Well, for interests sake, why don't you do a video on life through the last 1000 years or so. Flight was discovered 117 years ago... I personally can remember using one of the very first computers... and the one of the first of the cell phones... My grandmother (who died in 2018 at the age of 98) could remember African people dressed in skins ... and the first person (pedestrian) to die in a car accident was a woman in 1896 (Bridget Driscoll). The the first person to die in a car accident in the USA was Henry Hale Bliss in 1899. My grandmother's father (my great-grandad who died when I was 12 was the first person to own a car in our little town!. Fortunately (or unfortunately) my family have long list generations with longevity .... 3 times in recent history (including my son and grandson) 5 generations were alive at the same time
To add a Douglas Adams quote: “A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.”
Rising sea levels will flood the island and seep into the chambers which will cause corrosion and seeping of radiation into the ocean for thousands of years. Future proof has to take in the future of our planet and it’s multi-millennial cycles. Unusable within 100 years and will begin contaminating the ocean within 200-500 years. Possibly the only way to dispose of radioactive waste is incineration into the sun or deposit it onto an unstable planet like Jupiter.
@@foxriley due the residual pressure the Last ice age left In northen Europa Finland is actually rising from se yes faster than seas are rising. If it stays above ground for bit More than 100 yers it Will be filled and by sealing the tomb we are planning a bit More than just closing the front gate and there is still that lvl of clay after that not saying nothing could happen but It's designed To hold below sea lvl.
@@sekofoni Guess sealing it in a deep tomb is the best solution for now, even sending to sun/Jupiter would be high risk unless we developed fail safe tech that could make it to space without possibility of blowing up. Guess we’ll just have to shove it in the ground and keep our fingers crossed. Cost of nuclear has its curse for now until we develop Helium 3 fission tech.
@@pev_ Let's hope that plan works! Altho with things like ground penetrating radar and other technologies to scan what is below the ground getting better and better there will always be a risk
Egypt valley of the dead was a boring desert..... Let's hide all our riches there, they'll never be found... 3-4,000 years later ...."oh, look, a hole, let's take a look. Oh, there's a curse on it, we can handle anything".... Lol
@@nicholasfeiock7873 I never worry about those. Temperature, amount of carbons, and peace (no movement) are the key to the fermenting stage. Bentonite is used for filtering: it somehow glues to the yeast and makes it to fall to the bottom.
You had me at moonshine. Jokes aside, I had no idea clay of any kind could be used to filter things. My gut instinct would be that it would do the exact opposite.
@@slavicraptor9106 it's a bacterial infection that is verry acute and severe, without medical help you most likely will die if exposed to it! Many governments have weaponized Anthrax, just look at the UK's fuck up while experimenting with weaponized anthrax for exampel
Telling people about the color-changing cats is one of my favorite conversation pieces tbh! Also, it totally makes sense that the only nation with an actual plan to deal with nuclear waste is Finland.
France is also working on a similar project, with Cigeo. Main difference is they start from the supposition that it Will eventually leak, so they choose a spot where even in the worst case scenario (containers and facility barely last a few decades) by the time the radionucleides reach the surface, they'll have decayed and spread to a safe level
@@Grouuumpf Onkalo site is chosen just because if they leak, the radiation propably won't seep to the water supply ... or surface. Deepest Water drillholes in finland are around 200m, but usually far less, 20-150m. The French project has actually roots at Onkalo. Even the Olkiluoto new reactor is french design (and everyone in finland regrets it :) )
Finland: "We don't need a warning because this place is so boring no one will ever have a reason to dig here!" Also Finland: "Brilliant! Let's start digging here!"
@dimapez you'd have to direct strike it with a surface piercing tactical warhead. a highly targeted and intentional strike. pretty normal bunkers are nuke-resistant.
@dimapez did you miss the part about this ground being totally stable for millions of years? I’m pretty sure the many doors on a nuclear waste tomb will be water tight 😂
@dimapez your point keeps flip flopping. Is it a tsunami or a shockwave or a direct strike you’re talking about? And if you do some research, you’ll see thousands of nuclear tests have been performed in stable bedrock across the world. Most notably by the USSR.
So as a local living somewhat close to the plant, I have visited it many times. They arrange tours during the summer there. There are actually two tunnels one is the Onkalo and the second one is for the low-level radiation dumb. You can't visit Onkalo for obvious reasons but you can in fact visit the low-level radiation dumb. You get as close as to stand on top of the waste container. The level of radiation there is so low it's barely over the level of normal background radiation.
@@indrajithg I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but just in case you're being serious, cancer is a mutation of human cells, which causes uncontrollable division of the cells, eventually resulting in death. Each cancer is specific to that person as it is made with their own cells, meaning that cancer is not contagious in any way shape or form, even if you were to let's say, have a blood transfer from someone with cancer. There are only some very small exceptions like pregnant women passing on some specific cancers onto their children, or bloodlines just possessing a faulty gene that causes cancer at a certain age. A mummy could in theory be carcinogenic(cause cancer) it it is radioactive or has some sort of materials in or around it that cause mutations or damage to the human body, however it can't give cancer like a disease.
So in 5000 years, when things have gone full cycle and we are looking at disposing waste from recently discovered nuclear fission, this site looks ideal, it's boring etc.....dig and and oh
@@Noorthia this video is literally about waste from nuclear fission, the phenomenon we have been using to generate power from uranium since Enrico Fermi figured it out in the 40s
We already have new reactors that will burn high level nuclear waste. They take spent fuel with a 30,000 year half life extract the enormous energy it contains and end up with a waste that's just a 30 year 1/2 life.
This gave me an idea: I'll write a metal plate 'grimoire' and hide it in a time capsule. After ten thousand years it will send a signal and be found. If everything goes as planned, the future civilisation can make sense of it. The book tells about a cavern of demons. Then a bunch of occultists or mythbuster sceptics find the place, dig their way into the cavern, and then they begin to bleed and scream for no visible reason. The place is once again sealed, and no one ever finds out what the hell was that. That would be a good practical joke.
Problem with this is, in ten thousand years, the language that you write your grimoire in likely will not have any speakers. 500 years ago the residents of England spoke the language you read in Shakespear. 800 years ago the residents of England spoke early English, which is barely readable to a modern English speaker. 1200 years ago the residents of England spoke Anglo Saxon, which is most definitely a different language and is entirely unreadable to a modern person. Look, in the year 0, the most spoken language in the world was probably Classical Latin, a language which today as far as I'm aware does not have any native speakers. That's only 2,000 years. In 10,000 years this grimoire will be unreadable.
the solutions for warnings sounds like an awesome plot for a book or a movie "the precursor civilization, having left no inch of the world un explored, having found ways of doubling their life spand, having built cities capable of sheltering populations of entire kingdoms within its limits and towers of pure glass and fine steel, having said to have cured almost every disease and illness, and having been allowed to explore the heavens and homes of the gods in the sky, chose to preserve this knowledge to us above all else. this land is poison. and to not journey within its bounds"
Part of me doesn’t worry too much about future civilisations discovering Onkalo, part of that is because by the time they discover the drilling technology needed they would probably have discovered radiation and would be able to detect it, but even if they hadn’t they would notice that place was dangerous when everyone started dying. It would become a danger zone that everyone avoids, like that cave in the Middle East that everyone who enters dies due to it being full of gas. I don’t think any future civilisation would continue trying to explore a cave that everyone dies in, and if they do that’s kinda their own fault.
As serious and grim the subject matter is, we had immense amounts of hilarity of watching RU-vid auto-generated subtitles trying to comprehend word "olkiluoto". Cheers from Finland.
One thing missing from this video is that this is ONE site, intended to store waste from Finland's ONE nuclear power plant, and that's it. There are 440 reactors used for producing nuclear power in the world. There should be hundreds of such sites operating around the world. The fact that there aren't any others is a way bigger and more urgent problem than anything that might happen at Onkalo in the next 100,000 years.
Finland has multiple reactors, and the waste from all will be stored in the same place. Sweden, designing the exact method used in Finland, have decided where to build the storage waste from four different plants. I'm not sure how far the actual process for construction had come. I'm sure there are other projects going on, with time taken to do it right.
@@ViktorBengtsson years ago i went to a nuclear waste processing plant in my country belgium. what i've always remembered is that they roll the high level waste into complex round bars and bury them in the ground. specifically in clay layers since they are the most stable, or so they claimed.
@Milkman Trusting that future technology will come up with better solutions sounds like typical "I'm going to let it be someone else's problem" and if everyone down the line is going to act same way it's going to end up being disaster until someone does something.
@Milkman we already have a better solution - don't MAKE this waste to begin with, by switching the industry to thorium salt bath reactors! No waste that must be kept safely protected for 100K years, no chance of meltdown or hydrogen gas buildup that explodes, and no chance of any waste being used in a dirty bomb. Research thorium salt bath technology, which has been around for decades, and then contact your representatives and demand the industry be made to switch over, now! For all of our safety! We've had this technology since long before Fukushima or Chernobyl, and yet the industry doesn't want to keep us safe, so they don't switch over!
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Question: why would anyone disturb the Onkalo's site in a far distant future? Answer: Probably for the very same reason Onkalo is being built in the first place; because there is some need to build something really, really secure underground where bedrock is very, very old and stable. The island of Olkiluoto is a great choice now, and it may be that in the far future as well. I can only imagine the level of curiosity that will be filling the minds of future geologists and historians when their exploratory drills reveal an extensive, long forgotten underground structure that was built by some unknown culture. What could it be..? It must be investigated!!1!
Yes, I can imagine the TV style show the archaeologist make talking about it. Until they all start dying. I would think a metal tablet in dozens of languages would be the bare minimum. Plus images could go from the top down. No one reads from the bottom up.
Yeah they should've made a warning sign in different languages/pictures and put it with the canisters. If someone's dug that deep the "too boring to attract interest" route obviously didn't work, so you might as well give them some idea of what's there. Maybe modern day languages will be better preserved in the future and it'll be easier for them to translate. Maybe it won't take 10,000 years for someone to dig down there. Why do they place all their hope on it not being found? They should've prepared for the worst and assume it would be found one day.
In the documentary film called "Into eternity" one of the project engineers jokingly says that one of his fears was discovering tons of old barrels and strange signs while they were digging the hole.
What Daa said - exactly what I was thinking! Imagine if today's construction workers got down 200 meters and discovered ancient dug out caverns filled with "mysterious" hollow metallic containers with no apparent seams. How terrifying...and AWESOME...would that be?!
Finland:"Let's build a nuclear waste vault here, because there's virtually no reason to visit this place anyway" This guy:"A nuclear vault? You hear that guys? Doesn't that sound interesting?" Finland:"Saatana"
Thank you for this video! And the others before ofcourse. I worked as a geologist in the ONKALO from 2004 to 2008 and it was a very interesting project to be part of. I'll let my mates still working there know this piece exists. Ps. The buiding shown when Simon talked about the construction of ONKALO and what lies above is in fact the third power plant (still) in the making of. The tunnel entrance is fairly unremarkable hole in the bedrock.
When I was still in school, we had a tour at one of the nuclear plants in Finland (not actually sure if it was this one) and we visited the caves for the waste...... it was surreal, those caves were insanely huge and knowing how deep we had to go still blows my mind! Remember seeing one cave already sealed with waste, but the one next to it was still open and it was just ridiculously huge!
The left-to-right vs right-to-left thing is so interesting. For example, the product ratings on Japanese shopping websites are often around 3 stars for both the best and worst products - because about half of shoppers will rate 1 star as being the best while the other half will follow Western/online norms and give a wonderful product a 5-star rating. Just made me think of that.
19.35 he talks about the ice age moulding the bedrock and possibly revealing the nuclear waste. Onkalo is designed to withstand the next ice ages. There are cracks in the bedrock that have been formed by previous ice ages and are thought to crack in the same places in the future. Onkalo is designed so that the natural cracks are taken into consideration and the waste is not deposited in places where the cracks are. My source is me. I've been to olkiluoto and onkalo and have been briefed about the subject there.
Imagine if the construction workers got down 200 meters deep and discovered an already existing network of ancient dug out caverns filled with "mysterious" hollow metallic containers. How terrifying...and AWESOME...would that be?!
The brotherhood of steel would love the atomic priesthood , protecting the world from its own horrors , that aside great video Simon . Keep it up with the good work .
Hahah I thought of fallout too, just of it devolving into children of atom Even an order made for sane reasons could become a cult in a few hundred years, anything remotely religious will always become exploited by leaders and lead to irrational nonsense haha But yeah I'm sure the BOS would appreciate the effort
The Brotherhood who Steal shall not defile the hallowed halls of ATOM! Unless they wish to join us in worshiping holy ATOM and embrace the on coming division in the Finished Land! Glory upon ATOM! Let this tomb of his allow us to spread his holy word upon those unbeliever's!
@Sahil Sahota Glory to Atom, father of the undying Glow. Your suffering shall exist no longer; it shall be washed away in Atom's Glow, burned from you in the fire of his brilliance. Let us release the unbelievers to his power, so that all shall feel his Glow and be Divided!
@Marechal Zolotoy I understand the implication, which I guess is the reason they didn't use the proper translation in the video. Google for "onkalo englanniksi".
There is a 2010 documentary called INTO ETERNITY that deep dives this subject, very thought provoking highly recommend to anyone who enjoys this video. Well done Simon fantastic. 👍🏻
There used to be tours into the Onkalo. My dad used to work a few summers there when he was young, I think his sister too. He gave me his old "Luolaklaani" (Cave-clan) shirt to me which was the workshirt every tour guide wore.
Good video! Just a few points though: Within a period of 1,000-10,000 years, the radioactivity of the majority of the high level waste from nuclear reactors decays to that of the originally mined uranium ore , and if you want to check the geologic stability of naturally occurring uranium ore and it's complete absence of impact on the environment when underground, google 'Oklo natural reactor'. This was a formation of 16 seams of uranium ore which 2 billion years ago - through some very quirky geology - sustained a natural nuclear chain reaction (on a 3 hour cycle). The formations did this for a few hundred thousand years, until the percentage of uranium-235 in the ore dropped below 3 percent, upon which they 'shut-down'. In terms of geological stability, over the entire period of their existence they have 'crept' only a matter of a couple of feet - *without* the benefit of encapsulation in copper canisters, concrete and bentonite clay. It's also interesting to consider that *highly* toxic industrial waste is routinely buried in not-so-secure undergound facilities as we speak: Germany for instance buries Cadmium, Arsenic, Mercury and the residues of electro-plating in disused salt mines (google kpluss undergound disposal). These waste products - unlike radioactive waste - DON'T diminish in toxicity *at all* over time and are something that future generation of humans will DEFINITELY want to avoid. Peace out.
Using Wifes phone not her opinions I know not remotely going to happen but if possible before any dangerous chemicals or ore refined or any form of mass production it should be first made possible to either render it safe by breaking it down with additives incineration ion bombardment maybe for radio nuclides to make less toxic or dangerous before it cam be mass produced yes will be costly but alot better than carcinogens being put in drums and tossed in a swamp ( they are killing our planet with dumping poison of all kinds in our oceans out O2 is from the sea ) radio active waste is just dumped and doesn't always make it to designated zones which should be none in the ocean but think about if it is a valid way why not to minimize toxic spills or if it happens we can neutralize it OK I SAID PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
@Eino Roine Yea. And at least at the time it was supposed to come into operation initially it was intended to be the most powerful nuclear reactor in the World. Some reactora have peobably passed it by now.
When speaking about how mindboggling time scales of this length really are, it highlights how incredible it is for Aboriginal people to have lived continuously in Australia for the last 65,000 years.
Here's how I figure billions: By the sounds of it, the copper sleeve is 1 meter in diameter with a 5cm wall thickness. Using the diagram in the video, it looks like they will be 4 to 5 meters long. Let's say 5, for the sake of "round" numbers. Area of said pipe would be 8250 cubic cm. (Irrelevant) Weight of the pipe 7340kg (16200lb) Price of scrap copper is ~$3.20/lb 16200×3.2= $51840/pipe at scrap price Length of the mine they are filling up is 60 - 70 km. Call it 65. Lay down a 5 meter pipe with say a 1 meter gap 65000m ÷ 6m = ~10800 pipes in one row. Looks like 10 wide in the diagram 10800 × 10 = 108000 # of pipes × scrap price 108000 × 51840 = ~$5.6 billion Don't forget the solid cap on the end as well, add another 1 to 2. And that's if they only go one layer high. Am I wrong? I'm happy to hear how. 🙂
It was really nice place to visit during my time in lukio (upper secondary / gymnasium). Visiting the whole powerplant, reactor hall, and the nearby VLJ-caves (i.e. caves relatively near the Onkalo site meant for medium & low level radiation waste). And no, we were not idiots, we carried plenty of radiation detectors on us. The real irony was that our own classroom in the upper secondary school had higher (background radiation, mostly from radon) radiation levels than what the reactor hall or the caverns did.
Gotta say, when we went to visit Olkiluoto and Onkalo on a school field trip I couldn't really appreciate the sheer amount of work that goes into designing and actually digging out that place, but nowadays, and after this video, I do.
The saddest part is that it doesn't need to be necessary! We just need to USE the technology we've had for nearly as long as the one used today: thorium salt bath reactors! No chance of having a meltdown, OR an explosion from hydrogen gas buildup, no wastes that need to be protected for 100K years, and no risk of any byproducts being used for a dirty bomb, either. The technology is only a few years younger than what the industry uses today, but they don't care about our safety enough to make the switch! Contact your representatives, by any and all methods: call, write, fax, text, tweet @ them, and use Resistbot. Demand they force the industry to make the switch, before the next Fukushima, Three Mile Island, or Chernobyl happens! We have the technology, already perfected, and the only reason the industry doesn't switch is the almighty dollar!
So Onkalo is a giant litter box essentially, where is my color changing cat? We are basically sweeping our problems under a rug and saying it'll be ok.
1:35 - Chapter 1 - The island of death 5:10 - Chapter 2 - Poison planet 8:25 - Mid roll ads 9:50 - Chapter 3 - A warning from the past 13:10 - Chapter 4 - Gone & forgotten 16:05 - Chapter 5 - Building the tomb 18:40 - Chapter 6 - Beyond the infinite
Ah yeah, screaming skulls on black jagged stones would really keep future explorers away.... Remind me, what do Archeologists do around sites picturing skulls and grim facades?
I really like these sites where we've set out to store nuclear materials long term. They have a legendary quality to them. Should global politics take a wrong turn, or the pandemic wipes out civilization, in thousands of years, these places are going to be mysterious and almost magical in a dangerous way. The truth may dilute into tales of ancient ancestors making deals with demons in exchange for power, and these sites were the price. I love it.
The saddest part of it all is that it really shouldn't be necessary! All we need to do is USE the technology we've had for nearly as long as the one used today: thorium salt bath reactors! Zero chance of having a meltdown, OR an explosion from hydrogen gas buildup, no wastes produced that need to be protected for 100K years (or even 10K years!), and no risk of any byproducts being used for a dirty bomb, either. The technology is only a few years younger than what the industry uses today, but they don't care about our safety enough to make the switch! Contact your representatives, by any and all methods: call, write, fax, text, tweet @ them, and use Resistbot. Demand they force the industry to make the switch, before the next Fukushima, Three Mile Island, or Chernobyl happens! We have the technology, already perfected, and the only reason the industry doesn't switch is the almighty dollar! The best way to make change is to use fierce pressure on both the politicians and the industry, itself. If enough people speak out, change can be made!
Simon: it ain't so dull if you only look closer, specifically, 450m meters beneath the ground. Me: ah i see, or more precise, i don't. i will get back to you when I've gained the ability to see through half a kilometer of dirt.
I've actually been there. It was a few years ago with school. At the time it was just a deep mine. It was cool to be so deep underground I've actually been quite a lot at Olkiluoto with school especially with physics class. I didn't appreciate it that much at the time, now I think it's super cool
Same where, we visited olkiluoto when i was in junior high school (yläaste) and was spoken about this place (somewhere around 04-05). Havent really given a thought to this whole topic until this video
(Meanwhile, in the year 2,435..) Scientist 1: "None of the signage has withstood the test of the elements, but be on your guard. This place seems dangerous, anyway." Scientist 2: "You got that right. Check your subatomic particle sensors through your retinal implants." Scientist 1: "What? Oh. Shit." Scientist 2: "Yeah...I think we have about five minutes to run out of here before we become permanent residents."
Also think about Carter opening King Tuts tomb. There was most likely a warning encraved that could not be translated corectly ( or was it? ). Some speculate about a curse that hit after opening but the curse could also have been a kind warning of diseases that killed the king. How can we know today? Following that path I think that we modern day people have figured out a way to deal with ancient Egyptian threats, so future civilisations might as well find a way to handle nuclear waste... or at least I hope so!
Actually visited the Onkalo once and went to the low-radiation (suits etc.) level and saw the pits they are stored in! Had to get the bottom of my shoes de-contaminated afterwards as they tripped the radiation meters on the way out lol. It was great trip, the tunnels were nice and cold in the hot summertime.
It’s also possible that the nuclear waste will become a desirable if not critical commodity and enormous expenditures will be dedicated to exhuming it for some currently unknown use.
You are closer than you think to the answer. 4th generation nuclear reactors can enrich the ‘waste’ uranium spent fuel and extract the 98% of fissile material remaining that older reactors couldn’t. This will reduce the amount of waste product considerably.
Yeah. If people thousands of years in the future hear that this was the site of one of the most expensive buildings in the world, they might want to do some archaeology and investigate. What made the building on this remote island so expensive? Maybe they could find some ruins of a majestic palace, or find ancient technology that was so advanced in the 21st century. But what they will find is probably what they would describe as gates of Hell.
@@TrolledBy You are thinking with present ideology which wont be how people think in the future nor was it how people thought in the past. If they have the technology to find the place with no signs of of any building under the ground or have heard about it. What makes you think they wouldnt have the technology or the advanced knowledge of knowing whats beneath the surface as well? You, me and the rest of the people alive now for sure dont know, but who knows if they have knowledge and machines to scan the whole earth of what atoms consist and where. Or to locate structures underneath the surface with technology. Humans have always been curious of the past hence why we are constantly digging and trying to locate ancient civilizations remains to learn more about the past. But the whole point of the project is to help the future so all we can do at the present is to make sure there is possibility of that for the future generations and civilizations.
@@TrolledBy Your hypothesis makes no sense at all. How could people thousands of years from now have any knowledge of this place?? I am alive at the same time that this facility is operational, I am also fully utilizing the technology of the Information Age and this is the FIRST time I've ever heard of this place. If it's largely unknown in today's world why would its legacy continue for thousands of years? After this project is completed in 100 years, they will disassemble the building and the site will be forgotten. Since when have people ever referred to ancient buildings as expensive?? The cost of the Great Pyramids probably very high but no cares.
This kinda reminds me of an issue that the US rangers encountered when trying to design trash cans that are bear and animal proof in their parks, and the quote was: "There's a thin veiled line in between the smartest of bears' capacity, and the dumbest of tourists one when trying to build such devices".
Damn it when Simon said "about as healthy as snorting..... Anthrax" I was waiting on my Boi with the blaze to come out and say cocaine. It's weird watching serious Simon after watching Business Blaze.
I seem to remember a detail in metallurgy class about when copper and iron are in contact, corrosion happens. Plumbers don't connect pipes made of these two metals because of this. I suggest a placing this stuff in a shaft that goes down into an active and relatively fast-moving subduction zone. Then over time, the crust containing this stuff will pull it downward deeper into the mantle of the earth where it will never be accessible again.
just let the last few minutes sink in for a while... this is probably the biggest megaproject any human ever in in existence could have done up until this point in time
This is your best video yet. Thought provoking, interesting and really well presented. Your time line analogy made these so much easier to understand. Loved it.
"You'd be dead as a Norwegian Parrot." I'd have Lovely Plumage though, right Simon? Either way, I don't believe I'd be dead. Just tired after a nice long squawk.
So far Covid hasn't affected the construction of Onkalo. Finland has allowed flying for the people who come from foreign countries and are important for its' construction. For now that is
"The vast majority of respondents tested in an eleven-country survey [Brazil, Mexico, Morocco, Kenya, Saudi Arabia, China, India, Thailand, Poland, Ukraine and the USA] had no idea what the symbol meant nor had any knowledge of radiation. In fact, only 6% of those questioned in India, Brazil and Kenya could recognize the trefoil symbol for what it was" (Drop It And Run! by Linda Lodding). I had to go look up a source, because that's a distressing statistic.
I have actually worked on the exact same effort in Sweden, which uses the same design and plan. They have chosen my very town for this effort. I briefly worked with the organisation responsible, known here as the SKB, monitoring the environment at the test sites in the region to check how such efforts affects the geology and ecosystem.
Pretend you want people who are not involved in whatever industry uses the term "SPC" facility to understand your comment. Please at least spell it out, or otherwise explain it.
Fun fact - as a part of the long-term safety asessment for the Onkalo waste disposal facility, the climate modelling for the next 500 000 years had been done, with the analysis on how the ice sheet might affect the waste stored. Yeah, those analyses were that much scrupulous