As soon as I seen the thumbnail in my notifications I knew it was your video. I really do enjoy these field videos. I find it odd how I do the same work all day, and come home and watch someone else do the same thing... I've learned a lot Thank You!
Here in California you need to install a drain in the exhaust pipe right where it comes out of the furnace, they make a specific connector that has the 2” exhaust and a 3/4 coming out the bottom.
Excellent find Ted, gotta love those home owners who can the original design. I didn't see any original pipe support hangers. That sure seems to be a long run for 2 in pipe ? But I'm sure that you fixed it.
i didnt think trane liked 2 in vent pipping on there furnaces,that run looked like it should have bin in three inch especially with all of those 90s and 45
Plastic pipe should be supported by fabric straps (like was found) or plastic plumbing straps or j-hooks. Otherwise some picky home inspector who has to find something wrong will write it up. The furnace will vibrate, and over time, in theory, the metal strap with sharp edges could wear the pipe. It's not likely to be a problem in practice over the 20 year life of the furnace.
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I can understand someone wanting the water to run out the end - if they're not thinking about the hot glue gasses that need to travel upwards along the "ceiling" of the pipe - but how in the hell did he expect it to drain out the end of the pipe, when the end had that 24" riser under the porch??
Well, all these arm chair HVAC techs are critiquing, but what I liked was the access to your van from the side. That is handy. And before anybody runs there pie hole, I have 32 years of service in the upstate of SC.
with how long the pipe is could it be that the air is not getting out fast enough and the warm air is cooling in the pipe making excess water in the pipe ? more then norm
That vent pipe has to be 3” for the length for one there is no freakin way thats ok 2” also there should be a plumbers tee in there to get rid of the excess condensate omg the butcher jobs ridiculous
I don't know about that Trane but Carrier/Bryant can take 2" pretty far. That run didn't have too many elbows really either. And the plumbers Tee (with the barb and hose) isn't required unless there is a dip in the exhaust pipe because the furnace should be draining the condensate. That being said that pipe was OK except the obvious termination and tape hack. The pitch should have been higher too. I think our Bryant's call for 1/4" per foot (I'd have to look it up but it's around there). Edit: That pipe may have to be insulated too
Saw you said homeowner hack job. There are as also professional installers who are hacks . Heating and air people have no excuse. They make huge profit and and send some new person that has little traing who create many issues. And can anyone explain why a tempstar 600000 BTU furnace and a 24000 air system should cost 7200 dollars to install. Adding up cost of units and all the parts plus labor doesnt come close to 7200.
This Greenville SC? or Anderson side? saw area code, Just wanted to know I live near. Edit Answered my own question. Thanks for the great videos you sir are a bar everyone should be meeting in Skillman ship. Please keep the videos coming.
I know the codes may allow that metal ban strap or that horrible nylon strap but that flue pipe install would not pass where I work. Inspectors want Greenfield clamps securing flue pipe every 3ft or it would fail.
I don't understand why you would want the vent pipe lower toward the unit if there is water staying in the pipe. Please explain like you did for the homeowner.
You always pitch the flue back to the furance so the water condensing on the inside of the pvc pipe to run back so it can drain. When you dont water can stand in the pipe and cause pressure switch trips. The reason for the fix is there was a low spot in the elbow where the water was leaking out.
I often wondered if the water from the vent on my condensing boiler that was professionally installed should be dripping out side or going out the condensate drain. Now I know it installed wrong.
Not necessarily, it will always condense when the exhaust leaves the outside termination. Just take a look at the exhaust and see if it's pitched correctly the entire run. And usually you'll have pressure switch issues, causing the boiler to not keep up, or struggle to keep up.
Ted, Your the business guy not me, But going from the bottom of the floor to EYEBALL the top of the pipe seems harder than , Bottom of the floor to the side of the (centerline) of the pipe, it was always quicker for me that way, but I'm in upstate NY. I used the rule of PITCH 1/4" for 4' on the vents.
Worst vent I ever saw, some "self installed" C (single wall) came out of a basement, BURIED in the yard for several feet, and exited right up out of the GROUND. This is in N Idaho "snow country." I have no idea how it ever worked in winter. Homeowner was aggressive and uncooperative. Refused to fix it. I was there for another reason, so I left and called the power company. "IN those days" WA Water Power was the "authority" there was no local city/ county authority
Where’s the old chimney can’t you use that rather then running all that PVC , I mean run that gray plastic tubing up thru the old chimney or even use that pvc .
Every 4' should be an inch drop lol. And I love how everyone uses that gas tite shit. I'm 34 and I still do old school black iron. I think that the gas tite shit Is very amateur just like using shark bites on water lines
so, long 2" pipe run, with 3x 90 ells, 2x 45 ells. the 90's didn't appear to be long radius/turn. so each is like 8' of pipe equivalent.., the 45's are like 5'. guestimating by video that's equivalent to nearly 70' total length. which is undersized by far, even if it's 60 MBTU or smaller, way too long and flat a run overall, more so for single pipe(exhaust only) if it's really that long a run and over 60 MBTU size, you may have to step all the way up to 4" !!!! maybe swap two of the 90's for 45's and go a long diagonal inside. a hack install job for sure.
Total there was 1- street (long radius) 90s, 2- long radius 90s, and 2- 45s ..... total pipe was over 45 ft... each 90 counts as 5ft.... 45s count as 3.... counting all that it was over 66 ft total.... the TUC1 - 60,000 furnace was rated for 60ft max on 2in according to Trane.
nice :)) So, I underestimated the pipe length itself and over on the elbows, not always easy to tell by video, but my eye said too long/undersized run.
Some people have something wrong with there noodles. You can see the end of the pipe go straight up and you think in your infinite wisdom I'm going to cut this pipe off that a professional put in and duck tape it that will do the trick.
Using 2" PVC for a flue line? I doubt that would ever pass fire code in Europe. Double walled stainless pipe for furnaces is pretty much mandatory here.