Future Generations Need to Know Our Nuclear Waste Is Deadly. How Can We Tell Them? 

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@@carodame9419 GET BACK REDDIT! HYAH! HYAH! BACK *I SAY!*

Yeah, like "don't go in there"...

obviously you never played Skyrim

Thats kind of the issue we cant not put something there cause someone might put something (city, mine, etc) on top but any soulution for that warning is impractical at best.

@@redwolfe3343 Why would they mine where there's nothing of value? Neither people in the past nor today just mine randomly. They survey and examine the place first. Unless the valuable mineral was easily mined with simple tools pre-industrial civilizations didn't bother to waste time, money and effort on nothing. Modern day geologists also know where mineral deposits might be found and thus are hired to survey and do test drills. Why put a city long away from a coast, a lake or a river? A primitive civilization would never do such a thing, an advanced civilization meanwhile has the knowledge about radiation (was measured in the 1880's already and known to exist even before that). Too many people wrongly assume people were idiots in the past and may be complete idiots in the future.

😂 Sounds kinda familiar.

Worked perfectly for the Egyptians!!

@@McLarenMercedes 2:19 In the future, salt is power

Imagine what would happen, if we found an ancient sight like this lol

It is true that morbid curiosity makes us admire things that are supposed to be dangerous, even if we fully know the risks. But Imagine humans 10000 years from now stumbling into that place. Hundreds of stone spikes rising from the desert ground, a cave sealed by many heavy metal doors, hundreds of feet below the ground, strange writing that is purposefully designed to convey that only death is to be found. Yes, there would be those curious enough, but the message would be as clear as it gets. Here, pain and suffering lies. The sins of a powerful civilization are locked away beneath this rock and salt to keep you from disturbing them. For if you do, they become your sins in turn, and inviting them unto you will be your undoing. Only death leaves this place.

shit idgaf even if I knew Nuclear Waste is in there Id to there just to take pictures because its so badass. Would I die of radiation? Likely. Would I look badass before I die? Hell ya.

We dump heavy metals into rivers and land fills that last until the end of time, they do not decay. Ever. Before the EPA enforced "dilution is the solution" people were already dying from cancers and other illnesses from it. Nuclear power and waste is the cleanest industry these old industrial towns have ever known. No one has died from it or will ever die from it. The thing people fear about nuclear waste is actually the thing that makes it disappear. The more radioactive it is, the faster it decays.

@infini_Ryu and the amount of nuclear waste are embarrassing compared to other kind of sources of energy

@@lucacarbonaro2911 how so? Because out of every nuclear plant or program in existence if we needed a place to bury all of the high-level waste then we it could easily fit within the size of a US football field.

@@totallyawesomemusic3841 the fact is that we know how to store this waste, no radiation comes out from a nuclear cask for high medium and low level waste, and they do this in Finland, sweeden and france in construction, they can do this non because they have this magical sites but because they now that it is safe and it's more easy if you think that the ratio between energy produced and waste for nuclear energy is 1/300 the ratio of solar

@@totallyawesomemusic3841 the amount of waste just make things easier

Looks good lol

Like a world wonder.

@@britasha1194 How ironic would it be if all that is left to wonder at in 10000 years is our deepest regrets.

@@harrygenderson6847 Yes twitter being the only thing left would be a disaster for all mankind indeed. LOL

Would be funny if future generations would stay away from them thinking they were dangerous

where is this quote from?

well said and or quoted.

This feels like when Oppenheimer said, “We are become death, destroyer of worlds.”

"OH boy, I bet there's some high level loot in here!

@@EmonWBKstudios "Wow! This place looks super honourable!"

Then some might theorise that there is a curse upon those who violated the said ancient monument.

@@joseislanio8910if it stops then from going in, all the better.

I agree with Spencer here. Rather than the statistic of millions of deaths, a tragedy of 1 or 2 would drive the point across.

Except that in 1,000 years the "waste" will be in caskets of reinforced concrete about 12 foot tall and 10 feet in diameter, welded over by steel, and needing heavy equipment to get to the rods inside. Those rods will be safe enough to hold in your hands without any special shielding. You see, everything dangerous in radiation goes away quickly. In hours and days. The medium stuff goes away in about 30 to 60 years. In 1000 years, not much left.

the worst part isn't side effects of th radiation exposure. But they soon enouph may find this thing is producing heat. Then sonner than later they will do all research and produce nuclear weapons again...

thats exactly what the problem is. It's why skull symbols aren't used: in the past, the skull symbol represented death, plague, pirates, but nowadays maybe it represents lost treasure. They had several symbols designed and the current bio hazard one was identified as the most memorable, and sinister-looking while also being abstract to avoid potential cultural interpretation

@@boltstrikes429 Originally the skull symbol actually symbolized rebirth. When sailors were buried at sea in the past there was a fear their souls wouldn't go to heaven since they weren't buried in six feet underground in a holy place (like a cemetery). In order to guarantee that the dead sailors went to heaven their names had a skull with crossed bones (representing the cross of Christ) next to them in the ship's log. People in the past were very superstitious and feared having their souls wandering aimlessly. Old depictions of Jesus nailed to the cross has a skull with crossed bones next to it symbolizing his rebirth. This btw nothing uncommon elsewhere in the world where skulls symbolize the immortal souls of the ancestors of tribal people and are sometimes kept in a shrine meant to respect the "dead" (with them in spirit). In due time however the skull and crossed bones symbol came to represent death alone as it became increasingly common and its original meaning was forgotten. It's also a Hollywood myth that pirates always had skulls in their flags. Different pirates used different flags. Some used a time glass to scare their enemies since this time glass represented the short time their victims had left to live... Others used depictions of the devil holding a pitchfork, hooked sabres, the ship's captain holding a chalice together with a skeleton or even standing on two skulls. "but nowadays maybe it represents lost treasure" Nope. For modern day people skulls either represent pirated media, pirate radio or pirate products. As such they have become a symbol of rebels who "stand against big corporations and the establishment". Before streaming music the issue of "pirated music" was a issue for two decades if not more. Pirate stations and broadcasts were well-liked by people who wanted to hear "forbidden music" in many countries. Also the skulls are so common among many metal bands and such they have become a symbol of heavy metal. They most definitely don't represent some "lost treasure". There's a pervasive myth pirates made treasure maps and marked them with an x. In reality most of them never buried their loot for very long and often retrieved them from places which were easy to get to (they were pragmatic after all). Anyways, the issue of what kind of warning symbols to leave is rather simple. One can make simple strips of a healthy man opening up a container with the radioactivity symbol and then falling down ill and dying in the final part. A six year old child would understand it. It's also pretty easy to make sure they read it from the right direction by depicting the passage of time behind the figures with a bird flying past, a small tree growing into a larger one etc etc. And numbers can simply be reduced to a line representing 1, two lines representing II, three lines three etc. Two lines is more than one. Ancient people counted using their fingers which is why we have 60 as the basis our time. Last of all by buring the nuclear really deep that means that any pre-industrial civilization won't be able to dig that deep anyway, certainly not in a place which contains absolutely no mineral valuables and is useless to dig in. An industrial society meanwhile has progressed to such a level they understand science to some degree. Throughout history humans have never attempted any huge endeavor without thinking it through first. Medieval cathedrals required a whole new thinking in masonry. The ancient pyramids required incredible engineers and skilled workers. Lone workers or a few dreamers whose ambitious way outweigh their abilities never managed to uncover anything. Written laws existed in ancient Sumeria but probably existed long before that, we don't know because there's nothing written down which is preserved from that era. But it's clear that tribal people completely isolated from the rest of civilizations also have their laws they can't just break at will. What I'm trying to say is that some lone human some 20,000 years from now won't just stumble across nuclear waste storage out of the blue. If he or she does it will require a huge effort to examine further. This in turn will attract the law and the rulers of this society. Scholars existed in ancient societies too. If this is seen as a very important find then obviously this will warrant more thorough investigation. People here making comparison with Egyptian tombs have no clue. Egyptian tombs were lavish and designed to reflect the wealth of the pharaoh. Great works of art and mummified animals and humans were supposed to live alongside the pharaoh in the afterlife. But nuclear waste storage would be so dreary and dull looking they convey something different. It doesn't take a great level of thinking to realize that if something is buried really deep and much effort was taken to keep it hidden and sealed forever then it wasn't meant to be found. Obviously anybody half reasonable (and people have never been stupid on an absurd level) will realize what they found might in fact be very dangerous and even deadly. When people went to the moon the astronauts were kept quarantined for a few days after returning to Earth. Why? Well, even though we're certain no germs can survive in space why take such a risk in the first place? For all we know the moon might contain some micro spores which activate when a living host approaches it. So they took safety precautions against all imaginable problems. Likewise a technological civilization won't just rush headlong into something they don't understand. People deriving their assessment of humanity from games and Hollywood "logic" don't understand the fundamentals of human history.

@@McLarenMercedes awesome comment.

That's what the "spikes" (or likely other, more simple to build and more durable, eerie and unsettling architecture designs) are meant to do: Scare-off people that can't read what's written on them. Also, the final revision of the written message will likely include something along the line of "If this message is worn-down, written in an old and/or rarely-spoken language or is otherwise hard to read, please copy it on the provided blank space in any commonly used language you happen to know".

Well I don't think this is something so easy to one to one with since the internet now exists. With that and now stupid amounts of information flowing seeing something like that they could just take a photo and translate it actively and see what they are. Or go look it up on their device and find results dating back thousands of years and be like. Oh shit.

Ikr and then they dig it up and shit

ATOMIC POPE!

@@JollibeenosHasYourCoordinates This was actually a proposed solution to this problem. Starting a church akin to the Catholic church, one that would preserve the massage of "don't dig here" through religion rather than science. So long as this church existed in some form in 10,000 years, we should be safe.

@@davidbray5982 Look at Jerusalem, do you think the Catholic Church is a good example of preservation?

@@edgaraldana3205 I'm sorry Mr Castro, I'm a nerd for nuclear history, I don't know much about religion. As I understand it, Catholicism is a very old religion who's message had changed very little, even if their support base has moved about.

From HP lovecraft's collection of short stories, from the 1930's.still in print.

@1,618 φ They will use a new word for death.

The0Stroy shitty solution. You dont rename areas because the language is different. Australia is still australia, despite Australia being a latin word, everyone calls it that. It'd also make translation and communication confusing. If a place or person has a name, usually everyone regardless of language refers to it by one name (sometimes more depending on other factors, like Germany being called Deutschland by germans) but you cant make a place thats name changes for every single country.

Or you can just have a sign that says dig here if your gay

@@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892 that's just it. Australia wasn't allways named Australia. It was New Holland before it got changed. And it will change again.

plus, 'death' can mean a lot of things. maybe death is a god, maybe death means a graveyard. these concepts arent guarenteed to survive time

Oh it's you!

@@lukevanordstrand4997 yeah me whoever the hell I am

@@germanwarrabbit nah I've just seen you before in a couple of different videos

@@lukevanordstrand4997 oh ok

Believe me when I say this, I've seen some of the other hostile architecture and it's horrific.

Yeah, agreed, it really is ^^'

Unfortunately, it is impossible to just hope that people don't go there. You have to place markers. So might as well explain with those markers that going here leads to death.

The spikes are just a meaningless marker, the idea is that future humans will realise that everything that goes near the spikes dies, so they will start to regard it as cursed ground

Send it out to space

It’s basically infinite

@@juanjopava240 But people won't die, the radiation at the surface will be the same as at any other place on earth.

My thougths too

Jon T Nothing. Otherwise it would have been discovered by now. The ONLY thing people discover today when building at a new spot is sometimes remnants of stone age settlements from the time people lived a nomadic lifestyle and moved around with the animals they hunted. As soon as any archaeological discovery is found the construction immediately stops and the archaeologists do their work first. Building resumes when everything has been cleared. In old cities like Rome, London and Istanbul/Constantinople special care must always be made not to damage historical important traces and remnants. All this talk about ancient high-advanced civilizations are just pseudo-science and tinfoil hat nonsense. So far we have absolutely zero evidence of anything else but the first human civilizations appearing in Sumeria (present day Iraq) some 6500 years ago. The remnants of this ancient civilization are dug out today in the deserts of Iraq. We have found stone plates with their writings. And later cultures took over from them once they declined and collapsed. Here's what most idiots don't understand. Civilizations emerge where there is an abundance and surplus of food. Where would this be do you imagine? Oh, where the ground is fertile. And where is ground fertile? In the desert? In the forest? In mountains? No, in river deltas of large rivers. So it's hardly surprising all great civilizations emerged around great rivers. Sumeria, Assyria and Babylonia all emerged in mesopotamia between the Tigirs and Euphrates rivers. The ancient Egyptians around the Nile delta. The ancient Chinese around the Yangtzee river. The Indus river gave birth to ancient India. But if you need to learn something I'll give you a popular fallacious argument for free. It's a fallacy called "Argument from ignorance" (Argumentum ad ignorantiam). Also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents "a lack of contrary evidence"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false. In other words it's the hallmark for all those who like to speculate wildly and those who believe that just because they believe so that's the only "evidence" they'll ever need. No viable hypothesis? No evidence? Not even a valid position? Then it's *pure speculation* . Come back here when somebody discovers some "amazing ancient civilization underground bunker".

Probably rock, than magma. A lot of magma

Ground, pipes, radon gas (radioactive gases) more pipes, my home’s foundations and Then you get to the magma.

The floor

more advanced people aren’t the concern, they would likely understand the risks of radiation. I believe the concern is a potentially regressed population that no longer understands what radiation even is.

@Angela Soto Some of the tombs have literal curses inscribed on them if they are opened, but people still open them

One day they'll open a tomb full of anthrax or even worse an ancient plague

@@imlafonz8047 Aren't those curses just to help the buried in the afterlife though? As I understand them, those "curses" are just spells meant to be used by the dead in the afterlife, not to curse trespassers

@@ananousous I’m not sure

@@imlafonz8047 A lot of people are making the connection to ancient egypt, but that's dumb because curses aren't real. The only curse that ever manifested itself was a fungal infection that people got from breathing the ultra stale air in there...

On a short timescale it works... make it 24000 years and all those "decent" approaches fail spetacularly. Ceramic decays, language is lost, landmasses and climates change. It needs a warning. And we dont have a way to convey said warning. Salt washes away, concrete has a effective life of less than a century without maintenace and crumbles down to dust within a couple of centuries in the ground. Plants and ecology changes, plastic will be biodegradable naturally in less than 100 years. You see the problem?

...but those plastics may bexome of more value in of themselves after the full exploitation of Earth's oil. Much like how the collesuem was being torn down to build houses and roads.

Actually the un-detonated warheads didn't create any waste because there needs to be a nuclear reaction for waste to be produced and since they were never detonated, there wouldn't have been a reaction therefore no waste. I gained this big brain knowledge by watching Kangaroo Jack for 24 hours straight, and you should do the same.

For now and even the next few centuries probably, but protective material will likely degrade before radioactive waste does

​@@Vapor817 it will be at a safe level of radiation by that time, I reckon

Have you ever REALLY looked into how nuclear plants work? And know that our earth is literally a nuclear reactor in its core? Which is the reason why earth isn't like mars. It keeps the earth hot inside and generates a magnetic field to protect us. If there was no nuclear power... we wouldn't even be alive. Also there is nuclear power without little waste. The BN-800 reactor in Russia literally EATS nuclear waste. It's a molten salt fast spectrum nuclear power plant.

@@HermanWillems I'm sorry but it ain't worth the risk. There is no such thing as a nuclear powerplant that works for ever. There is no such thing as as a zero risk or zero emissions nuclear reactor or nuclear energy. The risks are always catastrophic and last for thousands of generations!!! We can only trace back human history to few tousands of years back! We don't know how to dispose of corium nor we know how to dispose of nuclear waste. Get rid of nuclear energy, leave it the labs in universties and that is it!

So just build a mountain over it

So basically, pretend it doesn't exist? Makes sense ngl

But if you don't do anything people will still eventually start to build or dig there for other reasons (eg. mine the salt).

@@qdaniele97 Other than future hunter-gatherer's, (which we may regress to in the distant future) anything taking place as you mention are the acts of a more advanced civilisation, and they would posses the intelligence to be cautious if anything was discovered. This is exactly the solution; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uFfhxwN_0fY.html

​@@Gutterboyofficialor a pyramid... ehe

I hope that some cool deeds are esteemed here!

Lots of valued things here!

Haha same

Yeah

That always blew my mind. How does something GAIN energy when, by nature, it loaes energy?

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then a random group of vloggers goes to stream themselfs digging up the site

You can’t.

@@justiceofbook people said that you couldnt fly with anything that was heavier than air, and lool what we have now

@@doorstopper674 how will you neutralise radiation? Are you gonna go and tell the atoms to stop letting the protons and neutrons break off?

@@erzhaider i dont know, im not a scientist

@@doorstopper674 -> you can't neutralise radioactivity

Who says humanity is still there in 10.000 years lol. We are just a blip in time what you worry about.

I think this too. It would explain curses

They are warnings to stay away from their king

HappyQuails thats too associated with pirates and isnt even a valid symbol today.

I guess it doesn't matter humanity only exists 100.000 year. And our earth has an expiration date, just like our sun. There will be an end of humanity. There is a beginning and an end. Don't need to think past human civilazation.

@@HermanWillems dude since humans have existed for 100000 years, it's feasible we'd exist for the next 100000 years while that fuel is still dangerous. Therefore it's important to at least make an effort to consider low probability scenarios such as if everyone forgets about nuclear physics, or if noone finds the site until all modern languages and records drop out of archeological memory.

We do like that. We dig very, very deep, way below water network and biodiversity. And we put all the very radioactive waste into glass and ceramic to stop their heat and radiation. And hear me out: We reunite all the waste of the world ever made and put them deep underground, with the size of a football field. Sure spikes look cool but damn this is so inefficient and too spookier than necessary :p

Lmao the irony is palpable!

No paper wont last paint wont last stuff embedded on rocks wont last, NOTHING will last if we get wiped out and around 250000 or less years pass Thts why they try to make use of the most basic things of life like fear to keep new civilizations away

How do you ensure the viewer will read it right? If your making something like a comic strip, there are numerous factors to keep in mind. Which direction will these readers be used to reading? Up down, down up, left right, right left? A wrong guess can result in a message muddled by miscommunication. And what art do you make that conveys the effects clearly, but also simple enough that they can last millenia and also be universally recognized? And what level of society is viewing this warning? Will they be able to interpret what the picture even means? And will that species even resemble modern humans enough that such a drawing is even applicable?

@@123deserted If that amount of time passes the radiation's gone dude. Anyways, if anything inscribed into the fear rocks wears down then eventually the rocks themselves will wear down also and either be straight up gone or lose the sharpness that creates the fear in the first place. So this solution isn't even that great by your own standards.

@@Shadow6OO not really, im pretty sure rock formations breaking away and paint and paper going away have enough time in between them for possible danger. Idk enough though just research the reasons if u want

In 100.000 year human are'nt live on earth

That's why some people say.

@@user-gc1hg9sp9k Only God knows how to deal with.

@I like Green or if we destroy ourselves with nuclear weapons ...

2020: "3 months, take it or leave it"

And then we settle mars and because there’s nothing on mars to dissipate the radiation you’re looking at one big heated gamer moment

The problem with sending waste into space is that if we fuck up we dump radioactive material into our atmosphere.

@@kidneybean5688 There’s also the risk the rocket, y’know, fucking splodes and then we got all these open ice cream cans of death

C p H e I d N o K

Gives it way more gravitas. Almost like they are deliberately giving you time to consider what was just uttered. 240,000 years... My god, how many generations is that etc.

I think its meant to be ominous

Ah yes go directly to the gargantuan spikes.

People also dont realize it would take more fuel than has ever been used in all of human history and then some just to launch a fraction of the amount of nuclear waste into the sun. After all these years burying it is the only" solution" all us geniuses have come up with. And it just keeps piling up and wont be close to not being dangerous for another 300000 years

With all that nuclear waste you can make strong ašs anti armor bullets

No but the half a mile of rock they are burried under sure will

Said AI would eventually be viewed as a god, if early humanity is a precedent to behavioral analysis. In the end we need to NOT go extinct. The best way to avoid a catastrophe in 10,000 is to still be there as a species, culture and set of beliefs. Easy? Hell no. The best solution? No doubt.

... Unless Alien overlords decide to take over after a mass cataclysm (*cough* like corona) and decide to ignore the remaining locals. Unlikely, but could happen. At least in theory.

What if nuclear war... then our descendants think its not a dangerous place but they think of it as a burial ground or something

"We are not in the 17th century where the best form of recording information was to write it on goat leather.. the information regarding the dangers of nuclear waste is not going to just "go away"." That will be true if human civilization just keeps evolving and becoming more and more advanced. But there's a "small problem" - we don't know if if our current civilization will collapse due to some natural disaster like a super volcano, a comet/asteroid strike or if there is some global nuclear war. Heck even some super-virus can maybe wipe out almost all of humanity except for perhaps some remote, isolated islands. Then human civilization will have start all over again from scratch. After many thousands of years these future humans would yet again reach a technological stage and by then they might have spread and settled all over the planet. At best they may have old legends told from generation to generation that humanity once had ruled the planet in the distant past but they were wiped out in some apocalypse - and this in turn will lead to widespread speculation or just the same kind of religious superstition we have today about "the great flood". In human history many great civilizations have collapsed and over time the knowledge about them vanished. Much of what was preserved about the ancient world was collected in scrolls and kept in the huge library in Alexandria. However that library burned down in a war and with it countless of records and preserved information about the ancient world. Now imagine if our computers and all their memories were wiped out in some global war or disaster. Imagine if we kept all our information of the past and all records there? Then all the knowledge of our world would disappear too and the later generations who would rebuild civilization over the centuries would just have "bits and pieces" of what we were. And if they discover out writing and letters in the nuclear tomb - those letters will be as unreadable to us as the hieroglyphs were to us before they discovered the Rosetta Stone. Now imagine if some post-apocalyptic human civilization is based from some small Polynesian island. When these people develop technology in the distant future their language will be based on the Polynesian language talked on this island. So even if we make a modern Rosetta Stone with the 20 most common languages spoken today people in 5000-10,000 years might not understand *any* of them.

@@Monarch_Prime thats fallout

@@haruhisuzumiya6650 children of the atom

Would modern day scientists be deterred by a loudspeaker in the desert?

Thats what i think. What if we need to do something with it but an earthquake collapses tunnels or something. This should be a world wide topic everyday until a solution is foumd. Hell, swing the problem by school kids and let them share their possibly crazy ideas. Metal drums under the surface will just not do.

YOu better google up the fast spectrum reactors which will act as garbage disposals for this nuclear fuel.

I bet someone told the person in charge the same thing... and was told “hey if you any more bright ideas just keep them to yourself”

You need to bury it in the rock half a mile down as the Finns do. Only way to get rid of it.

We can recycle and reuse nuclear waste in our nuclear power plants. I Believe we have enough waste to power the entire united states for 100 years.

Yes, actually! The place they're burying it in is actually perfect. The planned closing of the site is in 2038, when they'll collapse the tunnels and the salt bed will fill in the gaps. Salt is like lead, it's a good insulator and blocks radiation so that it will only be dangerous if people dig it out.

If u know something about nuclear science and how uranium works then you’ll know that site is perfect

That’s exactly where it should go. What’s the problem? That’s where it was before we dug it up.

It's a great solution. Earth is literally a nuclear power plant. And you don't worry about that waste material right??????

the problem i’ve heard of having the step by step drawing of the effects of nuclear waste is that it may not be read like we do. some languages don’t read left to right, and some in the future could read down up. that would just make it seem like a savior like substance

@@autumnjacobs1164 that’s the point of the I II III IIII

How the heck would they know that the stuff was dead from the radiation. What if they don’t even understand the concept. What if they think it’s an ancient burial site for the honored according to the pictographs. That’s the issue I see

If I showed the nuclear waste symbol to someone just 500 years ago they’d have no idea what the heck it even means. How can we know if someone 10000 years in the future would even know. We can’t even understand Egyptian hieroglyphics easily (until we studied and translated them for a while) and those were only around 5000 years ago (maybe more I can’t exactly remember). The issue remains that culture will radically change in 10000 years and who knows what they’ll interpret your solution as. Tho I admit

The spike solution isn’t any better either

It'd be a good solution if it didn't take several million dollars and thousands of pounds of fuel to do it.

@@Dillpickle1997 good point

There's the risk of a spaceship exploding and straight up dropping the radioactive waste back to earth.

The issue with that is that requires money. All that needs to happen is as little as a change in government administration and a budget cut.

​@@chloetangpongprush3519 make it a local tradition

If stored yes. But in 20000 years humans might not even be here anymore. And if we are we might not know they are there and dig them mfs up

Depends on the fuel used and the reactor design. Generally speaking, most nuclear fuels become more radioactive until they are no longer safe to use. Then they are used for a short time in mixed-oxide reactors. After that they are usually SO "hot" that they cannot be safely controlled and are sent to sites like this one. The other worrisome materials are the left over parts of old dismantled nuclear weapons.

I mean, who knows if there's going to be humans that still follow radiation safety guidelines in 10000 years

Sure but it's not just for a hundred years or even a thousand years. This has to be kept hidden away for 240,000 years. Civilisations will have fallen, been raised up anew, and fallen again. New people, new languages. Everything. Our civilisation is not immortal. We could go the same way as ancient Egypt or Babylon. In ten thousand years, anyone could stumble into this dangerous land without having any understanding as to why.