I've had an HW100 T .177 for over 10 years, I used it a lot in Field Target competitions and later in Benchrest competitions, it only brought me joy and some medals. Watching its comparison with the FX x HW100 and reading the comments from internet users, without a doubt the HW100 is ahead of the FX, the germans don't mess around when it comes to service.
I'll choose the HW100 any day. I had one in .22 FAC. One hole groups at 25yds. I now have an Mll and an M3. Neither measures up to the HW100. Owning an FX is like buying a motorcycle; just a big money pit! Always a new model. Always an accessory to buy. If you like to fiddle and chase leaks buy an FX.
very interesting comparison. for me as a work horse the hw100 straight out the box . fx is more like a sports car needs more attention but is very tuneable with many bits and bobs you can fanny around with and add . don’t get me wrong tge 100 can be done but for add on bits and kits think the fx is more catered for but needs more let’s say attention to keep it running at top spec . both awesome guns 👌
I'm not a fan of military looking air guns , to me they're very pretentious, trying to be something they're not. I've been a hw fan for many decades now 😊
Brilliant video. Being a budget shooter if I had the cash I would go for the HW100. Having seen hundreds of shooting videos the HW100 comes over as being a reliable classic air rifle.
I own both. An Impact M3 in .22 and an HW 100 in .20 cal. Both are FAC. So I need to get that out of the way at the outset. Given that you guys are limited to 12fpe, this discussion is simply an FYI chat. In no way do I intend pitting the one brand against the other. Perdonally I like and respect both. I've owned my HW 100 for nearly 4 years. During which time it developed a very minor leak. I've had my FX for 3 years and not a day's trouble. I suspect, its because I don't fiddle and adjust and tweak. At the outset I set it up for long range work. It shoots 30grain .218 H&N slugs @985fps. ( 65fpe) To this day, without touching either the gun or scope (Hawke Frontier FFP) it will print sub MOA groups at 100m all day long, with a PB of 15mm. My HW 100 is a superb gun for targets under 75m. (8 to 10mm groups all day long at 50m) I run 15.89 JSB @785 fps. ( 23fpe) NB These pellets have one of the highest, if not the highest BC's ( 0.047) Suffice it to say, I suspect FX's myriad adjustability features may be its Achilles heel. It may not be designed / suited to lower power. ( I'm not an engineer) So, my humble advice is, once your impact is set up, stop fiddling and twisting and adjusting, and it should serve you well. Having said all this, if I was limited to 12fpe, I'd choose an HW100 in .20 cal....Yes .20 cal. Shooting JSB 13.73 or H&N 11grainers.
I had my FX impact MK2 177 it's 4 years and 3 months old it's never leaked,i never had the need to clean the barrel it likes most pellets AA diabolo , bisley long range gold,JSB five pence at forty metres, it's had thousands of pellets through the barrel.The magazine is a rattle but I use my for hunting pigeon, greay squirrels are taken out,I have used the 100 KT and liked shooting it the mags are one of the best and you can't double load,it does make more noise than my FX, so at the moment I am happy with what I got.I think I got a good one
I have a HW100T in .22 sub 12 and it's simply never let me down and is as accurate and powerful as the day I bought it new about 5 oyears ago, however a couple of mates I go shooting with both bought FX rifles within the last 12 months and one has already returned his after multiple air leaks and bought a HW100KT and my other mate brought his old Rapid 7 out last night admitting he preferred it to his £1400 FX. I'm sure they're great guns but sadly I've heard many similar stories.
Thanks very much for doing this, it was very helpful. I had a HW95K but stupidly, got rid of it for a FX Pantera .177. The Pantera has been nothing but trouble - the magazine fit is not precise which leads to imprecise pellet loading which can impact the loading & lever mechanism. Despite the enormous price the whole action seems to be made out of cheese. Your video has made my mind up & I'm going back to Weirauch and buying a HW100. If only I'd done my research and seen your video first I could've saved a lot of money and stress. Thanks.
I've got both and would happily sell the FX, never the HW. Shot count is better on the FX for sure, but for me the HW is very slightly more accurate, doesn't require any fettling and fiddling with, runs for years, will be supported for ever and has a far superior trigger and magazine. The FX mags are big, but a faff, rattly and foul at least the first round, if not 2. Also comfort: subjective I know, but for me the FX is awkward in the shoulder. Pistol grip is nice and practical though. And the price? The FX is twice the HW! Buying again, I'd go Crown over Impact.
Hi thanks for the video. I own both the rifles. HW100 in .177 and my Mk11 Black is in .22FAC. I also have a Mk1 Silver with interchangeable barrels. All the rifles are fantastic. My 10 yr old HW100 had a Ratworks bottle upgrade as it began to leak a little too frequently. All good now. My MK1 began to lose power until I ran ten shots through it but a quick turnaround on seals etc and £130 and now as good as new. The MK11 FAC hasn’t missed a beat. Amazing shot counts on both FX models. If I could only keep one which would it be?…………. I would keep the FXMK11. Let’s face it all air rifles need a bit of servicing to keep them giving you many hours of enjoyment. Happy days Steve.
Sorry to say but in general FX are overpriced garbages especially FX Impact is absolutely crap. While HW100 is considered one of if not the best PCP in the world, it is piece of art, best magazine system, best trigger and great barrel, very efficient silencer and reliable regulator, and of course it is German engineering, the only downside is that it is a bit heavy and less air capacity.
2 sure how an impact that can push slugs as fast and accurate be garbage. No HW100 take pigeons at 200 yards. Its the king off small cal airguns. Your chatting out your ass
Like the look of them both but although I don't own either of them ide give my money to hw100 just for the reliability Great comparison video Well done 👍
For me the hw 100 all day I love the look the reliability I think it’s very quiet the trigger is superb.Don’t like the look of the fx I think the only thing I like about it is the magazine capacity but then I prefer the magazine on the hw 100 simplicity it’s self what can go wrong I think the only thing the fx has over the hw is shot count but unless you’re on the rats there’s no problem.#teamhw100👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Ive had both , the hw100 I had was great, very accurate and consistent .. the FX impact M2 I had was very problematic , had nothing but issues from when I bought it .. I really wanted to like the the impact and seemed like a great rifle on paper and reviews , but sadly wasn't very good , magazine is the worst ive seen too ... The hw100 , which I shouldn't have got rid of was very good , not the best looking gun, but much better engineered ...
I've got HW100 and its fanatastic. Would be my choice for a keeper. I've been put off the FX rifles as always seem to be the ones on the forums re reliability etc. I like the look of the new Dynamic breakdown but went ofr an AGT Uragan 2 Compact in additoin to my HW100. Great video.
Good advice and comparison! I prefer a traditional rifle for plinking and target practice, but I have a couple bullpups (FX Wildcat Compact & Taipan Veteran Short) that I use for hunting. I liked how you showed the shooting of the two targets at the same time! 👍
I have a HW100 kt in .177 and a mk2 Impact in .177 I got the Hw100 second hand mainly for HFT which is a very good rifle. I bought the Impact second hand from a friend at a good price. I find they are very close on accuracy but on the range I use the Impact for the shot count mine is the larger cylinder and will near enough do a tin of pellets. So far no problems with either. I also have a FX maverick compact in.22. I did have a power loss problem with that but now it's sorted it is my go to gun, I can hit everything with that than I can with the HW100 or Impact up to 50 yards.
Not had a HW100 but have a FX Impact MK2 for 2 yrs and find it very consistent, I like the shot count ( 450+ ) as mainly shoot targets at the range. a;; my guns have big shot count as suits my shooting and have tried cylinder guns but then have to take a bottle with me, I have a compressor at home so just fill the guns and take them out no worries. Have thought of selling the Impact a few times but then take it out for one last shoot and land up keeping it lol ( guns owned 'Red Wolf' 'Alpha Wolf' 'Uragan2' 'FX Impact MK2' 'TX200MK1 in Warren Edwards stock' 'HW97 SFS Chieftain (a 97 with a 77 barrel)' 'Reximex Pretensis that I fitted with a regulator' all in .177) and always thinking what to get next :)
Always the HW100. More reliable, worth te money/FX is overpriced and is ripping you of with extra's and new modells whole the time while Weihrauch keeps the same modell for years. HW looks better and has a descent stock for freehand schooting. FX is for me an absolute no go.
@@TsRide83..I've owned 2 FX's.....25/30 cal...spent more time replacing seals and regulators than shooting them 🙄...on the other hand when they're on form they're good....AGT vulcan/ultimate sporter and Airmaks rifles for me now😉
@@TsRide83 I own a S410 Walnut, in my opinion one of the best looking PCP on the market and i shoot pellet on pellet on 25 meters with it. Mine is two years now and i have had no leaks but that's not my big issue. FX, Daystate and many more brands are constantly upgrading their products and come with new modells, anniversary modells and gadgets for overpriced prices to follow the hype to ripp you off. Weihrauch does not have to upprade because they produce a perfect rifle that will be on the market for many years to come. Good is good. All pcp's hit the target every time so that is no reson to owe a FX and leaks will almost never occure within one year. I,m not saying a FX is a bad PCP but in my opinion not worth the money.
Had 2 HW100s. These do not come spot on from factory. You get good and bad. Both had issues. One was sent back the other I sorted because the time it takes when sent back to HC. Other than that, can be very accurate but low shot count and extremely boring rifle
@@memememe2674 All brands can have an issuse direct from factory, even FX has issues. That's the problem with PCP's with all moving parts and adjustments. That's why i prefer more reliable quality springer air rifles. All PCP's are boring and there is no challenge to shoot them. A ten year old can shoot small groups with a PCP and adult guys have to show that they can here on YT 😆 Shooting skills you learn with a springer. As i said, i own a S410 and if i pick it up for som target shooting or plinking i do already know the results. Day in day out. 10 rimfire shells on 30 yards without missing one and than i can even decide if i hit them high, in the middle or low, that's boring, but for hunting and pest control it's a superb rifle and than are 60 accurate shots out of one fill more than enough.
I do prefer the look of a traditional rifle I just like the wood and the slender lines, I don’t even like bottles,but I was surprised at the actual low usable shots you get from the Weihrauch, I can see that being a problem when you go hunting. The other thing I noticed was the fishing coaster on the Zulus, it will be nice when someone brings out an actual dedicated throw lever.
IMO regardless of brand the more complicated, the more O-rings the more issues down the road. Something I learned in the Air Force was KISS…keep it simple stupid and I think that applies with just about anything man made. I have PCPs made by Snow Peak that cost under 300$ that have given me no issues in years while other PCPs I own costing thousands more have been a handful and a couple while under warranty have spent more time in the shop for repairs than in my hands. One platform is hammerless and I will say is super reliable and very easy to maintain and it is the LCS SK-19. Looked intimidating at first and I wouldn’t touch it…then the warranty ran out and of course it’s started to leak very slowly. Being somewhat of a perfectionist I couldn’t have that and within a couple hours had it repaired with a couple of-rings in the rear block and it has been rock solid ever since. That all said every airgun regales will leak or fail in time. Even my 30 yr old Benjamin Sheridan 392 has been rebuilt 2Xs and it’s about a simple as it gets. They are all great rifles till the mess up.🤷♂️💯
If i am honest i really don't know , but I have both the HW100kKT and the HW100 T which was made in 2004 has had work done as i couldn't part with it . I dont have an impact so i suppose that kind of answers the question.
They have both got there own qualities, I think if you had bought the FX from new with no tampering faults,I would say the FX comes first, but I will never fault the HW100 model for accuracy and quality of manufacture 👍🤠
After owning a few fx rifles dreamline wildcat mk3 and a crown mk2 they have all failed and would not hold zero had 4 hw100 had a leak with one i got secondhand and was a few years old but now ive gone back to air arms as there starting to use regulators Ill never buy another fx but thats my opinion
Hi Kev. As you know I've got the HW100KT with laminate stock. Its a thing of beauty. Had a couple of issues with it leaking and now its dropped power so its off back to the shop again for repair. However saying all that, i love the rifle, it performs well 99% of the time. The FX looks like it means business but the tactical look isnt for me these days. 👍🏼
@@airhunteruk mine was leaking from the fill port seal but it was easily sorted. Just a minor inconvenience. Hoping I get it back quickly and can get a few videos up asap.
Two. Very different guns and an interest comparison. I am drawn towards the traditional HW100 as I have a HW110 and have found it reliable and accurate. Perhaps a fairer comparison would be the Fx up against something like a Daystate. As they are similar money. Great Shooting by the way at 50 yards. Kill every time out of both guns. 👍
I had a daystate renegade before my impact mk2. Lovely rifle. Thoroughly enjoyed my time with it. Heavy rifle to lump around without a sling like I did but its trigger was sublime. Can’t remember shot count from a full but nowhere near the impact. 10 shot mag compared to 28 in .22. Not an easy gun to work with or maintain. Yes the impacts are full of orings but it’s not too bad once you do it. Two lovely guns but I’d go with impact every day.
Honest review there, the later fx guns imo aren't as reliable as the early ones where as the hw100 has always been, dare I say it boringly reliable. For me the hw has no soul its a machine. That said my go to is a mk1 wildcat followed by my Hortitsia. Nice vid by the way.
Love to see you compare daystate huntsman revere with the hw 100 kt ...I'm looking at purchasing one or the other, The best air rifle I've ever owned , and I've had more than a few , was an old hw 80 k in .22, I'm now a .177 believer for pest control , flatter faster and penetrates better...huntsman revere looks so nice , hw 100 kt looks solid , any help would be appreciated.
The fx had the better grouping but id have the wooden stock all Day . But will stick with my s410 carbine old trusty had for 20 years lol Hope all is good 👍👍👍😜🏴🦕🦄😁🤞✌️
Great video again fella. I have HW110 .22 and good for closer vermin control. I love a classic looking rifle and the FX guns just look a little anorexic imo and prefer the HW110 tactical look. Weihrauch all the way so far….😊
I happy new year I think I would be inclined to buy the hw 100 it looks less complicated tho I was surprised at the shot count but I was wondering if you could buy a aftermarket cylinder for it ? Both guns shot good groups but there something about a hw100 but who knows if I shot the fx would I change my mind ?
@@airhunteruk I can't remember. I got it from Solware. I think it was around £135. It's longer than the barrel so only a Rowan Stripper can fit in the space. It's a nice set up with a CZ Aeron stock and Rowan trigger.
Had both, flogged the FX - was a tacticool moment, not a bad Rifle but minor issues all over! fun to shoot, angry to fix. HW100 just so much more fun tbh but much heavier
I have a hw110 and I hate to say It but the hw110/not a hw100/ is the worst pcp in my collection and fx's are way over priced. For that money I'd rather buy 2 cz 457 .22 lr Rimfire rifles.
You can’t compare peanuts with bananas… on the long term, 22lr will cost you much more and in some countries/areas, you can’t shoot firearms unlike airguns. If price wise an Fx doesn’t hurt, go for the Steyr (Hunting 5 or Pro X), smaller magazines and not more shot counts than the HW, but as precise as both Fx and HW, an amazing trigger too and the incomparable ease and fun of a flawless working semiautomatic !
HW100 even if it was 50% more to buy, had loads of FX, all nothing but reliability problems, some leaked from new, back up service in FX is hopeless with SGC
I know the gun I prefer as I own a HW 77, 97, & two 100 s, in Walnut having three quite a few years & one 100. about 3 to 4 yrs none FAC all 22, my favourite being the oldest of the 100s & the 77, the two 100s have Helix scopes the others Hawk Vantage. Cheers Tippo, UK, GB.
As for shot count, sure the Inpact has a lot more but you rarely need more than 50- 70 shots for a days shooting in Sub 12ftlb which the Hw100 offers unless shooting rats. The Impact when it's got a air leak, you pretty much need to replace every o- ring to play it safe. For value for money, reliability & build quality the Hw100 wins every time,. So if you look at it, you've spent £1k plus on a Impact just to get a higher shot count 🤔
HW100 if its been ratworked and a lighter cylinder fitted. Before it would do 4 x 14 shots. Now its 140. There is no real point in an Impact unless its FAC. I have and shoot both. In FAC, the switch barrel Impact is a big plus over the HW100. The 100 is not a good rifle for FAC.
Hw100 all day long mine is so accurate it is unreal So I brought a hw110 an that is just as good as my hw100 I have had all sorts of rifles but the hw wins all day for me I got rid on my r12 as I wasn’t happy with that when it came back from BSA I had it less than 6 months
I have 2 HW 100s a bullpup which is amazing and a thumbhole long action which is brilliant but pellet fussy on pushing a pellet through the barrel on both the pellet fussy one is quite a bit slacker fit in the barrel, other than that the both are very accurate I'm a benchrest shooter and both are very close to being as good as my competition rifle averaging 100 plus 3 _ 5 X's per card. On the other hand I have an M3 impact that is stunning over the cronograph and probably the least accurate rifle I have ever had, constant POI shift and having tried everything I could including the FX carbon stiffener I am resorting to having a match grade barrel machined to sort the problem out, the more people I talk too that have had the same problem with impacts is unreal but all at sub 12, everyone with the high power models thinks they are umbelievable I can only presume from this that they just run much better at FAC levels, unfortunately this has left a bad taste in my mouth and I would never consider another FX in sub 12, IMO a waste of money buy a Weihrauch over the FX everytime for half the price.
Bought a beautiful HW100t last year. Unfortunately it’s was seriously underpowered, sent it back. Came back the same. Sent it back again and had a refund. Now own an Impact M3 and it’s an unreal bit of kit.. would be lying if I said I’m not angry that the HW was a dog. Reason i won’t buy another is I’m hearing a lot lately about weihrauch’s quality going downhill, and lots of people having the same issue i had.
Hi there,it’s Phil Matthews (re fx dreamline fault) at last I’ve got it back and modified as a good will gesture (they’ve fitted a 310bar buddy bottle in place of the tube reservoir!) apparently the barrel tube had come loose and was losing umph to blow the pellet out,which makes perfect sense to me because it suddenly happened. So I’m a happy bunny now and I promised l would let you know the outcome so there you are. Thanks for the great videos,keep up the good work!👌
I was an air arms man for many years old a rat worked 510 177 and bought a hw100 177 in lam stock what a thing better then a rat worked tuned 510 that’s for sure 😊
Hia mate, Thank you for the trouble of your review and pitting these two rifles against each other. I've never owned an FX, though purchased the Limited Edition HW100 KT over Christmas. I havent shot it yet. What with Christmas, the poor weather, then discovering there was a leak! So it's in hospital feeling poorly😢. There were three hundred manufactured to mark Hull Cartridges' twentieth year anniversary of importing Weihrauch air rifles into this country. If there were three hundred made and one had an air leak, it just had to be mine. Yep, just had to be! I had a funny feeling when I was filling the cylinder with air. If there's no air inside, how do the seals stay in place? Then, low and behold, theres a leak! I've never been keen on the tactical look, but walnut stocks make my knees tremble. I just adore them and a big part of the rifle for me. I dont politely think German engineering can be beaten. So its Weihrauch for me, all day long. You said about loose pellets in the FX magazine. You wouldn't see a Weihrauch like that. The Weihrauch for me is just a fantastic rifle, pardon the pun, bullet proof. The Weihrauch is solid, built to last and engineering excellence. With great respect, personally, I think all it could ever be, is a one horse race. I know the Weihrauch shot count isn't great, though I saw a posting on Utube where someone went to HW Tuning, and now their shot count, on one 200 bar fill is 150 shots. Why can't Weihrauch do that? Would it put extra strain on certain parts that Weirhauch wouldnt do? Thank you.
Hi buddy thanks for watching it’s appreciated and thanks for taking the time to type this out I love reading peoples insights on there own experiences with there guns it’s invaluable info 👍
@airhunteruk Hello My friend, Thank you for your reply and nice to hear from you. Yes, mate, I just wrote from my heart and what I really thought. The leak is just one of those things, and things like this happen on such a large manufacturing scale.With Weihrauch's reputation, I don't expect any more than that. That said, if the Weirhaurch HW100KT is as good as my BSA R12 CLX PRO, I will be well happy. That is an absolutely fantastic air rifle, I love the bare bones of it. I last messaged you when you were a little fed up. You were having problems acquiring your Firearms Certificate. I hope you've been successful whatever you decided to do in the end. I'm not sure what I'll attempt to do yet, though at the moment, I'm happy at 12ftlb. The best of luck, mate, Ian.
Another cracking video (happy new year to you and your loved ones) I have a hw100T and next week i collect my new fx dreamline tactical (im hoping the fx is accurate as im hoping to use it for ratting! the hw is a fantastic rifle and i would never dream of parting with it!
Ordered my fax impact a month ago, now had it 3 days Day 1 taken back to shop to fix leak at the gauge Day 2 magazine broke as nut fell out the back taken back to shop to repair Day 3 first regulator creeps overnight from 135 bar to 170, have to fire a couple of shots to bring it back down. Unsure if this is a big issue. Still it’s capable of handling a variety of pellets, and is so adjustable Watched a lot of videos espousing how wonderful these guns were before I purchased. It now occurs to me those people were also the kind that likes to pull things apart and modify them, possibly they don’t care if it needs continual repairing.
Yes Here in Australia it’s just considered an air rifle. Given I’ve got a number of guns up to a 30-06 the FAC thing isn’t an issue here, however moderators are illegal, as the government thinks we will all turn into assassins and do terrible things if we have them …. It’s all a bit odd at times….
Great review mate appreaciate it buddy think i said on your last video i was looking at an impact but was warned off by a few people and issues the rfds seem to think theyre the dogs though but i have to say id stick with my HW100t new shape personally but i do fancy a carbine tactical rifle ...looking at the ghost as its also supposed to be a great rifle and verry easy to maintain with only 14 seals in the full unit thats atleast a year away though that but saturday norning i put 14 shots through a hole the size of the head of a carpet tac from 20m understandably your shooting twice that but id like to see a comparison and see what pellets your unsing the qys domed heavy for me are unbeleivably accurate
Sorry buddy exactly what comparison would you like to see , sorry if I’m being thick just heads tired at the moment worked 11 days straight up to last weekend just gone 👍
@airhunteruk pellet wise probly sounded thick meself mate and didn't really explain but was more based around the pellet comparison in these rifles some are pellet fussy my hw100 eats everything under a 5p piece from qys to bisley aa to accupel but I'm wondering if that hw grouping could be better from the pellet choice same with the fx I know they say slugs or fx pellets but think wen you find the rifkes preferred pellet that's were the test really hits off like.... So at that point wen you have the fx favorite pellet and the hw favorite pellet at 50m we can see the clear winner unless that's what you've done in that case I apologise and it was just me being silly
