Watch as several Luftwaffe pilots, and one of their wives, get into the cockpit of the Bf 109 then housed at Champlin Fighter Museum, Mesa Arizona. Watch the Start up of the ultra rare Fw 190 D-13 and more!
My father what was a fighter pilot during the battle of Britain in 1940 and became an ace at the age 18 that was early in the was he flew hurricanes then transferred too spitfires Early in the war he fought against me-109,s And hinkle 111,s and Stuka JU-87,s later on in the war he had the miss fortune of meeting up with a FW190 over occupied Belgium where he was forced to bail out of his spitfire. He was wounded in this encounter but was lucky that he survived And that he was taken in by a good family and cared for And four weeks later he returned to his squadron that was the day he met the butcher bird he stayed in the Royal Air Force until 1972 My brothers and I Grew up in many different countries of the world . I just wanted too thank you for The fantastic history that you share on your channel keep up the great work and thank you .
The Flying Heritage and Combat Armor museum dont fly the FW 190 D13 because its the only one left in the world. They are currently assembling their restored Ju-87 Stuka and restoring an Me-262 with refurbished engine parts to make it more reliable. Both will fly soon.
@@cartersmith8560 The museum considers the D-13 as a single example and too rare to fly and I agree with that. It was restored again several years ago and this corrected many things and located missing parts. A lot of people describe it as "airworthy" but I never saw any indication that the engine was fully gone over well enough and bench tested to certify it for flight. There are other long-nose Dora projects but nothing that will fly any time soon.
@Jon Borry The Fw-190 is the only airworthy example in the world (at this time) but not not the last example. There are others which could be returned to airworthy condition. There are two flyable IL-2 now, the second completed by the same Russian workshop. (And there is a third IL-2 lake recovery they will be restored.) The D-13 is the only surviving D-13. Plus I don't think it was actually fully restored to flyable condition but very close. I have no problem with it staying on the ground. Funny that two Fw190D projects were available within the last 10 years, and FHCAM could have gotten a Dora project to build a flying example with a realistic chance of finishing the project. I am also surprised that the museum has not sought a Bf-109G for the collection.
The 190 "long nose" is one of my favorite aircraft. What I really look forward to, though, is the restoration of the JU-87 Stuka. I would love to see it fly at an air show. They could reproduce the infamous screaming dive sirens that terrified Europe for the first half of the war.
@@paulhicks6667 Indeed. With enemy fighters in the area they desperately needed fighter escort while operating which couldn't be provided because of the Bf 109s limited fuel capacity.
Pascal Chauvet What makes the Focke-Wulf "long-nose" 190D so special is that it actually was a makeshift solution. The high altitude performance of the original 190 with the radial engine left much to be desired, a problem that was never really solved. So it as a logical step to replace it by a V-12 engine like the Daimler-Benz 605 which powered the Messerschmitt BF190 G and K series and offered much better high altitud performance. Unfortunately there were not enough of thes DB 605 engines available, so Kurt Tank (responsible for the 190's development) was instrutcted to use the Junkers Jumo 213 V-12 engine which was a bomber engine used on the Junkers Ju88. Supposably Tank did not like the heavier Jumo 213 engine but he had no choice. Despite Tank's dislike of the Jumo 213 engine the Focke-Wulf 190D was actually a very good fighter aircraft, similar in performance to the P-51 Mustang. In the late stages of the war many of the available Focke-Wulf 190D were used to protect Messerschmitt 262 jet fighter aircraft when they were most vulnerable, during takeoff and landing. These 190D wer painted bright red on the underside to avoid being shot down by the own FLAK. I can only think of one WW2 aircraft being a similar makeshift solution and still having much success in operations: The Bristol Beaufighter. Its predecessor was the underpowered Bristol Beaufort Torpedo Bomber, incapable of maintaining height on one engine. Bristol took the Beaufort's wings, mated it to much more powerful Bristol Hercules sleeve-valve engines, designed a new fuselage and there it was, the Beaufighter multi-role combat aircraft used as night fighter, naval bomber, torpedo bomber, etc. Yet in the beginning there was an interim solution within the interim solution. At first the powerful Bristol Hercules radial engines were not available. With Britain desperately in need for a capable night fighter aircraft, according to Bill Gunston in his book "The development of piston aero engines", Rolls-Royce and Morris Motors worked day and night to develop a Merlin "power egg" engine installation with integrated chin radiator which made possible the Bristol Beaufighter II night fighter. While this was underpowered because it had been designed for the more powerful Bristol Hercules and soon was replaced in service, its self-contained "power egg" engine intallation made possible the AVRO Lancaster because only minimal changes were necessary to fit these on the Lancaster wing. So, how about putting a Bristol Beaufighter on display next to the Focke-Wulf 190D?
LivingInTheLimeligh7 The NASM has done some work on the Ta-152. The wooden sections were starting to rot so they have started repairs. They also discovered that the AAF modified the wooden tail with steel plate to make it stronger over concerns of poor quality glues. So they had to research and rebuild the tail back to original German specifications. I agree that it would be nice to see the restoration make more progress, but the NASM is also researching it.
Love that fw190 Dora what a beautiful aircraft it is the bf 109 is a nice aircraft to wish I had a Dora just even just to sit in it and look at it dreams are free.
Thank you so much for posting this. I visited Yellow 10 twice the last two years - I always liked the looks and performance of the D9, and the D13 is even better. Alas we probably won't see her started up ever again, but at least there is this video and another from back when she was owned by Mr. Champlin.
Well thank you so much for your answer. I find it difficult to imagine the situation on the fighter airfields in the late stages of the war, with fuel shortages, constant allied attacks etc., and mechanics running around with a brush and cans of paint to follow RLM camo directives as if this could have changed anything on the course of the war. I guess that men under extreme stress just do what they are told to do, firm orders providing a certain amount of security
The kids that told their families they were off to be fighter pilots, yet never got closer than flying that crankrod for the flywheel. Also you just know that in the haste of air attacks there were starter buttons pressed before the rod was clear; smashed arms and all. Always thought Model T owners had similar tales of woe. Beautiful craft she is, Dora.
Franz Stigler, Luftwaffe hero. He helped and guided the shredded B-17 "Outhouse Mouse" through Germany and to the safety of allied airspace from which it made a crash landing on UK soil.
Such a menacing looking a/c even on the ground. Too rare to fly, but such a shame to be a hangar queen. My favorite axis a/c, the whole FW family, Kurt Tank- You built a great plane!
+A Shore I think you mean the Do-335. The AAF tested the D-9 series and got 413 mph at max throttle at 20,000 feet. The D-13 had a little more power so it could have pushed a little faster.
+nightjarflying That big paddle-blade prop on the D-13 made a difference biting the air at high altitude. That prop is still missing from the current restoration.
Thanks. I think the standard wartime FW 190 D-13/R11 probably rarely [or never] achieved the speeds I indicated under operational conditions: inferior or rare spares & sub-standard variable quality [dirty] oil & fuel.
@@mariannepompa4152 there is a story that when Kurt Tank went to test fly a Ta152, during the flight he was spotted by 3 P51D's Mustang's. All he did was open the throttle with MW50 and left them for dead. Out run the Mustang's. I agree Ta152 is the next level fighter.
Have seen it several times, absolutely the most spectacular fighter plane of the second world war - would've loved to have been there on an occasion when they started it up. Fantastic piece of history. Also got to see the unrestored on the Smithsonian had at their Silver Hill storage site ages ago, don't know if it's been restored since or not, but it was great seeing it still wearing its original faded WWII paint and markings.
+nachtjager77 The Dora with Smithsonian was preserved back in the 1970s, I believe, and is on loan to the USAF Museum. It is a little rough around the edges and I think that it needs another trip through the restoration shop to bring it up to contemporary standards. Although I doubt that will be a priority any time soon. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pbQVdx5PvOk.html
Yep, have seen that one several times. I was confused on the designation the one the Smithsonian still has - it's actually a legit Ta-152H and is apparently still sitting at their Silver Hill, Maryland storage facility. Got my curiosity up when I looked at your linked video - have seen that one at Dayton for years. The one in Maryland, in my humble opinion, should be left alone as it's still wearing its original WWII paint, but, they say they're going to restore it. But, then again, it looked exactly like this about fifteen or eighteen years ago when I saw it, so obviously, they're not moving real fast or taking it as a priority. They also had the Arado float plane off the Prinz Eugen in there, and the Gotha 229 flying wing, which was in awful shape, but once again, I don't think the Gotha should be restored, just reassembled and left in its original 1945 paint. Thanks for the link.
+nachjager77 The example in the USAF Museum is a D-9 owned by the Smithsonian. The Ta-152 that is with the Smithsonian has had several layers of paint since it was captured, and this was typical for those planes while they were with the British and the AAF. The Smithsonian will have to sand down through the layers to document the original paint and repaint it when they finally get around to restoring it. If the plane had been in service for a very long time, the Smithsonian would also sand and document each layer of paint that would have been applied by the Luftwaffe. The AAF actually modified the tail of the Ta-152 with steel plate because they thought that the tail would break off in flight. So I am sure that the Smithsonian is having to undo those modifications to return the Ta-152 back to original condition. The Ho-229 prototype was not even fully complete when it was captured and some work and assembly was done after the Allies had it. The paint is just a junk layer that was put on by the AAF. It would be better to see it down to wood or the green fireproof paint that would have been applied at the factory. But the Smithsonian will probably preserve that fake paint job as part of its history.
Watched this again and noticed that the gal in the cockpit is cute. Didn't see her the last time I viewed it. It was the guys cranking away on the hand starting system.
@cody sonnet Simply untrue. The Fw190Ds and Bf109Ks had respectable engine performance but were not as fast as the P51 and P47. At 21,000 ft the P51D could reach 445mph (715kph). The P47D could reach about 430 mph (695 kph). The Fw190D, equipped for maximum engine performance (which not all were, there were many variant), but the D-9 as you mentioned could manage 426 mph. The 109G (most common 109 variant, even in 1945), could reach 400 mph at 20,500ft. The 109k is unusual in that it has 440 mph "maximum emergency speed", which is faster than a P47. However, the "maximum combat speed" of the 109K is 415mph. The only German propeller aircraft faster than late-war American props were the Ta152 and Dornier 335. The 335 was an experimental plane and never used in combat. The Ta152 was produced in very small numbers and was uncommon. The P51 and P47 were heavier than the 109G/K models and 190A/D. The differences in speed would become even greater in a dive. These are just numbers. In combat it's very unlikely all aircraft are traveling at the aforementioned top speeds, so it isn't a fully reliable measure of combat speeds but is telling nonetheless. The Luftwaffe in 1945 was a shell of what it was in 1940; Luftwaffe pilots were often new, inexperienced, and outnumbered. According to allied accounts, German pilots would often bail out a few minutes into air combat or when an allied aircraft was on their tail. My point is... there were no axis propeller planes outracing allied aircraft. Only the Me262 was capable of such a task.
@@willykaranikolas2391 so if you say the Ta 152H and the Do 335 was the fastest props in the war why did you say only the Me 262 beat US props in speed ?
@@xx_lightning_xx5781 Because the Do 335 was never once used in combat (it did outrun a Hawker Tempest during one it's test flights, but was never armed). As for the Ta152, an extremely limited number of them ever saw service. The early prototypes had a lot of problems, and the Ta152 H-1 did not reach Luftwaffe squadrons until January/February of 1945.... As for it's combat record, its believed to have achieved 7 air kills in exchange for 4 shot down; telling of how little service it actually saw in comparison to 109s and 190s. Both these propeller aircraft were very very rare; the Do335 wasn't even used, and the chances of allied pilots encountering a 152 are negligible in this discussion. So yes, aside from the very few 152s, the 262 was the only thing outrunning allied aircraft in late-war.
For a short time the Messerschmitt flew beside the bomber. Then it slid away, above and behind. Brown waited for the gunfire that must mean the end of Ye Olde Pub. Nothing happened. He realized to his astonishment that the German fighter was flying escort on the B-17. As they crossed the coastline and flew out over the North Sea the fighter remained on station. Only when they were well out from the German coast did the fighter slide in again, close to the bomber. Brown looked across - the German pilot looked back at him, raised a gloved hand in salute and then swung his aircraft away, back towards the east.
I remember seeing this FW 190 at that museum, would have been around 1990, and I was dissapointed it was the inline engine and not the radial; THEN I read the book FW 190 in combat and the story of how the designer was delivering one the new planes, glad that it had no ammo in it, since he was a civilian, and was very light, when jumped on take off by US P-51's - he hit the throttle stick and watched the Mustangs shrink in the rearview mirror and dsiiappear - it could out run angry diving P-51's from a standing start!
Both camouflage schemes of the D 13 shown look fantastic. I would probably prefer the latter, the mottled one I mean, because it represents the makeshift solution used very late in the war when the Reich was already crumbling
On that 109-D with the handcrank. Hell I would've made up an electric auxiliary starter that fit the handcrank Armature. Set it up so it's got to sets of handgrips and pull the trigger.
I am not pilot....nor ground crew..Saw and air show in hometown in 74' fantastic then..many old warbirds!! amazing to see the machines..feel their sound...our airport trained norwegians in war.Emsdale Airport in thirties..forties...Watching this old officer warriors and wives have chance to sit in machines of their youth giving time to country is amazing!! America loves technology!! war long over.....survivors sharing good times and memories...healing!! the effecient german engineering and manufacturing of their craft is amazing! Static displays are wonderful but there is nothing like a Living experience to those youth and elders whom remember these today! thank you for this video!
soaringtractor germans could've mass produced their Me262 which would be the best fighters at the time and they'd still lose. They were overnumbered by several factors. You are right that Allies had better pilots, they had much longer training before getting into battle as opposed to Germans who were desperate and let Trainees fly. IMO the result of WW2 could've been predicted in 1941. It's the year which doomed Hitler and his insane plan. Failure to stop British soldiers in Dunkirk plus failed invasion of USSR. Either one, if Germans had won, would've changed the history entirely. IMO the world was walking on the edge of catastrophy in 1941, both were caused by Hitler's and his allies' incopetence.
amy pilots flew 5 missions over germany (most of the allied pilots never saw a german airplane) and then they returned home to amerika, in germany you had to fly to death or glory, mission for misson! and now say one more time by better pilots... germany hat the quality and amys the quantity... quantity wins! you got the ressources, got the massive numbers, the allies... (without the soviets they were never been able to invade europa) and thats why america wins the war and not because of better pilots or equipment
@@mathiasrryba Germany had thousands of Aces. The best U.S. Fighter get just 40 victorys. That is nothing if you compare it with german fighter pilots.
A travesty that this beauty will never take to the air again, I would love to hear a jumo 213 at full power in the air! Same goes for the last survivng me 410 in UK with its DB 603s
+Robinson K There are two or three D-9 projects around with the goal of flying one day, but don't expect anything soon. It's doubtful that a 410 will ever fly again unless a wreck is found in private hands. (There is a Bf-110 wreck with potential.) The Dora can use either the Jumo 213 or the DB 603 with a few mods so I'm curious if anyone is considering that option, especially with the FlugWerk A-8 replicas.
FiveCentsPlease its a shame, since I really like the me 410, its a beautiful heavy fighter. I have heard that there are some Doras under restoration but will these use the original jumo or Db 603 engines or just these lame allison v 12s?
It's the early variants of the Bf-109, I could tell by the nose. The fw-190 might be the second or third variants looking at the MG on the wing, early fw only have four 7,92 and two 20 mm. The fw I see has supposed to be four 20 mm, so it might be a second or third variant
+Timo Tius The Bf-109 was actually a Spanish Buchon that the owner had rebuilt to look like a Bf-109E. And the Fw-190 is a vary rare, late-war D-13 and is the only D-13 example left.
Of the series of german airplanes this one takes the top of the performance class,and it was a nasty fighter airplane to be dealt with. There are not very many of these flying examples left anywhere in the world now.
Wonderful. The question is, was this type of camouflage directly from the factory or is there some probability that it could have been applied in the field?
+Pascal Chauvet Hard to get a definitive answer on the camouflage. It is a very late war series aircraft and it is possible that there was a new RLM directive to standardize the camo. This is suggested by a still from a color 8mm film of a railroad car of D-13 engines painted in the same mottled pattern directly from the factory. Or it could have been improvised in the field to match the factory engine cowling. Author Jerry Crandall is the highest expert on this specific aircraft and has written several books on the D series.
This fantastic jumo (junkers motor) has more thank 2000 horse Power. The air plane was build in Cottbus /brandenburg, There i am living. The Name of the plane was also long nose.
I have done some research into engines, etc. the reason it didn't start , was that the procedure for prop aircraft starting was to manually turn over the engine,(ignition OFF) with the prop, 15 blades (3 turns) to oil and clear the cylinders, then start with the inertia or other starter, some engines even needed a second engine, to warm up the oil, and run the lube pumps before you could even turn it over ( oil was that viscus, and needed to lube the engine so it wouldn't seize!). look under " Zenos WARBIRDS" channel, shows how B-17's, etc. worked, were flown, etc.
How does this system work? They are cranking the inertial starter, but I hear that there is also an electric starter that the pilot tried to engage multiple times on the third try.
