FUZZ FIGHT! Plasma Vs. Behringer

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Ryan follows up on a comment that the $300 Plasma Pedal by Game Changer Audio sounds like a $30 pedal by playing it against the $25 Behringer Super Fuzz, a plastic boxed Boss FZ-2 clone. Stay tuned as he plays out through the DOD Carcosa just for fun.
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@SpaceDisco1 5 лет назад

Honestly, when I first looked at the Plasma Pedal as a fuzz pedal, I thought it sounded horrible - not like a fuzz at all. But when I thought about it from a non-labelled perspective, it is actually quite a unique distortion. It really drives the idea of „broken“ guitar sound directly into a concrete wall at 200km/h. And for that I think it‘s absolutely amazing.

@daveydoom5479 5 лет назад

The super fuzz sounds like Electric Wizard 🤘🤘🤘

@ViviSectia 5 лет назад

It's a clone of the pedal Electric Wizard uses to get their sound.

@daveydoom5479 5 лет назад

ViviSectia yeah I know the fz2. Boss needs to waza that shit ASAP haha

@OGbrundle 4 года назад

@@daveydoom5479 fuzzlord effects fu-2, you're welcome.

@givemedatbass8806 3 года назад

Listening via my iPad and the plasma kills it. There’s no comparison here and that’s through an iPad! I can imagine how good it would sound through my system.

@anilyazar_ 5 лет назад

noise coming between chord changes are superb from plasma

@manfredvonrichthofen8293 5 лет назад

leş gibi pedal yaw

@anilyazar_ 5 лет назад

@@manfredvonrichthofen8293 aynen

@ryanlusby569 5 лет назад

That sound you’re talking about is honestly the noise every type of fuzz tries to achieve lol.

@ec8107 5 лет назад

I absolutely love the gated, scratchy, broken plasma. I love to hate on the cost of gear like the next guy, but I have to give credit where credit is due.

@CLaw-tb5gg 5 лет назад

I've not tried it but I can imagine it sound horrible in a mix. Stuff that messy-sounding just isn't audible in a mix without serious work, typically. And you shouldn't really have to do that.

@SpaceDisco1 4 года назад

Charles Carr You just need to put it loud enough. I played a couple times live with one and it has the same issue as every distortion: without a boost it sounds more silent if used at union vol. However, the filter section helps a bit. But yeah, it‘s not that different to other distortions in that regard.

@Pinewellgaze 3 года назад

@@CLaw-tb5gg I know four year strong used it on they're new record from this year, that albums guitars sound so good, too so idk

@RISCGames 3 года назад

*I have to give credit card where credit card is due ;- )

@harls7317 Год назад

Stop the cap brother EC squeezy

@PanikJoker 5 лет назад

Behringer make surprisingly good pedals

@jacktrent5648 5 лет назад

I agree, I have the hellbabe wah and one of their overdrives.

@timothymuscat1728 5 лет назад

As long as they're on; when off they completely suck the tone of your guitar.

@EversonBernardes 5 лет назад

They're great platforms for modding. Changing values, switching for better components, adding stuff like true bypass, etc.

@Voxshades 5 лет назад

Behringer clones surprisingly good pedals.

@adamfox9651 5 лет назад

The Behringer pedals can't be beat for the price. The only downside is the cheap plastic housing, which isn't very sturdy. However, if you don't treat them like a roughneck, they'll serve you well. I also like the Danelectro FAB pedals, which are also cheap and plastic, but do the job.

@thomdushane 5 лет назад

I dig how the plasma accentuates the small things like your fingers simply sliding on the strings and picking. Very lofi grimy goodness.

@chriscook5116 5 лет назад

thom dushane YES! This, so much. And I think so many are lost on that. Just listen to the playing dynamics, so clear and responsive on the Plasma, and just so-so on the Behringer. Yeah, they’re both fuzzes...and that’s about all they have in common.

@argenteus8314 4 года назад

@@chriscook5116 Exactly, the sound of the plasma pedal is so distinct I almost feel it's worth the money. Hell, if I had more of it, it definitely would be.

@Finniganmydog 5 лет назад

Yep the DOD Carcosa is a versatile monster, that also does an awesome aggressive low gain overdrive as well. Glad to see you still love it Ryan. It is never leaving my board.

@pasqualevaccaro5506 5 лет назад

Sf300 is Electric Wizard in a box, definitely

@gfunkk 4 года назад

yeah sabbath was definitely my first thought when he clicked it on.

@nickmetal131 5 лет назад

I just played the Plasma today when I dropped off my Flying V for a setup. It was cool on guitar, but I really think it shines on bass. I played a USA Fender Jazz bass into the Plasma into an Egnater Tweaker guitar combo. Absolutely massive sounding. It's hard to describe. It was like being enveloped in a three dimensional wave of fuzz/distortion.

@joelmiddaugh8229 5 лет назад

That static electricity sound from the Plasma is to die for. That would sound just great on a recording.

@kirabarsmith9353 5 лет назад

I like the broken sound of the Plasma too, the Carcosa is the winner though no doubt. Bought a few models from the DOD pedal line and have yet to be disappointed, so much bang for the buck.

@Briansgate 3 года назад

you just showed these, and I came to check to see if you checked out the fuzz, and here you are. Thanks for everything, Ryan!

@xytrouble07 5 лет назад

Everyone here is talking how expensive the plasma is. When I was in high school all I wanted was a zvex wholly mammoth. An almost $400 pedal.I got my first real job and I bought it after 6 months of saving up. 8 years later I still own it and still use it. Just saying

@60CycleHumcast 5 лет назад

Kevin Chavez I try not to make commentary on prices too often because people have different budgets and different kinds of manufacturing. But the plasma has a unique custom case design and actually has a pretty unique sound. If someone really wants that sound this is where they can get it. And it looks freaking cool. It’s not like there aren’t a sea of affordable fuzzes out there too.

@exquisitearc8498 5 лет назад

It’s still expensive ... people don’t like expensive

@60CycleHumcast 5 лет назад

some people don't like cheap. personally, i like it all.

@TritonSeibert 5 лет назад

Built that pedal for a bass player friend for $20 worth of parts... I charged him 40 lol

@howardanderson3061 5 лет назад

You make a good point about pricing, it's different for every one. When I find a pedal that I must, I justsearch very hard for the best used price. This process has served me well.

@chiefbucknell 5 лет назад

Thank you! This video lead me to your excellent DOD Carcosa video, and I found a deal on a Carcosa on Reverb - I’m so happy! I’ve been chasing that “splatty, Velcro, broken, nasal” fuzz sound for some time!

@flabens 5 лет назад

That Plasma pedal, more I hear it, more I like it. It got something different in its sound compared to other fuzz pedals.

@martinn8044 5 лет назад

I know bugger all about pedals but the SF300 pleases my ears more. But at the end of the day it is down to personal preference and the sounds you desire. If that sound is worth $300 then it's an awesome buy.

@gilgamessianic 5 лет назад

Guess I'm in the minority but i actually really like the plasma pedal. Not gonna drop the dough on it though

@erlannderrantem6972 5 лет назад

I did, i was amongst the super early bird buyers and for 129€ its really worth it!

@howardanderson3061 5 лет назад

yes i think the plasma is way better

@illegal_space_alien 4 года назад

I think we can agree that is sounds good. However, does it sound $300 good? That's the tough pill to swallow. If it were half that price, a lot of people would be all over that. Instead, we are happy enough to spend $30 on an FZ-2 clone. Also, I'd be worried about that plasma tube being fragile, and breaking if the pedalboard gets too jostled in transit or accidentally nudged while playing.

@Pumpkin_Fart 4 года назад

This video is nearly 2 years old and no Waza FZ-2 in sight....WTF?! Seriously, that's the best idea I've heard in some time.

@theopinionatedbastard3485 5 лет назад

That SG looks awesome.

@tylerdurden4248 5 лет назад

It’s an exact clone of the Univox super fuzz! Only one coast $1000 and the other $30 super fuzz is amazing and behringer makes a lot of people look like fools

@josephhamer9680 4 года назад

I agree Behringer makes some good shit for very cheap, but I'd never put one on my board. They arent really built to withstand heavy gigging.

@mattgilbert7347 2 года назад

@@josephhamer9680 Dude I've asked people to send me photos of broken Behringer pedals and so far, nada. It's plastic but it's tough.

@TUSKEN_KUSH 2 года назад

Can be rehouse in a metal encasing

@ericleon6482 2 года назад

@@josephhamer9680 How do you know that "They arent really built to withstand heavy gigging" if you've never had one before, lol....

@moonchild4806 5 лет назад

They both sound great, but I honestly dig the sound of the SF300 more. Plasma is a bit crazier, and I could honestly see using it in a metal setting. I bet it would sound decent through my bass amp. Definitely gonna pick one up at that price.

@FretFriendLaGR 5 лет назад

The Behringer is just great!

@evanwilliams8908 5 лет назад

The gate effect on the fuzz is really cool. Both sound great.

@spacealienjesus709 5 лет назад

The Super Fuzz sounds better.. Electric Wizard fuzz all the way.. Getting it now..

@bivotarshamble3672 Год назад

Dude for real... You own that fuzz pedal and you like it ! 😂

@nickspitzley8539 5 лет назад

Sweet. For 25 bucks that rocks! Get that and the Behringer octave and play all the Jack white tunes you want.

@pyropixel354 5 лет назад

Nick Spitzley I have both XD, the octaves isn’t as good as the fuzz though

@justinhayes3434 5 лет назад

You dont really need an octave. It has an octave up effect when you get above the 12th fret.

@VintageSlide 5 лет назад

The Behringer octave has terrible tracking. Sounds good, and works on stuff like ”icky thump”, but its terrible for anything from cleans to fuzz. The tone needs to be beoynd fuzz so you dont hear the tracking time.

@mattgilbert7347 2 года назад

I agree about the Fuzz, for octave stuff without Fuzz I'd use a Mooer Tender Octaver. An *almost* exact POG2 clone. The Mk.1 was an exact clone. Mooer got sued lol. Mk.2 is slightly different but still awesome.

@jacktowers7533 5 лет назад

Needed to hear some Touch me I'm sick when playing through the super fuzz

@hotdogwater7037 4 года назад

i played that riff with my fz-2 yesterday! you need a big muff too for the full effect tho

@sassycat 5 лет назад

I am more comfortable with the sounds of the SF300 but the Carcosa definitely grabs my attention, much more than the Plasma.

@nobodymove7340 5 лет назад

I freaking love that broken gated sound!

@lachlan1971 4 года назад

I bought a Carcosa as soon as they came out. Fantastic pedal.

@eyeball226 4 года назад

I love the SF300, I don't hear the blanket effect you mention. Sounds pretty bright to me!

@howardanderson3061 5 лет назад

Plasma sounds killer! I'm a Fuzz nut and generally find, you get what you pay for but for the money the Behringer is OK. The Plasma has the cool graphics display its awesome. Love it!

@BrianClem 2 года назад

The plasma pedal is so raw and electrocution-like. It's LIVE. Just the fade after playing, the pop and hair raising feel is so cool. Can't afford it. But if I had this it would certainly be a fun time.

@HomoChomsky 5 лет назад

The Super Fuzz sounds like a blast to play, but you're right, the Plasma seems better thought out for band settings. Too expensive for my budget, but I'll be damned if this isn't one of the best gated fuzz sounds I ever heard. If my Fuzzhugger Algal Bloom didn't serve me so well, I would get a Carcosa without hesitating, though.

@60CycleHumcast 5 лет назад

Heyman Heyguys there are so many great fuzzes out there

@SgtPnkks 5 лет назад

a fun option for broken fuzz sound is the ibanez fz7

@ToneSherpa 3 года назад

On that Berenger you can put the switch between mode 1 and 2 and it sounds way better than either one. It doesn't have the mid boost or the scoop. It kind of just sounds nice and even. I'ma probably tape mine.

@darklight4815 Год назад

The super fuzz is killer...on both settings,use mine all the time and have another for a backup if it breaks or they go extinct...but that plasma would be nice to have for the gnarly fuzz it gets...and that flux capacitor on the display is the most badass feature of any pedal I've ever seen.

@TheIst0NE 3 года назад

Carcosa!!!!!

@D_Vitch 5 лет назад

Also surf rock is definitely your genre! That quick picking right hand technique is fantastic

@bryanruiz636 5 лет назад

@thenonebadh 5 лет назад

I followed your discussion on the first Plasma-Video. The idea to give some alternatives is not bad, but the Plasma is a one of a kind Pedal. In some Namm videos the guys of gamechanger talked about how this thing works - and its not diode-clipping and not overdriving of amplifierparts(Transistors, op-amps,etc). What comes out of this pedal is the sound that is generated by the "lightings" in the tube - i would compare it to these guys which play their guitar thru a teslacoil(sounds exactly the same for me). Maybe you can get a standard fuzzpedal with a similiar sound - but a clone for 30 quid? i dont think so. In the end its a shiny novelty thing - like the candledriven tremolo/vibrato-"pedal" by zvex.

@DiMo28 5 лет назад

The Ibanez FZ7 pedal does the gated fuzz sound and can be found around $30 on eBay.

@calhoungames 5 лет назад

I'm gonna definitely have to buy the plasma, super into that broken sound.

@rowlandstraylight 5 лет назад

I think there's a lot of scope for using the plasma pedal in recording without the guitars turning to mush, particularly with denser arrangements.

@roscoepcoltrane23 5 лет назад

Plasma pedal is awesome. Played one the other night through 4 amps and 4 4x12’s it was a wall of badass.

@grangerousdesigns4678 3 года назад

I really dig the behringer fuzz pedal. The plasma fuzz does its own thing well but the super fuzz sounded killer.

@argenteus8314 4 года назад

As expensive as it is, I fucking love the sound of the plasma pedal. Wish I could afford it, because the sound seems totally distinct.

@Robert-dt3is 4 года назад

The plasma pedal is like a high definition TV but on your ears.

@MondoJim 5 лет назад

It was not your imagination about the FZ clone. The issue with the FZ-2 is/was most of the settings only work when you demo it/play solo. It's mostly useless in a band setting. When your mids go (and a good chunk of your highs go as well), the guitar disappears into the rest of the band. Might as well be the FZ-2 Mute Pedal, at least at rock drummer band volume levels. I've not played the Plasma Pedal but it seems like it might be cutting enough to be practical. And that crazy staticy envelope sounds pretty fun!

@waltersmetak 5 лет назад

The Berhinger fuzz is an exactly clone of a boss hyper fuzz. The only difference is that it costs US$ 250 less......

@jonathanwapner6262 5 лет назад

Where are they selling Hyper Fuzz for $275?

@RayQuazawski 5 лет назад

Bro do you even math?

@KentBuchla 5 лет назад

Dude thinks that $ is the only cost.

@waltersmetak 5 лет назад

@@KentBuchla Nope. I have the Fz2, which I was able to buy for under $200. Like you, I snubbed the behringer (yeah, I know their story of patent theft and so on....), but, frankly, couldn't hear the difference. The construction is another ball game - the behringer is encased in cheap, plastic box - flimsy to the bitter end. The boss is built like a tank - but, again, the sound is the same.

@DarkAvatar1313 4 года назад

@@jonathanwapner6262 iirc, they don't make the FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz anymore so they can be expensive on Reverb, just like a HM-2 Heavy Metal, especially a Japanese made one (opposed to a Taiwan model.)

@DEATHWATCH2033 5 лет назад

I remember watching a video from one of the guitar cons and the plasma sounded so much clearer and it was more of a distortion.

@letz_getschwifty9785 2 года назад

Behringer is great value for money, perfect for a starting off musician or for anyone wanting to save money. But that Plasma pedal is insanely good, there's better clarity that cuts through while still offering that broken sound. Also you've got to love the built in noise gate!

@rareform6747 3 года назад

I like to say Muffs & Boost Fuzz are made for an all TUBE AMP !

@UltimateAccuracy 5 лет назад

A boost in front of the SF300 removes much of the blanket effect. TC Spark Mini works a treat. SF300 really is a Fuzz bargain and a great intro for people just getting into the greatest species of pedal. Fuzz On...

@1sttvbn 5 лет назад

The Governor in Exile Got mine on sale for $240.00..... Love it!

@earlycuyler2295 5 лет назад

My hands down favorite fuzz(and the single greatest guitar pedal ever made) is the 80s big muff pi. The behringer copies the muff syle fuzz so well one could use it instead of figiting with settings onstage.i used it like that for quite a while. Currently i use one to mimic Original "super fuzz" pedals. Dime the treble, cut all the bass set the gain to just under 9 o'clock, fuzz 1. Volume is between you and your compresion circuits but i leave mine at 9 o'clock so it doesnt saturate to far. Its perfect for that brassy, trombone like, fuzz of the mid 60s. The boost is good to.its very precise, more so than my mxr micro amp. You can dial it it to your amp and get just the beginings of breaking up.add any distortion or a second booster before it and you get a creammy, thick ear popping tone.Im working on a rehouse project but surface mount jacks are a bitch.ive only ever seen a fz2 but if its half as good as this but in a boss case theyd have trouble selling the waza version until this pedal vanishes.

@davidphipps3 4 года назад

Really enjoy your channel! What’s the story with that beautiful one-humbucker Explorer behind you?

@christwilson3267 5 лет назад

$300 is steep, but damn, I really prefer the plasma--edit: carcosa snuck it's way into my heart

@60CycleHumcast 5 лет назад

Christ Wilson the carcosa is a beast!

@ancientradiations2126 5 лет назад

I use the hell out of my carcosa. Super cool pedal.

@prignony 5 лет назад

Less than 200€ right now BF sells

@christwilson3267 5 лет назад

Update-carcosa is on my board, and it's a keeper.

@Wilbafarce 4 года назад

Carcosa with a decent boost, high fives all round!

@aidanrobinson1206 5 лет назад

I love the Super Fuzz but they are EXTREMELY prone to breaking. I’ve ordered 3 and 2 of them arrived completely dysfunctional and the other worked for less than a month

@agostinodemarcus3617 4 года назад

hi, which one would you suggest between the bheringer super fuzz anche the tc electronics rusty fuzz or honey pot?

@sunlounger29 5 лет назад

Thanks! 😊

@ohmuseek4290 2 года назад

That plasma is a dream

@ConocimientoOcultozine 5 лет назад

that carcosa at the end tho. Damn son

@davidostray6207 4 года назад

What amp are you using ? Alot of low end. Love it.

@bernadettedonofrio1074 5 лет назад

The fidelity of the plasma is far superior and you can hear the difference on the iPad with earphones

@AlbannachGamer 5 лет назад

should get your hands on the nine of swords twin earth fuzz

@versnellingspookie 5 лет назад

A friend of mime has that behringer pedal, it sounds really good in person actually

@mykhedelic6471 5 лет назад

Sigh, that Plasma does sound pretty good. But, for $25, the Berry is sludgy murder. Ive been trying to gather an army of cheap fuzz boxes and picked up an SF and have been very happy with it. I like all fuzz tones, but ya, that busted, scorched earth brimstone crackle is my favorite fuzz tone. Fuzz can be velvet or a wire brush, it's the most visceral of all distortions. God bless da Fuzz. Thanks for your video.

@Millennial_Mike 3 года назад

Plasma sounds fantastic!

@jeffc4862 3 года назад

Damn - Sounds like everything I liked about the Plasma, can be done with the Carcosa for 1/3 (or less) the price.

@thomasraven 5 лет назад

Might wanna try a variety of pickups. Some fuzzes really shine with single coils.

@vintagepipesnightmares 4 года назад

Check out the clean boost of that Behringer. It is amazing!!! Amazing !!!

@JamesMcCutcheon 4 года назад

I wish I had access to pedals in 1965 when I got my 1st rig. Silvertone 1484 amp. Silvertone Silhouette guitar, finally I found a used Kent Distorter. 15.00 USD from a bass player.

@ZoranSandorov 5 лет назад

Very very good observation.I am interesting in your appinion of TC Rusty fuzz

@60CycleHumcast 5 лет назад

I like the rusty fuzz, i had one for awhile and sold it just because i had too many fuzzes. kind of wish i kept it

@JayEdom 2 года назад

That plasma is like certain tones from zvex fuzzfactory

@VSPhotfries 5 лет назад

They're both on my lottery list. Yes, even the $30 one. I'm cheap and already have a Swollen Pickle...

@StuartBridson 5 лет назад

Which GFS pickups are they, Ryan? Is that one of their P180s in the bridge? I actually prefer the sound of the Carcosa over the Plasma too tbh.

@adammercy3588 9 месяцев назад

So, i gotta say i owned the behringer and boss pedals, and the behringer actually had a wider sounding high end, which helped with clarity. I used a gate to reduce excess noise without having the broken sound. A great use of these pedals is to not use it for blues, but for metal rhythm. These are so nasty when playing lower than drop D, and it just sounds beautiful.

@geraldhartley 3 года назад

5:04 “there’s a clarity to this fuzz”. Isn’t that an oxymoron? 🤣

@jordanmayer5932 5 лет назад

Ive been wanting the carcosa for a while now. Gonna have to grab it soon.

@jamwayofaiken-augustarockb7643 Год назад

Sweet SG! I have the SF because Josh said same price as a cup of coffee. Not much of a fuzz guy, but i like the first setting that gives some octave action up the neck. The Plasma and the Third Man Plasma are incredible.

@_MetaL Год назад

what if i told you, that you can have more octave action and the pedal has 5 modes in total at least to my knowledge by getting the switch inbetween modes.

@vintagepipesnightmares 4 года назад

Sf 300 it is an octa fuzz . It is not filtering it is the octaver.Both settings have octave in them. But push it with an tube screamer.

@SteveDave227 4 года назад

Maybe it comes down to the fact that they're different circuits. AMAZING that two different pedals sound different from one another. Must be the price!

@johnrogers2826 2 года назад

Can't help but think of Knuckledragger by Devil To Pay, when hearing some fuzz.

@TheRealCaptainFreedom 5 лет назад

That Plasma tone is as fuzzy as late-60s-era beavers. Props for resisting the urge to play Now I Wanna Be Your Dog by the Stooges. But for $25 bucks the Behringer is a steal. Carcosa me gusta.

@creepingnet 5 лет назад

I loved the FZ-2, I think the Behringer does great, it's a bit more of the buzzy sound, screams more 60's, but the Plasma seems more modern and experimental overall. Honestly, my favorite is the goofey 5 knob multivoltage beast I built myself.

@thewhyzardinblack4808 5 лет назад

Electric Wizard 🤘🏾

@frankb5728 5 лет назад

the plasma does it's own thing, if all you want is a fuzz that Behringer pedal sounds pretty damn good for the price and is very versatile.

@wdiprod 5 лет назад

I thought the fuzz 1 setting on the behringer was closer sounding to the Plasma than the fuzz 2 setting. The fuzz 1 setting sounded pretty good on the behringer, although not exactly like the plasma. Can you dial back the fuzz sound on the behringer? Doesn't really seam like you can do that on the Plasma.

@triplesevensix291 5 лет назад

That lightning bolt is cool as fuck but on a budget give me the Behringer any day! I happen to love Behringer stomp boxes & most of their stuff is fucking awesome for the price!! It really is.

@bensinger6031 4 года назад

The Carcosa slaps.

@franklucas9313 3 года назад

if you try a simple bbe sonic stomp after the SF300 it really takes the blanket sound away. should try that ! works great for me

@beeflin 3 года назад

They are two different kinds of fuzz so I agree they're not really comparable - both have a place.

@JC-fj7oo 4 года назад

You might want to check out another fz-2 clone called a demon lung. It doesn't seem to have the blanket sound. They are pretty expensive though.

@rexcellencemagee6729 Год назад

I agree, big difference, I’ve been using EHX since I was a kid and nothing compares for me, I have so many other things going on like an Avalanch run that changes everything anyway! Nice job! But for 25 bucks, it’s a great starter.

@justinhayes3434 5 лет назад

Turn the treble and bass down on the sf300. I love that pedal. I run it through a super reverb. Jack White tones all day long.

@jean-luclezede3898 5 месяцев назад

I own a Super fuzz berhinger and an electro- harmonix double muff. The super fuzz costs 27 euros and gives me plain satisfaction. The double- muff isn't enough fuzzy, and there is too much hum and noise to combine the 2 muff on high level. The plasma pedal seems cool but is x10 more expensive than the super fuzz.