Great depth of review, nuanced and well expressed. Through you we get to touch these beauties with a sensitivity rarely encountered. "Thank you" barely says it.
I found this S30V testing to be absolutely fascinating! Even a halfwit such as myself (who can barely even sharpen his own knives) found your results & discoveries with the polished vs. toothy vs. convex edges SUPER interesting (even if I'm not able to personally put this information into practice myself). I love how you're able to still discover previously unknown traits and characteristics of an older steel like S30V through your month of experimentation, examination and analysis. A poor analogy would be that you're like a Michelin-starred Chef who CAN cook an intricate 30 dish tasting menu (you, sharpening REX45 or experimenting with various super-steels), but you're also able to still find joy in discovering new and interesting things through cooking a simple omelette or pasta dish, as well. Your hard work and dedication is appreciated! Nobody else on youtube does what you do, because nobody else CAN do what you do!! 🙌 The chartreuse green looks fantastic on you!!! 💚🥰💚
He’s trying to say you cook a mean grilled cheese. Well, he may not be saying that but I’m kinda craving one after that comment. I’m here for the knife nerd stuff and the food talk as well 😉
I used the Spyderco Warranty a couple of months ago and not only did they fix my pacific salt but they put a sick edge on it. Very satisfied with their warranty service.
Dr Larrin Thomas said geometry is more important than steel, meaning the angle of the sharpening. If it’s chippy at 15 degrees then back up to 20, more robust.
The sage 5 is honestly one of my favorite Spydercos and I’d love to see it in some more steels even though I love the S30V. I like some Benchmade designs but imo spyderco has them beat in almost every way.
Thanks for the thorough review of these two knives. The differences that you discovered were very interesting! I have had quite a bit of experience with both companies S30V and have been fine with either one, although I would give the edge to Spyderco.
This was awesome info! One hundred percent agree, a good heat treatment is important, but proper edge geometry can really boost the performance of just about any steel. Have a great Sunday, Erica!🤟
I really enjoy the sliceyness of bugouts. I do a 17 dps edge at 3000 grit (diamond stones on a fixed angle system). They become razor blades which is perfect since I cut down cardboard each week en masse (about 30+ boxes a week). It needs maintenance afterwards, and a sharpen about once a month. I would like to try some spyderco's at some point.
Excellent, thorough review of trade-offs! I'm "Team Spyderco" -- particularly love the Sage 5 (and the compression lock), but without you and a few others somewhat like you, I'd not know if I were just a victim of marketing in my preferences.
@@nickallen8333 The only thing is I don’t think a Lynch clip will work on that model……correct me if I’m wrong. But I believe the screw has too be in the middle of the clip. Either way nice deal and knife 👍🏻
@@nickallen8333 Gotcha. I put a Lynch clip on my lw and I like it. Hope they put an exclusive sage 5 out n a different steel, that would be nice. And a pm2 size Native 5. In between the chief and regular version. 👍🏻
I own several Spyderco and Benchmade knives, they are all good; I have no complaints aside from I wish their prices would come down. Thanks for sharing about your experiences with these two brands. Take care and Cheers!
I haven't carried my bugout yet but iv had a sage 5 in pocket about 5 weeks. And I agree the high grit edge glasses out fast. I have the same 600 convex but stopped it on raw leather. It's the best edge for me
I really appreciate your dedication. I never thought Spyderco's s30vn was chippy, but I don't hard use or abuse those knives cuz I think of them as expensive. But I got my pm2 after watching someone batton with it on a RU-vid video 😂
I just went to sharpen my mini grip tanto I just got a new blade on and holy cow, it was not a cool experience. I had to walk away twice in anger 😂. I’m hoping the edge is just burnt or something, but it’s absolutely nothing like my other benchmades in s30v or gerber or Spyderco. It is really really hard steel and ultra toothy no matter what I do to it. Loses a fine edge basically instantly but has a very course bitey edge that seems to last damn near forever for s30v. To the point I don’t see how it’s even s30v at all. But whatever it is , it’s a total bish to sharpen. Took damn near two hours even using dmt stones and that seemed like the blade was just skating across the diamonds.
Did you use a ceramic stone ? It’s happened to me a few times , once with magnacut . I used a ceramic rod and stropped it 3x as much and then it was good for me .
@@Hungrybird474 I noticed ceramic does affect it like no other knives I own. Course ceramic seems to do well, but fine doesn't at all. I was throwing everything I had at it the other night, diamond and ceramic and stropping with compounds. The steel just seems like it will only take real bitey and toothy edge. It's really not much sharper than it was from the factory, still has like a microscopic serrated edge type feel. I would even drag it through a piece of wood, and finally dragged the blade into a piece of nylon rubber coated soft loop material I had close by me. Then I would go to the next grit higher making sure it's not just a wicked burr hangging onto the apex while sharpening. Never seen anything like that with s30v from my other benchmades. Almost feels like ultra hard carbides all along the apex. The blade loses it's fine edge quickly like s30v, though. Then it goes for a couple weeks of daily cutting with a sharp yet extremely toothy serrated type cut.
Good final review of the testing. I know these are two different knives, but if you are comparing the same aspect of the knives, I think you should use identical sharpening criteria. The same edge and polish of the edge for a scientific evaluation of the characteristics of both blades. I still have the factory edge on 99% of all my knives and only use a steel to hone them back to hair popping sharp. A lot of people out there would think this absurd, but it works for me. You have a great day, Erica. Thanks
Wait what…? Did you have the volume on for the video? If so, you would have heard that I tested the factory edge, 600grit working edge, and polished edge for both knives.
@@ericasedc ah. Well if you ever get the bug, I recommend checking out their S30V from the custom shop. I don't know if the stuff on their Pro series is the same but I know my custom 110 holds an edge like a boss
Great review! I enjoyed the updates along the way. I'm super newb when it comes to sharpening, after watching healthy amount of your videos I'm definitely feeling more comfortable.
Would like to own a Benchmade but none of their knives appeal to me in design or style enough to spend that much money. And with Spyderco now able to use the axis lock design, the action coupled with the spyder hole is best of both worlds. I do not like thumb studs. Thumb studs don't belong on a blade. Frankenstein. I do like the fact you can send in your benchmade and they will pretty much fix everything, no questions asked. If my Spyderco needed warranty related repairs or servicing, I woukdnt know where to send it to. Great review!
What was impressive was the Spidy's edge hitting a copper stapel and not chipping. What is even more impressive is those copper staples are not copper at all. They are thinly copper washed to prevent corrosion but are steel! Very impressive!!! Benchmade have lost their minds in pricing. Probably due their military contracts which are nine times out of ten very overly prices and that may very trickle down to us the consumer. I always enjoyed S30v. Seems that there have been a lot of one step forward and two or three steps backwards with companies wanting it changed. First S35v and then S45v. Neither of which are for my uses anywhere as good as the original S30v. GRRRRRR!!! KnifeMaker
I had aBugout convexed n polished lent to brother n he cut open aluminum cans open with it and it Rolled most but did chip. I keep mine at 20dps And super polished so if it does chip bad its not mm wide. I mean my hard users though my meat and light users are very low dps .. Spyderco is my Fav knives to sharpen the heat treat is always where u want it. Geometry is huge look at Soddys is low grade steel cut even when dull.
I would have loved to have a custom buggy but their prices are higher than what I payed last time and it just didn't feel worth the money when all I want is g10, different colors. Don't get me wrong guys I love colors, Colors are for me
I have a feeling that Leatherman did more to harm the reputation of S30V than anything else combined. Their "premium" blades was just notorious for chipping and straight up shearing off.
