FX Hybrid Slugs v Hades v Diabolo 

Excellent video, as always. And now for the rest of the story... One thing that people seem to forget regarding pellets vs slugs is shedding velocity and power is a function of drag stabilization. Properly applied, pellets are better in any instance where background is a concern, such as pesting near/on/in buildings. Bullets on the other hand do not have drag like pellets, and will travel significantly further retaining higher velocity and energy. For example, the lowly .22lr (40 gr, 107 ft-lbs) can hit a target at 500 m still travelling at over 600 fps. An 18gr .22 pellet on the other hand has a significantly worse ballistic coefficient and can only maintain 600 fps at 90 m. I want people understand this will change the flight characteristics of airgun projectiles, and will potentially cause unintended consequences. Also, sub 12 ft-lb airguns will probably need some barrel redesign to shoot slugs properly, unless manufacturers go the route of making the projectiles smaller diameter than the bore and adding a "rifling band" near the center of gravity to limit rifling contact with the projectile. Otherwise, the barrels will need shallower rifling to reduce barrel friction, and require a faster rifling twist rate to stabilize slugs at lower velocities. The potential problem is the twist rate will be too fast for pellets. Finally, slugs are hard to load because, unlike cartridge firearms, airguns actually seat the projectile in the rifling prior to the shot. Airguns are more like a black powder muzzle loading rifles in the sense the projectile must be engraved with the rifling when seating it. Pellets are only engraved on very narrow portions of the head and skirt. Slugs are engraved over a substantial portion of the projectile's body. If you made it all the way to the end, thank you for you time.

Not everyone can remember numbers like you can. A list comparing them would really help. Love your vids!

Content 10/10 Usefulness 10/10 Delivery 10/10 and *Camera Work/Edits 10/10 Congratulations Nuff said

A tutorial on removing a stuck pellet would be useful to a lot of us, it's not happened yet, but some do's and don'ts would save a lot of frustration if it ever does.

Another brilliant video! i can honestly say - everyone of your videos are packed with useful information and entertaining to watch. Keep up the good work Andy lad 👍

Good, well thought out article. Very interesting . This has dispelled much about the slugs as well as scientifically proving how and what they should be used in.

Best comparison review ever on this topic. You cover the very things that matter to us in such a classy and entertaining manner... Thank you!

There's good news for .177 sub 12ft air gun fans. A company named 'Precision Ballistics' have introduced a hollow point 10.6 gr slug to suit .177. they've named it the 'Mako' Let's have a review Andy. 👍 correction 10.5gr (£12 x 100)

Andy, another great video brother. I always enjoy your content and the way you present the information. This one was of particular interest as I have only just started using the JSB Hades after months of the Diablo Jumbo heavy"s. I have been watching to progress of the FX hybrid slugs and was keen to try them out, but as I have seen from this it might not be the most cost effective method for pest control. As last night at one of my permissions I accounted for 55 Pigeon and 155 rats, if I was using the hybrids and not the Hades I would be broke by now. That being said I can see the usefulness of the hybrids if you were shooting at far larger distances that what I require at most of my permissions. I think they will find a way into my arsenal once available here in Australia but until then the Hades are my go to hunting pellet. Stay safe and keep the video coming.

Thanks Andy, interesting review!

Nice testing job. Thanks

I always love how so you are when you examine rifles or pellets I find it amazing not too many people put that time and effort for not to gain but we sure do game off of your knowledge and research thank you very much

Hi Andy, great videos. Really professional and you can see such a big difference regarding quality since you started (I binged watched most of them). Inspired me to get my first air pistol: Beretta M84FS. Keep up the good job!

Thanks for the review. Its the first review I've seen that mentions slugs in a 12ft.lb rifle. At least now I know not to bother!

I have a Daystate Huntsman Regal .22 cal. I use the smaller diameter FX slugs and they work great... Same with the H&N's, and NSA's "Nielsen Specialty Ammo". Again the Daystate prefers the .2165-.217 diameter. 17.5 grains to 21 grains. I like the accuracy and the retained energy down range. The Hades are nasty, great expansion. I did not have high expectations for the slugs, because the Huntsman is not considered a "powerful" gun. But I am very happy it really likes all of the above mentioned slugs. And those Hades...Even my Air Arms Tx-200 likes the NSA and H&N slugs.

Very good review. Straight and to the point as usual .Thanks Andy

I've bought some Hades in .22 and .177 for testing, I can't wait for my RFD/range to open so I can get some shooting done. Great review by the way.

Fantastic testing and explanations!!

Splendid,as usual!

Hopefully when the new wears out on the slugs and other manufacturers start production the price will come down. Thanks for video and the great information.

Hi Andy ,some very useful data and information in this video which has convinced me to not waist money on trying the slugs and stick with my usual JSB pellets.Thanks and stay safe & well👍

Great review thanks. Stopped alot of sub 12ft barrels being jammed no doubt.

Using H&N grizzlies at 50 yards I’m impressed with its accuracy and maintained energy. I love pellets. But depending what I’m hunting, I’ll stick to slugs.

Greetings from Oregon,,, Thanks for another great video. I am in the process of doing these same tests in my new Hatsan Bullboss in .25 with the addition of the H&N Grizzly slug to see if a more budget slug might be just as good.

Excellent as always Andy! Lots to read about slugs et. al.currently, but seeing actual results in a practical and realistic test, speaks volumes. Realistically, slugs have to be for FAC only. I use Bisley Magnums in .177 through my Huntsman Regal and they work perfectly. However, putting .22 Bisley Mags through my Huntsman Classic was a disaster!! (Shotgun patterns at 25 yards and 8.3 Ft/lbs ME.) My usual .22 (Daystate) Rangemaster Sovereigns, gives 8-10 mm groups at 35 yds, and ME of 11.4 ft/lbs. Horses for courses!! I'm sure your review will save an awful lot of curious shooters a good few shekels - And a lot of time! Great stuff matey.

Another great informative video ,saving me buying the slugs to try in my 12fp Fx😁

WoW!! now I just can't wait for the 177's these slugs will redefine what an Airgun realy is.

Gotta love hollwpoint expanding slugs. New fx hybrid 25s do not expand like the 22s. What a super detailed video. Very informative. Cheers from sunny Florida

Very unsurprising that the slugs performed best out of the FAC rifle to me, they’re ballistically more efficient in every way compared to the hades. The test showed that with accuracy and in the ballistic gel. Great video, very informative

I’ve took the Hybird slugs sub 12 further fx impact mk 2 smooth twist 👀 opener great video

Yet another analytical triumph! Great viewing.

Man your “go to rifle” is the same as mine, you just answered so many questions for me hahah thx love the videos.

well done andy.Really good down to earth review. Keep them coming.

Hang on a minute ! I thought this was a gardening programme ! Slugs and pellets !

Cheers Andy. Great review! Hope the AAR family are safe and well. I notice that you've not reviewed a Hatsan AT44. It's an older air rifle but one of my faves!

Very Useful Andy just what I have been waiting for, Seriously considering the Huntsman Regal as a variation on my FAC all the best

Thank you for su h a well informed and professional presentation. I'm so pleased!

Just what I needed to see, for my FAC. Happy Days, a clear & straight forward review, as always. 😎 Top Draw Andy 👍

very comprehensive and informative indeed

Good review Andy. Looks a great slug for the FAC boys. Cheers & keep safe.

Great video! I wonder if it's worth getting the slugs for target practice too, as they clearly are more accurate in FAC than diablo pellets.

Nicely done again Andy 👍

Great review as usual. I now know not to waste my money trying these. Its Diablos for me for target and plinking. I have started using Hades for hunting..

Very nice review, thanks!!!

Excellent test Andy. I have a Fac Regal pusing 29 ft , so might purchase some of these hybrids slugs. I use Hades for my Fx Mk11 and Hw110. Cracking pallets

Still in awe that this 17 inch barrel pushed these 22 grain slugs at such fps I have high hopes for my Crown coming in this week. Hoping to get them above 900 fps average but with equal or maybe even better accuracy.

Cracking review and a pleasure as always to watch

Thanks Andy , yet another good, informative review . I would like some 18.4 grain 'Hades', but too much to ask I suppose.

Great video Andy , thank you ( Ivan )

Woukd live to see a slug out battle if possible, jsb, h&n, NSA and fx thanks again for another fantastic video 👍👍

I was devasted when the first shot got stuck up the barrel (fx verminator). Switched rifle (game phox) and they worked but sadly no expansion on 12ftlb. 95 of them left if any buyers out there lol. Great show Andy

Great video Andy, I have a can of .25 hades coming for my hatsan bullboss. You got me interested In the slugs.Love the sense of humor !Big thanks from the U.S.

Another great information video. I wonder what would be the effects of long term use on standard barrels as i believe that they recommended for barrels liners. Perhaps another video. Keep up the great videos. JC

I love your videos! I bought a Hawke scope for my break barrel after watching one of your videos and i love it and put one on my 223 also

An excellent and informative video cheers Andy

Again a very informative and well done review. answered a lot of my questions. though i have not seen a review on fx hybrids or the H&N slugs in a old FX smoothtwist barrel, like the one on my FX Royale (pre smoth twist x/STX) would love to see one of those and maybe theese 4 in a good springer too . thanks for exellent work and cooking :D

Excellent review!Very professional and to the point as usual!Yeah those slugs need to be pushed fast for them to shine!The co efficiency of the slugs is realy good,and i think out of a more powerful gun it will have a more straight trajectory compared to a pellet.Love the hades pellets!One of the best pellets out there!!

I use the fx slugs in my hw100 fac 35ftlb absolutely loves them,and for plinking 18grain AA heavy,neilson have brought out a 17grain slug which might work sub 12 👍

Interesting review. I tried these slugs in my FAC Huntsman Regal rated at 30 ft lb. Very tight fit in the breach. First five shots averaged 22.358 ft lb @ 676 fps with a max deviation of 30 fps. I then sprayed a bit of WD40 on some kitchen paper and rolled each slug on it before loading. Next five averaged 23.962 ft lb @ 699.2 fps max deviation 15 fps. By contrast I fired 5 AA 18gr pellets, these averaged 28.434 ft lb @ 843 fps max deviation 4 fps. Accuracy of the slugs was pretty good but it would seem that barrel friction is robbing them of some power. I'm going to experiment with some custom sizing dies that will reduce the diameter of the slug whilst leaving a slightly larger skirt. These things could be the future.

As always good job.

These are just too heavy for Sub12 but the high BC makes them fantastic at longer ranges compared to a diabolo pellet. Nice review love the huntsman 👍

Well Done Andy, Yet again a great BS free video that helps everyone involved.

Once again good honest review

That' s how should look a perfect review. Thumbs up!

Love this channel thanks for sharing great info

Great review!

Great video! I wish they made that hades in .30 caliber. The hybrid too!

Fascinating results. Great video, really enjoyed this. I'll stick to my Air Arms diabolos though.

Very good review Andy, it’s great to get a genuinely helpful comparison rather than the other channels giving promos which really do not help give clarity!

That was really interesting... Great review!

Superb vid with excellent info in a very entertaining format

The head on the hades looks like it's going to create a lot of drag when passing threw the air so I'm not surprised with the loss of energy down range

Very interesting it's a shame it's more for fac air rifles. When everything has calmed down I may have to apply for one. Keep up the great work Mr and Mrs AAR

Another excellent review.

Very informative 👏 👌 👍

Great review as always would love to see you do a test on all the slugs including the h&n slugs and jsb knockouts please

Great video Andy. Nice Huntsman rifle. I have shot the FX Hybrid Slugs out of my Air Arms S510XS .22 caliber, and even though they shoot slower than pellets out of my 32 foot pound S510XS, they deformed just yours did in the video. I have shot them out to 50 yards and held a 1.25" group. Not bad at all. I have also shot the H&N Slugs and they shot just as well, and with a little more velocity. Keep up the great content.

Good review Andy. I wonder if they could thin the walls of the pellet down, or use a lead free material, to bring the weight down to 15gr (ish) to potentially fire from a sub 12 ft lb rifle?

Great review Andy, just what I was looking for. Like you I shoot FAC but in BSA R10. My standard has been the hades which are accurate enough for pest control and have huge stopping power. I was incredibly surprised (like you) that the FX slugs were vastly more accurate, with shot on shot at 38m zero. By contrast the H&N slugs were awful and very difficult to chamber. So I shall keep the FX for special low shot pest control eg long distance rabbits, and will dump the H&Nslugs but still use the Hades for squirrels. Best review of these I've seen.

I would love to see some more slug reviews. Cheers from America!

Very interesting as I have a Daystate Air Ranger in 40ftlb so may give them a go

Great test, love the honest info.

Excellent review Andy and thanks for saving me some money, I’ll stick to my favoured Diabolos.

Nsa slugs are real nice too.

Great review

Cheers Mate.

Very interesting...

The old Lem Spitzer moulds which gave the same shape and near weight in .22 as the FX Slugs fire very well in sub 12 ft guns.

Thank you!. Great review. The advertised Hybrids BC (G1) is 0.80. Was it close to your experience?. Thank you.

Fantastic commentary clear and well paced very informative fantastic channel.

Great video. If you do a slug review try the H&N HP slugs. Tried both sizes in my BSA Scorpion in sub 12 flb both shot well and were grouping well.

Really useful review thank you . I’ll stick to the tried and tested Hades !

Hi Andy, great comparison video. The ballistic gel at 40 meters was very revealing. I’m guessing that the reason the Hades are the more accurate pellet in your Huntsman is because of their low BC. It appears that your rifle is running a bit too “hot” for diabolo pellets - well over 900fps you are into the trans sonic region and that is causing some instability. Because the Hades bleeds off speed so quickly, it is likely spending the least time in the trans sonic region - hence it is more accurate. Is there a way to lower hammer spring tension on your Huntsman- probably just dropping the FPS to 880-890 with the JSB 15.89 will tighten up your groups. Of course, this lowering of the FPS would likely negatively impact the rifles performance with the FX Hybrid slugs. To have a rifle that does both pellets and slugs well would be easier to achieve with a rifle that has some degree of external adjustability.

Hello Andy, thanks for your reviews with pcp rifles. But, in the Netherlands there are no restrictions fore airguns power. There are a lot of breakbarrel guns never named! ( Norica, Ekol, Hammeri ,Baikal, Artemis and the Chinees break barrel rifles) but , a lot of fun with your video’s thanks from the Netherlands

I haven't finished watching the whole video yet but thank you for testing it on non fx and non FAC airguns. I've been curious about them.

I like the h&m slugs as much as people say there no good for sub 12 but they are the most accurate iv tried

Fantastic, in the comments of a previous video I asked for a review on the slugs. as usual I prefer your tests which I consider impartial. how about comparing more types of slugs for us? such as a nice comparison between FX, JSB know out, and H&N. Thanks for your time.

There are specialist sub 12 foot pound slugs. Obviously a lot lighter around 10 grains. I have just bought some to try in my wolverine. I think it will be interesting to see the results, especially at distance.

Nice review as ever, might have to give those Hades a try.

Very informative as per usual Andy keep up the good work