A comparison between the Lightforce HTX hybrid HID/LED driving lights, and the Fyrlyt Nemesis 250w halogen driving lights. Read more and check out still images at: www.australianimages.com.au/n...
I do just under 6000 kms a week at night and for the life of me cant understand why people think they have to see 1500 mts down the road. Unless your doing 180 kmh give me a good spread and light for 400 to 500 mts is all you will ever need.
I paid $1400 for my pair of HTXs for my KW including anti- theft bolts. I’ve found they give 2 kms range with a good spread. The beauty of hybrid is that you can use LEDs only for country roads, then switch on the HID/LED combination for long, straight outback roads. Having combined HID/LED for country roads means they are too powerful and you tend not to see someone coming the other way, and you end up blinding them. I had this problem with my Lightforce Blitz 240s with 70W HID globes. Just using the LEDs only gives the perfect illumination for a country road. I’m pretty happy with the HTX, the construction is excellent, and I don’t think the reflectors will discolor like they did on the Blitz. I could have bought another set of 240 Blitz with a light bar, but the HTX makes it simpler. Incidentally, my 240 Blitz lasted around 10 years. I went through 3 sets of 70W HID globes, but eventually the external ballasts and igniters failed, which is why I thought I’d give the HTXs a go.
I agree you don't need the distance of these powerful HID's. Good thing they come with anti theft bolts. This was a big problem for the transport company I worked for. A few sets stolen.
Great video , I have the htx as got them at cost . We do a lot of driving in the Kimberley at night and I agree about the distance not as good . I find the led fantastic on bush tracks . Done about 8000km off road and feet still like new . I think your right with your conclusion with halogen and light bar and I believe fyrlyt have fixed the issue with cracks and would probably go with them next time .
Those are some awesome lights but im looking for some big led lights to go on my ARB bumper whats the most bang for my buck in your opinion also im in Tallahassee FL. USA
Thanks for the test Jamie, Im happy for you to give me the HTX's (for looooooong term testing) My theory is personal preference. Looking at your footage I liked the HTX better. I drive behind copies of ARB intensity lights and love them. I love the 4500 - 5000k colour temperature. Cheers Steve
I know this might sound like an odd request but I'd love to see you show a comparison of what the lights look like from 300m away, 600 and 1km away.. maybe even 2.5km away, As if you leaving your lights turned on and showing footage face on with the vehicle from said distances away, I'd love to see the colour output in the air, the range at which these lights drop off and particularly what oncoming traffic would see, not that you should have your lights on around oncoming traffic, but I love looking at other peoples lights on the highway when they're oncoming before they turn them off, It's interesting comparing the light output and dazzling effect of different lights.
I know what you mean. I’ve sent the htx (and genesis) back to FYRLYT now, so can’t do it for these lights. If I do some more tests in the future, I’ll add it to the shot list.
@@Malc664 Yes well - the mountings and globes are better. H2 springs to mind. Apparently we should have replaced the holder AND the globes at the same time, since the holders lost their spring tension due heat. No-one ever told me and friends that story at sale of the offending lights, or globes, for that matter. Good grief. H4 and H1 were better, but some manufacturers insisted on H2 for far too long. Looking at you Mr Hella and Mr Cibie. Never mind. Not forgetting the KC Daylighters and similar - a sealed beam clear lens format with a massive tungsten filament. Never got more than 5 Hours out of one. They lasted a little longer in the light aircraft they were built for:-)
If I have a pair of them at some stage, I might do a comparison. FYI, Lightforce claim the HTX throws 1.8kms. Most of the claims from manufacturers aren't real-world. They are a computer calculation based on the output from the source and reflector design. The claims are well beyond real-world performance.
@@austimages yeah that's why I wanna see how close to those claims the type x pros come. The original type x are awesome from what I've seen in reviews. The type x pros are also half the price of these 2 lights.
Hey Stedi. I've just returned the HTXs and pretty busy now for the next 6 months. But maybe later this year? Will message you then, or feel free to email me after August or so if I forget about it!
Judging by the film, HTX gives a much smoother light image without any direct spot in the middle, which feels more comfortable when driving longer distances. I think it's a little strange that you get such a cold light image. Feels like the xenon lamp would be closer to 6000k as 4200k is warmer white (a bit in the yellow direction) and 5000K is completely white without hints of yellow or blue. I sincerely hope you did not put any filter in the film that gives the halogen lamp an advantage. I live in Sweden where, just like in Australia, it is dark for a large part of the year and work as a driver at night. Uses lamps from IPF and Lazer which are at 5000k and these have no blue at all. Wonderful ramps that I can recommend you to try if you have not already done :)
Great video Jamie, and thanks for the disclaimer before you begun the test. Its good that you had some autonomy over testing out these two different driving lights, though I would argue that you still have some bias to Fyrlyt, on the ground that they have supported you with upgrading your old driving lights as well as providing you with the resources to complete more tests. Not that I think it has made the your comparison unfair, but it is still something to consider. While sadly no one is without any bias (I myself am slightly biased towards Lightforce for instance), it is still important to recognise that it is there and what effect it might have on your conclusion. With that bias, it could be argued that your preference to the halogen colour is more down to your previous use of halogen driving lights, while the LED/HID combo is something new and different, and we all have a natural prefence to our tried and true vs. unknowns. One thing I would like to ask is were the HTXs mounted central on the bullbar during the test, or on the wings in front of the headlights as shown in the conclusion? All the best, really enjoy your channel mate.
Absolutely agree re the natural bias. The HTX's were mounted as seen in the video. They obstructed the factory high-beams, so the high beams were disconnected for all the testing. The Fyrlyts and HTXs were both tested with the HTXs mounted as shown.
Nearly bought a set of 9000s until I dealt with fyrlyt. Even drove 40km to see a club member locally to test his lights out before the purchase. The lights are good, the fyrlyt team are arrogant pr*cks. They treat people like sh*t on their Facebook page and love deleting comments or block people with genuine questions that don't make their product look good. The owner of the fyrlyt 9000s that I went to see also said he's had a few bulbs go each year. His electrics were top notch so no issue there and bulbs mounted to an ARB bar. The video creator says he's not had that issue so take that as you want. The Fyrlyt draw a fair whack of juice, if you're trying to run your car, nemesis 9000 and dc/dc chargers etc you will be close to your alternator capacity. Need transformers and fat cable for the install. On trucks they don't need this though. 500w of nemesis plus 4 halogen headlight bulbs is 720w+ of draw(60+ amps on their own) add a 25A dcdc charger and you're near 90A. Add your vehicles electrics and you're past 120A. Turn your stereo up or add a light bar and bam you're past any decent alternators output.
I changed my globes for the HTX comparison, but the originals were still working and are now sitting in the glovebox as spares. Never blown a globe, even after central Australia and Cape York trips. There are plenty of causes of bulb failures. Off the top of my head, higher voltage is one (the LC runs at 13.2V. Some cars run at 14 or more, which will reduce life even after transformers). Also, touching halogen globes when replacing can cause early failure. Nowhere near the alternator output on a 200-series. 140A, and the Fyrlyts only draw 44. Running all lights (inc foglights), A/C, a 25A DC-DC and stereo: My ultragauge reported 83% alternator output. And let's be realistic, how often will you have all of those things running at full capacity for an extended period of time? You would be in trouble if you only had a 100A alternator though. As for the Fyrlyt crew... They certainly do have a unique marketing strategy! But can't argue with their product, and you'll find their after-sales service is extremely good.
I really do love the nemesis lights, especially because fyrlyt is such an underdog Aussie brand.. but I think I might end up going with the lightforce HDX's purely because they look better, I literally would have never thought I would have put visuals over practicality but I've just bought the new Suzuki Jimny, and I can't see the Nemesis lights looking very at home on my Jimny, I strongly think the light force lights stand out on vehicles and will help make my Jimny stand out as a brand new vehicles with modern technology. I haven't made a rock solid decision yet.. I guess it'll come down to how desperate I am to save $700 in a month or so when I fit the lights.
They gave you free lights mate ;-). It is like comparing apple to watermelon. HTX is way advanced. Better to compare it to another halogen light (a lightforce halogen?) then it becomes apple to apple.
Don't take my word for it, the proof is in the images/video. I don't think there's much point to comparing it to a LF halogen. They aren't using a 24v 250w globe, so they wouldn't be in the race.
Australian Images think about it this way mate. 24v and 250w vs 12v and 170w - that is completely different race. Different technology, different approach and different power consumption. Renewable energy vs nuclear power (they are not at the same race). Put 500w halogen light vs any led light - what’s the point?
@@1300meee I guess the point is that the Nemesis and HTX are comparable lights when it comes to performance. Yes, the Fyrlyts use more power, but practically speaking why is that relevant? If their performance is the same or better, they cost 50% less money, but they use more power to achieve that result. Why does that invalidate the comparison between them, if the purpose is to find which lights are better to do the job?
Australian Images why are people using led lights? Isn’t that all about less power? Otherwise, other manufacturers would have kept developing halogen lights. I forgot that htx is more controllable with power consumption and the amount of light needed - 2 lights in one. The entire thing is about power consumption (not in the same race mate). And also the performance of the htx is not comparable - led + hid vs a halogen bulb ????
@@1300meee Why does less power matter? The 200 has a 140 amp alternator. You could run 6 nemesis lights without breaking a sweat! LEDs have their uses. They are great for a good spread of light. They are also somewhat trendy. But they have downsides. Their CRI is much lower than halogen, so colour perception and contrast is not as good (that's a scientific fact, not an opinion). Yes, the performance is comparable. You only need to test them side by side to realise that. Or look at the pics or the video if that's not an option for you. I find the Nemesis is a much better light to drive behind for long periods because of it's high CRI and warm colour temperature. If someone gave me a pair of HTXs, I'd give them back and stick with the Nemesis, thanks!