the other 2kwh to allow headroom for regen braking to work when battery is at 100% to protect from an overcharge situation, and to always have some power in the queue in hybrid mode. Math adds up with a level 2 charger at 32 A/ 7.2KWh takes a bit over 2h to charge. Friend of mine has the wrangler 4xe, he loves his too.
You're right, typically you would not use battery charge. However, a good example of using this is if you know you're going into a mountainous region, you want to make sure there's plenty of battery to assist with long climbs.
We chose a 4xe base over a limited, as the $7500 plus other rebates put the pricing right there with a limited. But the 4xe base comes standard with the panoramic sunroof, passenger screen, and the better radio, making it a better buy in our opinion.
@@JeepsOnTheRunwe just leased a base 4xe (grand cherokee) with massive discounts that made it a great deal (March ‘24). Previous Jeep was a ‘21 GC-L w/ the 3.6L. So far I really like the 4xe, just hope to have no issues with it as some of the comments online are a little scary but I guess time will tell. Great video!
Great video! Plug-in hybrids seem to make a lot of sense so long as you have a home charger. I recently had a Volvo XC90 plug-in as a press car for a week, and finding a charger while out-and-about was very hard to do and often times not worth it. Otherwise I think they're great! Thanks for the in-depth review!
100% agree. These really benefit from being able to charge, and charge often. That's where you come out ahead. Having a home charger makes all the difference in the world in obtaining the full benefits .
Maybe but the Wrangler is one of THE worst plug in hybrids you can buy. They don't get anywhere near 25 mpg and you WILL have a battery failure or two. I've watched hours of videos from Jeep hybrid owners and not one likes their vehicle because they have so many problems.
2022 GC 4XE owner... Not sure if it's the same with the '23, but there were a lot of complaints about mode transition in the first few hundred miles before things appeared to smooth out. Also, if you get a chance next time you drive the GC 4XE, drop it into sport mode, and it feels even quicker since the ICE will already have been starting and idling, ready to go. No need for an engine startup reaction when you floor it.
I hardly charge mine and take long trips. I love it. 95% of the time it drives like a normal car. The other 5% you do get some burps, coughs and hiccups. Still love it over my previous GC with a regular ice engine/powertrain. The torque and overall power is impressive. Fun to drive.
Great video Questions if you don't have the answers it's ok. Say you run out of battery can the jeep kinda recharge it self driving around ? With hybrid mode will you still get that quick take off power like it claims with electric ? like is it all one system. I understand with gas only probably not. Just say it's hard to charge this often like you live in a neighborhood with houses where it's hard to put a plug outside and charge where you can. Can this jeep run with no charge at all and somewhat charge it self while driving some what per say. Would this require dealer service for like special brakes and rotors since the Regen braking system. Thanks for answering my questions.
You can recharge the battery from the internal combustion engine, but the effecincy to do so really doesn't make sense to do so. It's a plug in hybrid, so a little different than a standard hybrid. Honestly, in every mode (even dead battery) you'll always get the full power. Yes. The brake system as far as maintenence goes is the same, not special pads etc. The brake system is what they call blended brakes. When you push the pedal, you'll activate the hydraulic brake syetem (like any other vehicle) but you'll also get the benifits of the electric motors regenerating and slowing the vehicle down too. These brakes will likely last a lot longer than a non 4xe for this reason.
You can run the Jeep without a charge, the only loss will be those electric miles. You can use the engine to charge, but from a savings standpoint it makes no sense. If you can't charge it... Just drive it like a normal jeep :) Thanks for watching! Thanks for the questions.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jvtL90mduG4.html This video (while it's a Wrangler) goes into a lot of technical info that would cross over to the grand cherokee too.
Thanks for this. I am looking at trading in my 2014 GC Summit for a 2023 Trailhawk. I have been kind of wary of the implementation but this helps a lot. The turbo 4 was not too big of a deal as it is almost as powerful as the current V6 anyway. I am getting ~20 to 21 mpg with my V6 on the highway these days, but it has some topo in the drive one way and the other way is flat and I get ~23 anyway. For me, my usage would be like your wife's and we have charging in the parking garage across the street, but there a lot of EV's there too. But I could use battery on the way in and gas on the way home. Probably could use battery around town for errands and the like.
Sounds like you're on the right track - also sounds like your a good candidate for the 4xe Platform. I know this isn't a Grand, but this info might be helpful in your decision on a 4xe as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jvtL90mduG4.html
I don't know how to go about the max regeneration. My dealer told me it's best to keep it in that mode, but it drives me crazy! Do the drivers behind me see the braking? I feel like it goes from 45 to 10 in literally 1 second. It's like brake checking people.
It really depends on the roads and situation if it's best on or not. I will say the more you drive it, the more you'll be very smooth with the way it works. Yes - when in re-gen mode it does provide brake lights. Thanks for watching!!
@@JeepsOnTheRun I was hoping the brake lights showed - that’s nice. It’s just something I’ll have to get used to, especially to preserve my precious 28 miles lol.
@@xCOWxTIPPERx it's a little learning curve. Sometimes you'll coast better with it off (improving mpg) and sometimes it's helps put power back on. Either way I think it's very negligible on the big image. Definitely helps on brake pads! :)
Great video! In the video you say that when the battery is depleted you still have full power. How does that work? Doesn't the full power depend on both battery and internal combustion? It seems that once the battery is depleted you only have half the power with the internal combustion. Help me please.
The way the battery is 'programed' to work. There is a reserve of you will. It's a little bit of magic too ;). Even when the battery shows 0% on the dash you'll have all fill power of the electric and gas together. Yes, even if you never charge it this WI be true.
We are buying one tomorrow. The Mrs drives 11 miles to work at the hospital and 11 back then charging while she sleeps for 8-12 hours. Should she be using the electric mode every time she drives? Or if the battery is charged will it prioritize the battery “more” in hybrid mode? Thus allowing us the maximum fuel savings. I will get her v6 18mpg highlander to use the once a month when I need it.
She will be able to commute her route on electric. When in hybrid mode, the Jeep will always prioritize electric mode. If you don't have a level 2 charger, keep in mind it's a 14 hour recharge time. perfect vehicle for that commute!! If she can charge AT work, even better!! :)
@JeepsOnTheRun sweet thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. For some reason, I was thinking that to get the amazing fuel economy, she would have to poke the electric button and drive like a snail, but as long as she departs on a full charge she should be good to go.
@@Stokesman101 Yep. Even in hybrid mode it will always error to electric. Now if she's a lead foot, and the vehicle demands more power, it will bring in the ICE (internal combustion engine) for that power surge.
I was fortunate to snag this when I had Jeeps On The Run at the Chicago Auto Show. The team at Jeep wore these, and he was nice enough to hand off a few to myself and my family. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gQRD7Til3zo.htmlsi=J_l7lT3whkZGnKqF
I did have a video clip of it, but all you could see was the reflection of the glass. I'll post a link to it. www.raycdjr.com/new/Jeep/2023-Jeep-Grand+Cherokee+4xe-3f6873b80a0e0a923ec2b8fc2742e63a.htm
Great video! two things holding me back from a 4xe Wrangler or GC; First, the all electric range seems pretty dismal compared to the competition, and second, the price is outrageous! There isn't a jeep on the planet I'd pay 70k for, especially since the wrangler doesn't come with some features that really should be standard at that price point.
@@JeepsOnTheRun I ended up with a fully loaded '23 Rav4 Prime for 52k that's rated at 42 mi of range, almost double what Jeep is offering on both their PHEVs. Most other PHEVs have a very comparable battery pack in terms of size and yet most offer 30+ mi while the Wrangler is only at 22.
Good video. But IMNSHO Jeep really messed up by not pairing that electric engine with a V6. They basically went with the cheapest option that would BARELY be adequate. Had they done similar to what Porsche, Land Rover, and now Toyota did, they'd have a vehicle that was very compelling to former V8 owners along with existing V6 and new potential buyers. Many have seen what Toyota did with the 2023 Sequoia and it's iForce MAX hybrid powertrain with 437Hp & 583 lb-ft torque! And the word is that this same power plant will be in the upcoming brand new 4Runner! So I'll be waiting for THAT vehicles release, and if everything is correct... trading in my 2015 WK2 Overland V8 for one!
Thanks for your comments. I understand what you are saying - I am just curious if you've driven the 4xe. It does have a lot of pep and is actually faster than the v8 Grand.
The 2-liter 4 cylinder engine is the same as in the Alfa Romeo Stelvio/Giulia. Fantastic engine with lots of torque and good fuel economy. I can barely hear it in my 4xe. The non-sophisticated sound comments are just BS.
The only reason imo to buy the 4xe is for the extra horse power and torque. Otherwise the minimal electric capabilities are not worth the cost plus having to constantly plug it in is just not very convenient. Unless you need to horse power and torque for towing it just seems logical to stick with the V6 and not have the hassle of a tax credit and installing a level 2 charger (another couple grand for hardware and installation). 14 hours for level 1 charging for what, 25 miles of electric batteries? If it were 150 miles or even 100 miles it may be worthwhile but 25 miles just seems like a waste unless you do a lot of towing. Just my opinion and I own a 2024 Summit with the V6. I looked at the 4xe and the cost vs benefit didn't make sense for me. And honestly, the V6 has plenty of power for 90% of GC customers.
I can definitely understand your thoughts. I will say depending on driving style and habits the 4xe definitely does shine in the mpg catagory. Regardless, you've got to pick what's right for you. Merry Christmas
@@JeepsOnTheRun Doing the math, the offset to the mpg is the higher price of the 4xe and the cost of a level 2 charger and constantly having to plug it in. Even if its just $2k more than the V6 with everything else being equal, it will take several years of fillups just to break even because the 4xe will only get an extra 5 or 6 mpg. When you look at it purely from an objective financial perspective it really doesn't make sense to buy the 4xe. Just being honest because the 4xe will still need fillups.
I can understand your thought. I do own a 4xe wrangler and I'll say it was actually cheaper to buy a 4xe sahara than a standard sahara due to the tax write-offs and incentives I can take advantage of. Without those in place - yes, it would take the average owner to be able to be electric heavy for it to pay off.@@treydrier3169
@@JeepsOnTheRun True but the tax credit on the 4xe is $3,750 (not $7,500). Probably because it's not fully electric. And there's an income constraint to get the tax credit. It's good deal though if one qualifies. I do like the idea of a mild hybrid for the extra HP and torque. I just don't like having to plug it in all the time although its probably not a big deal once you get used to it. I'll wait for the next generation 4xe. Hopefully it improves on the electric range.
When you lease it you do get the full 7,500. And I buy through ny business so it also helps there. There's also a 1,500 leas loyalty right now.. SO for me, that stacks up fast. There are already talks of the ragne extender model (found in the new ram) to hit the Wrangler. You're right. It's not a big deal at all once you're used to it. I will say while I LOVE the Jeep - I am also glad I lease it b/c I agree as these age the technology is going to change fast! @@treydrier3169
Jeep is only one that understands plug in hybrids are flexible usable. Why everybody else goes for electric boring also not convenient. I hope Jeep brand Dodge does not go doing what everybody else is does. And let other companies copy off their designs Backwheel drive is awesome to the Brand is better than front wheel drive with 4x4 drive
I owned one only very briefly and it was too long. While it is beautifully appointed the drive train sucks. Their plug in hybrid system is terrible. The battery drains even while driving on the highway and then what youve bought is an under powered mediocre MPG Jeep.
Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it. Yes, the batter drains regardless when you drive it (unless in e save). The weird thing is you mentioned that when it's dead you have an underpowered jeep. Even with a dead battery you always have full torque and HP.
If you buy this, you are playing with fire. The Wrangler 4XE is getting HORRIBLE reviews because of reliability problems and Chrysler/Stellantis have never fixed these issues. If you still buy one, better start saving up for tow truck fees. I mean it.
